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Disgraceful cover-up by Vatican continues on Irish child abuse---Irish prime minister has absolutely nothing to apologize for

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The Vatican response to the Irish government criticism of its actions on child abusing priests is simply pathetic.

The Irish government needs to stand firm and not be cowed by this Vatican response which is utterly deceitful.

Prime Minister Enda Kenny has absolutely nothing to apologize for.

The Irish Times headline on religious editor Patsy McGarry's piece on Monday sums it up best

"It takes 25 pages and 11,000 words to say - 'nothing to do with us'

The Vatican washed its hands of any real culpability.

Suffer little children then, nothing to do with us, move along there.

What the Vatican didn't do, as McGarry, a superb journalist. points out, is accept any responsibility for their own part in creating the worst scandal in Irish history involving the church.

The 1997 letter the Vatican sent covering this issue allowed bishops not to turn over evidence of abuser priests if they felt it transgressed canon law.

In other words canon law surpassed civil law even when crimes were committed.

Consider this also the man they sent to Ireland to sort out the mess when it was at its height was one Cardinal Cardinal Darío Castrillón Hoyos, (pictured), prefect of the Congregation for the Clergy, the Vatican body overseeing this issue.

Who was Cardinal Hoyos?

The Irish Times reports that "In 2001 Cardinal Hoyos wrote a letter to French bishop Pierre Pican praising him for not passing information about an abuser priest to police. Bishop Pican received a suspended sentence for failing to report the priest who was sentenced to 18 years for the repeated sexual assault of boys over 20 years, and the rape of one of them.

Cardinal Hoyos wrote to Bishop Pican: “I am pleased to have a colleague in the episcopate who, in the eyes of history and of all other bishops in the world, preferred prison to denouncing his son and priest.”

This was the man in charge of the Irish mess at the Vatican.

Talk about a fox in charge of the hen house.

The Vatican states that Hoyos told the Irish bishops in 1998 that the church “should not in any way put an obstacle in the legitimate path of civil justice” when it came to priest abusers.

They do not revel that he also called for Vatican policy on the issue to be followed.

That policy was that mandatory reporting of priest abusers “gives rise to serious reservations of both a moral and a canonical nature”.

The Vatican letter also warned that procedures in the Irish bishop's document on child abuse appeared “contrary to canonical discipline”. It also referred to it as “merely a study document”.

One Irish bishop stated he felt the mandate from Rome was “a mandate to conceal the crimes of a priest”.


McGarry also reports that at that 1997 meeting then Dublin Archbishop Desmond Connell "thumped a table in frustration as Cardinal Hoyos insisted it was Vatican policy to defend the rights of an accused priest above all."

Another leading clergyman considered that the Vatican orders “placed the [Irish] bishops in an invidious position”.

It meant any priest against whom they took action “had a right of appeal to Rome and was most likely to succeed."

indeed this subsequently happened when new Dublin Archbishop Diarmuid Martin tried to replace two bishops he considered had turned a blind eye to abuse. They appealed to Rome and won their case.

The Vatican is trying to hoodwink public opinion and pretend they were sincere in their efforts to stamp out what they tried to portray as a uniquely Irish problem of child sex abuse.

It was not confined to Ireland as we know all to well here in America and the Vatican response to this day is disgraceful.

This letter to the Irish government just makes that all the clearer.




