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The Irish World War II shame - Irish soldiers faced hostility after arriving home

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Bernard Kelly's new book: Returning Home

This week we're going to give you a break from the mind-numbing economics and politics of the euro crisis and the referendum here on the Fiscal Compact Treaty.  It will be unavoidable  next week in the run up to the vote in Ireland on May 31, so make the most of your time off!

So this week we will ignore all that euro stuff.  There also happens to be a good reason for switching the focus this week because it gives us the chance to take a look at an important new book which was published in Dublin on Tuesday, May 22.  

The book, Returning Home, is by the young Galway historian Bernard Kelly, and it investigates the shameful way the estimated 12,000 Irish veterans who returned to Ireland after the end of the Second World War were treated.

Let's put it like this -- it's a long way from Saving Private Ryan.

You would think that after fighting Hitler's armies the returning ex-servicemen would have got a hero's welcome home.  But they didn't.

Instead they came back to a country that was scornful of, ignorant of and indifferent about what they had been through.  In many cases they faced open hostility.  Their service in the British forces was seen by many at home as  anti-national, almost traitorous.

The book tells the stories of many of these Irish servicemen and women who fought in the war, but I particularly liked the one about a guy called John Kelly who left rural Kilkenny to join the British Army and ended up fighting the Germans in North Africa.

In 1943, after the heat of the battle to liberate Tunis, the capital of Tunisia, he was sitting in a bar in the city center having a drink.  Also there celebrating the liberation of the city were some American conscript soldiers.

Hearing his Irish accent, the Americans said, “Say, you guys are neutral, you’re not in the war at all!” Kelly explained that he was a volunteer.   The reaction of the Americans was, “Are you goddamn mad or something?”

It was a fair question.  Kelly, and thousands of other Irishmen like him, had left the safety of neutral Ireland and risked death or injury to fight in the Second World War.  They played their part in  defeating Hitler.
But they got no thanks for it when they came home.  It's a disgraceful and shameful part of recent Irish history.  It shows how small minded and inward looking Ireland was at the time.

De Valera had kept Ireland neutral during the war while the British and the Americans fought the most brutal and evil regime the world had ever seen.

Whether that decision was morally justifiable given the murder and mayhem unleashed across Europe by Hitler is arguable.  One can take the view that as a weak, newly independent country we had other priorities.
But at the very least the sacrifice made by thousands of Irish people who volunteered to fight Hitler should have been recognized when they came back.  After fighting the Nazis the 12,000 Irish veterans deserved that much.

Instead they came back to a country where the attitude to them was so poisonous they quickly learned to keep their war service secret.

Even worse, of the 12,000 Irish veterans an estimated 5,000 had deserted from the Irish Army to join the British and fight Hitler and they faced potentially severe punishment when they returned home.  All of the veterans also had a practical reason for keeping their mouths shut -- they came back to a country that was severely depressed, and being an ex-serviceman did not help in the search for a job.

There was a lot of ignorance in Ireland about the war.  Unlike in Britain, where the entire country had been caught up in the war effort and as a result had great admiration for the returning soldiers, the Irish public had little understanding of the veteran's experiences.

All the Irish public had been through were the minor inconveniences of what de Valera called "the Emergency,"  which involved keeping the country on alert and putting up with some shortages and rationing.
Even the terminology says a lot about Ireland at the time.  The rest of the world had a world war.  In Ireland we had "the Emergency."

Despite the ignorance here, however, by 1945/’46 many Irish people were aware that details of Nazi atrocities were emerging.  You would think that this might have changed attitudes. But it didn't.

"Word of Nazi atrocities were filtering back to Ireland, partly through the media and partly through people like Dubliner Albert Sutton, who visited Belsen soon after it was liberated and saw harrowing scenes there," Kelly said at the launch of his book.

"But the whole experience of neutrality had opened an emotional breach between the Irish population and the U.K. Censorship, isolation and neutrality meant that while many people in Ireland were well aware of the war, they had no attachment to it. There was a genuine sense of pride and satisfaction that Ireland had avoided the war, despite pressure from London and Washington.

"When ex-servicemen returned their friends and family were delighted to see them, but they encountered indifference from the government and much of the population. There were no bands out to meet them because most people did not see the Second World War as Ireland's war; it wasn't something to be celebrated.

