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Posted on Saturday, August 28, 2010 at 06:16 AM
Bill O'Reilly is right; Glenn Beck crowd numbers will be small in D.C.
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Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly apparently have a bet today on the size of Beck's 'Restoring Honor' rally at the Lincoln Memorial in Washington D.C.O'Reilly thinks the total will not top 40,000 while Beck is said to believe it could be 300,000.
I'm with O'Reilly on this one.
it is notoriously difficult to estimate crowds, which is why the park police in Washington no longer do it.
So expect plenty of hyperbole on both sides as to actual numbers.
But 300,000, even with Sarah Palin speaking, sounds like a very long shot.
But I think Bill O'Reilly has probably got it about right.
Beck's problem is that his followers are almost all angry white men and women.
They are ordinary people who feel left out of the current political system and that their voices are not heard.
Beck has done a spectacular job of reaching them through Fox News.
But he has done so in part by demonizing other groups, Hispanics in particular on immigration issues.
Such tactics will make lots of people uncomfortable and will impose a cap on the numbers of people who wiil follow him.
His ratings have leveled off after spectacular growth which is telling in itself.
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He lacks O'Reilly's ability to reach more into the mainstream.
Which is why I think his numbers will be no big deal today.
Time will tell.
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Posted by McNamara31 on Sep 04, 2010, 10:49 AM EDT
pflynn70..."liberal dummies who got us into this mess" Really?...That's the first time I ever heard Bush/Cheney called liberal dummies, because that's who "factually" sent us into Iraq, and then on to the brink of economic collapse. And, for the "most" part, Bush/Cheney were “chicken hawks” (one differed, one a “no show” reservist) not like yourself, or my "dem" husband, brother and father who also served this country.
Posted by pflynn70 on Sep 03, 2010, 01:40 PM EDT
How about close or over 500,000?
Wishful thinking from liberal dummies are what got us into this mess. Enjoy the freedom vet's like myself have brought to our country and see what would happen if we let muslims completely run our country.All you have to do is look at London, the bNetherlands and see the distruction they bring.
Maybe a stint in a muslim country for you and the family would open your eyes.
p/s maybe you should buy you wife a "burka".
Posted by blst4m4ev on Sep 03, 2010, 09:36 AM EDT
Yes, if the majority supporting this cause are white men and women, then there won't be a great showing because these people are the few left in the US who actually work and support the US by paying taxes. They can't just take off work on a whim to go to DC. They would like to keep their jobs. I bet the real number who support this cause is in the millions, but they won't show that at the cause, because they need their jobs, while the illegal aliens and the people on welfare who don't pay taxes are free to come and go as they please and show their numbers at a cause they can attend because they have no jobs.
Posted by maloney on Sep 02, 2010, 06:34 PM EDT
Mc31...your record seems to be stuck. pall parret how many times are you going to say the same thing. Getting senile it seems. NBC said 300,000 yes NBC get over it. you lose
Posted by hancock on Sep 02, 2010, 06:25 PM EDT
The only person who believes CBS is Mac himself.
Posted by McNamara31 on Sep 02, 2010, 05:26 PM EDT
Follow up ....."CBS News commissioned the company AirPhotosLive.com to estimate the size of the rally. Using aerial pictures taken at what it deemed the height of the rally, AirPhotosLive.com said 87,000 people attended the event. The margin of error offered by AirPhotosLive.com was plus or minus 9,000 people." This reprsents .ooo2% of Americans. The only group/person saying 300,000 to 500,000 was Beck himself.
Posted by MaryM232 on Sep 01, 2010, 11:14 AM EDT
Not surprisingly, I see no follow up to this article. The attendance has been estimated at between 300,000 500,000 Americans, and there were black and brown US citizens in the crowd. They were happy, friendly, and decent US citizens, the same people who are representative of the US citizenry who have reached out and helped others around the world during times of crisis. They didn't leave even one scrap of paper on the ground either, unlike the mess left behind for others to clean up after the democrat Obama's lefty crowd at his inauguration. I thought democrats "cared" about the environment?
What anyone who watched the coverage saw, was a large group of people who were representative of the US as a whole.
Posted by Matoig21 on Sep 01, 2010, 11:00 AM EDT
Well OReilly was wrong. Glenn Becks crowd was well over 300,000 thousand
Posted by IrishAndProud on Aug 31, 2010, 11:04 PM EDT
Of course by the same formula, you could break down any LIBERAL crowd's event in D.C. and (assuming THEIR crowd numbers are inherently bigger) think they're a majority in the USA...something no poll currently shows or has ever shown. Gallup has self-described libs at only 21% of the U.S. populace. So, with such an apparent paradox, there's a pretty natural conclusion: the great silent majority, as conservatives have been called, are simply too busy going about their lives to attend marches in D.C. to the same measure that their more idle (and hand-out supported) brethren across the aisle do. But going by any polls or trends, conservatives do indeed intend to make their presence known, in the same way they usually do: at the ballot box.
Posted by hancock on Aug 31, 2010, 09:13 PM EDT
I don't buy CBS estimate, and don't understand your breakdown by population. The first time I ever seen anybody do it. I guess you just hate Beck.
Posted by McNamara31 on Aug 31, 2010, 08:28 PM EDT
Hancock...its basic Math
Population of American in 2010, (305,689,000) divided by the people who showed up on "the most beautiful day Washington has had this year"
(87,000) = a mere .0002% of Americans (and D.C.tourists combined)
Posted by hancock on Aug 31, 2010, 05:25 PM EDT
No, because I figure you're drunk for clinging to your .0002 figure. Now will our lying eyes now be able to trump CBS news?
