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Bloomberg’s Irish insult -- harmless or damaging?

We asked the Irish in New York for their opinion


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When Mayor Michael Bloomberg began his off-the-cuff speech to the hundred or so gathered at the American Irish Historical Society for the launch of a book about the St. Patrick's Day Parade on Wednesday night, the atmosphere was jovial.

But a few sentences in, the crowd’s mood changed with his utterance of an Irish stereotype, that he would later publicly apologize for.

Speaking about the Society’s building on 80th and Fifth, which was the venue for the event, the New York mayor said he lived close by and that “before I came here, normally when I walk by this building, there are a bunch of people that are totally inebriated hanging out the windows and waving.”

“I know, that’s a stereotype of the Irish, but nevertheless. We Jews from around the corner think this," he continued much to the audience’s dismay.

News of the Mayors slur spread quickly after it was first reported by IrishCentral. Yesterday, it was the main story in the two new York tabloids, the Post and The News as well as the lead in the New York Times Metro section.

For many, the Mayor’s comments came as a shock due to the close ties that he has cultivated with the Irish American community.

“In a city where stereotypes go out the window and diversity is embraced, it is shameful and inappropriate for the Mayor to reinforce a stereotype that Irish people have been trying to shake off for decades,” Amy Feran, a New York resident originally from Co. Louth, told IrishCentral.

“I think people reacted rightly, we need people to speak up against these kind of slurs, which further perpetuate negative views of Irish people,” she added.

However, for others the widespread media coverage and airtime that the story was awarded was too much.

“It was a frivolous comment playing on the Irish stereotype, there was no malice as far as I can see,” says John McKeown, a Dublin filmmaker on vacation here in New York.

“I know politicians have to be careful, so if people are offended, that’s legitimate but that’s just politics and communications these days, they’re all trained to be as bland and insipid as possible so as not to at all offend.

“However there was nothing innately malevolent in what he said. Print media is dying... so news doesn’t sell papers any more, "controversy" does," McKeown added.

Despite the mixed reactions to his comment, the Mayor was quick to formally apologize.

“I apologize. I certainly did not mean to offend anybody,” he said in a statement issued on Thursday.

Was the apology necessary? Meabh McDaid, a bartender living in the Bronx thinks the damage was already done.

“I don’t think the apology really made a difference, the man still said what he did,” she told Irish Central.

“I was reading about in the paper, and I really think the man meant no harm. I think a lot of Irish over here would laugh it off; after all Irish people have given that impression to people when it comes to drinking," McDaid admits.


