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Emigration 2.0: 5,000 a month leaving Ireland



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Departure gates at Dublin Airport
Departure gates at Dublin Airport. Emigration takes hold once again.

Over 5,000 Irish men and women are leaving the beleaguered island every month as emigration takes hold once again, a BBC documentary has revealed.

The village of Gneeveguilla in County Kerry has been hit particularly hard.

Although the tiny rural village only has a population of little over two hundred people, emigration has hit it so hard that the local GAA chairman is worried about the team’s collapse because so many of the key players will have emigrated in the near future.

The collapse of the construction industry in Ireland, as well as other economic factors, have jointly contributed to a renewed push to leave the country as young and old alike cannot find any prospects on the ‘old sod’.

Liam Murphy  of Murphy's Trailers  told the BBC how his sister was one of the emigrants and how she recently called him and said she had found herself in a bar in Brisbane with no less than 42 other young people from the immediate area.

Three young local men, identified as Sean, John and Patrick are also all planning to join them, in the hope that they can find work and success abroad.

The growing trend of emigration - which has now picked up a frightening pace - is contributing to both a sense of sadness and despair in Ireland, as once again the nation’s best and brightest head for the emigrant airplanes in search of a brighter future abroad.

"It'll be tough enough leaving. When our friends left it was tough as well, but you have to understand there's nothing for us here," Sean told the British broadcaster, “It's a once in a lifetime opportunity. Get out there and live for yourself,” he said.

Two of Gobnait Carmody’s three children have emigrated to Australia. She says that it’s her son she missed the most, though fears that he will never come back from the new world.

"He's very, very happy and he knows how things are here now and there's no point coming back here," she says. "He's a worker, and I wouldn't like to think of him lying about in bed all day and being on the dole," she said.

The news is hardly surprising.

The Economic and Social Research Institute (ERSI), Ireland’s foremost think-tank, recently estimated that 120,000 will have emigrated in 2010 and 2011 combined, if the rate continues at its present pace, while even the political class are losing hope that the emigrants will ever return.

"My fear is a lot of them won't come back," said local  Fine Gael TD, Tom Sheahan. "I don't believe that our economy will turn around sufficiently in the next five to six years to bring them back," he said.



