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Sensation as Vatican overrules Dublin archbishop Diarmuid Martin

Reinstates two bishops after he had forced their resignations


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Dublin abuse victim Andrew Madden has said he is “not surprised” at the Pope’s decision not to accept the resignations of two Dublin bishops despite the lack of confidence shown in them by their Archbishop Diarmuid Martin. The two bishops resigned on Christmas Eve last after coming under immense pressure from media and the public in general not to mention their own Archbishop.

While many Irish American Catholics will be angry at the Church for essentially stirring up this whole abuse debate again with this controversial decision, there is a lot to chew on in this latest development. 

On one side of the argument is the camp that says an injustice was being done to the two bishops to satisfy a lynch-mob in the wake of the Murphy report.  This argument is strengthened by the fact that the Health Services Executive (HSE) here was dragged kicking and screaming to admit that over 25 children died in its care in the last 10 years.  However, the other camp will see this as the Vatican protecting its own and slapping down the liberal reforming bishop Diarmuid Martin who has such public support he could be the only person in the country with enough public goodwill to run for the Presidency next year!

There is a lot to back up the thinking that Archbishop Martin ran afoul of the Vatican for his very public dressing down of fellow bishops.

For instance, Archbishop Diarmuid  Martin came back from the Irish Bishops’ meeting with Pope Benedict last February, his first instinct was to meet and brief survivors. 

One of the survivors of abuse in Dublin, indeed the main whistle blower on the cover-up in Dublin of gross sexual misconduct by priests and mismanagement by Bishops, Andrew Madden, told waiting media that Archbishop Martin “was a changed man” since his return from Rome.  The implication was that Archbishop Martin had got a dressing down for his very public appearances here calling on fellow bishops to be accountable and to take responsibility.

Wednesday’s news that Pope Benedict has decided not to accept the resignations of the Archbishop’s two remaining auxiliary bishops appears to verify Madden’s statement.  Rome does not agree with Dr Diarmuid Martin’s approach of shoot first and ask questions later.  The fact that the Pope has not accepted the resignations, means that Dr Martin will have to sit across the table from two men he refused to express confidence in last December.


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1. Archbishop Martin NEVER called for resignations, and never recommended resignations or sackings. He did say people should hold themselves accountable. It was the baying media people in Ireland that called for resignations. Few mainstream Catholics called for resignations but media frenzy swayed many to. 2. A/bishop Martin is not the leader of the RCC in Ireland. The Archbishop of Armagh is the Primate of All Ireland. The current holder of that position is Cardinal Brady. Because the Republic and Nth Ireland are separate political entities, the title of Primate of Ireland is given to Dublin’s Archbishop (but not of All Ireland). 3. A/B Martin is therefore subservient to Cardinal Brady within the Irish Church. Cardinal Brady, like all Cardinals, is subservient to the Pope. (However, the Pope governs the world-wide RCC in communion with the College of Cardinals). 4. A/Bishop Martin could not have had his authority undermined by the Vatican since he is subservient to its decisions. 5. Garry O’Sullivan and Niall O’Dowd are completely wrong in the way they present the Irish RC and RCC at large as operating. >>> Get your facts right before you write. You’re only doing the same as the Irish media - led by the anti-Catholic Irish Times (they really should call themselves the ‘English Times in Ireland’) – whipping up unjustified frenzy.
A/b Martin has had his authority undermined, and the only honourable thing for him to do is resign. One of the court cases in the USA has been dropped against the Vatican,but let no one say that the clergy is independent. This proves that everyone, from A/b down, is just an employee.
Der Pope needs to consider some other occupation. I wouldn't recommend lecturing at a boys' school in Bavaria, e.g.
I don't know why Ireland wants to continue taking Shyte from Shyte?!.
Maybe PB16 is afraid of the Domino effect...he too should resign and move on... The Queen moves to Bishop?
The Pope, who is just a man, not a holy god, should also resign... ???
GOD bless the pope. "You are Peter. On this rock I will build my church. The gates of hell will not be strong enough to destroy it. 19 I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. What you lock on earth will be locked in heaven. What you unlock on earth will be unlocked in heaven." St. Matthew 16, 18-19.
@bcoc1124: What God thinks of all this? There is for instance the brilliant pre-judice of Jesus about those coming in his name, like this: Matth. 7:22: On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you evildoers!’ Jesus, the Lord in all that context, was pretty sceptical about all those servants coming in his name. He was right when he warned, left no doubt about confidence tricksters, the wolfs in sheeps clothes, for instance. This quote above is making real sense if somebody cares to visit a library, they have plenty of books with the Church, History, etc. and takes a look at history. "You will know them by their fruits!" - thistles or grapes. What is interesting now is that the church, whoever, is ever more forces into escapesim, Jesus and his warnings, his prejudices are simply non-existing, even though they are not printed smaller. The talk is ever more clouds, smoke and funerals, and the after life. Or that the Bible was written a long after Jesus, so nobody really knows anything, even though the prejudices of Jesus, his warnings about questionable servants and false prophets are really clear. That's the dilemma of the Church and theologians now, they obviously have no option left other than escape into disbelieve.
This is the last straw - the "old boy network" at work once again! I wonder what God thinks of all this? - bet she doesn't like it one bit! Not one dime to the church - my charity will be directed to causes I trust, and, obviously it is not the roman catholic church in the guise of its bishops (Bernie Law et al) I am coming to understand Martin Luther's frustration.
 




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