Israeli writer targeted for massive hate mail from Ireland after column
Wrote Irish schoolboys collecting for Palestine made anti-Semitic remarks
Published Saturday, February 2, 2013, 7:48 AM
Updated Saturday, February 2, 2013, 8:14 AM
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StanleyT | Feb 05, 2013, 03:41 PM EST
John44, I guarantee that if you investigate those "literally thousands" of videos, articles and reports, you would find that 99.9% of them are, at the very least, dubious. The Palestinians make all sorts of claims that don't stand up to investigation, but as Goebbels has been quoted as saying, when a lie is big enough and repeated often enough, it soon enough becomes "the truth".
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StanleyT | Feb 05, 2013, 03:11 PM EST
Joe Glackin, here's how I know you are lying. If you were there and you "seen" the incident you describe, you would have reported it. If you had reported it, it would have been investigated. If it had been investigated, it would have been front page news around the world. It wasn't, therefore you could not have seen anything like the event you describe.
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EamonnDublin | Feb 05, 2013, 03:08 PM EST
I posted a link to a film, guaranteed "genuine", of a group of Palestinians opening up with machine guns on over a thousand Israeli women and children and killing each and every one of them - but it has been censored. I was there, and I "seen" it. Before John44 and Joe G. lose it again and start their vicious abuse, I am just being sarcastic. But I'm sure they get the point. What's that, lads? You DON'T get the point? My, this is even worse than I had thought! Éamonn, Dublin, Ireland.
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John44 | Feb 05, 2013, 02:54 PM EST
@stanley. I posted some links to back up opinions but they have obviously bee censored. Thee are literally thousands of videos,articles and reports on the internet about Israel's treatment of Palestinians and their children. Don't bury your head in the sand
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Joe Glackin | Feb 05, 2013, 02:03 PM EST
STANLYT I was there and seen it.. ITS fact and its your historical belief etc.With that it could also be said your history is nothing but Zionist Jew history.Your attitude to sufferings of the Palestinian people are not oppression. I would encourage you to live there for a while.Maybe your understanding of oppression might change.
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StanleyT | Feb 05, 2013, 01:54 PM EST
One more question for you, Joe Glacken about your story of the school. You don't explain why Hamas was, in the first place, firing rockets from the top of a school while classes were in session (if the story is even true). You don't THAT's a war crime???
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StanleyT | Feb 05, 2013, 01:50 PM EST
Joe Glacken, I challenge you to provide proof of your allegations of the abuse of "young lads" by IDF soldiers. Show me photographs, links, anything impartial. Or are you going purely on the word of some Palestinians, who tell you they know somebody who saw somebody tell them about a friend who saw it happen? This is nothing but another blood libel, like so many others aimed at Israel. And by repeating it without any proof, you do nothing but demonstrate your own bigotry and hatred.
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StanleyT | Feb 05, 2013, 01:47 PM EST
Little boys throwing stones? Take a look on YouTube for the Palestinian girl screaming at Israeli soldiers, tugging their clothes, desperately trying to get them to react for the cameras. Would they really do that if they feared the Israeli soldiers would react the way you've heard they do? If you do believe that, then you're completely blinded to reality.
I would suggest that both of you need to google San Remo Conference of 1920. You will discover that all of Judea and Samaria and all of Jerusalem (and, in fact, all of what is today Jordan) were set aside for "close Jewish settlement". This was enshrined in the Mandate for Palestine - and those legal terms were carried forward by Chapter 80 of the UN Charter. (Incidentally, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq were created at the same conference, so if you dispute the legality of Israel, you must dispute the legality of those other countries as well.)
So on the contrary, Israel withing the green line, and the so-called West Bank, all belong to the Jews under clear international law. But what about the Arabs already there, you ask. Well, how about this, from the 1937 Peel Report: "The general beneficent effect of Jewish immigration on Arab welfare is illustrated by the fact that the increase in the Arab population is most marked in urban areas affected by Jewish development. A comparison of the Census returns in 1922 and 1931 shows that, six years ago, the increase percent in Haifa was 86, in Jaffa 62, in Jerusalem 37, while in purely Arab towns such as Nablus and Hebron it was only 7, and at Gaza there was a decrease of 2 percent"
What you believe is "history" is nothing but Arab propaganda. And the same goes for your modern stories. They are mostly just as false as the "history" you believe is true.