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'Tis a sad, sad day! I hope Ireland can develop new jobs and businesses. Ireland is home, other places just are not!
It is sad to see people leaving the Country who don't want too. Brian Cowen will not take any blame for what has happened it is now the fault of all the greedy irish people nothing got to do with how he ran the Country as Minister for Finance. They will not answer a straight question when asked. The Green Party are like little laps dogs desperate to stay in Government and will agree to any old tripe that Fianna Fail dish out. The Government are letting the Country drop into a black hole but I work here everyday and I meet ordinary people who are determined to keep going as best they can
I was thinking this morning of how Brian Cowen, as Minister for Finance, used to claim credit for Ireland's incredible tiger-powered economy. He was one of those in government who called upon the Irish diaspora to return home to benefit from the transformation that he and his colleagues had achieved, raising the Republic from its lowly status one of Europe's poor relations to its new, lofty position as the EU's fastest growing and most dynamic economy. Now that the full extent of his mishandling of the situation has been revealed, the same Mr Cowen claims credit for the "reconstruction" now being hastily cobbled together and asks the Irish people to return him as Taoiseach at the next election. What he does not do is appeal to intending emigrants to hang on and witness his next party trick. Those who returned and those who are now about to leave have effectively been abandoned by Fianna Fail, which secretly must hope that as many of them as possible get the Hell out and take their money problems with them to another jurisdiction. Can a divided Fine Gael, a clueless Labour Party and a faux-radical Sinn Fein come up with anything better? Probably not. They would have taken us down much the same route. So what should we do? Vote with out feet, apparently. This is what it's come to.
Killowen - I was there as the Juggernaut still to a hault, the best minds in Ireland had been ignored since 2001. Their being ignored now. When our old people take to the streets for their medical cards but not for the future of their grandchildren(ie NAMA) ... how can we win? I was told I was stupid not to buy a 435,000 apartment, even though I pointed out that neither my income nor the Galway economy would support it. These are now 200,000. People still aren't listening now and most of those who could see what was coming have left. I'd love to see some hope but until people have a shift in their thinking I don't.
we were masters of our own destruction and NAMA means this generation can never go back. If we hadn't guaranteed the banks we'd have been alright, starting from zero is a lot easier than starting from -54 to 89 billion
It is very sad. In order to earn money to feed the body, you have to leave the place that feeds your soul.
I read with distress on the emigration situation. My family emigration was also a result of the smart ass goverments of the 80's. My family were totally left to fend for ourselves. we have worked so hard in another county and are still working 60 hours a week 20 years later. It so unfortunate that the New York area is not really available to you now, unlike what is was in 1990.Yes it is a brain drain, and I for one am proud that we made it, at least it was not us that were the problem. I am doing today successfully what the Irish would not allow me do 20 years ago, and that is an honest days work for an honest day pay. now and back to work for me....if I can help anyone I will...
For someone with a wounded knee you sure can dig a hole.
Watchman: I have already lodged a complaint about your threat about "getting my head ripped off". It may seem like baravado to you to make these threats, but there are enough psychos on the Internet--you appear to be one more--to make me take it seriously. Get help before it is too late.
Killowen:Take the Spike out of Dublin.Stick it on the west coast.Chain it to a big ship and tow us further out to sea?
Its a tragedy. The best minds who serve others needs be tapped to draw up a plan for collectives across Ireland within which lies the solution that will ensure a stable and healthy economy for a people who seems yinged and yanged constantly.
The majority of immigrants here are english anyway..just sayin like.
WoundedKnee: You need to attend an anger management course. Either that or get your GP to refer you to a psychiatrist. There's obviously something seriously wrong with you. In the meantime, I think the rest of us should move on.
Did I get inside in your head splinteredknee?That pleases and excites me.Please continue this frutile exchange you have going here,I'm flattered.
All I know is that the Construction Industry in the Boston Area is Hurting at the moment ad that there are a lot of Illegal Irish around but we won't comment on that.
Watchman: No need for your silly advice--I can take care of myself in any environment. And what a stupid threat about me "getting my head ripped off". How dare you speak like that to someone you don't even know? I would suggest you have the courtesy to read the entire exchange before jumping in like a rhino with diarrhea. The poster whom I chastised had accused me of being "English", why I don't know. I was astonished and sigusted that someone considers "English" as some kind of insult. Or maybe you too view "English" as a legitimate insult? In that case you're as inane as the guy you're trying to defend. All the more hypocritical, when the same guy was unable to string three correct words of Irish gaelic together. And to add even more to the inanity of that poster, this was coming from a guy who seemed to preen himself on being so open to other cultures! A great admirer of "multiculturalism", but can't say three words correctly in one of the languages of his own country! Sounds like prima facie evidence that the guy is what I said he is--then again maybe in your case birds of a feather ...
Greed will get you anyplace
What is it about Ireland? When my mother, who emigrated, returned finally after 50 years to visit relatives, concluded that if she were to plan her trip over she would have gone to Paris instead, and met her relatives there (where many have children and grandchildren). I enjoyed my visit to Ireland long ago, but only to meet relatives. ... Those who emigrate to hopeful, forward-going places seldom want o return. The US is now another matter, with the extreme right wing relentlessly aiming to make the country a land of propertied aristocrats (sound familiar?) rather than a middle class democracy.
I am an emigrant and totally love being off that island called Ireland.i do not understand the hype that it is like the old days as we have skype these days and can see each other daily if we choose. ireland is really a prison island run by the Vatican and elite, so to be forced to emigrate is a blessing.