"From the government's point of view, they had not fought for Ireland, so they were not Dublin's responsibility. As for the bulk of the public, they simply didn't understand what the veterans had been through," Kelly said.

One writer quoted by Kelly recalls that in his home city of Cork they "were more concerned with the horrors of rationing than with anything that was happening in Europe.”  Which sums up Irish attitudes at the time.
The whole business is still a very sensitive subject, even today.  When Kelly was doing interviews for the book many of the surviving veterans and the families of deceased veterans asked him not to use their surnames or addresses.  For that reason the servicemen and women are referred to in the book on a first name only basis.

A man called George returned to Dublin from service with the Royal Navy, and he said it felt "as if you didn’t exist -- nobody wanted us."

Another man called William, who left Dublin to join the RAF, was dumbfounded by the ignorance of the war in Ireland.  He was told by his neighbors that stories about German concentration camps were simply "British propaganda."

Another man called Larry, who left Wicklow to join the Royal Navy, was absolutely "shattered" by people’s attitudes when he returned home. He says that his fellow countrymen were interested only in "drinking themselves into oblivion, not a single thought about what was going on beyond the horizon. And they didn’t care a damn either."

One can understand the anger of many Irish ex-servicemen who had been though a lot during the war, in ways that changed their lives forever. Back home, however, people did not want to know or just didn't care.
John Kelly, the guy in the bar in Tunis, is an example.   He was aboard the Polish ship Chobry when it was sunk off the Norwegian coast in April 1940, and barely escaped with his life. He fought his way through North Africa and stormed ashore at Anzio in Italy in 1944, where he was severely wounded and almost died.

He says he was rescued by a Kerryman, but then was further wounded by an RAF airstrike. He was evacuated and was invalided out of the army afterwards.

His brother fought in the Far East. John died in 2009 and there are pictures of him in the book.
But my favorite picture is the one on the cover of the book, which you see here.  The two young men are Michael and  Paddy Devlin, both from Longford Town.

Like many Irish from the south, they crossed the border to join the British army in Enniskillen in 1939 at the start of the war.  They were posted to different units and fought in France.

Their units were smashed by the German attack in May 1940. Both were evacuated from French beaches.  The men survived the ordeal but are now deceased.

Based on interviews with surviving veterans and drawing on a wide array of archival sources, Returning Home explores how the Irish ex-servicemen coped with the frosty welcome they got when they came back to Ireland, with the difficult task of re-integration, their economic difficulties and psychological problems.

The treatment of deserters from the Irish Army who joined the British to fight in the war is only now being addressed, nearly 67 years after they came home.   The minister for defense here made a statement in February indicating that official steps are being taken to issue a formal pardon to all such veterans, alive or dead.

It's been a long time coming.  It's disgraceful that it has taken so long.

But of course the delay did not stop people here getting all misty-eyed over movies like The Longest Day or Saving Private Ryan over the years.

Overall, Returning Home makes an important contribution to how we view Ireland's connection to the Second World War and Irish participation in it.

The book is published by Merrion, the new history imprint of the Irish Academic Press.  Kelly is currently working as a post-doctoral research fellow at the University of Edinburgh.




