Why McGuinness shouldn’t be President
By: John Spain | Published Tuesday, November 1, 2011, 7:10 PM | Updated Tuesday, November 1, 2011, 7:10 PM
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| Martin McGuinness |
As predicted in this column last week, the entrance of Martin McGuinness into the Irish presidential race has electrified what had been an extremely dull election here. It has launched a bitter debate not just about McGuinness's suitability as a president, but about the bloody IRA campaign which he led for so long.
Even though it was never concluded or resolved at the time, most people had thought that the debate about the IRA was over, that it had ended with the IRA campaign.
For the sake of peace most people had been happy to let it go, to let the issues involved around the IRA/Sinn Fein double act wither away over time. For the sake of peace, it seemed better to swallow hard and say nothing as former IRA men morphed into Sinn Fein politicians who suddenly believed in democracy.
In the south, it was never a big deal because Sinn Fein was a fringe party and likely to remain so. But it turns out that this debate is not over.
The entry of McGuinness into the presidential election has opened up the argument again. It's back with a vengeance now because it has an immediate relevance for people here.
This time the issue cannot be ignored or forgotten or swept under the carpet or left to history. This time, because of the presidential vote in a few weeks, people in the south have to decide where they stand on the claimed legitimacy of the IRA's so-called "war.”
If it wasn't legitimate, it was criminal. We know McGuinness was deeply involved.
So depending on your view, that may mean McGuinness was involved in criminality and that would make him an unacceptable candidate for the presidency.
Even though it's just begun, the debate already has brought to the surface again some cases of extreme IRA violence that McGuinness was either involved in or responsible for as an IRA leader. With over four weeks of the election to go we can expect that more of these cases will be resurrected.
Some of them are so appalling and so hard to justify on any level -- we will mention just a couple of them later -- that one would think they would automatically preclude anyone involved from becoming president.
But this debate is not just about McGuinness's personal record. His own record is not the only reason why he should not be president.
The wider and more important reason is that electing him president would confer a retrospective legitimacy on the entire IRA campaign. And that is what this is about. That is the main reason Sinn Fein wants to get him elected as president.
It's not about giving McGuinness a happy retirement in the splendor of the Aras (on the average industrial wage, of course!) It's about parading the former IRA leader at home and abroad as the face of a new republican Ireland, comfortable with its bloody recent past.
Another factor in the Sinn Fein planning is that the president we elect this time will be in office in 2016 when the centenary of the 1916 Rising takes place. Think about that.
A Sinn Fein president fronting the national commemoration ceremonies would give a visual reality to the direct link that Sinn Fein and the IRA claim to the men of 1916. It would be a massive publicity boost for them and give a new context of legitimacy to the campaign of murder and mayhem they waged over the 30 years of the Troubles.
Overtaking Fianna Fail as the party of constitutional republicanism in the south, just as it has taken the place of the SDLP in the North, has been an ambition of Sinn Fein for the past few years. It used to be a pipe dream.
But the collapse of Fianna Fail in the election earlier this year has presented Sinn Fein with a golden opportunity to make the dream a reality. An election of a Sinn Fein president this year would make it easier for a lot of people to vote for Sinn Fein candidates in the next general election in a few years.
The opportunity to eclipse Fianna Fail and become the main opposition party has been enhanced by Fianna Fail's shortsighted decision not to run a candidate for the presidency this time. They say they need time to rebuild the party.
But with Sinn Fein looming, this is a strategy that makes turkeys voting for Christmas look intelligent. With the present government faced with three years of painful cutbacks ahead, people will be fed up and looking for alternatives by the time the next general election comes. It could be Sinn Fein's big chance.
The election of a Sinn Fein president this year is part of this long-term strategy, a plan the party has been working on for some time. They want to be in government north and south of the border, which they believe will make their ultimate aim of reunification easier to achieve. And when that comes about the Unionists will just have to accept the situation!
The problem with all this, of course, is Sinn Fein's selective approach to democratic legitimacy, as we have seen in the recent past, not just in the north but in the south as well. This has allowed them to refuse to acknowledge the state, the courts and the law in the south.
It has allowed them to murder Gardai (police) and ordinary citizens, to rob banks, import weapons and explosives and intimidate anyone (including juries) who may get in their way.
Their certainty not only of the legitimacy of their cause but of its supremacy over the requirements of our democracy makes them different than other political parties here.
They claim to have changed and to now fully accept and support the southern state.
But for many people here it's much too early to judge whether this is true or not. There needs to be a much longer period of probation. That is the background to what's going on behind the headlines.
But it is McGuinness's personal record which has been making the headlines over the past week. Back in the late 1990s McGuinness told the Saville Inquiry into Bloody Sunday that he had left the IRA in the early 1970s.
Nobody -- including himself -- believes this. Certainly the British government did not believe it, since they continued to talk to him whenever they wanted to negotiate with the IRA. And the Gardai in the south believe that he continued to be one of the top IRA leaders from the 1970s to the 1990s.
His IRA career is so well documented that it's not necessary for me to go through it here again. From his time as a teenage butcher boy (!) in Derry who joined the IRA, quickly rising to take command of the IRA in the city, on to being head of the Northern Command, chief of staff and chairman of the Army Council.
Some of the most infamous IRA actions took place on his watch -- Mountbatten, Warrenpoint, Enniskillen, to name just three -- at a time when he led the Northern Command or held an even more senior position.
One of the early ones I remember was the Kingsmill massacre in Co. Armagh in 1976 when the IRA stopped a bus, took everyone off, separated the Protestants and executed 10 of them.
But it is some of the lesser-known or forgotten individual atrocities that McGuinness was responsible for that have been brought up again in the media here in the past week to illustrate the ruthless cruelty with which he operated, a far cry from his recent Chuckle Brothers act.
