Gerry Adams unveils seven-point plan for a United Ireland
Sinn Fein leader announces plan during 1916 commemoration event
Published Sunday, April 8, 2012, 7:55 AM
Updated Sunday, April 8, 2012, 7:55 AM
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DanOLoingsigh | Apr 18, 2012, 07:23 PM EDT
Seano - The Soldiers Song is not a version, as it was first written as this in English, and later translated into an Irish version...and only the chorus forms the national anthem...so those Germans need not be too upset by the slight on their good name...although given the current ECB attitude, maybe the third verse has an unexpected resonance...
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seanomelb | Apr 17, 2012, 07:55 PM EDT
The national anthem of Australia is "Advance Australia fair" (Australia the beautiful) replacing "God save the queen" an old anthem for imperialist.In typical redbranch fashion he tries to hide his bigotry,"The Soldiers song" is the English language version of the anthem if that's your problem and your choice is a northern song.When a united Ireland eventually happens I'm sure a national competition will select an appropriate anthem.
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RedBranch | Apr 17, 2012, 04:56 AM EDT
OK point 4: Amhrán na bhFiann is a rousing anthem and I've heard it sung passionately at Landsdowne Rd., but not appropriate for a united Ireland. Its legacy is too tied up with the Independence War and the early days of the IFS. Some of the lyrics are offensive and harken back to a revolutionary period we have, or should have moved on from. A number of years back Australia voted for a new anthem and the outsiders choice of Waltzing Matilda (itself a jaded stereotype) the country went for Australia the Beautiful, a much better song. The Londonderry /Derry / Stroke City Air not only has a long and storied connection to Ireland, its cross community, it is rousing in itself, praises the land and people's links to it and reaches out to the Diaspora. Furthermore its in English so I and my neighbours can understand it
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RedBranch | Apr 17, 2012, 04:44 AM EDT
OK Curitiba I have returned from a trip South. I crossed the border at 70mph, travelled freely throughout Dublin and its environs, never felt my car would be targeted when parked with 'foreign' reg plates. We have what John Hume called an 'agreed Ireland' and I am happy with that.
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seanomelb | Apr 16, 2012, 07:49 PM EDT
I just asked a question and I presume you agreed as you(or falls) did not argue.If you have a point state it. My post on Apr.11 answered allan07's post and if you find any part incorrect please let me know if not keep quiet and stop making a fool of yourself and the dummy falls sitting on your knee.
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DanOLoingsigh | Apr 16, 2012, 03:03 PM EDT
Seano - why not just address the question?
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seanomelb | Apr 15, 2012, 11:15 PM EDT
Dano and falls,which one of you is laurel or Hardy. My apologies to L&H.
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Curitiba | Apr 14, 2012, 07:58 AM EDT
However, at the moment, given the risky economic situation, i believe a United Ireland is about as pertinent as the question as to whether Moldova and Romania should be one country. It is only when countries are prosperous and self-sustaining that these questions legitimately arise, not when people are pouring out of the country looking for work. After all, the economic reality is that reunification has to be paid for.
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Curitiba | Apr 14, 2012, 07:51 AM EDT
RedBranch: It is indeed risky to unite two small political entities such as NI and ROI, especially as one no longer has an economy of any description, and for whom the industrial revolution never happened and the other is a former industrial power ( although not a large one compared to Britain), but is now mainly reliant on the UK public sector. Had NI retained its industries, and the Celtic Tiger actually been a real and lasting "industrial revolution" that created a permanent wealth in ROI, then I would have said it would have been imperative that both states reach an accomodation that would lead to a United Ireland, and one where future generations would feel free to live and work anywhere in the country they like,and not feel that they cannot take up a particular work opportunity, just because they are from a certain religious or political group without feeling like he is unwelcome in a different part of his own country. After all a Polish immigrant does not care what part of Ireland he lives in, so long as he has a job. Why should a native Protestant or Catholic feel that they are not welcome in certain parts of their island home. I believe that is what a United Ireland should be about.
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STEVENSTAR | Apr 12, 2012, 08:21 PM EDT
@@allan07 | Apr 11, 2012, 03:05 PM EDT As the advert says "the future is bright the future is ORANGE". What a lovely colour. Green is cold and depressing. The bogey boys may think otherwise. (Bogey as the green and slimey stuff from your nose). Thats why you are called the bogey boys! GREEN AND SLIMEY>>>>>>>>>>>>>>YOU REALLY SOUND LIKE A TOTAL TWAT MATE..IM SOUTHERN IRISH AND HERE IS MY OPINION ON YOU..I WISH WE COULD TAKE PEOPLE LIKE YOU,THE ORANGE MEN, GERRY ADAMS AND ALL THAT'NEGATIVE BITTER OLD' ATTITUDE YOU PEOPLE HAVE AND SEND YE OFF SOMEWHERE NICE..THAT GOES OUT TO BOTH CATHOLICS AND PROTESTANTS ON BOTH SIDES FOR THE MINORITY LIKE YOU SEEM A VERY BITTER AND HATEFUL BUNCH.LIKE MOST ENGLISH AND BRITISH PEOPLE I KNOW THEY DONT GIVE A HOOT ABOUT NORTHERN IRELAND THE SAME AS THE MAJORITY OF US IN THE SOUTH DONT GIVE A HOOT ABOUT NORTHER IRELAND..I CERTAINLY DO NOT WANT IT BACK. I WISH YOU PEOPLE WOULD GO AWAY AND LEAVE US ALL LIVE IN PEACE ON BOTH SIDES AND STOP INFLICTING YOUR OLD BITTERNESS AND YOUR NEGATIVE ATTITUDE ON THE REST OF US IRISH AND BRITISH PEOPLE, CAUSE THE END OF THE DAY MOST OF THE BRITISH LIKE THE IRISH AND MOST OF THE IRISH LIKE THE BRITISH AND NONE OF US LIKE PEOPLE LIKE YOU.
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sirpeter | Apr 12, 2012, 06:42 PM EDT
allan07.Is 28 your age or is it you're IQ?lol.Fallsers your buddy is gearing up for nuclear war.lol You must be so proud this guy is from NI.lol
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FallsRNat | Apr 12, 2012, 05:31 PM EDT
dano - at best seano & sirpeter are at best irritating, at worse irrelevant, Adams could get elected tomorrow, ballot the SI for a UI, their vote won't be recognised under international law as everybody else inc the EU, US signed up to an agreement where the status of NI can only be decided by the people of Ulster, my guess is that FG, Labour, Greens, FF would refuse to recognise the poll, he would be challenged by irish people in court as the whole expensive process would be unconstitutional. Even if he somehow managed to organise a ballot there would be a mass boycott, the last thing the SI need is to look totally stupid in the eyes of the world, are the people of the IR really going to elect a one issue party, i don't think so. People are much more worried by having a job, feeding their kids, saving their houses without having to find an additional €12b a year to subsidise NI & that's not including the either the reparation fees for the mass exodus that would follow or a resumption of the armed campaigns by the Loyalist paramilitaries, anyway back to the reality, we will be debating all this on this board in 20 years time.
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TayandCake | Apr 12, 2012, 04:38 PM EDT
allan07 talking about nuclear war, what a complete saddo, get a life and get over your bitterness, be away with ya and give my head peace
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DanOLoingsigh | Apr 12, 2012, 03:28 PM EDT
Reassuring to see the Melbourne twins churning out the same old Anglophobia...they don't see the irony in decrying an 'invasion' but happily benefitting from the result..
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