Posted by maloney on Aug 31, 2010, 04:27 PM EDT
mc-31... I'm fully aware of the ownership of Fox. It all comes down to one thing, the TRUTH. I disagree with Beck on many things. No matter how you slice it, both political parties are not to be trusted. Sad to say I'll take the greedy GOP over the lying marxist dems every day of the year. The last thing I want is the USA to become, say, any country in europe.
Posted by McNamara31 on Aug 31, 2010, 04:09 PM EDT
Hancock...
"Mac go back to the pub?"... "you Irish?"
A bit stereotypical, wouldn't you say?
Posted by hancock on Aug 31, 2010, 03:48 PM EDT
Mac go back to the pub. I don't rely on any news organizatuion and am certainly not obseesed with them as many of you Irish seem to be.
Posted by McNamara31 on Aug 31, 2010, 03:32 PM EDT
Maloney/Hancock... You can't believe who? Do you know you are relying on a News Organization owned by an Australian born owner, and with its major investor being, a Saudi Prince. This is no comment on Australians or any other group; this is just to say they have "outside", rather than "inside", interests. Say what you want about CBS, ABC and NBC but remember they were "American born" and have approached the news with that in mind. No one could have predicted years ago the leverage this News Corp. would have on the American political system and America's world view. This News Corp. knows that stirring smears, fear and bigotry, raises the ratings like a rocket, yet they have no journalistic ethics about the fall out on this country. I have no doubt their "target audience" will be out in droves this November, voting the people who truly "Broke America" back into office. But in won't work in 2012, so I see many more years of American advancement being blocked by the party of "no", fed by the News Corp of Smear.
Posted by McNamara31 on Aug 31, 2010, 03:20 PM EDT
Maloney/Hancock...CBS actually "hired" a firm that day to provide a count. Fox basically "asked" Glenn Beck, how many people "he thought" were there. Interviewed on Fox News, Glenn Beck said attendance for his rally was, "on the low end, 300,000 and it may be as high as 650,000." Sounds pretty much how Fox does business every day, opinions Not Facts.
(87,000people =.0002% American Population)
Posted by hancock on Aug 31, 2010, 02:42 PM EDT
Mac this is why most people can't take you liberals seriously.
Posted by maloney on Aug 31, 2010, 02:41 PM EDT
mc-31...estimated 87000. CBS had these numbers b4 the rally. cbs-nbc-abc-msnbc-cnn, FOX has higher ratings than the rest put together. why? because the rest are liars. Hey progressive liberals. Is that the sound of bums puckering I hear?
Posted by McNamara31 on Aug 31, 2010, 02:09 PM EDT
maloney...I think someone told you some baloney. CBS News... "An estimated 87,000 people attended a rally organized by talk-radio host and Fox News commentator Glenn Beck Saturday in Washington, according to a "crowd estimate commissioned by CBS News" That's .0002% of the American population, on one of the most beautiful weekends Washington and the East Coast has had this summer.
Posted by maloney on Aug 31, 2010, 12:37 PM EDT
oreilly & roberts, both wrong. at least 300,000 maybe 600,000 sounds like dems/liberals crying to me.
Posted by McNabb1966 on Aug 30, 2010, 10:37 PM EDT
LMAO! O'Reilly and Roberts have something in common at last: wrongness!
Posted by IrishAndProud on Aug 30, 2010, 07:38 PM EDT
Yes, indeed...I was just coming back to correct that; thanks for the note, nonetheless.
Posted by Mairin67 on Aug 30, 2010, 06:08 PM EDT
Danger! Danger! Beck and Palin....Danger!!!!!
Posted by jamieLM on Aug 30, 2010, 03:22 PM EDT
IrishAndProud: Alveda is MLK JR.'s niece, not his daughter - to be correct.
Posted by IrishAndProud on Aug 30, 2010, 02:47 PM EDT
Personally, I stand with Ron Miller -- one of the many blacks who attended this in fact racially diverse gathering in Washington -- and who said [BEGIN QUOTE]: "Those naysayers who compare us to the Ku Klux Klan are despicable...by making such a ludicrous comparison, they have revealed themselves to be morally bankrupt, so they no longer warrant a hearing from Americans of good will." [END QUOTE] Oh, incidentally, MLK's daughter Alveda was there, and also addressed the crowd -- by reading her father's famous speech from that same location. Now THAT's reaching out. The race-baiting left wingers who chuck their nonsense on this post (and virtually all of whom are white, I'd guess...and some of whom are not even in the USA and maybe never have been) are NOT reaching out -- not even remotely -- nor are they even interested.
Posted by Southernpride on Aug 30, 2010, 12:54 PM EDT
Fatherpa: the Pope was in Hitler's youth movement. A good canidate
Posted by hancock on Aug 30, 2010, 11:54 AM EDT
Was it as terrifying as the 2008 vote for cool Jesus tour?
Posted by irishfez on Aug 30, 2010, 11:40 AM EDT
This rally, and the collectivism of these people, is really terrifying. The minute we start re-writing history, we're in deep trouble
Posted by Fatherpat on Aug 30, 2010, 09:54 AM EDT
"He lacks O'Reilly's ability to reach more into the mainstream." God help the US that these two bigots and rabble trousers have become the voice of the mainstream. Who's the next US idol? Somebody called Adolf?
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