Thousands fill the streets, is Greece in Wisconsin?
Posted on Friday, February 18, 2011 at 02:14 PM
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The television screen showed angry shouting demonstrators filling the streets of the city. At first I thought I was looking at Athens, Paris or Madrid, where angry civil workers fill the streets when their socialist governments suggest the retirement age be increased from 53 to 55. Oh the wailing and gnashing of teeth! The burning of cars! The breaking of glass! The stamping of feet!
Then I realized the streets filled with demonstrators were American and it was happening right here in the USA, the heartland of the country, Madison Wisconsin.
Where's the civility pledged so eloquently by the President at the Tucson gathering? How quickly things change as shouting protesters carry signs depicting the Governor of Wisconsin as Hitler. There have been arrests for violence and the government has been stopped from doing its business because of the demonstrators and also because the Democrat senators ran out of the state so a quorum couldn't be achieved.
Wisconsin is just first in a long line of states that have come face to face with the fact that the private sector (the goose that laid the golden egg) is in critical condition. It can't be forced to lay anymore golden eggs for awhile and when/if it does, they will be of smaller size. The private sector is tapped out and the public sector unions will have to give back some of the wage and benefits given them by their political minions. In other words unionized public employees will share the private sectors financial pain. They will have to reduce wages and benefits more in line with the private sector and there really is nothing to negotiate because there is no money left.
To complicate matters and take them to another level, President Obama has stepped into middle of this and proclaimed his support for the unions. Through his former community organizing group, "Organizing for America" busloads of protesters and organizers are descending on Madison to add to the volume and chaos. Unions from all over the country are converging on Madison. Will this be a modern day Battle of Gettysburg between the citizens of the United states and organized labor?
Governor Walker told Obama to stay out of Wisconsin and tend to his own federal budget which is wildly out of control with a 1.6 trillion dollar deficit. He said Wisconsin would take care of its own budget problems without his help.
The voters of Wisconsin overwhelmingly sent their resident tax and spend politicians packing last November and voted in a new majority of Legislators and Governor who promised to restore their state to fiscal discipline. This included dealing with the public employee unions. The newly elected officials are carrying out the will of the Wisconsin voters.
Whats lost in all of this, are the children of Wisconsin. Nowhere in the unions concerns are mentioned the welfare and education of the children. Wisconsin is # 44 out of 50 in the quality of education, almost at the bottom. Yet Wisconsin's unionized teachers are near the top in wages and benefits. Where's the cost to benefit analysis?
What happens in Wisconsin will have a powerful effect on the rest of the country.
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maloney | Feb 21, 2011, 12:08 AM EST
prevailer,,liberal talking points, yadda yadda yadda. Do you feel it all slipping away?
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Prevailer | Feb 20, 2011, 11:22 PM EST
The huge budget problem is a foil. The gov. just give huge tax breaks to the top 5%. The outcry by this phoney is orchestrated. It is not about the debt, it is about busting the unions to help defeat the Democrats in 2012. It theater.Its democracy. Sure.
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Monsoonman | Feb 20, 2011, 12:45 PM EST
The new Governor and newly elected Majority in the Wisconsin State House were overwhelmingly elected by the citizens of Wisconsin. The people of Wisconsin want government size and power cut, they want the unions ourt of the mix. Governor Walker noted the thousands of union personnel demonstrating and said that was all well and good, but he was elected by millions. Look for privatization of most government services in the future. The unions have selfishly priced themselves out of the market like they have with every industry they gain a foothold in....Like an infestation of fleas, untreated they end up killing the host.
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hancock | Feb 20, 2011, 10:35 AM EST
The present idiot didn't have a mandate for nat socialized medicine either.
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DennisQ | Feb 20, 2011, 04:20 AM EST
The newly elected Republican governor and the legislature do not have a mandate to bust public unions. They think they do; but that's a mis-reading of the recent election.
Union-busting is much farther to the right than Wisconsin actually is. That's why the Democratic senators have in effect filibustered the bill by leaving the state. The tactic may succeed if voters become aware that the present government is acting for ideological reasons rather than genuinely representing the people's interest. We'll see how this plays out.
The private sector isn't "tapped out" - that's more ideology from Farnham, who promotes ideology far more often than he does common sense. These are bad times that Bush got us into. The business cycle was heading down anyhow; but then Bush launched expensive wars and put them on a credit card.
Incidentally, if you're looking for a cost-benefit analysis of Wisconsin's investment in education, you should be aware that there's a lag time between money spent and an improvement in measurable outcomes. The opposite is also true. The money that Republican Governor Tommy Thompson refused to spend in his four terms would also lead to a measurable decline in student performance.
Union-busting is much farther to the right than Wisconsin actually is. That's why the Democratic senators have in effect filibustered the bill by leaving the state. The tactic may succeed if voters become aware that the present government is acting for ideological reasons rather than genuinely representing the people's interest. We'll see how this plays out.
The private sector isn't "tapped out" - that's more ideology from Farnham, who promotes ideology far more often than he does common sense. These are bad times that Bush got us into. The business cycle was heading down anyhow; but then Bush launched expensive wars and put them on a credit card.
Incidentally, if you're looking for a cost-benefit analysis of Wisconsin's investment in education, you should be aware that there's a lag time between money spent and an improvement in measurable outcomes. The opposite is also true. The money that Republican Governor Tommy Thompson refused to spend in his four terms would also lead to a measurable decline in student performance.
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quartercelt | Feb 20, 2011, 12:32 AM EST
Thank you for reporting the reality of the situation. Most of the media are slanting things very left, and it's been a little upsetting not to see the truth get its due. Governor Walker was elected by the majority of the good people of this state to do exactly what he's done. He is holding fast, and we have every confidence in him. Please keep us in your thoughts!
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maloney | Feb 19, 2011, 09:07 PM EST
Lame arse liberals motto..do as I say not as I do because anyone but a liberal would be shot for all the laws broken by the far left loons. The anything goes libs could care less about the country, they care only about themselves. Typical hands out progressives.
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Monsoonman | Feb 19, 2011, 07:47 PM EST
This just in, caught on tape: There are Doctors among the demonstrators who are writing medical excuses for anyone that asks for them, for as long a period as they want, no questions asked.
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tievemore | Feb 19, 2011, 07:18 PM EST
As a citizen currently living in Wisconsin, I can anecdotally state the "person-in-the-street" sentiment is running at least 90% in favor of Gov. Walker's position. A great sign seen at Saturday's counter-protest (in support of Walker's position): "Sorry we were late Scott - we had to work".
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seanmck66 | Feb 19, 2011, 06:56 PM EST
Those taxpaying private-sector people who were able to join on a Saturday owe their days off to the same unions they complain about... There were no weekends (as we know them) before unions... And if the private sector has it so bad, why are they spending so much on incompetence at the top?
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shelaylee | Feb 19, 2011, 05:11 PM EST
we are being kept in the dark on face book .no news ,so thank you .we all need to pull together and help each other get the word out and to be informed ♥♥♥♥ I love you all
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Monsoonman | Feb 19, 2011, 03:47 PM EST
Question: Who is paying the thousands of unionized government employees filling the streets of Madison Wisconsin? If you call in sick, but you really aren't do you still receive your paycheck? I notice today, Saturday, the actual taxpaying private sector is showing up in Madison to support the governor. They couldn't afford to take time off of their private sector jobs during the week so they come on Saturday....Interesting.
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