Ireland's papal nuncio calls for ‘authentic’ Catholicism for the future

Dean J – yes, of course I know about Golitsyn. He was a famous capture for America. Or was he??? No one trusts a word out of the mouth of a political turncoat like this good oul’ Golly. You shouldn’t either. None of yr posts relating to or quoting Golly bears any substance in relation to authentic Catholicism. My story of the power of the Holy Rosary to demolish Communism does. Are you afraid of its power? None of the lip-service, forced to kow-tow to Communism, dockers of Gdansk was. Neither should you, as an authentic but misguided Christian.

(…more for Dean J) (my 9th attempt to post this! - so pardon the time lapse in replying if it gets online) The President of Russia today, Mr. Putin, is a practicing Christian. Though Communism still exists in Russia as part of its new-found democracy, and elsewhere, it has none of the power it once had. It is a failed concept, destroyed by the power of prayer while holding simple Rosary Beads. Dean J, perhaps tonight, when you go to bed, you might pray a decade of the Rosary and sleep peacefully in thanks to Our Lady of the Rosary that there is no Red under your bed, or any Vatican bed.

Why are my final two posts to Dean Jackson not getting through?? Can ICentral sack its Gremlins or at least send them out to lunch??

(…more for Dean J) Well, the final collapse of Communism happened after Pope John Paul II, a Pole like Walesa and a Pope who placed his Papacy under the guidance of Our Lady of the Rosary (he visited and prayed at many Marian Shrines, including Knock in Ireland), wrote a one-page letter that was hand-delivered to Russian President Gorbachev saying that if he (Gorby) didn’t pull back the tanks, he (JP II) would abdicate his papal position and go and stand at the barricades with his people. Gorby read the letter, realised the huge import of it (reportedly his face went pale at the implications: masses of Catholics from all around the world would join JP II at the Polish barricades), picked up his phone and ordered the tanks back to base immediately. The rest is history – perestroika, glasnost and the open re-emergence of the Christian Russian Orthodox Church in Russian peoples’ lives. (…more..)

(Whoops! My post didn’t get to preview stage… More gremlins in ICentral?? 2nd attempt, here’s hoping…) Ah Dean J, you’re now showing yourself up as a “Reds under the bed” paranoiac. Communism collapsed through the power of prayer of the Rosary, as asked for by Our Lady back in 1917 and honoured throughout the world by Catholics throughout the decades of intense Communism (I remember praying for the end of Communism with my father and mother too as part of our family Rosary). One hugely noticeable thing about the Solidarity movement in Poland which led to the collapse of Communism was the constant presence of Rosary Beads in the hands of Lech Walesa and his fellow Dockers in Gdansk during their protests. Walesa knew he had real power in the Rosary Beads in his hands throughout the whole episode and never let go of them. One other thing – you might remember that the Communist Russians rolled hundreds of armoured tanks up to their border with Poland, threatening to invade Poland to put down the Solidarity movement? Well… (More…)

Yes Dean, I see you are taken by the many conspiracy theories regarding who is in charge at the Vatican, particularly since the time of Pope Paul VI who is alleged to have been kidnapped and hidden away while a lookalike imposter took his place in public (photos for comparison available online; bing or google ). But there are many good and true people living in the Vatican State who would know what’s going on, including its Head of Security, Davide Giulietti, its Swiss Guards and America’s CIA/FBI who train the Vatican’s security personnel. It is after all a very tiny place, smaller than many parishes (population less than 1000), where everybody knows everybody else. There’s freedom of movement in and out of Vatican City - there would certainly be people who’d “come out” and tell the world of what’s happening in the City if there were Communists in charge. Communist infiltration is a not a new thing: the governments of the USA, UK, France, Germany and many others were all infiltrated by Communists. However, there are people in the Vatican who acknowledge that Satan has invaded the sanctity of the Papal state and yes, I believe that too (read up on the “Smoke of Satan”). I watched a BBC TV programme last year - “Vatican – the Hidden World” - giving a fascinating insight of the Vatican, including sight of the now glass-encased bones of St. Peter. I was struck by just how ordinary the people of the Vatican State are, except that they are doing extraordinary things and very authentic Catholics.

(More…) If the Dean, or any readers of this post haven’t read Lúcia’s book, you can visit your local library or order it online at Amazon or, if you’re in Ireland, you can buy it in your local Veritas or Eason’s bookstore. It’s a truly fascinating read. When you’re done with reading it, pass it on to someone else; it’s just too fascinating to deny others the read. Like the Dean, I have my own reservations about the 3rd secret of Fatima as revealed by the Vatican apparatus' modus operandii and I really don’t believe that the attempted assassination of Pope John Paul II was its fulfilment. I think there is more to come, something really terrible, even for non-believers and Catholic-bashers to comprehend its happening.

jacersagain, small need to seek Absolution, is there, for 'damnable' "coitus interruptus"?...the Church has prescribed, as far as I know, "c.i." (not IC) as a "natural" form of birth control, in compliance with the approved rythm method...A strict life issue advocate, however, may surface to advise you of more appropriate duties ref. Penance...continued official denial of the birth control pill, though (in contrast to behavior,) is bewildering to me