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"moderator-infused restraints"? There's no surprise in a fanatic's call for censorship. Niall O' Dowd, I doubt that you need to hear a voice opposing censorship. Surely you have lawyers to assure you that litigation against free speech on the Internet is pretty much a hopeless cause. And there are other reasons why you should not remove posts by fanatics like 2Bor or advocates like JuneAnnette. First, 2Bor's psychopathology is transparent enough so that a child could see through his attempts to silence women willing to express views that violate his long-lost idyllic world of Catholic, compliant-female gender roles that survive only in the delusions of him and his ever-smaller circle of "like-minded people." Our words trip their panic lever, and below you see the result of 2B's feeling assailed by the reality he desperately fends off. Others see it too, and sooner or later sense dawns on those who cheer on the Miniver Cheevys. My email holds evidence of repeated attempts to silence me, not only from the psychopath male lead assailant, but also from helpers who think they're safe themselves as long as they abet his attacks-- with insults of the type 2Bor slings here and invitations to digital virus attacks and going on two years' worth of criminal-level harassment. Psychopaths do not cease until they are properly coerced by the proper authorities, so please do not remove anything that might ever become evidence.
Will JuneAgnnewtt ever stop plagiarizing fanciful anti-Cath stories from Foxes' book of 'martyrs' and/or books written by that decrepit, devil-resembling hater (soon to meet his reward) Richard Bennett? Egads... this woman is a single-purpose proddy-tract copying machine, intent on turning these blogs into her personal proselytizing vehicle!! A true ant with a rant full of 'high hopes' this droning bore is! -- The worst part is that the 'moderators' remain curiously silent in view of her grievous and overwhelming abuse of space, and her ostensible threat of turning this blog into a yawning bore filled to an 85% capacity with her christtalibanistic plagiarized musings. Somebody... please!!! Stuff a sock in her pie hole and tie her digits up with a good dose of moderator-infused restraints. -- I for one have to stay away for months to stop my eyes from glazing, as well as to avoid both her screeds and the eeriemuck's PONTIFICATIONS! This last one has been promoting her own elevation to the cardinal college, where she is sure her abundant verbiage will charm the purple-robed ones into handing her the papacy. No doubt she will immediately decree a Vatican runway show where the robes will be 'rainbow colored.' Yup, pretty obvious what type of current powers her generator.
Well, JuneAnnette, no rational consideration ever succeeded in reaching edmicca? Sad! I don't believe in putting energy into hopeless causes, and when people cling so irrationally to fixed ideas that they reject facts and evidence and can only lash out at people trying to reason with them, it's hopeless. I grew up in a multi-ethnic urban neighborhood with the children of many Eastern European and South American immigrants and African-American families that had moved north during and post-WWII. I heard stories of RCC priests involved in genocidal incidents and the RCC alliances with political power that you write about, especially from Jewish friends whose families talked of the Pope's concordat with Nazis, and former fascista who had fled with Church help to South America. Although those stories troubled me over the years, they did not hit hard at my conscience until the 1970s, when I actually saw the Catholic clergy's demonizing of feminists working for equal rights. Then I HAD TO figure out how people who think and preach Christianity as a life's work can be devils incarnate to their fellow mortals. I've written about it before-- it's that desperate need for an authority in their lives, and the more absolute the authority, the more irrational, to the point of cruelty, their loyalty to it. Facts and reason cannot compete with a mindless identification with that all-powerful-- and their "all-powerful" has nothing whatever to do with God or the example of Christ! I'm sorry to see you waste your energy on people with that mindset.
EDMICCA . . MURDER is against both the laws of GOD and MAN,and only men consumed with HATE and acting out of malice could commit and sanction such brutal and inhumane acts cited below that culminated in the death of millions. These are not the works of servants of the Lord, nor of the disciples of Christ . . but the very works of the devil! As Christ has said: “Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him.” (John 8:44a) Christ gave HIS CHURCH the express command / commission to “Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.” (Mark 16:15) Those who reject the Gospel, in effect reject Christ and in those cases, Christ instructed His disciples to “shake the dust off their feet for a testimony against them.” (Luke 9:1-6) Christ never commended and/or sanctioned VIOLENCE. But . . in brazen disobedience to Christ's express command, the Roman Catholic church embarked upon a ruthless campaign of forced conversions marked by bloodshed, torture, tyranny, and oppression. Preaching the Gospel of free and sovereign grace of our Lord & Saviour Jesus Christ is the methodology Christ ordained for HIS followers . . HIS disciples . . HIS CHURCH . . to evangelize the world and was the exclusive means the apostles employed as recorded in the New Testament. GOD's WORD as it is found in EXODUS 20:13: “Thou shalt not kill.” and in MATT. 7:16a: “ye shall know them by their fruits.”***God's Word governs the ONE TRUE CHURCH of JESUS CHRIST of which CHRIST is the HEAD!***"For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the HEAD of the CHURCH: and HE is the SAVIOUR of the body." (Eph. 5:23) (Emphasis mine)
