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Huge numbers of Irish Catholic priests call for reform

Over 500 priests want celibacy replaced, women priests allowed


Ireland's Association of Catholic Priests calls for reform of the Catholic Church.


Ireland's Association of Catholic Priests is pushing for reform in the Catholic Church, calling for the ordination of women and an end to mandatory celibacy at a meeting held in Dublin early this month.

The liberal group has only been in existence for one year, but the growth of the association has been rapid with 540 Irish priests opting for membership. In its first year, the group opposed the new translation of the Roman Missal and appealed to the Irish bishops' conference to delay the introduction of the changes. The hierarchy dismissed the concerns.

At the Oct 4-5 meeting, Fr. Kevin Hegarty, a member of the association’s leadership team, said what was needed was a church that would open its doors to "married priests and women priests."

According to the National Catholic Reporter, Hegarty said that church structures were a barrier to conversation and “despite the promise of the Second [Vatican] Council ... the church in Ireland failed to evolve a strategy that could learn from and contribute to the new consciousness.” An authoritarian hierarchical structure “is contemptuous of intellectual challenge and is fearful of leaps of the imagination. The consequences have flowed.”

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One priest attending the meeting, Dominican Fr. Wilfrid J. Harrington, said he was motivated to join the association because of “the betrayal of Vatican II over the past 30 years.”

“I now know, from our meeting, that Vatican II is not dead. Now I am aware that I belong to a sizable group of priests, diocesan and religious who still believe in Vatican II. And, happily and vitally, not only clergy, but very many lay women and men.

“After our [annual general meeting] I confidently expect that membership of the Association of Catholic Priests will grow substantially,”

However, not all Irish priests longing for reform are happy with the association.

Fr. Paddy McCafferty, a survivor of clerical abuse and an outspoken critic of the Irish hierarchy, says that the group is “not prophetic in the true scriptural sense.”

He insists that the group cannot claim to be a “loyal opposition” because it is “not loyal at any level and pushing its own agenda all the time.”

“To be loyal to the church is to expose evil for the good of the church,” McCafferty said, adding that he “utterly rejects” the Association of Catholic Priests as “having anything truthful or constructive to offer in the current crises afflicting the church.”

