Cardinal Dolan says President Obama gets his Irish temper up on contraception issue
Says the days of 'fat, balding Irish bishops' as spokesmen are over
Published Sunday, March 4, 2012, 7:25 AM
Updated Sunday, March 4, 2012, 7:25 AM
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stanJames | Mar 06, 2012, 02:49 AM EST
I might add that per pols I've seen over the last couple years, 94 to 98% of catholic women use birth control devices. the church is digging its own grave. Glory be to God that the patriarchial church is headed for oblivion.
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stanJames | Mar 06, 2012, 02:45 AM EST
CARdinal Dolan, formerly arch bishop of Milwaukee - guess what this criminal was sitting on top of, twisiting the books etc etc to avoid paying compensation to thousands of victims of the church's unmarried priests..............
Just google "8000 molestation victims - milwaukee"
this criminal should be put in jail for his part in covering up the soul murder of thousands of children by his unmarried priests.
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GLENBEIGHNATIVE | Mar 06, 2012, 12:00 AM EST
obama hates "religion" that's why he called sarah..he's worried about re-election..she thinks a catholic university should pay for her leftist belief...if you want sex..it's still free.sarah is a poster child for the left religion hating society..meanwhile the iranians want to blast us & ISRAEL off the map....maybe sarah should drive a volt ...and get a charge out of life...and where do you pay $3,000 a year for pills??? liar, liar pants on fire....
may God have mercy on her soul. I applaud Cardinal Dolan forhis standing up against the OUTRAGE against Christian churches by the president and his leftist czars and croneys.finally sarah could go to planned parenthood for free pills....or better yet ...go to confession
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merefalow | Mar 05, 2012, 05:09 PM EST
the days of fat irish bishops over,that would be nice.no sense of rhythm bish.
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ciaradexy | Mar 05, 2012, 01:06 PM EST
Falcon, your imaginary friend Jesus came to me in a dream last night. He said to tell you that youre a muppet.
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McNamara31 | Mar 05, 2012, 10:27 AM EST
falconflash Simply untrue.
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ciarajoyce | Mar 05, 2012, 09:59 AM EST
How many children does the Cardinal support out of his paycheck? And how many unwanted children has he personally adopted? When his answers to those questions tell me he actually cares about children, maybe I'll listen to him.
I was an unwanted child, but not given up for adoption. I thought everyone's parents hated them once the doors closed at dinner time. I was 16 before I learned some parents actually like their children, even the ones who live at home.
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jamieLM | Mar 05, 2012, 08:47 AM EST
@Morninghours @faberm1 - both excellent posts and very well said. Kudos to both of you.
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Pepper | Mar 05, 2012, 08:42 AM EST
Only the bishops think they are the authoritative voice. The position on contraception was originally church politics at its worst. Now it is being foisted on the U.S--nothing more than Vatican politics of the 60's. And of course it is women that will bear the brunt of this policy---nothing new there from the Catholic Church
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IrelandNorth | Mar 05, 2012, 05:34 AM EST
"... got the Irish up in me"? Is that not correlating Irishness with a White Anglo-Saxon Protestant (WASP) racist stereotying of the Irish as temperamental and antagonistic. Cardinal Dolan will have a hard time suing the "American Government" since such does not exist. One assumes he means the U.S Govt. Whilst I disagree with all Christian orthodoxy, and the oxymoronism of celibate males dic[k]tating a theoretical sexual morality to sexual praxisists, I actually agree with immaculate con[tra]ception espoused by his church, i.e. the Billing's Method of coitus interruptus. After all, you can't put rubber between yourself and life. The purest form of immaculate contraceptiuon is sexual continence, whether sexually active or not.
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Morninghours | Mar 05, 2012, 01:17 AM EST
Cardinal Dolan: Perhaps you and the bishops should spend less time worrying about what women do with their own bodies and spend more time worrying about what some of your priests are doing with little children's bodies.
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faberm1 | Mar 04, 2012, 11:15 PM EST
Let's get the facts straight. The Bible does not prohibit any sort of birth control. This is a whimsical rule made by man and man-made institutions. The Bible does however prohibit the abuse and sexual use of children and innocents. Where is the cardinal's outrage of that?
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FairWeatherGuy | Mar 04, 2012, 10:51 PM EST
If the bishops would file a lawsuit to allow Catholic employers to avoid provision of contraceptives to women, under the insurance coverage provided to their employees, maybe the bishops would win...
... of the nine justices, six are Catholic... the other three justices are Jewish... maybe five justices would vote with the bishops... I think precedence might be against that happening...
I think the bishops' argument is that "freedom of religion" should trump "freedom from religion"...
In any event, if this controversy were occurring back prior to the US Constitution, none of the current nine justices could be serving on a court in many/most of the then separate states, because Catholics, Jews, Baptists, and members of some other religions were prohibited from holding public office in many/most of the states at that time...
In those states, persons who were members of those religions could not serve in any capacity, at any level... not as a judge, not as a mayor, not as a legislator, not as a governor...
I think it is the "freedom from religion" phrase of the first amendment that brought an end to that practice... that is why members of those religions could serve in public office, once those prejudicial laws were retracted, which did finally occur by the 1830's
If I am correct... and if, today, "freedom of religion" would trump "freedom from religion", in this instance, by a vote of five justices from among the six Catholic and three Jewish supreme court justices, I can't help but think how ironic that win by the bishops would be...!
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alimah | Mar 04, 2012, 10:07 PM EST
@Irishpjk... Here's to addressing your ignorant understanding of health coverage on the matter of B/C. It is not an illness, BUT contraceptives are not only prescribed to prevent unwanted pregnancies (and abortions), but for other medical reasons such as lessening the affects of endometriosis and to control excessive bleeding during menstruation. Insurance Co's gladly provide low cost contraceptives to eliminate the high cost of covering pre-natal care over a 9 month period, costs associated with delivery, and hospital stays for mother & baby in unwanted pregnancies. Your insinuation that men are discriminated against is the height of ignorance... have you forgotten that Viagra, etc. is prescribed to men cost free and vasectomies (not an illness) are performed for men?? As far as your remarks regarding President Obama... it's obvious you're a "racist" and there is no greater "ignorance".
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