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StanleyT | Feb 05, 2013, 01:46 PM EST
John44 and Joe Glackin, have you ever spoken to Israelis? Have you ever asked a citizen of Sderot what it's like to be given a 15 second warning before a rocket crashes through your roof - hint: that's not enough time to sleep in your own bed. You have to sleep in the basement with your children to keep them safe. Joe, you talk about "Israel stolen territory" - but Hamas rockets are fired into areas within the green line, which most of the world accepts as Israel's "border" (it's not really - it's merely an armistice line, where fighting stopped in 1948).
Have you ever gone to an Israeli mall or restaurant or theatre and had to endure being searched thoroughly to make sure you are not carrying a bomb? Have you ever been invited to an Israel wedding or Bar Mitzvah, and noticed on the invitation that "security is provided" - provided, of course, you go through a search? Do you think Palestinians are the only ones who have to go through check points? And why do you think those checkpoints exist? Do you know that every time Israel dismantles a checkpoint, there is a terrorist attack within days?
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Joe Glackin | Feb 05, 2013, 01:18 PM EST
Theres plenty of evidence filmed about Hamass on the school roof , nothing on the aterrmath
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Joe Glackin | Feb 05, 2013, 01:03 PM EST
StanleyT. As John44 says is correct and very moderate to when I and others went there in the 80,s.The refugee camps were filled with 2 generations of captive families.These were Palestinians who were driven off their land replaced by Communist Jews from Russia.By their Communist indoctrination these Jews easily fitted into the Kabutz system.By being totally impartial, I rem Israeli troops catching young Palestinian as 4 yo upwards boys who had been throwing stones. They would stretch the young lads arms out and break them by smashing rocks ,these soldiers had in their hands. I know that about 5 Hamass went on the roof of a school and fired rockets into Israel stolen territory. The rockets were inaccurate and mainly hit waste ground, disturbing the local Rabbit population. Others hit well fortified Army posts plus probably deserted residential areas.The Israelis hit back by destroying the school and many children ,teachers inside, They who survived were not nice to see. The 5 Ha-mass were long gone.I know suicide bombers boarded buses in Israel and caused horrific carnage.It was not hard getting these suicide bombers as they were in hell anyway. We were there as neutral volunteers.We were ordered out as seen a threat to revealing the Israeli attrocities. Its possible as Israel claimed Hamass used some groups to bring in hardware. It didnt need much convincing for whoever did.But it was Israels excuse to stop human aid plus murder of volunteers. Recently they were hitting Gaza again. So Stantly T ,would you call that mildly ,just oppression.
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John44 | Feb 05, 2013, 11:24 AM EST
StanleyT, May I suggest you go to Israel, cross through one of the hundreds of Israeli checkpoints into the West Bank, where the indigenous Palestinian people face daily humiliations, speak to the inhabitants when you eventually get through . You will first of all get a warm friendly welcome. Ask them about their lives under the belligerent Israeli occupation. Ask them how they are getting on with the 5 years of non violent protests, the unprovoked attacks by illegal settlers, the burning of thier only means of making a living , their olive tress etc, etc. Then when you come home lobby to have your press to start reporting the REAL news of what is happening , funded by US dollars.I know because I lived and worked there for several years and also in Israel.
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timhorgan | Feb 05, 2013, 05:11 AM EST
To be honest, this board is inhabited by a majority of hateful, spiteful, vicious, half-literate twits. Éamonn, Dublin says. Eamon- you must be thinking of Sarsah Honig-read on for spiteful and vicious on her blog - Nutcases "r" us! sarahhonig.com
She rants against the Irish.
She rants against the Swiss.
She rants against the Swedes.
She rants against Pope Pius.
She rants against Pope Benedict.
She Rants against Amnesty.
She rants against Obama.
She rants against Arabs (and can hardly bring herself to mention Palestine or Palestinian).
She rants against the EU.
She rants against the UN.
She rants against Shimon Peres.
She rants against the Oslo Accord.
She rants against "Arabs"sharing roads with Jews.
She rants against Haneen Zoabi.
She rants against Raed Salah.
She rants against the BBC.
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EamonnDublin | Feb 05, 2013, 03:33 AM EST
No, Sea, Joe did not "stump" me, and I did not misread him. One of my posts appeared under another name, but my name (as always) is at the end of it. If you read my posts, you will see that I have not misread anybody. To be honest, this board is inhabited by a majority of hateful, spiteful, vicious, half-literate twits. Éamonn, Dublin. I STAND WITH ISRAEL.
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