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Irish scholar reveals who grandmother of Virgin Mary was

Extraordinary find in Florentine religious documents


Painting of Virgin Mary and Baby Jesus - new evidence on Mary's blood line revealed by Limerick professor
Painting of Virgin Mary and Baby Jesus - new evidence on Mary's blood line revealed by Limerick professor

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The  great-grandmother of Jesus, grandmother of the Virgin Mary, was a woman named Ismeria, according to a University of Limerick lecturer/historian  who has analyzed Florentine medieval manuscripts.

"I don't think any other woman is mentioned" as Mary's grandmother in the Bible, the Limerick-based Catherine Lawless, told Discovery News. "Mary's patrilineal lineage is the only one given."

"Mary herself is mentioned very little in the Bible," said  Lawless,  "The huge Marian cult that has evolved over centuries has very few scriptural sources."

George Ferzoco, a research fellow at the University of Bristol, said the Lawless paper analyzing the legend is "brilliant" and "reveals an exciting trove of religious material from late medieval and renaissance Florence, where many manuscripts were written specifically for females."

The legend of St. Ismeria is  presented in the current Journal of Medieval History. It gives remarkable insight on the Biblical Virgin Mary's family.

Lawless says  she found the St. Ismeria story, which was  "ignored by scholars," in two manuscripts: the 14th century "MS Panciatichiano 40" of Florence's National Central Library and the 15th century "MS 1052" of the Riccardiana Library, also in Florence.

"According to the legend, Ismeria is the daughter of Nabon of the people of Judea, and of the tribe of King David,"  she said . She married "Santo Liseo," who is described as "a patriarch of the people of God" in single mouthful.

The parchments say that after God called her to "Paradise," a rector told the Virgin Mary and Jesus she had died .They went to her bedside accompanied by  the 12 Apostles, Mary Magdalene, Mary Salome and Mary Cleophas.

"What is so striking about St. Ismeria," Carolyn Muessig of the University of Bristol's Department of Theology and Religious Studies told Discovery News, "is that she is a model for older matrons.

Let's face it: Older female role models are hard to come by in any culture."

"But the fact that St. Ismeria came to the fore in late medieval Florence," Muessig concluded, "reveals some of the more positive attitudes that medieval culture had towards the place and the importance of women in society."


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Very interesting but strictly conjecture. Going all the way back to the 15th Century and then all the way back to Jesus walking the earth. They had no computers or Google then.
I am simply amazed that some people would actually think that Christianity is a "Myth!" Many things that Rome did to the church were anything but Christian, but they didn't manage to kill Christianity altogether. Being Christian means to be Christlike - loving and giving. I've known Jewish people who fit this profile far better than so-called "Christians."
FAO of the Moderator: I made an error in the first sentence of my comment: It should have read, " I'm not sure that this new evidence is anything more than 14th century speculation based on human tradition since the genealogy of Joseph and NOT Jesus' mother is outlined in the New Testament.
I'm not too sure that this new evidence is anything more that 14th century speculation based on human tradition sine the genealogy of Joseph and Jesus' mother is outlined in the New Testament. It is a fact that Jesus was born of a virgin by the power of the Holy Spirit and this is proven by many prophecies contained in the Old Testament and are referred to in the New Testament account of her conceiving. But her real name was Miriam and not Mary as the greater majority of Biblical scholars have concluded. Not only that she did not remain a virgin as even a cursory reading of the New Testament will reveal and she bore Joseph four sons and at least two daughters. In Matthew 1:25 are the following words, " and [ Joseph ] did not know her [ that is, have sexual intercourse with her ] till she had brought forth her firstborn Son [ this indicating clearly she had more sons ] . . . . ". Don't take my word for it - read you own Bible. But you can read these in Matthew 12:46, 13:25, Mark 3:31, Luke 8:19, John 7:1-10, Acts 1:14 and Galatians 1:19. Spurious rejections of these clear verses from the Holy Bible have been and will be made, but those with opened minds will recognize the plain truth when it is presented to them and they will reject human tradition. Nor was she assumed body and soul up into heaven. The Bible itself makes this clear. Jesus Christ said, " No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is the Son of Man . . . . " ( John 3:13 ). And the apostle Paul wrote in I Cortinthians 15:50, " Now this I say, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God . . . . ". The Bible is the inspired word of God and it does not lie or mislead, but human beings do.
Feline1-it was Mary who was immaculately conceived. Immaculate Conception refers to Mary. Virgin birth refers to Jesus.
In what way does this "revelation" shed any more light onto the bigger picture, i.e. the Virgin birth?!! So what if Jesus' mother had a mother (of course she would have unless she was a miracle too), what we need is evidence that Jesus was immaculately conceived, that he was the son of God because let's be honest, that is the biggest whopper of all times!
This is so interesting. I'd love to read the full article. It would be realy great to see the family tree drawn out!
I'm not Catholic but I am very pleased to see this piece of research extending what is known of the historic lineage of Jesus. There are so many attacks on Christianity today as a 'myth'. Those who scoff at Christianity will be so disappointed when they stand before God.
Interesting. The church patriarchs intentionally left out references to women in biblical history, particularly Mary Magdalene who was Jesus's favourite. Women have always been seen as threats to the established order; therefore leave them out!
To Ellenfromcork-- as I remember, St. Ann was mother of the blessed virgin Mary. This would make St. Ismeria the mother of St. Ann!!
great history we did not know or at least i did not know of.
Mary clearly had some gentry roots, her cousin Elizabeth being married to a Temple priest, who were the aristocrats among the Jews of the time. And "carpenter" might better be translated as "small construction company owner." There was plenty of well paid construction work available in a Roman city, newly discovered, very close to Nazareth. There is more evidence to support the Holy Family's status as the equivalent of comfortable middle class rather than poor. Given Mary's family background, and hints of her knowledge of Jewish Scripture, and the relative liberalism of Galilean synagogues and Pharisees, it would not be surprising if she had learned Hebrew writing and could read the Scriptures. And though Mary is not mentioned often, those mentions are powerful - visiting her cousin Elizabeth and quoting Scripture, cajoling Christ's first miracle, traveling to Egypt, traveling to the Temple, listening to Christ teach Scripture in the Temple, being at the Crucifixion, being present at Pentacost, never being petty or mean.
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