Article: How the Catholic Church united with local Nazis to run Croatia during World War II / The Case of Archbishop Stepinac / Published by the Embassy of the Federal Peoples Republic of Yugoslavia Washington, 1947 / In the village of Stikade, in Lika, the Ustashi were under the leadership of the Catholic priest Morber. Morber invited the Serbs to be converted to the Catholic religion. Those of them who accepted in good faith his proposal to be converted the Ustashi surrounded and massacred with rifles and hammers and threw the bodies into a ditch. When the bodies were dug up later it was established that many had been alive when buried. Franciscans from the monastery in Sinj, Ivan Hrstic, Stanko Litre and Joso Olujic, personally maltreated captured Partisan Serbs and Partisan Croats. Hrstic was a major and Litre a captain in the Ustashi army.Franciscan Mijo Cujic of Duvno personally gave instructions regarding the massacre of Serbs in the villages of Prisoje and Vrila, where not one person was allowed to remain alive.This Ustashi program of mass murder as a way of helping Hitler and Mussolini resulted in the death of over 800,000 persons--Serbs, Croat anti-fascists, Jews.***GOD'S WORD as it is found in EXODUS 20:13: “Thou shalt not kill.***". . Deliver us from EVIL." (Matt. 6:13)
Article: How the Catholic Church united with local Nazis to run Croatia during World War II / The Case of Archbishop Stepinac / Published by the Embassy of the Federal Peoples Republic of Yugoslavia Washington, 1947 / In Dvor na Uni priest Anton Djuric kept a diary of his activities as an Ustashi functionary. The diary shows that at his order the Ustashi plundered and burned the village of Segestin, where 150 Serbs were murdered, and that in the village Goricka he arrested 117 people, who were sent to a concentration camp, where most of them were killed. A group of Franciscan priests who tortured and finally killed 25 Serbs in the village of Kasle took pictures of the "execution."In Hercegovina the center of the Ustashi movement was located in the Franciscan monastery and the high school of Siroki Brijeg. The Catholic Dean in Stolac in Hercegovina, priest Marko Zovko, was responsible for the murder of 200 persons, whose bodies were thrown into a ditch in a field in Vidovo. Curate Ilija Tomas from the village of Klepac was responsible for the death of many Serbs in that district. In order more easily to capture frightened victims who were fleeing to the mountains, he promised them that no harm would befall them if they would embrace the Catholic religion. Many of them believed this and called on him, whereupon he turned them over to the Ustashi, who murdered them.
Article: How the Catholic Church united with local Nazis to run Croatia during World War II / The Case of Archbishop Stepinac / Published by the Embassy of the Federal Peoples Republic of Yugoslavia Washington, 1947/Franciscan Miroslav Filipovic was a member of the illegal Ustashi organization before the war. After establishment of the Independent State of Croatia he participated in massacres in the villages of Drakulic, near Banjaluka. According to his own admission at a hearing his first victim was a child, whom he killed personally while telling the Ustashi:***"Ustashi, I re-christen these degenerates in the name of God and you follow my example." That was in the village of Drakulic, where 1,500 Serbs were killed in one day. Ustashi authorities later made this Franciscan commandant of Jasenovac, an Ustashi concentration camp which equaled Dachau in horror. When captured, Filipovic admitted he had ordered the murder of 40,000 men, women and children in the camp. Besides Filipovic, the Catholic priests Zvonko Brekalo, Zvonko Lipovac, Franciscan Culina and others also worked at the Jasenovac camp.
Article: How the Catholic Church united with local Nazis to run Croatia during World War II / The Case of Archbishop Stepinac / Published by the Embassy of the Federal Peoples Republic of Yugoslavia Washington, 1947/ Chief organizer of massacres of the Serbs in Bosnia was curate Bozidar Brale from Sarajevo. He took part in the killings with gun in hand and advocated "liquidation of the Serbs without compromise." Archbishop Saric later named the same Brale to the presidency of the Spiritual Board of the Archbishopric of Sarajevo.Priest Srecko Peric of the Gorica monastery near Livno declared in one of his sermons in the church in Gorica:"Kill and massacre all Serbs. First of all, kill my sister, who is married to a Serb and then all Serbs. When you finish this work, come to me here in the church and I will confess you and free you from sin."The massacre then began, and by August 10, 1941, 5,600 Serbs had been killed in the District of Livno alone.
Article: How the Catholic Church united with local Nazis to run Croatia during World War II / The Case of Archbishop Stepinac / Published by the Embassy of the Federal Peoples Republic of Yugoslavia Washington, 1947/ Slaughter of the Serbs in Bosanska Gradiska was organized by priest Dr. Branimir Zupanic. As an Ustashi before the fall of Yugoslavia and a personal friend of Ante Pavelic, his words were decisive at the meeting at which the decision was reached to kill the Serbs. By his command in the village of Ragolje alone, more than 400 men, women and children had their throats cut. Fra Franjo Udovic, priest in the village of Koricane, organized and commanded the militia, which he personally led when it burned the property of the Serbian people in the villages of Koricane and Imljane. He personally divided cattle plundered from the victims among his Ustashi.
