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Kenny brands Vatican a disgrace as fall-out from Cloyne report continues

Fine Gael chairman calls for Papal Nuncio to be expelled from Ireland


Irish Taoiseach (Prime Minister) Enda Kenny
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The Vatican and the Irish state are at loggerheads in the aftermath of the shocking report into child abuse in the Cork diocese of Cloyne.

Irish Prime Minister Enda Kenny has branded the Vatican’s approach to clerical abuse enquiries as a ‘disgrace’.

Minister for Justice Alan Shatter has warned the Pope’s representative in Ireland, Papal Nuncio Archbishop Giuseppe Leanza, that he expects a swift response to questions raised by the official enquiry.

Fine Gael chairman Charlie Flanagan, a senior member of the government coalition, has demanded that the Papal Nuncio be expelled from Ireland in the wake of the Cloyne report.

And Fianna Fail leader Michael Martin has warned that the Bishop of Cloyne, Dr John Magee, should not be excluded from the threat of jail if prosecutions follow in relation to incidents outlined in the report.

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Dr Magee is currently in hiding in America but is under pressure to return to Ireland.

Prime Minister Kenny has also warned that Canon law will not be allowed to supersede state law after introducing legislation which makes it mandatory for priests to reveal details of child abuse, even if they become known in the confessional box.

Priests who withhold information will be jailed for up to five new years under the tough new laws which contravene Canon law where a priest can be excommunicated for revealing confession box secrets.

“I think this is absolutely disgraceful that the Vatican took the view that it did in respect of something that’s as sensitive and as personal with such long-lasting difficulties for persons involved,” said Prime Minister Kenny.

“The law of the land should not be stopped by a collar or a crozier.”

Papal Nuncio Dr Leanza deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Foreign Affairs Eamon Gilmore in the wake of the publication of the Cloyne report.

Gilmore told the Papal Nuncio that Vatican’s intervention in Irish affairs was ‘absolutely unacceptable’. He also demanded an explanation as to why the Vatican had told priests and bishops they could undermine Irish rules in relation to clerical abuse of children.

“I want to know why this state, with which we have diplomatic relations, issued a communication, the effect of which was that very serious matter of the abuse of children in this country was not reported to the authorities,” said Minister for Foreign Affairs Gilmore.

“The Vatican had conveyed a message that somehow it was alright to evade responsibility for reporting these matters to the Irish authorities.”

Papal Nuncio Dr Leanaza said: “I am very grateful to Mr Gilmore for the meeting. I think it has been a useful meeting. He has given me a copy of the report, and I will bring it immediately to the attention of the Holy See.

“I reiterate the Catholic Church’s total commitment to take all necessary measures to ensure the protection of children.”

The Cloyne report outlines how Bishop Magee misled the government by claiming the church’s guidelines for handling abuse cases were being fully complied with.

It also reports that he falsely told the Health Service that allegations of abuse were being reported to police when the reality was that two-thirds of complaints made between 1996 and 2008 were not reported to either police or the health service.

Senior Vatican spokesman Fr Federico Lombardi issued an emphatic ‘no comment’ when asked about the Cloyne report but did not rule out making a comment at a later date when the Holy See has fully assessed the report.
 


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The spirit is the inner self no need to believe in gods or demons.
The Spirit gives life too seanomelbourne. With man's manipulation growing weaker maybe now it will too will be set free.
The vatican is worn out and irrelevant in todays society. No longer will the populace "heel" to priests and bishops their fear mongering does not work anymore.With education comes freedom of the mind.
Gearoid4, without repeating the last six lines of your comment, is that in itself not enough? Imagine the mentalty wthin the confessional when porporting to speak on behalf of Christ.
I agree with barneyjo -- expel the Papal Nuncio and break diplomatic relations with the Varican. This cover up has gone on far too long and WE must put a stop to it. Parents must go directly to the police, and to newspapers if that's what's needed if the investigation is getting nowhere.
@Barneyjo, I offer no defense of those who engaged in criminal acts or their subsequent cover-ups. I do equate any wrongs committed by anyone else to excuse these despicable acts. The victims of these terrible acts should have been front and center of Church responses but unfortunately they devoted more of their resources to hiding the allegations against suspected abusers. Of course, the consequent devastation of innocent young lives both spiritually and psychologically is unforgivable. But I still have to be convinced that there was a Vatican conspiracy to subvert Irish domestic law. I will watch 'this space' as you advise to check out any further developments on this.
@Gearoid4 - put simply, two wrongs dont make a right!!" You talk with relative ease and complecancy about criminal violations and cover-ups by "some" within the church, but in doing so, you totally ignore (whether by choice or expediency)the consequences of those actions. It is bad enough that priests, bishops and cardinals wilfully conspired to cover up the actions of priest abusers in the interest of protecting the good name of mother church. The fact that their actions or rather inactions were the cause of countless broken lives, broken bodies and broken souls in the eyes of God and of humanity is as inexcusable as it is unforgiveable. You say there is no conspiracy? I'm sorry but if you care to "watch this space" over time I believe you will be forced to think again on that one!!
While I condemn utterly the criminal violations of children by those in priestly ranks along with the ensuing cover-ups by bishops and their vicar-generals, I don't think such inappropriate and frankly unhelpful descriptions as 'satanic' progresses us any further to a solution. The Church is made up of both laity and religious and such malign words cannot be used to describe the totality of the Church. The criminal actions of some priests and the corresponding cover-ups convey to us the human failings of the Institution when it miserably fails to live up to the service and humility demanded of it by the gospel. Any reform must be based on these realities and return to the one source that we can trust, namely Jesus Christ. David Quinn, the reputable commentator on Irish Church affairs has made two salient points regarding the whole issue of Child abuse vis-a-vis Church and State. He described the hypocrisy of the state insofar as it has for a long time held back in having a mandatory reporting policy enforced regarding it's own child-protection laws due to reservations similar to the Vatican's. Also the Vatican did not directly interfere in Irish secular law but rather was voicing it's concern that priests might be able to escape penalties invoked by canon law due to the laws of the secular jurisdiction treating them contrary to church law. This was ill-advised but was not the grand conspiracy that the local media was touting as Rome's response.
@Collette2 - that is precisely why we should keep the faith and change the church; and by change, I mean exactly what that entails!!
Witness is the operatve word barney: A witness to what? We can't separate ourselvs from our faith without spiritual conflict when we rely on those ordained to take care of our spritual needs as Catholcs who are complicite in flagrantly abusing their position in a way not intended or acceptable to God.
@collette2 - I dont think faith is being eroded. Is it not more belief in the institution of the church and what it has shown itself to be?? No, if each of us as individuals, and then as a wider collective can retain our faith, then surely we can change the church so that it can be both the instrument and witness to Gods presence in the world it always should have been, but never quite go to!!
@mtheresa - thank you, I stand corrected :)
Richard, I wouldn't bring the Jewish elementint the equasion, this is a Catholic issue entirely as far as I'm concerned and I totaly agree with you. As Catholics we must speak up and be a witness to a faith that is being eroded else we are complicit.
Padre Pio was beatified(Blessed Pio) some yrs. ago and was canonised a Saint in 2002. He is now St. Pio.
“I reiterate the Catholic Church’s total commitment to take all necessary measures to ensure the protection of children.” Papal Nuncio Dr Leanaza Excuse me if I don’t believe the sincerity of the Papal Nuncio’s commitment. In fact I have no reason to believe any bishop, papal representative or pope. There has been nothing but the rhetoric of empty apologies, false sentiments of shock and shame, denial and outright lies.




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