Notre Dame uproar over anti-gay cartoon in student newspaper

Taxes are only collected through violence, no violence no taxes. Try collecting taxes without the threat of jail. Ban any speech about raising taxes, speech about increasing the level of violence in society should not be tolerated.

What a shameful disgusting display. Notre Dame is right to apologize and be ashamed. Let's just hope that retraction comes soon enough to offset a sick/frightened person from committing a horrible crime. @Sungold - Yes - this kind of trash offers someone predisposed to violence an atmosphere of acceptability to go ahead and physically attack someone they perceive as gay or lesbian - because it is dehumanizing and advocates violence - what about that don't you get?

I think that dehumanizing gay people in this way is a constant tactic of the right that leads to people going out and gay bashing, yes. Cartoons that endorse attacking or murdering minorities are no longer merely cartoons. Your comments about Ann Coulter etc are bizarre and distasteful, suggesting ideological bias excuses their intent. It does not.

olovely, do you seriously think that people who read this cartoon are going to run out & start beating gay people with baseball bats? I don't think I know anyone who has ever copy-catted a cartoon, except for maybe small children. I said that the cartoon was unfunny & distasteful, and that the students responsible should be fired from the paper. If the cartoon made the same remarks about Conservatives like Ann Coulter or Rush Limbaugh, would you be as upset? Somehow I doubt it. And as a reminder...not everyone who attends Notre Dame is Catholic, although I would hope that the college paper would reflect Catholic values. My mind is just fine, thank you. No swearing needed.

This cartoon doesn't pass the smell test. I was all set to insist that freedom of speech should be respected, but we have never had the freedom to incite illegal acts of violence. There's nothing funny about this, so I cannot find anything to defend.

Idschap,you better go back and read your bible.I don't think Jesus would approve of gays being beaten with a baseball bat.You are probably a repressed homosexual yourself just like 95% of the priests and bishops in the RC Church. For the record I am also Catholic.

Sungold, do you really believe that cartoons that explicitly suggest beating gay people with baseball bats until they're brain damaged is just a free speech issue? Are you out of your goddam' mind? This isn't a censorship issue, this is about fundamental decency versus incitement to hatred. And the poster ldschap (Mormon?) apparently thinks that adhering to Catholic dogma means not having to bother his conscience if the person being beaten or murdered with a baseball bat is gay. What a great example of Catholic thinking. What a lovely Christian thought.

Even those who agree with the Catholic church that acting on one's homosexual inclinations is a serious sin against the virtue of chastity should be able to recognize that this nasty cartoon sins against the virtue of charity (love of our neighbor) and should not be condoned by a Catholic university.

And here I thought Nortre Dame was a 'good' Roman Catholic school, and adhered to the Catholic church's dogma. No sex before marriage, marriage is only to be between man and woman, and sex between same genders, would result in immediate withdrawal of the sacrament of the Lord's supper? Whatever happened to morals in today's world, where an anti-gay cartoon would call down the wrath of the student body of a Catholic university? I for one, still believe in the Bible, AND the New Testament, that says marriage should be between 'a man and a woman,' or is there a new version of the Bible out there?

CAzares594 you are talking through your homophobic fundament. Gay people are not "demanding" tolerance from intolerant heterosexuals like yourself. You are free to be the hateful individual you clearly are. They could care less. They are asking for legal equality for themselves. They couldn't give a tuppence for your opinion.

Colin Hofman Jay Wade Lauren Rosemeyer those are the 3 cartoonists. their names have been posted on every other website. they were on the cartoon itself.

@iamceltic: so any Catholic that is older than menopause should not ever have sex? no infertile couples should ever have sex? no senior citizens should ever have sex? no one in the gay community is asking for RELIGIOUS weddings. we are asking for LEGAL marriages, insofar as every single right to property, right to hospital visits, right to custodies, tax rights etc. we are asking for the right to EQUALITY, not more, not less. SEPARATE BUT EQUAL was shot down by the SCOTUS in the '50s as regards to education and racial rights. we are asking no more than that. we couldn't care less what the Catholic Church has to say about it. We are AMERICANS and we live in a SECULAR society. the church, ANY church, synagogue or mosque has NOTHING to do with EQUAL HUMAN RIGHTS.

@CAzares594: you can certainly tell you're a bigoted screwball. the sooner people like you fade from existence the better. as far as the cartoonist's names not being published, THEIR BYLINES ARE ON THE CARTOON. their names have been published in MANY blogs the past few days. here they are: Colin Hofman Jay Wade Lauren Rosemeyer all are students with the normal NDU.edu emails, and are also on LinkedIn. they should all have this black mark placed on their personal files for future employers to be able to access. if they're receiving any sort of stipend for this campus job, they should be made to reimburse the university before they are able to graduate. they should all lose their jobs as well this is further information about the mindset of these privileged bigots: Now it's someone else that's to blame: Apparently there is another response from one of the authors. See here: openeconomicsnd.wordpress.com/2010/01/15/off-topic-homophobia-still-a-huge-issue-at-notre-dame/ " I know. It’s awful, it should not have been published. Honestly, I feel really bad about it. BUT, there’s a story behind it. We normally create comics with a group of people and a case of beer, just throwing out random ideas. Usually we create things like this for our own stupid amusement, and the Observer people know that. Sometimes we’ll send them 3 comics over the course of the night because the first two get censored. This was one of those times. My friend told this ‘joke’ to the group and we sent it the comic to mess with the observer people (as we often do). Obviously the person working that night did not get the joke and let it through. I don’t want to in any way want to try to absolve myself from responsibility, but we did not intend for it to be published…. I’m sorry you were offended (for good reason), and we’ve written a letter to the editor apologizing and attempting to explain ourselves."

I second "CatholicsSuck"'s idea that the names of these heroes be published. What a bunch of creeps.

Very stupid, not the cartoon but the apology from the paper editor. Gay people who demand equality from heterosexual are quilty of it themselves, they demand tolerance but could not tolerate those who disagree with their point of view and accusd them as homophobes, they're quilty of ageism, anyone over thirty is considered a troll not worthy of having conversation with unless they are loaded to be financially exploited with, worst backstabber you can encounter.