Article: How the Catholic Church united with local Nazis to run Croatia during World War II / The Case of Archbishop Stepinac / Published by the Embassy of the Federal Peoples Republic of Yugoslavia Washington, 1947/ Jesuit priest Dr. Dragutin Kamber, a sworn Ustashi before the collapse of Yugoslavia, was appointed Ustashi confidante for the District of Doboj. He ordered the killing of about 300 persons in Doboj, and had about 250 more court martialed, of whom most were shot.Priest Ivan Raguz was in close contact with prominent Ustashi in Stolac. Two days before the slaughter he declared there would be "scrambled eggs" and that he would take care of all Serbs. He boasted openly in the cafes that all questions were being solved by him jointly with the Ustashi, and urged the killings of all Serbs, including children, so that "even the seed of these beasts is not left."
Article: How the Catholic Church united with local Nazis to run Croatia during World War II / The Case of Archbishop Stepinac / Published by the Embassy of the Federal Peoples Republic of Yugoslavia Washington, 1947/In the village of Tramosnica, priest Ante Klaric became the first Ustashi commissar, and personally led Ustashi units in attacks on Serbian villages. He organized the Ustashi militia and, according to witnesses, spoke from the pulpit as follows :"You are old women and you should put on skirts, you have not yet killed a single Serb. We have no weapons and no knives and we should forge them out of old scythes and sickles, so that you can cut the throats of Serbs whenever you see them."One practice of Klaric and the Ustashi in Serbian villages was to line up the Serbs in two rows, face to face, and then order them to slap one another's faces and insult and curse one another. In one instance he kept the victims locked in a school house for several days without food or water. Then before his eyes, the Ustashi beat them with gun butts and whips, and, by prior agreement, beat them all the harder the more Klaric asked them not to. Relics plundered from Serbian churches later were found in his home in most unbecoming places.
Article: How the Catholic Church united with local Nazis to run Croatia during World War II / The Case of Archbishop Stepinac / Published by the Embassy of the Federal Peoples Republic of Yugoslavia Washington, 1947/ Some Roman Catholic priests, especially Franciscans, who had become sworn members of the Ustashi, had taken an oath to fight with dagger and gun for the "triumph of Christ and Croatia." How some of these priests conducted themselves after Pavelic, in July, 1941, gave the signal that inaugurated the mass killings, may be illustrated by a few cases from the files of the Yugoslav State Commission for the Investigation of War Crimes. Out of hundreds of cases, mention is made here of only a few which are typical: Priest Bozo Simlesa in the village of Listani was one of the most active members of the Ustashi. He was entrusted with the post of chief in the District of Livno. During the slaughter of the Serbs in the county of Listani he told the people from the pulpit that the time had arrived to exterminate all Serbs living in Croatia. He personally organized the Ustashi militia and obtained arms for it. On July 27, 1941, he held a meeting in the village and when he was informed that all Serbian men had been murdered and that women and children were to be killed that night, he told them not to wait for the night, for 24 hours had already passed since the chief had issued his order that not a single Serb must be left alive in Croatia.
Article: How the Catholic Church united with local Nazis to run Croatia during World War II / The Case of Archbishop Stepinac / Published by the Embassy of the Federal Peoples Republic of Yugoslavia Washington, 1947/ None of this could have been done without the permission of their Bishops, and, since it was done, they should have been brought to the ecclesiastical court and unfrocked. Since this did not happen, then obviously the Bishops gave their consent, by acquiescence at least."Friars and nuns carried Ustashi knives in one hand and a cross and a prayer-book in the other. The province of Srem is covered with the leaflets of Bishop Aksamovic, which were printed in his own print shop at Djakovo. He calls upon the Serbs, through these leaflets, to save their lives and property, recommending the Catholic faith to them.. .. In our country not one Bishop has decried the fate of the innocent Christian Serbs who have suffered more than the Jews in Germany.... "I write you this ... to save my soul and I leave it to you to find a way to save your soul."
Article: How the Catholic Church united with local Nazis to run Croatia during World War II / The Case of Archbishop Stepinac / Published by the Embassy of the Federal Peoples Republic of Yugoslavia Washington, 1947 /Throughout the world the deeds of these Catholic priests were known. Archbishop Stepinac of Zagreb also knew; it was under his jurisdiction that they took place; but never once did he voice a protest against these horrors. Nor were the priest criminals called to answer for their crimes throughout the life of the Independent State of Croatia. Not even when he received the protest sent him by Dr. Prvislav Grisogno, a Catholic Croat and former Minister in the Royal Yugoslav cabinet, did Archbishop Stepinac speak up. This letter, dated Belgrade, February 8, 1942, is quoted on pages 57 and 58 of Ally Betrayed, by David Martin, (Prentice Hall, New York, 1946, foreword by Rebecca West) where it reads in part:"In all these unprecedented crimes, worse than pagan, our Catholic Church has also participated in two ways. First, a large number of priests, clerics, friars and organized Catholic youth actively participated in all these crimes; but more terrible, even, Catholic priests became camp commanders and, as such, ordered or tolerated the horrible tortures, murders and massacres of a baptized people. One Catholic priest slit the throat of an Orthodox Serbian priest.




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