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Irish religious orders €400m short in abuse redress payments

After a decade of negotiations with the state, promised transfers still held by church


Minister for Education puts pressure on religious orders
Minister for Education puts pressure on religious orders

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Glacially-paced negotiation leaves 18 Irish religious orders with €400 million yet to raise to complete their target redress amount for child abuse victims, the Irish Examiner reported.

Of the 18 orders in question, only one has cooperated with the government idea that the religious orders where abuse took place pay half of the necessary redress to victims, with the Irish taxpayer shouldering the other half, according to the Examiner.

On Friday, Education Minister Ruairi Quinn shepherded a bill through Oireachtas — to be signed by President Michael D Higgins this week — which is to set up a trust fund to which the orders can contribute cash.

Quinn said that the orders’ progress thus far have been “unsatisfactory,” the Examiner reported.

The total amount owed to victims, according to the government, is €1.36 billion.

To be guaranteed indemnity from civil prosecution, the orders agreed in 2002 to contribute  €128m in property and cash to the fund; ten years later, only €105m has been transferred to the state, with orders retaining a fifth of the properties they promised to transfer, RTÉ reported.

At the time of the 2002 deal, the estimated cost of redress was €500m. The 2009 Ryan report on institutional abuse more than doubled the estimated cost, to its current €1.36 billion.

Three years ago, the orders agreed to increase their target transfer amount by €350m, in accordance with the new abuse findings in the Ryan report, but the government called that additional amount insufficient, according to RTÉ.

The orders offered to transfer what they said amounted to €235.5m in property, but only 12 of the offered properties were deemed suitable, the Examiner reported.

“The value of these 12 properties, based on the congregation’s own valuations, is approximately €60m,” Quinn said.

One of the orders, the Religious Sisters of Charity, has offered €5m if they are able to raise funds from the development of six valuable properties, contingent on the approval of Dublin City Council.

Over the past half-year, only one property has been transferred to the state; 20 properties which were promised a decade ago have still not been signed over, according to the Examiner.

Quinn has said in the past  that “nobody wants to bankrupt the orders,” IrishCentral previously reported.


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Why should overburdened Irish taxpayers bail out corrupt clerical child sexual abusers as well as casino capitalist bankers. (Gee, Laura - love the she[e]pherded metaphor. If it had been Ruairí's ministerial colleague Shatter, ya coulda used Sepharded!) Still, not uninteresting how the Orders are slow on the draw with their purse strings, in stark contrast to the institutional churches' adeptness at parting pensioners from their frugal shekels down through the millenia. The Mighty Quinn may have to do a King Henry (Rí Anraí) VIII encore in dissolving the monasteries and expelling the monks, if they continue to drag their sandals. For an institution which claims to follow a Messiah whose kingdom was not of this world, they have a fairly impressive real estate portfolio. But then, don't the Anglicans too!
hermitTalker Yes, I agree with you. The Roman catholic church corporation got the heads up and got its money into trusts, untouchable and off shore.You are so right. A child can still be raped in care 2012 and HSE and Gardai are not awfully bound to investigate and the state does not take itself to court. So nothing has changed to protect the wee slaves...oops children
If the orders owe it, then they must pay. It that means selling off property, then they should do so. Their assets should be frozen until this case has been settled. The Church has been escaping free of charge on the child-rape issue all around the world. It's time to pay the piper. I no longer give cash at the collection. I give in-kind services or I volunteer to purchase items for my parish or pay part of a bill. However, I will not give cash.
If they owe it, why not just pay it up, and start rebuilding confidence and rebuilding their property stake, if that is their reason for existing? If property and riches are not the reason they are there, then perhaps this is the best thing that can happen to both the orders and the State.
Before the usual anti-Church, anti-Pope rants begin, may I comment. This is a specifically Irish phenomen where the State worked with the Catholic and other denominational agencies to operate detention and rehabilitation agencies, and some clergy (priests ) and sisters and brothers) more correctly religious sisters and brothers (nuns is not technically correct belonged to those religious communities. Some clergy attached to dioceses and some to reliigous communities and some religious also taught in schools. Each group had physical or emotional sexual abusers in each category. 1. The individual diocese was not resposible for the abuse in the laundries etc within its boundaries. 2. The law is not that clear about the responsibility for its priests/clergy conduct legally as recent events in the UK showed. 3. The Church as institution and the Pope/Vatican have very little endowments, investments - most of the wealth is in buildings and lands, owned by each diocese; and also treasures for the Vatican which are the Patrimony of the world and selling them is not a practical option. 5. The Minister as was reported here before, repeated today, cannot get money from most of the buildings in the current market, and not all are available, for example their retirememt places and medical facilities for some. 6, It is not practical now to repay the debt. One has also to acknowledge that regardless of the culture and fear and social power of the Church as such, gardai and other civil powers and Government were also guilty of neglect, lack of oversight- the Government still is in 2012 with no national oversight for protection of youth, not even screening for baby-sitting/child care privately.
 




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