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Irish public wants church to withdraw from healthcare, poll shows

The Sisters of Mercy and Sisters of Charity orders still own two of Ireland's biggest hospitals


Mater University Hospital, Dublin
Mater University Hospital, Dublin

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Three out of four people now believe that the Catholic church should pull put of the ownership and governance of healthcare institutions in the wake of yet another scandal about the church's role in child abuse and the cover-up of that abuse, reports Irishhealth.ie.

In the latest readers' poll by irishhealth.ie asked whether, in the wake of the damning Cloyne report, the Catholic church should be allowed to maintain any involvement in healthcare, 75percent said no, 21percent said yes, while 4percent were undecided.

Their poll result reflects public concern over the church's involvement in hospitals, including children's hospitals when there has been such abuse scandal in the past years.

Details of horrendous abuse and a staggering cover-up were revealed in the official report of the Diocese of Cloyne.

Since the publication of the Cloyne report, Taoiseach (Prime Minister of Ireland) Enda Kenny has launched a scathing attack on the Vatican over its role in the Cloyne scandal.

Speaking to the Irish parliament, Kenny had accused the Catholic Church hierarchy of downplaying ‘the rape and torture of children’ to protect its power, standing and reputation.

"For the first time in Ireland, a report into child sexual abuse exposes an attempt by the Holy See to frustrate an inquiry in a sovereign, democratic republic, as little as three years ago, not three decades ago. In doing so, the Cloyne Report excavates the dysfunction, disconnection, elitism and the narcissism that dominate the culture of the Vatican to this day, " the Taoiseach said.

At present, The Sisters of Mercy and Sisters of Charity orders still own two of Ireland's biggest hospitals - the Mater and St Vincent's in Dublin city.
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The Sisters of Mercy ran a number of industrial schools in the past including the notorious Goldenbridge. The Sisters of Charity were also involved in running institutions where abuse took place, reports irishhealth.ie

The Mater Hospital's website states: The Mater Misericordiae University Hospital is a single member company limited by guarantee with a share capital...the company is a subsidiary of Mater Misericordiae University Hospital and the Children's University Hospitals Limited...the majority of the members of the parent company are Sisters of Mercy and the remaining members represent the Catholic Archdiocese of Dublin, the Catholic Nurses Guild of Ireland, the Society of St. Vincent de Paul and the medical consultants of the Mater Misericordiae University Hospital and of the Children's University Hospital, Temple Street."

A list of of hospitals in which the Catholic church has a major involvement in ownership and governance includes:

* Children's University Hospital, Temple Street (Sisters of Mercy).

* St Michael's Hospital, Dun Laoghaire (Sisters of Charity).

* National Rehabilitation Hospital, Dun Laoghaire (Sisters of Mercy).

* Our Lady's Children's Hosital, Crumlin (Chaired by Catholic Archbishop   of Dublin).

* National Maternity Hospital (Chaired by Catholic Archbishop of Dublin)

* Cappagh National Orthopedic Hospital (Sisters of Mercy).

Two voluntary hospitals formerly run by religious orders - Our Lady of Lourdes in Drogheda and Portiuncula in Ballinasloe, became State-run hospitals in recent years.

To see Irishhealth.ie poll results - click here.

 


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HSE "care" is the one place where you can LEGALLY ABUSE A CHILD AND GET PAID FOR IT.These are the words of a child on leaving care system.
A child is 7 TIMES MORE LIKELY TO BE ABUSED IN HSE CARE than at home.. Just about says it all really.
Gearoid4 Sadly, the very same secrecy applies to HSE and child protection as it did to the Catholic church. It is all set up that way. Look at the training of social workers- 6 months of programming and they act like gods, obsessed with power. I had the pleasure once of having a UK trained one- no degree- trying to force me to repeat 3 times after him, that he had the power to do as he pleased.I got the long lecture re knowing my place as a woman in Catholic Eire. He also worked as psychologist, family therapist and psychiatrist, but when I checked- HE WAS NOT REGISTERED/BONDED with any professional organisation. He still works with children in the HSE.....Still boasting about his Power. No different to the church.
This must also apply to the HSE. After all look at MMM Drogheda and how the abuse of Irish men and women was kept hidden for years. We all knew but the church had too much power and looked after its own.Think about the torture of unmarried mothers by those nuns- it was awful, making them suffer for the sin of becoming a mother and less suffering if you were married- but just a little. The HSE uses mental torture on abused children to try and get them tokeep quiet re abuse. Social workers etc can do as they please in secret too.
You do not see a Nun in habit or a priest doing health work in the hospitals now, thank God. But Rome does have some hold on the properties in ground rents and deeds, it is hard to imagine the wealth that is involved in properties alone all over the world. I would go along with what Towngate said but no Nuns please. The HSE has made many mistakes concerning children, as well as overpaying themselves, but maybe just maybe the government can keep thier word and get things working right. ( on this subject at least, if nothing else )
If a majority of people in a poll want the Church to withdraw from providing Hospital and School services, then why do they do not apply the same criteria to the national Health Authority of the Irish Republic, the HSE (Health Service Authority) which has dismally failed a lot of children under it's care. Very recently HIQA, the Health Information and Quality Authority of the Republic issued a report which found the following shocking revelations for Dublin North Central Local Health Area(this report was a follow-up to one made last year)- Inspectors found cases where suspicions concerning certain foster child carers were not shared by some social workers with their colleagues Files relating to children were found to be in 'poor' state No national child register concerning the suitability of carers No system whereby one local Health Board can share vital info on child carers with another. Gordon Jeyes, the head of the HSE's Child and Family service deemed the current attitude within the HSE to be "appalling". How can such a shambolic situation be allowed to continue without the media or people in the Irish republic demanding the HSE withdraw it's labor from child-care or for it to be disbanded or completely reformed?
About time too. ~ Nationalise them; then freeze,seize,and sequester ALL their funds and property worldwide to help pay for the running of them. Former staff /nuns, etc can continue employment on strictly Civil Contracts.
 




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