Joe Biden must worry about Hillary and Barack love fest on '60 Minutes' -- Loyalty not a dominant theme for President Obama it seems
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| Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton on "60 Minutes" |
Just days after rescuing Obama on issues such as the fiscal cliff and gun control, Joe Biden must be worrying what it takes to get some loyalty around the White House.
There was Barack on Sunday night on ‘60 minutes’ schmoozing with Hillary Clinton like two best friends forever and not a mention of Joe, good, bad or indifferent.
Barack does not do loyalty as one leading journalist recently remarked to this column. He must know that Irish Joe is gearing up for a run in 2016 and that Hillary is likely his biggest rival.
So there he was on the nation’s most popular news program offering a hosannah of praises to his former bitter rival.
Barack may have knocked back the idea in the ‘60 Minutes’ interview that such political considerations were important, but do you believe him or his lying eyes?
Everything is about the future election in Washington and Biden might have expected a little more loyalty after his herculean efforts to salvage the fiscal cliff talks and take the heat on gun control -- a joint appearance on ‘60 Minutes perhaps?
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No doubt Joe’s hair plugs were on fire as Hill and Barack cozied up instead like an old married couple who had lots of tiffs and made it through despite that.
Despite all the good cheer there is no love lost now or ever between the Clintons and the Obamas. The scars of the bitter 2008 primary campaign will never heal.
Their political marriage worked out very well for both. Obama got a magnificent and workaholic Secretary of State and Clinton got the high profile and relevance that would have been denied her after her stunning primary defeat.
Obama’s tacit endorsement in 2016 will be critical to who wins the Democratic nomination and he seems comfortable for now embracing both his Vice President and his soon-to-be former Secretary of State.
But there will come a day either publicly or privately where the Obama endorsement will make a major difference in the 2016 battle.
It may not go to Biden or Hillary, it could go to Andrew Cuomo or Martin O’Malley, but I’m sure Biden felt he is entitled to it as the ultimate loyal foot soldier for a president who desperately needs his genuine warmth and political gifts such as working with the opposition.
But the Hillary joint interview showed if you need friends in D.C., get a dog, especially when it comes to Barack Obama.
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Meanolgrouch | Jan 31, 2013, 08:33 PM EST
My expectant mother probably would NOT have risked life and limb for Dukakis (ugh) or Kerry (yeaa!) But a lot of us would for Hillary. Helpful hint: the more the rightwing fascists attack her, the more we love her because she must be doing something right! Now you can exercise that closed little pea brain of yours to accuse me of bias in favor of women. I don't care if someone's purple polka dotted hermaphrodite, as long as they aren't a rightwing hypocrite fascist. The left has been hard at work remaking the world into a better place, and we're so far ahead of the trogs that you'll always have to eat our dust. So pull up a chair and I'll set you a place, kay; dinner's served.
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kaydog1 | Jan 31, 2013, 02:00 PM EST
I'm not talking about 'motives' of any kind, 'grouch',I'm simply observing what the Left will lose out on, if they select yet another old white Socialist hack from their stable. I suggest that no one knows this better than the Dem Party leadership, and that they will likely reason as I have. Consider that 96% of ALL Blacks who voted in 2008, voted for "the Black guy." I don't believe that 96% of all Black voters are Leftists, so the non-Commies voted for Brother Barack out of racial identification, not political affinity. Do you honestly believe that minority efforts to get out the vote would be as strong for Hillary, or that your expectant mother would have risked a major intrauterine infection to put a Mike Dukakis or a John Kerry into the White House? I don't think so, but I guess we'll see in a couple years.
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Meanolgrouch | Jan 31, 2013, 10:31 AM EST
Hillary consistently outpolls even Oprah. What do you say to THAT? As for African American potential candidates, keep your eye on Van Jones and Corey Booker. You don't seem to understand, Kay... race really doesn't matter to some of us, the young especially. It's the whole person who counts. One person who impressed me immensely on election day, despite the foul GOP efforts to thwart minority voters in myriad ways great and small, was the expectant mother whose water broke while she waited to vote - and she waited until she DID get to vote before leaving for the hospital. That's dedication. You can put it down to all the bad motives you want. We know where the real stink comes from - your side of the aisle.
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kaydog1 | Jan 30, 2013, 07:11 PM EST
I don't see Biden, or Clinton, or any of the Caucasian 'Old Guard' who have been waiting in line getting the Dem nod in 2016. The Dems HAVE to realize that they have gotten a fantastic amount of mileage out of having a 'Black' President. They have been able to both blunt most criticism of his Leftist policies as simply 'RACIST' criticism, while at the same time motivate their notoriously unreliable underclass base to actually show up and vote for their candidate. Choosing the typical wealthy white candidate sacrifices ALL of that potential, even if they do chose a gay candidate or a union guy, or a feisty "you're not gonna take away MY RIGHT to a free abortion" woman. Of course they'll still trot out the standard campaign rhetoric about how the Repubs are out to put Blacks back into chains, and to take away abortion, welfare, and free phones, but it lacks authenticity if it's a white person saying it. And until such time as they legalize enough Hispanics to be able to set the Black vote aside, the Dems MUST continue to turn out their base. I therefore predict the 'discovery' of either a Black or Hispanic "New Rising sStar" who will "wow" everyone with some GREAT SPEECH that "really crystalizes Democrat Party Principles". This will be the next candidate. Biden and Hillary and all the rest are SOL.