What is even more depressing; when one thinks that since the Brits were kicked out of the 26 counties nothing of substance was built, in fact, until the Celtic Tiger inner cities were beginning to crumble and it was common place that heavy winds could blow chimneys down and in some case buildings collapsed with loss of live. Will the 26 Counties have to wait for almost another 80 years before any significant regeneration?
Amazing. No point in coming to teh US - we have our own problems.
Seeing as Ireland is already another region/province of Britain and Germany, is there any chance America can squeeze 1 more state into the union?.In 1922, Irl had 0 national debt, the figure today (including bank guarantees is heading for 600 billion euro)!.Has a nation with so much potential ever achieved so little?.Nothing to celebrate in 2016.
WoundedKnee: I was going to comment earlier on your views, but decided not to. You think one thing; I think another, and let's leave it at that. But could I suggest to you that you be more generous and less disparaging to other commenters. You're forever calling those who disagree with you "ignorant". "You're an awful ass," you tell Antoman, "who throws ignorant insults at people rather than argue rationally. What a low life you are." Irony aside, I have to tell you that if you say things like that to people when you're face-to-face - when you're in a pub, for example - you're going to get your head ripped off someday. But then I doubt that you do. So let's try to keep it civilised.
"Irish people are becoming more and more scarce, in Ireland.... And that is not a good thing" I suspect you'll agree with me I&P that in amadan-antoman's case it might not be such a bad thing. I doubt if any other country wqould have any use for his er... talents however.
If you DO move to another island (or wherever else), antoman...you'd only be following in your countrymen's footsteps -- leaving Ireland for elsewhere, whilst the foreigners remain. Your post (assuming it's true and not mere fantasy) merely confirms what so many of us are saying: Irish people are becoming more and more scarce, in Ireland...and non-Irish foreigners more and more prevalent. And that is not a good thing.
Tog a beag e knobblyknee.I'm from Cork city.While in town this morning I saw thousands of immigrants of all nationalities infact it was so crowded I could'nt get over patricks bridge and had to climb down a ladder and wade across the river to the other side.I was promptly stopped and cautioned on the other side of the river by a black garda which really irked me as being from Ireland and Cork at that I have always considered myself just as black as he(no blacks no dogs no Irish,,english sign).It being a beautiful sunny day I dryed quickly and decided to have a coffee in a nice little place run by the Polish.Having concluded my appointment with my friend,who is english by the way I struck for home.Using my Nokia phone,is that a japanese brand?..I phoned my local Chinese and ordered some of their fine cuisine for dinner.,and now I'm responding to scrappedknee on the net which is probably an American invention..maybe I should move to another Island huh?
I can understand how the Irish feel. Americans feel the same way about being "over-run" with ILLEGALS. My Norwegian friends are as resentful as the Irish. Many foreigners, including Muslims, are arriving in Norway, especially Oslo, where they can't find work and sign up for the Norwegian dole.
Féach ar an antoman-amadán a deir gur Sasanach mé. Nach náireach an t-asal é, nuair a chloiseann sé tuairim nach maith leis tosaíonn sé ag caitheamh maslaí.-----oooo---oooo----Since I'll bet that you don't have two words of Irish Gaelic to rub together I'll translate for you, antoman. I said in Irish that you're an awful ass, who throws ignorant insults at people rather than argue rationally. What a low life you are--you think that saying someone is English is the ultimate insult. I note that you're too big of a dope to be able to refute my statistics on Mass Immigration. They're easy to understand, even for a D student in Math, but I guess you're too lazy to look them up. Stop your stupid insults and act like an adult, you dope. As to the intervention by SouthSideIrish, instead of trying to defend the amadan antoman, how about you tell us if you think it's a good idea for the population of Ireland to be replaced by foreigners in one or two generations? The people of Ireland certainly don't--all public opinion polls show 70% and more (higher among the young people) who are unhappy with their country being settled by waves of foreigners. I suspect you share amadan-antoman's ignorance, so for both of you I'll point out that my user ID commemorates a tragedy that befell a culture that was unable to stop Mass Immigration into their lands. Look it up, it's not my job to educate amadans, be they from the South Side or wherever.
And another thing (because I can see this reaction to me coming): the Irish go overseas because there's NO JOBS AND NO WORK in their homeland. The foreigners who continue to arrive in Ireland in these current times (and even many who did during the 'Tiger' years, for that matter) are obviously NOT going there for work, since there's so little of it to be found -- they're going there for the free perks and goodies given to so-called 'asylum' seekers (the Nigerians are notorious for this). And until Ireland tells these non-Irish-as-you-can-get foreigners to get the hell out and stay out (and take your culture with you), this nonsense is going to continue. They'll milk the system until you literally physically MAKE them stop (laughing at how stupid you are for letting them), and not a moment sooner.
I noticed (once again) that it's about IRISH people leaving. Are the non-Irish foreigners (such as Mid-Easterners and Africans) leaving Ireland -- thus opening jobs and/or public funds for Ireland's own? Not likely. They always stay put, no matter what -- because Ireland on its worst day is light-years better than their homelands on their best days...and if the Irish keep subsidizing their utterly purposeless presence with tax dollars they don't even really have, why move on? Just stay there and keep pretending like you're one of them (and many don't even do THAT much). Insanity...stupidity...when will the Irish say 'Enough!' and cut off all public benefits to any non-Irish on that island, and DEPORT them? This is called looking out for your own FIRST, folks...why won't Ireland do this? Political correctness, maybe? There's NO EXCUSE for allowing this -- even less for defending it! At least in the emigration waves of the past, the population merely shrunk; there weren't oddball foreigners there diluting the Irishness of the island, in the process. And for every single Irish person who leaves, Ireland becomes that much less Irish.


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