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I'm not a member of the Roman Catholic church but I hope my viewpoint might be worth considering nonetheless. It's a shame that an organisation set up with the aim of reform in the Roman Catholic church concentrates on issues such as female priests and celibacy. Although these issues may be important for some I would propose that there are much more serious ones. Correct me if I'm wrong but one of Vatican 11's most serious calls was for the Bible to be read in the parishes and Catholic homes on a far more widespread basis than before and this in the majority of situations is still not the case. As many sections of the Anglican church have proven, female priests and non-celibacy doesn't reform a church in itself, they are merely issues which need or don't need addressing depending on your viewpoint. But the serious reading of God's Word is something which is necessary and as an outsider looking in, has not happened very much at all. Off course very many situations like this outside the Roman Catholic church also exist. God bless!
people talk of how the church must never change. Well does that mean going back to the good old days. When heretics were tortured and burned at the stake, Gallileo was threatened with torture and placed under house arrest for daring to say the earth was not flat and not the center of the universe..................................... Or should we go back to before Vatican II, when the church claimed that Jews murdered Christ...... A hatred that over a millenia poisoned European society. It made the catholic Hitler what he was, growing up in very catholic Austria. And it paved the way for his leveraging this widespread hatred to get elected. And 55 million died for the church of protecting life..............................BTW I can find no reference that the worst murderer in history, Hitler has yet been explicitly EXcommunicated. And even the partial reforms of Vatican II took 20 years to be put in place. I assume because by then the heat was off the church for its complicity in WWII and the holocaust...................... Or is it really that to EXcomm hitler, the church would have to EXcomm it self for its complicity in the worst of the worst of wars.
I can just see the church doing what it does in the USA to priests who go against the will of the german pope. It cancels their pensions, leaving most of them desitute for their years of service......................................At least it cant get away with what it did during the Inquistion. NOt lonly were 'heretics" tortured and burned at the stake, but they did the same to Jews and Priests who wanted to reform the church of 1000 year Vatican induced dark ages.
To the Moderators: I can't understand what was so objectionable, in yesterday's post, that you would delete my comments.
@ warlocks – I saw the skull of Mary Magdalene in the town of Ste Maximin and visited her cave in the Sainte Baume mountains in Sth France a few years ago. The people in that area have great devotion to Mary Magdalene and you don’t dare say a bad word about her in those parts. I was corrected on the term ‘Apostle of the Apostles’ commonly ascribed to her, as you do. I was told she was the Apostle TO the Apostles... apostle means messenger. Mary Magdalene was the messenger on that Easter Morning who rushed to bring Christ’s message TO the Apostles that He had risen from the dead. Aside from that, I don’t have a problem with Catholic priests being married... bishops too, maybe, but ranks above those, I don’t think so... the demands of the job would not suit men with families. Women priests? John Paul II said it... the Church itself does not have authority from Christ to ordain women into the priesthood. That does not mean they cannot be teachers of the gospel, spreading the Good News as Mary Magdelene did in the Sth of France alongside her friend, St. Maximin.
Maybe their loyalty is to GOD by asking why not
Lets be Honest about the Ban on Female Priests where in the Bible Does God the Father or his Son say all priests must be Males. & no Females need to apply ? Jesus might have had 12 Male Apostles but he Made Mary Magdalene The Apostle of the Apostles. she was made head Apolstle . Its time to stop making Females third class Citizens in the Church as they had done to Nuns for almost 2000 years. its time to have equal rights to the Women of the church!and stop the Old "O" Boys club
Your 100% right Barneyjo, those who accept the double standards within the church are the ones who are lost. The celibacy bit would make honest men of the clergy and give justice to the children they create,the decent ones that is, not those just sewing their wild oats.
Some posters here cant be keeping their eyes on what is going on with the rise in the number of former Anglican Ministers, mostly married, who have been ordained as Priests within the Catholic Church, and who are now working as Curates throughout England. family member tells me that in her parish, one such priest has been appointed as Curate; a married man with two kids, and a very good priest by all accounts. Add to that the fact that the Holy See is doing everything it can to accommodate several Anglican Parishes who wish to be affilliated to Catholic Church because they disagree with the ordination of women as bishops (not priests mind you) within their own communion. It would seem to me that if anybody is making rules up as they go along, it is the senior clerics within the Vatican who think nothing of changing the rules when it so suits. And its not only priests in Ireland who are asking questions, there are large numbers of priests in other countries (Austria for example) who have said they will refuse to follow the churches rules in their entireity. Its hard to avoid the analogy of "Nero Fiddling" when Rome burned, but its getting kind of like that in my view!!
If there are priests who don't like the way the Church is being run, here's the door...don't let it hit you on the way out. Same goes for all the rest of the "Cafeteria Catholics" who want to pick and choose what the rules should be. And the priests who like to prey on young children: I hope someone does you a favor and rips your genitals off...sans anesthesia!
AMEN to reform. Priests should be married too be able to counsel married couples. They can read of book about it, but have absolutely no idea about married life. They have not lived it. I am all in favor of having women in the priesthood. Also America does NOT need a Pope in Rome, and keep ALL of the offerings here in the U.S., DO NOT send any of it to Rome.
I certainly would not classify The National Catholic Reporter as a reputable publication regarding Catholic news.
There were NO women priests in the bible. In fact the bible, not a PC document, differs between the role of men and women in the church. All of the Apostles, Rabbis(old testament), and clergy were men. This is not to say that women did not play an important role in the church. Just a different role. As far as reform, you can not change the doctrine of the church which has been in place for 2000 years passed down from Christ and the Apostles, or you no longer have the true church. Just look at the Episcopal/Anglican church which is losing members as it "redefines" doctrine to allow practicing homosexual clergy and prelates. The church does not conform to the culture, it never can. It most remain steadfast in teaching truth regardless of how popular it may be at a given time in history.
Good for Fr McCafferty!
there were women priests in the bible, the pope knows he is living on borowed time, i look forward to the day we have a female head of the church, not somebody who allows an institution to protect child molesters at the edxpense of womens/families rights. My wife & I are both none practicing RCs who have brought our 2 sons into this world as CofI, a few more safe heretics for you.


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