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Brave Scotland - as the Scottish prepare for their independence the make-up of Britain could shift

Will Scotland's future also affect Northern Ireland's?


What affect will Scotland's future have on Northern Ireland's?
What affect will Scotland's future have on Northern Ireland's?

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The Scottish people will vote on independence before 2014 in a deal in Edinburgh arranged by Scottish leader Alex Salmond and British Prime Minister David Cameron.

It is a brave step by the Scottish, who will have the first opportunity since 1707 to break up the union. One can imagine a few shivers down the spines of Northern Irish Unionists at this development.

During a recent visit to the U.S., Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams called for a similar referendum in Northern Ireland to what has now been agreed in Scotland. There is no reason to think it will not occur as it is written into the Good Friday Agreement.

The smart money would have been on the Irish to have the first opportunity but it has, indeed, fallen to the Scots.

It is a measure of how old friendships and alliances have fractured in this modern world.

The Scots have long felt disenfranchised from Westminster. Of the 59 Members of Parliament from Scotland, only one is from the ruling Tory Party.  The Scottish National Party is now the largest in Scotland and controls the devolved Parliament there.

Opinion polls show that only 35 percent of Scots currently want to leave the United Kingdom, but Alex Salmond has up to two years to swing the nation behind him.

The question will be a straight up or down yes or no on independence for Scotland. Given the disaffection from the London leadership it is no sure run thing for Cameron that it will fail.

Yet he knows he leads a deeply unpopular government and the chances may never be better for the Scots to strike for their own independence.

Salmond rightfully casts the referendum question as the most important facing Scotland since that 1707 decision.  Salmond said the deal paved the way for the most important political decision Scotland had made in several hundred years.

He added, "It is in that sense a historic day for Scotland and I think a major step forward in Scotland's home rule journey.

"The Edinburgh Agreement means that we will have a referendum in two years' time which will be built and made in the Scottish Parliament on behalf of the Scottish people. I think that is a substantial and important step forward.

“I believe we will win it by setting out a positive vision for a better future for our country, both economically and, crucially, also socially.

"It is that vision of a prosperous and compassionate society, a confident society moving forward in Scotland, which will carry the day."

Interestingly, some of the people he will have to convince the most are Scottish Catholics who have long feared a sectarian Scottish leadership, not unlike the Northern Irish Unionists of old.

Scottish Catholics tend to vote for the Labor Party and to favor the tie with England as a result. They are not supporters of the local Conservatives, however, whose full name is the Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party.

The Scottish decision adds an intriguing new possibility to the future make up of the British island. If Scotland votes to part ways the United Kingdom will be no more and the Queen’s writ will no longer run north of the border.


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Seano - So no evidence on removal of Irish Linen mills then???
Cat got your tongue Dano or !!!
Curtis can’t get his head around the concept of an Irish Catholic middle class in the 1840’s and 1850’s…so who does he think funded the massive church and cathedral building programme?
Just to take you up to speed dano moron I was referring to the Allman COTTON MILL IN Cork because TARIFFS WERE LIFTED. Do your home work Dano instead of wallowing in blind pettiness.
The standard of living for the indigenous Irish was better during the stone age than under the penal rule of the british terror state.
I do know the difference between flax and cotton read the article correctly moron.
You’re all over the place with your arguments again, Seano…you ludicrously claim that linen mills were ‘removed to England’ when they expanded hugely…now you’re rambling on about a shortage of cotton…here’s some news; Linen production requires Flax NOT cotton…and the figures prove that linen production grew over the first 100 years of the union…try engaging that thing between your lugs next time, before writing more nonsense…
The removal of tariffs and the demise of the Irish pound(in circulation since 1180)saw a influx of cheap English goods saw the end of Irish manufacturing. Ireland became an exporter of cheap raw materials for England.This union coupled with a deliberate mass starvation devastated Ireland and took over 100 years to recover. "Fashion saw the demise of mills" what a load of poppycock. The US civil war was the catalyst ending cotton production as no raw material was unavailable.
You're confusing facts with opinions...again.
Whatever lies help you sleep at night, Dano.
Reassuring to see how 'switched on' CJ and Seano are though...not at all by the looks of things...
Sorry misread scotsman for scotchman.
What person of Scottish descent refers to themselves as a "scotsman?" - A british troll, that who. The timeframe for the breakup of this proto-bolshevist "britain" monstrosity has unfortunatey been moved back by the recent economic turmoil. Hopefully, it's back in the ascendent soon - consider how much progress has been made over the last several decades in eroding the british terror state and the phony british identity/ethnicity.
I only read the first page and could not believe the rubbish i read. Firstly Gerry Adams the disgraced leader of Sinn Fein who tried to cover up his brothers abuse of his daughter in case it damaged his party. The same party that came 7th when they contested local elections in the ROI. You have to ask though why any one in Ulster would want to join the ROI and their redundant "celtic tiger economy" given the fact that the country is in debt to LLoyds bank to the tune of 7 billion pounds sterling (that kind of makes them England bitch by the way) . As for Alex Salmond. As a scotsman i look on this free loading cretin in total disbelief. Seems he enjoyed a 5 night stay at the rider cup in a 5 star 2500 a night per head with his wife while the rest of the country wallows in the current economic downturn. Had a right laugh at his tartan trousers too! As the article says he only has 35% backing. but rather romantically it also suggests without any foundation that Alex muster more support over the next two years. I can assure you that he wont. His credibility wanes by the hour over here. His lies that he had saught legal council over EU membership have crippled him beyond repair.
More rubbish from Seano on the history of the linen industry - In 1850 there were 62 mills in Ulster, employing 19,000 workers - 1871, 78 mills employing 43,000 workers - 1921 over 70,000 workers…it was changing fashions that ended mass linen manufacture, NOT THE UNION




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