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@Ancavker: A group doesn't have to be that well organized to provide intelligence. Some of the information they provided was as simple as informing the Nazis of what buildings still remained intact after the first raids so that they could destroy them in the next wave of bombing, and the morale of the people. The confessions of an IRA veteran were revealed in a TV Documentary in the late nineties. He felt ashamed of what he had done. It's thought a few hundred IRA activists were involved in the intelligence gathering...
De Valera's myopia was understandable, given the circumstances...there is far less excuse today...Irishmen were far more effective in any allied uniform, than sitting in the Tom Swinford described position...but US-based posters should remember that American airmen who fought in the RAF had similar treatment...right up until Pearl Harbour
Ireland North - Is not the real question is: Does the whole of Ireland want to have independence from the UK or does it not?
Tom: Agreed it is an emotional subject, But you are assuming that all the Irish who joined the British Army did it to fight the evil of Hitler. Lets remember the Holocaust was not common knowledge at the time. One could also argue reasonably that it was just the big Europe and powers slaughtering each other again in another blood bath. As far as Hitler enslaving Ireland, doubtful he did not care one way or the other, but yes did consider them to be inferior to the English. He wanted Britain out of the war nothing more. Once defeated he planned to let them keep their empire, and would not have cared if they invaded the south. And again lets remember the other countries that stayed neutral, why do they get a pass?
citizen: I will attempt and verify, but I highly doubt the IRA provided intelligence to the Nazi's. The IRA at the time could not find their way out of a paper bag.
Volunteers from Ireland who helped the allies fight the Nazis were barred from attaining any government jobs or state welfare in Ireland upon their return, yet Sinn Fein & IRA internees who has aligned themselves with the Nazis suffered no such bans. The IRA had provided Nazis with intelligence for bombing raids on Belfast. Raids which killed over 1000 Irishmen, Protestant & Catholic and destroyed half of the buildings in the city.
This is a topic we've covered before in these pages - with strong opinions on both sides. My position is clear and will never change. The Irishmen who fought in the British military in WW ll are heroes of the first order. They were not content to sit on their arses in shamefully neutral Ireland while the greatest evil the world has ever known was rampaging through Europe. These brave men fought that evil - and many died. If England had been defeated Ireland would have been enslaved, yes, enslaved - for, while Hitler had great admiration for the English, whom he regarded as Germanic in racial stock, he had very little regard for the Irish. These men were fighting for the survival of Western Civilization and democracy. If ever there was 'the good fight,' this was it and they chose to be in it - rather than take the easy way out, which their country did.
Ciaradexy: Your latest extraordinary diatribe confirms that you're psychotic.
The subtitle of this book is misleading. They were ex-British military servicemen, since neither Ireland nor its 40,000 strong army were belligerants in WWII. The estimated 12,000 were British military veterans (even if Irish citizens), not Irish veterans who were British subjects. They would have gotten a heros welcome if they had been fighting for the Irish Army. Their British Army (BA) service was seen as anti-national because it was. Deserters from the Irish Army to the BA were seen as treacherous because they were. The Americans or British don't decorate deserters. Might American conscripts' perception of Kelly/Ó Céallaigh in Tunis/ia have been accurate? Ireland wasn't a newly independent country, it was a recently partitioned one, which goes a long away to explaining De Valera's anti-British sentiment, having escaped a British firing squad for his part in 1916 due to American citizenship. Volunteering for another army whilst serving in one already is desertion, even if to assist Mother Theresa in Calcutta. You can't run an army with a bunch of interloping carpet-baggers. Exposing ones recently partitioned proto-national state to invasion by Germany wasn't helpful to the Allied cause. (How did the British Army deal with their deserters to the Wermacht/German Army?) Do Mr Kelly's aliases represent real subjects or fictious characters. Is his book historical fact or fiction? Did "a man called George" return to Dublin or to Ireland from the RAF? Did William from Dublin and Larry from Wicklow to the RAF/RN respectively go to GB or UK? There is a lot of ignorance in Ireland still, not lease inspired by historically illiteracy and political dyslectic inspired by an unresolved post-colonial inferiority complex which supports a revisionist agenda. The real question is: Does the whole of Ireland have a right to independence from the UK or does it not? Seems political partition inspired a schzoid nationalism.
Which war was this - the 1939-45 one or the 1941-45 one?
Joan1954, you hit the nail on the head. These men needed money to feed their families. Why wouldnt they get out there and fight the nazi's?
George, everyone on this site knows that its you who are racist. You dont want any non Irish people in Ireland so it suits you that an poor black man was murdered. It was probably a member of your family who did it after being brain washed into the white power frame of mind that you have.
A year or two back a black kid was murdered in Dublin by two Irish thugs. According to our resident racist barneyjo this proves that all 4 million or so Irish are racists. What an amadan.
More stupidity from barneyjo. He lists two people shot in Dublin in 1923. Presumably he lists these because they were Jewish. He uses the murder of two people to slander an entire community. I bet there were hundreds of Jews murdered in New York in that same year SO that proves that all of the US was anti-Semetic? And of course there were hundreds of Catholics shot in Dublin that Civil War year too. So the Irish were anti-Catholic? What imbecilic nonsense from barneyjo.
I'm not Irish, just Irish American, but I also feel serving in the British Army was a questionable decision and I can't see the veterans as any sort of heroes. I can certainly understand they were not given such a warm welcome.
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