'Say nothing' culture makes Ireland an Islamic extremists' safe haven
By: The Yank | Published Thursday, June 17, 2010, 6:52 PM | Updated Friday, September 9, 2011, 9:40 PM
Ireland is a hotbed of Islamic extremism. Shocking, right? Of course it is. However, that's the view of Imam Ali Al-Saleh, who is the head of
Ireland's biggest Mosque, the Islamic Cultural Centre in
Dublin {photo}.
Speaking to the Sunday Tribune newspaper Al-Saleh said many of the extremists came to Ireland as asylum seekers and now their children are becoming adults, taking over university societies, brainwashing other students. These "indigenous" extremists are being bolstered by students from the
Middle East.
This may explain why American Jamie Paulin-Ramirez came to Ireland after
she told Colleen LaRose (aka Jihad Jane) in an e-mail that she would like to join her in
Europe at a place that would be both a jihadist "training camp" and home. As Al-Saleh puts it, Ireland is an extremist "safe haven" and an
al Qaeda "base."
Yet, unlike
France,
Britain,
Holland and other European countries, Ireland does not have a large Muslim population. Ireland has no colonial legacy among the Islamic nations - there is no Irish equivalent to
Algeria, Pakistan,
Indonesia or any ex-colony among the Muslim nations.
There are only 30, 000 or so Muslims in Ireland (approx .75% of the population) and no areas where they live in large numbers. There is no Irish equivalent to
Marseilles,
Bradford or
Detroit. Muslims are, as Al-Saleh says, "an integrated part of Irish society."
There are no Muslim neighborhoods teeming with loads of innocent Muslims just trying to fit in and get by, amongst whom extremists can hide, using the innocent mass of Muslims as a shield. So where are Ireland's Islamic extremists hiding? In plain sight, it seems.
This is why I think
Jamie Paulin-Ramirez's marriage is so important to the story. True or not, I can easily see a situation where a public official might bend the rules to suit a Muslim, immigrant couple because we 'mustn't judge' and 'we must accommodate them' are two overriding themes when it comes to Ireland's treatment of immigrants.
Irish people are actually very reticent when it comes to criticizing people, despite the "fighting Irish" stereotype. Most Irish people wouldn't complain in a restaurant even if there was a worm in their soup.
This reticence combined with a relentless, dogmatic campaign promoting multiculturalism has the effect of muting criticism and thwarting questioning. Most Irish people would be very reluctant to say anything even if they heard a 6 year old boy recently arrived from
America saying "all Christians will burn in hellfire," as Paulin-Ramirez's son
said to his grandmother, Christine Holcomb-Mott {photo}.
Paulin-Ramirez's brother Mike described her son's school in Ireland as "
a radical Muslim school." He made that assessment from 4,000 miles away.
I would bet there are plenty of people in
Waterford who feel the same way about the school attended by little Christian, now Walid, but who would be very wary of saying anything publicly. This is the culture, the atmosphere, the society in which the radical Muslims are thriving.
Al-Saleh cannot be the only one. The Christian majority have to join him in condemning this sort of thing. Otherwise we risk becoming al Qaeda's European headquarters, a place where silence abets Islamic terrorism.
Ireland is a hotbed of Islamic extremism. Shocking, right? Of course it is. However, that's the view of Imam Ali Al-Saleh, who is the head of Ireland's biggest Mosque, the Islamic Cultural Centre in Dublin {photo}.
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Switch to the desktop site to post a comment.michaelcollins | Jul 27, 2010, 11:50 AM EDT
what are people worried about????? muslims will never take over this land...i know for a fact that if one bomb went off on irish soil the IRA will wipe the islamic extremists out over night....the guards and army intelligence are not the only ones watching them
IrishAndProud | May 19, 2010, 01:25 AM EDT
manofaran, you just might notice (that is, if you actually bothered to read my posts and not just 'skim' them) that I said 'Muslim POPULATIONS,' and not 'all muslims.' A small number of Muslims will inevitably fall away from Islam (this happens everywhere, with every faith when it arrives in a foreign land), but the observant ones still have far higher immigration and birth rates than the natives, vastly making up for those who fall away. Islam is a cancer.
McNabb1966 | May 18, 2010, 09:41 PM EDT
@manofaran... "sounds like alot of scared white people out there. lol"...No, not really. The fact of the matter is that a girl like the new Miss USA is much more frightening to a wide array of Muslims in the world than to "white people." I'd say it's the folks who would rather put her in a burka who are "scared."
manofaran | May 17, 2010, 07:56 PM EDT
As for never assimilating, Miss Usa Arab, muslim americian. There you go lads, she's a hottie too.
manofaran | May 17, 2010, 07:29 PM EDT
Sounds like alot of scared white people out there. lol.