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Meanolgrouch | Jan 30, 2013, 10:31 AM EST
This is just more sour grapes whining. It doesn't matter one whit how capable and eager and loyal Biden may be. HE HASN'T GOT THE VOTES AND NEVER WILL. I give him credit for understanding that! What are we supposed to do, sacrifice the country on the altar of ANYONE's ego? Even the GOP admits the WH is Hillary's if she wants it, no matter who's rash enough to challenge her. But if health or something else causes her to stay out of 2016, her last shot, then there are already plenty of sterling Democrats ready and able to fill the breach: Cuomo and the Castro brothers among them. No matter how worthy our beloved Joe Biden definitely is, he's simply unelectable. Let the GOP carp about alleged disloyalty all they want! Sure, they'd like us to make such a beginner's mistake. And they hate us enough to twist and lie and do every evil thing they can think of. Only a fool believes a word they say.
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Eschetic | Jan 28, 2013, 10:26 PM EST
Not a thing here for Vice President Joe Biden (or those of us who hope to see him run for President in 2016) to worry about here; anyone who has read Doris Kearns Goodwin's marvelous book "Team Of Rivals" merely saw the kind of interview President Lincoln might have given had Secretary of State Seward chosen to leave during his second term (had Lincoln lived). Seward was a great Secretary of State (probably one of the five best up to that time) who had had Presidential ambitions - but would never see them fulfilled. He had become one of Lincoln's closest advisers and friends during their time working together. One can say almost identical things about Hillary Clinton at this point. She might have made a fine President in 2000, but someone else got the nomination and proved to be a great President. She proved to be a great Secretary of State - but many of us will be very surprised if she is the Democratic nominee for President in 2016 - four years after leaving public office. Whatever her future role, she leaves a great legacy...as does, and will, the Vice President. If only we Republicans had ANYONE on a similar level to offer the country! We have four years to find SOMEONE who rejects the radical right and LEADS for positive programs to do what government has always been SUPPOSED to do: that which individuals CANNOT do themselves.
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Towngate | Jan 28, 2013, 07:05 PM EST
Niall; we rejoice in your latter-day conversion to the truth about the puppet Obama. Long overdue but welcome none the less. ~ Btw: ...nice pic of him with his old eyerish granny,above.
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alisaann | Jan 28, 2013, 05:37 PM EST
GOD, give it a break....i'm SICK of the MEDIA trying to find FAULT with EVERYTHING obama does....MORE so the REPUBLICAN KISS-BUTTS....clinton is on the way OUT and people will say and DO anything to turn people AGAINST OBAMA....and i'm TIRED of it.
alisa
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McNamara31 | Jan 28, 2013, 01:00 PM EST
Monsoonman.. The only people who still think Obama "lacks character" are those living in the altered reality of FOX. Just as cigarette cartons contain a "warning message" so should FOX, that states: " Warning, the following content will distort your view, alienate you from your fellow man and your government, and portray our current President as untrustworthy and not one of us. All children or persons NOT looking to have their pre-existing biases reinforced are advised to turn off now"
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Monsoonman | Jan 28, 2013, 11:49 AM EST
Found it appropriate and I am sure none of you lefty's noticed it, that Obama/Hillary/Lance Armstrong all on the same 60 minutes show. What a lack of character/candor all wrapped up in one show.
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pilib04 | Jan 28, 2013, 11:10 AM EST
Niall, come off it. You know as well as I that a 75 year old Joe Biden is not going to take the oath of office on January 20, 2017.
Unquestionably, Joe has been a great Vice President. However, the Democratic party is not going to nominate an old white man in 2016. Niall, I doubt whether the Dems will nominate ANY man in 20165. Clearly, Hillary has the nomination for the asking. And there are many qualified women who can run if Hill chooses not to.
As for the interview, it served both individuals well. The President had wanted to get as much mileage from the Clinton family as possible. He practically doubled with Bill during the campaign. And Hillary wanted the President at her side in case she does decide to run. As for Cuomo and O'Malley, don't hold your breathe.
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PhlutiePhan | Jan 28, 2013, 10:14 AM EST
The claim that Biden was ever a viable candidate was "dumped in the ditch" quite some time ago. His "motor mouth" could never compete with the likes of the "smooth and velvet" ring tones of Hillary.
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Portia_O'Neill | Jan 28, 2013, 09:43 AM EST
Hillary has serious health problems that effect her judgment. Her recent performance in front of the Senate demonstrates she has the power to pull off a weak explanation for the events in Libya. Her next appointment is with a brain scanner.
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michaelidaho | Jan 28, 2013, 08:53 AM EST
I hate to burst your bubble Niall, but neither Biden or Clinton has a chance in 2016. Clinton-because she has too much baggage and she was already outshined by Obama. Biden, well ... do I even need to even explain? In any event, in was kind of funny reading a scathing article about Obama's "lying eyes" ... from somebody left of center.
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