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How about I used to walk past this black neighborhood and they were all sitting around eating watermelon and drinking wine in paper bags? Or this Italian neighborhood and they were booking bets and strong arming the businesses or Wall Street where the Jews were..........All of these things happen. That's where stereotypes come from but it does not apply to the preponderance of the people. The Irish are far beyond this petty bullshit. We are among the most literate and educated nationalities in America. Go to any book store and read the names of the authors and you will find an amazing number of Irish names. We are past this stupid stereotyping it is too bad Bloomberg is not or maybe he just had a little nip of Mogen David before he spoke.
The nyc Jews case out Ronan tynan to boston ! The mayor should join him in his native state. Lets see how long he would last up there? This mayor Sucks ! WE JEWS AND DON'T YOU FORGET IT ! WE JEWS !
I think our esteemed Mayor may have been "tipping the glass" before his speech, bless him. He is a friend of Ireland, so give him a break. He tried to tell a joke, it did not work, so what? Slainte agus l'chaim go leir.
realist: You are way off base there. Victiemhood, and Irish?? The number one cardinal rule Irish, or Irish American, is never ever talk about it period. If they were such victims, the Irish never would have survived,and the Irish-Americans never would have made it as far as they have in the U.S. Try again.
In any event, this was blown out of proportion although it certainly would have been taken much more seriously had it been directed against another ethnic group.
No where on earth can compare to britain in terms of social degeneracy (ask any country unfortunate enough to host them to a sporting event). The ones in denial are british apologists who cannot come to terms with the worldwide terror and nation mugging of their whitehall contrived monstrosity. Anyone who invokes terror state culpability through indisputable historical facts is accused of "victimhood." That fat alcoholic terrorist Churchill no doubt believed the people of Dresden should not have been offended by the terror bombing he endorsed there (or the "uncivilized tribes" he advocated using poison gas against). The ones obsessed on here (as well as most of cyberspace) are british trolls who frequent Irish cites on a daily basis. These insipid creatures typically have failed lives in the anglo-sphere and need to somehow attempt to compensate.
When irish eyes are smiling, sure it's like a morn in spring, oh how I remember how our eyes twinkled, twas the tears running from laughter, when the americans came over to see our quaint thatched cottages and our green fields. Yes we laughed, the big hat, the big belly, the big mouth, and an even bigger credit card. Put that in yer pipe and smoke it. Or does it hurt a little?
Ulysses you gotta be kidding, Bloomberg is ALL for the Jews, but just the ones who can help HIM...under 100,000 grand a year an to him your not a jew...but he'll jump to help Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf..a man TIED to the Terriosts..money talks with him..how do you think he was allowed to even RUN for mayor again AND win !!!
I think Bloomberg is nothing but a typical dirty sterotyping jew...he's the same as Mel Gibson...what would happen if he offended the BLACK race, or HISPANIC race, or EVEN the terriost Muslim race...not to even say his type. Disgusting to constantly hear people putting us Irish down.
Realits: Wow... you've been quoting Culture Club???? Great reference... i guess
What is your interest here? I You haven't answered any questions or revelations I've put forward... so either you are not interested in my comments and are just sitting next to your computer with a pathetic grin waiting to bait people and put them down via comments.... I like your dedication to this site and the comment section! Thanks So Much! It's fun... but you are so boring with the comments... no real offense. Keep your comments coming... but remember the most important part of an argument is to make a point. Your only point so far is that Irish Americans are heavy handed on victimhood.... Shall I write a dissertation to refute this ridiculous claim? Please answer all the other things I have asked and commented on...
JimmyJK: Of course you can "feel the hate" in my comments because, like all recreational victims, you seek to be offended. Lol.."....our past and current sufferings...." Ronald Reagan (former "Irish American" president), "there you go again". However, you're right on one point, this is not just about one comment made by Mayor Bloomberg - it's about the "Irish American" victimhood addiction. As for 'Pancake-gate" at Denny's last year - nothing short of pathetic. Those who could be bothered to notice (precious few I might add), were rolling their eyes as "Irish America" spoke out about yet another infamous slight.
Realist: Why are you on this blog? I can feel the hate in your comments... but what is it you would like Irish and Irish Americans to be? The issue is not this one comment but rather a trend in recent years to take the Irish Americans for granted.... our past and current sufferings are just fine to make fun of and exploit. " Hey let's have old navy make t-shirts for people extolling the trait that all Irish like to get drunk. ( This is a Real Story) That is not acceptable to me... OR Denny's restaurant encouraging people to stuff their faces full of pancakes to celebrate the famine.... ( This is another Real Story) This is not about this one comment by mayor bloomberg but rather a trend to disrespect a people and yes the Irish and Irish Americans are a people and a community... some communities are stronger than others but we are a community. Much of our community is a member of former member of the Catholic Church.... I do not believe you can go much longer than a few weeks until some commentator or comedian will bash the Catholic Church.... and rightfully so in many instances but not in ALL instances... Realist: There are 7 million Irish in Ireland and 5 times that in the United States alone... Winston Churchhill - "We have always found the Irish a bit odd. They refuse to be English."
JimmyJK: "The Irish are unprone to victimhood they refuse to talk about horrors that they have experienced, encountered and witnessed until after years and years of repression"? In the words of a famous "Irish American" from the World of tennis, "you cannot be serious". This very site is little more than a shop window for the very sentiment you seek to deny. Moreover, scarcely a week goes by without some 'story' referencing the famine or past/current injustices inflicted on the Irish by someone or other (usually the British). For some Irish (usually the "Irish American" i.e. surrogate/pretend variety) this is an addiction - and, like most addicts, they are steeped in denial. To paraphrase Winston Churchill - never in the field of human sensibilities have so many been offended by so little.
Right on McNabb, wonder what Realist would make of this statement, "The mayor was wrong it happened to be a bunch of Jews hanging out the windows drunk and the blacks were so drunk they were falling out the door" In reality I would never make jokes about a jewish person or a black person, any nationality. I have noticed though a lot of bigotry from so called americans towards the irish.




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