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Could Hillary Clinton challenge Barack Obama in 2012 in Democratic primary?

Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2010 at 11:41 PM

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New York Daily News columnist Sarah Elizabeth Cupp has put at least a kitten among the pigeons with her suggestion yesterday that Hillary Clinton run against Barack Obama for the Democratic nomination in 2012.

I have heard numerous suggestions along those lines in my own circle so it was not entirely surprising to see it break into print.

Cupp writes that following a heated political discussion among her friends one fact emerged..." for my friends - three thirtysomething left-of-center moderates who voted for Obama in 2008 - only one name would make them consider pulling the lever for someone else: Hillary Clinton."

Cupp admits she herself is a Republican but that "two years of Obama has even me seeing Clinton in a much different light than in 2008, when I thought the only thing worse than a new President named Obama was another one named Clinton."

There is no question that Hillary has been the star of the Obama cabinet. Her work as Secretary of State has been assured and professional.

Her latest venture in the Middle East will have a massive pay off if it succeeds.

The Bill Clinton days are looked on now as rosier than ever. Balanced budget check, economic prosperity --check -- no morale sapping long war - check.

But Obama has played the Hillary card very cleverly making it next to impossible for her to run against him.

By making her Secretary of State he stood by the old motto, "hold your friends close and your enemies closer"

He knew that only Hillary could have been a viable challenger against him in 2012.

I'm not saying that was his only consideration, but it made sense as part of the equation for hiring her.

Right now there is no way that Hillary will challenge Obama in 2012. It is not even on the radar.

However, if the polls continue to plummet, and Democrats have a disastrous mid-term election, then who knows what the next 18 months might bring.

Stranger things have happened.

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tom77777 | Nov 08, 2010, 03:21 PM EST

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aliciayellow | Sep 21, 2010, 05:33 AM EDT

I've always wondered why the Clinton's are disliked. They should be loved, after Bill Clinton took over from father Bush the country had the highest deficit in the entire American histroy. When the Clinton left the administration the country had no dificit. Now Bush junior beat his daddy and managed to produce an even bigger deficit. Making a new highest deficit in the history of America. But Americans voted for him d he stayed a second term to continue to bankrupt the country. Obama has been a disappointment, he is simply not strong enough. Where does that leave the USA? Hilary Clinton would actually save the economy and pull the country together and save USA. Everyone should be voting for Hilary Clinton. And yes, if Bill is part of the team all the better, they were always a great team. I hope the Democrates realise that they don't stand a chance with Obama and make Hilary run. Go Clinton's go!

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Temerity | Sep 13, 2010, 06:36 PM EDT

Maybe Obama will be voted in again?No?I really think Hilary Clinton's time to shine has passed she missed her falling star last election.Pity.What about Sarah Palin (chuckle)well anything can happen in American Politics.Perhaps she could placate the Taliban with mom's home cooked apple pie TLC and her dazzling smile?;-D maybe not they'd make her wear the berka right?

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brycecovert | Sep 13, 2010, 02:02 PM EDT

I don't buy it. That was a really messy fight between them, and I think she's past it. But I do want to point out that she had some pretty flawed economics going on in reference to the deficit. Neither her or Obama get it. For the truth on how deficits work, and a great analysis of Hillary's comments, read this: http://www.newdeal20.org/2010/09/13/deficit-drivel-hillary-singing-same-wrong-tune-as-obama-19948/

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DennisQ | Sep 11, 2010, 05:29 AM EDT

I have to laugh at the idea that Republicans are hoping to position themselves as the party of new ideas. Maybe they're hoping that voters will mis-hear the pitch from the party of no ideas. Comes now SouthBendNative offering up the tired old notions of so-called "leaders" like Mitch McConnell and John Boehner.

Bring it on! Let's hope the RNC hears you, SouthBend. With any luck at all they'll actually go with what you suggest . . . and get soundly defeated in '10 as they were in '06 and '08. From your perspective, though, I suspect Republicans would be better off to avoid any suggestion of going back to the way Bush did things. No, it does not sound like a winning plan at all.

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LindaAnn | Sep 10, 2010, 11:09 AM EDT

I voted for Hillary (write in vote) the last election & would love it if all else did the same.

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Keynyata | Sep 10, 2010, 10:10 AM EDT

Hilary is a dope - and she called for the invasion of Iraq.Niall barked up the wrong tree when he backed her for nomination for president And he also disgracefully cheered the attacks on Obama because he once met a dodgy cleric during the selection battle.Lest we forget. The Clinton woman is a useless politician,,,she is at best a gossip without a trace of talent.

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rorschach | Sep 09, 2010, 11:25 PM EDT

I voted for Hillary in the 2008 primaries, but even I know there's no chance she's gonna buck the party and challenge a sitting president -- who gave her her job! -- in 2012. This "news story" is a pipe dream.

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CullenAbroad | Sep 09, 2010, 10:56 PM EDT

Neither party any good - it's the same difference! They're all in bed with one another. Country needs a radical change - people need to wake up - cop on - and be "We the people, for the people" again. Apathy begets apathy blah blah blah equals more of the same aul' tripe.

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IrishAndProud | Sep 09, 2010, 09:19 PM EDT

Dennis, by default, thinks the American people are stupid, since every poll out there (including the one I cited from NBC BEFORE Dennis responded) show a clear and large majority support the GOP this fall and think they will bring a fresh approach. Therefore by default, they must be stupid -- thus spaketh Dennis. As the Democrats are now learning the hard way (since they've spoken precisely that way to the majority for the better part of two years now), it's not a very good way to endear yourself to public support.

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SouthBendNative | Sep 09, 2010, 08:50 PM EDT

DennisQ, have you ever been given a job by a poor man? Of course there should be across the board tax cuts to create conditions that will entice those with the $$ to create jobs to invest in job creating ventures. Class warfare never works..ask Obama. He won't admit it but he has decided to stick to failed ideology in the face of a blizzard of evidence that it does not work. Controlling spending and tax cuts will stimulate the economy and get people back to work. Thinking otherwise is simply foolish. The nonsense you have heard before is the social engineering, nanny state non-solutions from the left.

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KathyCallahan | Sep 09, 2010, 08:38 PM EDT

Yes

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maloney | Sep 09, 2010, 08:15 PM EDT

hillary...obama, obama...hillary. who cares as long as they both lose in 2012

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DennisQ | Sep 09, 2010, 08:06 PM EDT

Republican "new ideas" include tax cuts for the rich and an a pugnacious foreign policy. Am I missing something here - maybe "states rights"?

Republicans don't have any new ideas, just the old, long-discredited ones. The reason Bush left America in such a mess is that when he ran out of ideas he just kept going. Tax cuts to the rich didn't jump start the economy. An aggressive foreign policy just got us into more wars.

The "new" line of Republican thinking is to ask for yet another chance to screw up. We heard that nonsense before.

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plasticpaddy | Sep 09, 2010, 05:04 PM EDT

Brendan, it would seem to me, despite your statement having truth to it that dems who voted for Clinton in the previous primary voted en mass for Obama. It could well work out the same again if a vice versa scenario were the case.

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