Dean Jackson’s post at 07.06am Aug 25th interested me greatly. Most times I enjoy and respect the Dean’s posts, they’re usually good and Christian but never really hit the hotspot (that’s alright, I rarely do as well, but, like him, I try to). I’ve been to Fatima, not as a pilgrim but as a tourist (although I happened upon a pilgrimage taking place while there, and slipped into the big crowd to join part of the beautiful ceremonies) and visited the various places around Fatima which are all recorded in the book “Fatima in Lúcia’s Own Words”. While there, I was amazed that being at the site of the Apparitions of Our Lady didn’t affect me as much as I was affected at being at the site of the water well where the Angel of God first spoke to the children of Fatima – Lúcia and her cousins Jacinta and Francisco – telling them essentially to expect “things are gnna happen”, as they surely did and historically recorded. Since then, to this day I’ve pondered and wondered over that extraordinary feeling at the well; I drank of its water and poured some over my head and still have not found an answer as to the why I spontaneously did that, or why it happened. I’ll always especially remember how, when we queuing tourists went into the house in which Lúcia and her family lived, her Gran-Aunt, black-clad and sitting at the door to welcome all into the house, how she smiled in greeting everybody in front of me and yet, when my turn came to stand in front of her and our eyes met, she actually stopped smiling and bowed her head down (me shuddering at the memory right now – did Lúcia’s Gran-aunt she see that I may be damned to hell? What am I??). (More on Dean J’s post)

In the case of the Fitzgeralds, defending " 'authentic' Catholicism for the future," who twice turned down royal pardons rather than surrender the Papal Nuncio, the confiscation of their lands, and its resultant societal collateral, has never been offset by the return of sizable Irish lands.

(…more) So, after reading your post of 7.11am, I decided to ‘Bing’ if the Bible had references to birth control on which His Holiness Pope Paul VI might have based his decree (I really don’t know if he did use the Bible, or Tradition, or both or if he relied on advices of the learned theologians involved in VC II for his decision). To my surprise, I actually found a few references in our Bible - referring to verses in Genesis, Acts and Revelations which space in this post doesn’t allow me to expand on but anyone can Bing or Google for the info. One which jumped out at me was reference to “pharmakeia”, a potion-making practice prior to and during the 1st Century AD and later which aimed to stop or prevent pregnancy. Finding out that one “damned” method of preventing pregnancy which shocked me personally was that withdrawal by a man during coitus constituted a form of artificial birth control… I used to do that regularly w/ my late wife – arrgh! I didn’t know that withdrawal to prevent impregnation was a sin, so now I find I have the husband-long stain of this sin on my soul; a sinner I shure am and now must confess it next time I seek the Sacrament of Penance.

Hear, Hear, eiriamach!--- and Amen to acts of charity, listening to the Spirit, albeit the "mission" emphasis...It is not clear A/B Brown's homily to "authenticity" stretches across the gulf between the present centralization of power and the participation, and Spirit, of the Vatican Council era...an apostolic, inclusive Church (but not necessarily a gay et al. invasion of an Irish society) does not necessarily translate into hardened positions on "life issues" not even contemplated in the NT, apostolic, era!...if this displays, McNamara31,"The age old IC blogger software problem" should be resolved...on eiriamach's further comment ref. women celebrants and priests, LOL...even if (we can wish,no?)the conservative tack and centralization of Vatican power were to be reversed, into liberalization and decentralization, there would not be gender capitulation in the Church...nor gender indifference...why?...The Church seems to be committed to self-destructively fracturing over the "life issues" of birth control (a non-issue in Christ's time), for which there are NO NT references!!!...thereby, allowing a breadth of interpretations on all kinds of modern issues(heart-lung interventions, Petri dishes, etc.) not anticipated in NT Judea...yet the institutional Church, with a hard core of conservative faithful has "dug in" on the life issues-without NT references...on the other hand, apostolic celebrants, however, will bring up hosts of NT references, and any discussion of gender expansion will only be yet another distracting, fracturing issue.

eiriamach @ 7.11am, I’m sorry if my post at 7.50pm 24th instant appeared to suggest that birth control, abortion and euthanasia were mentioned in the Bible; that was not my intention. However, the teachings of the RCC, the Protestant Churches, the Eastern Orthodox Churches and the Coptic Churches among other Christian churches are all based on the Bible and on Tradition. I am not fully au-fait with Vatican Council II (VC II), never studied it or its aftermath since I am just an ordinary bloke. VC II happened while I was a slip of a lad busy playing football and hurling or chasing girls but I do remember the horrified feelings that followed in Ireland and throughout the lay membership of the world-wide Catholic Church when Pope Paul VI decreed that artificial birth control was sinful and not to be used by Catholics (in fact, most Protestant Churches also agreed with that at the time; most still do). (More…)

Happyhippo – we have an expression in Ireland for people like you. You are “bollicks’d”. You are so blindly unaware of the authentic retribution that the Catholic Church, as a whole, has been designating for the sins of the few that tainted the whole Catholic Church’s mission of Christ. On the topic of compassion for the abused, have you checked out the real compassion that the Church has shown to abused people? No, you didn’t. Do.

Yea right got ya, how about if the Catholic church showed some authentically genuine compassion to the victims of sexual abuse,they are still trying to cover their tracks in the Vatican, as if the abused were the cause of their own misfortune.