Liamkeyes | May 17, 2010, 01:12 PM EDT
They have large Families, They stick together, stay out of the pubs, save their money, buy property and before you know it, they will have representation in the Dail as Education is another requisite with them
maloney | May 16, 2010, 10:26 PM EDT
bigfistedmick--more like thick headed mick. You sound like an obama fan
maloney | May 16, 2010, 10:20 PM EDT
Hey yank. Those good muslims that are going to root out the bad terrorists. Not happening in england, the USA or anywhere else. Catch the ball.
IrishAndProud | May 16, 2010, 08:27 PM EDT
(continued) Do you want Ireland to end up like Britain, just across the water from you there, Yank? How about the Netherlands...have you seen THEM, lately? Tell me, what is going to stop Ireland from ending up like them? What's eventually to stop it from having a Muslim majority? How much cancer is 'okay' to have? Islamic populations in Western nations NEVER shrink, and NEVER assimilate.
IrishAndProud | May 16, 2010, 08:24 PM EDT
Yank, how 'big' does a Muslim populace in Ireland need to grow before it STARTS becoming an 'issue?' Do you have a particular size, in mind? Do you have an exact number? I hope so...because the Muslims in Eire aren't going to just magically stop growing, and their birth rates alone are FAR higher than the Irish birth rate. Simple MATHEMATICS should be ringing your alarm bells, Yank...and if they're not, then you are part and parcel of the apathetic passivity your own article addresses.
miltonedunn | May 16, 2010, 10:19 AM EDT
At this time it seems if only the Aussies have the real way to controll a country.Live heer be happy and have only this country in your heart.
TheYank | May 16, 2010, 02:07 AM EDT
Truth is, I agree more with BigFistedMick, than the rest of you guys. I don't see Ireland's small Muslim population as an issue at all. What's an issue is how the small, but extremist wing of Islam can establish a base in Ireland.
Those Muslims who are integrated (or integrating) in Irish society need the rest of us to help them root out this element. That's what Ali Al-Saleh is basically asking for when he was interviewed by the Sunday Tribune.
IrishAndProud | May 16, 2010, 01:12 AM EDT
Uh, Mick...if militant Muslims are taking advantage of Ireland's stupid passivity and promoting more of their inherently NON-Irish culture, that is not a good thing. I have NEVER seen or even HEARD of a Muslim assimilating into a non-Muslim culture, which both Ireland and the USA are. Rather, they not only do not (and cannot) assimilate but they demand their host country conform to THEM. Exactly how is that good?
BigFistedMick | May 16, 2010, 12:08 AM EDT
OK... The source of the article is not from you personally, but the comments below had me fuming! I have lived abroad and worked with people of all nationalities while in Canada. Some, who were also Muslim, who have family in Ireland. And look to Ireland with fondness. It is wrong to label EVERYONE with the same stick. It is just ignorance!
BigFistedMick | May 15, 2010, 11:43 PM EDT
I have rarely encountered such ignorant ill-informed spittle. Both your article and the comments below are the sort of self-aggrandizing hate-mongering that festers from the pseudo journalism that riddles the internet like cancer. It is an absolute shame that such ignorance is given any voice.
teddybear | May 15, 2010, 06:23 PM EDT
Please, Please don't let them do this to Ireland.
mandokeith | May 15, 2010, 04:35 PM EDT
makes me so mad I cannot even spell right....!!
mandokeith | May 15, 2010, 04:34 PM EDT
Shame people SHAME! Look at America and all the muslems that inhabit her while bombing her. Ireland fought for independance from the Brits and the lets the muslems move in and corrupt the country? What a shame! This is not Mecca, throw them out. Take your rug and go! Irish culture ONLY!!
jakeleg | May 15, 2010, 01:31 PM EDT
makes me mad as hell.. What's wrong with america and ireland leting these people take over are country.and plotting to hurt us behind our backs
IrishAndProud | May 15, 2010, 04:36 AM EDT
'Multiculturalism' is the absolute and utter DEATH of any nation that tolerates it, because in the name of 'tolerating' others, it inevitably tolerates cultures that destroy it. 'Multiculturalism' is self-eating. It is stupid, suicidal NONSENSE, and my bretheren in Ireland need to be shaken, rattled and rolled out of it. They need to be SLAPPED awake and kicked in the butt, before it's too late.
IrishAndProud | May 15, 2010, 04:31 AM EDT
Some of them may have been BORN in Ireland, Yank...but that doesn't make them Irish. They're still just as foreign, alien and non-Irish as their parents were. Islam itself is utterly incompatible with Irish identity and culture, and has no business whatsoever ANYWHERE on Irish soil. The fact that they are not only there, but that the Irish people themselves are so ho-hum about it is utterly tragic. The Irish in Ireland who are apathetic about this are, quite frankly, self-destructing buffoons.