There was the invention by the IRA under McGuinness's leadership of the "proxy bomb,” long before the Islamist suicide bombers thought of it (at least they blow themselves up, the IRA forced other people to do it).
In particular, there was the case of a Catholic man called Patsy Gillespie who worked in a British Army canteen and therefore was deemed to be a "collaborator" (not just a family man who badly needed a job). The IRA held his family hostage while they strapped him to the driver's seat of a van with a 1,000 pound bomb and ordered him to drive the van up to an army checkpoint. They then detonated it by remote control, killing him and several soldiers.
Or there was the case of IRA man Frank Hegarty, who had betrayed the location of an IRA arms dump to the British Army. He fled to England and was in hiding but wanted to come home.
McGuinness visited his mother several times, telling her Frank needed to return to straighten things out and that he would be okay. When he did come back the IRA kidnapped and murdered him. Mrs. Hegarty never forgave herself for being fooled by McGuinness into luring her son back, and years later when she took part in a TV program telling the story she was still blaming herself.
These and some of the accounts of McGuinness's actions in his earlier days in Derry -- tarring and feathering locals or doing punishment shootings to enforce his rule -- show a cold ruthlessness from the very beginning. He was uncompromising and vicious, quickly moving on from attacking British soldiers in Derry to assassinating Catholics who were in the RUC.
One story about him that I had forgotten resurfaced in the Irish Independent last weekend, and it's worth relaying because it typifies the absolute ruthlessness with which he operated. This happened in April of 1982 when McGuinness was chief of staff of the IRA but still intimately involved in what the IRA was doing in Derry.
In 1982 Joanne Mathers, 29, a mother of a young son, was doing a part time job collecting census forms on a housing estate in Derry. The IRA had ordered people in Derry to boycott the census.
Joanne, a Protestant originally from Donegal who had a degree in town planning from Queen's University, was helping a man to fill out his form when she was attacked on the doorstep of a house. A masked gunman rushed up and shot her through the neck.
The IRA denied that they were responsible, but ballistics showed that the same gun had been used in several IRA murders. It was a big story for a day or two.
But then it was forgotten because a month later Bobby Sands died on hunger strike. As Joanne's husband told the Irish Independent last week, everyone knows about Bobby Sands, but who remembers Joanne?
Martin McGuinness -- our possible future president -- still lives about two miles from where Joanne was shot.
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Switch to the desktop site to post a comment.DublinCitizen | Oct 19, 2011, 01:48 PM EDT
I have never seen the names of JOHN HUME, GERRY FITT, IVAN COOPER, British and Irish Prime Ministers TONY BLAIR and BERTIE AHERN, LIZ O'DONNELL, SEN. GEORGE MITCHELL ETC. who contributed to the Peace Process in Northern Ireland mentioned by any of your commentators. Why not? It took Irish Nationalists and Loyalists long enough to come to the negotating table and only did when they were forced to! After 9/11 donations to the IRA from Irish American dried up when they realised terrorism cannot be allowed to win. The Loyalists terrorists realised they needed to stop also.They did however apologise for the harm and suffering they had done, the IRA has never apologised which they need to do before anyone can forgive them! There are many people still suffering from their bombings, shooting, knee-cappings and downright thuggery (not to mention the families of the disappeard who have no graves to pray at). This is not good enough and McGuinness and Adams have many questions to answer.!
DublinCitizen | Oct 19, 2011, 01:20 PM EDT
I agree with this article from John Spain. I and my family don't want McGuinness representing the Republic of Ireland, flying around the world and living in luxury in Aras An Uachtarain. It's not so long ago Sinn Fein/IRA did not recognise the Irish Government,Courts, Laws and Defence Forces for which they have expressed contempt. They still snigger at us so we can't trust them. Tell me what is a "West Brit"? I've never met one!
abhainn | Oct 10, 2011, 08:06 PM EDT
McGuinness is a brutal thug who is not fit to sit in Áras An Úachtaráin. Also, while it would be nice to believe that Fianna Fáil are permanently exterminated, it is more likely that the Irish electorate will tire of their present government and Fianna Fáil will emerge, at some future time, from their deserved and self-inflicted quarantine.
Kilsally | Sep 30, 2011, 09:31 AM EDT
Sure UDA brigadier Jackie McDonald and former UDA / UDP now Irish Times writier Davy Adams has also supported McG.
Kilsally | Sep 30, 2011, 09:13 AM EDT
Would be quite amusing to see a marxist Sinn Fein President in a bankrupt republic telling everybody not to pay their debts and trying to take the Republic out of the euro and the EU. Interesting to see Gaddafi giving the dissidents money now when he formerly funded the Provos. Electing McG president is a vote for Stormont and the Good Friday Agreement. Next year (28th Sept) is the 100th anniversary of the signing of the Ulster covenant. Happy Ulster Day!
seanomelbourne | Sep 29, 2011, 07:38 PM EDT
Fallsrnat you sold out when you joined the British army.I fear the bromide tea you were given every night hasn't worn off.FYI the officers gave tea laced with bromide with the evening meal so there would be no "hanky panky" in the billets at night.
FallsRNat | Sep 29, 2011, 12:55 PM EDT
i hope he does win, he has already started to show the great irish trait of selling out everybody who he claimed to represent in the past. The SI irish always wanted a UI & for some years were willing to allow the use of the gun as a precursor to that goal, once the Loyalist gangs started their own campaigns notably in 1972-74 bombings, they thought to save their own skins & sell out their RA brethren. Now McG is doing the same, f*ck me, condemning PIRA bombings at the height of the troubles, you should be careful what you wish for sirpeter, he may turn out to be a Brit stooge after all
johnymac60 | Sep 29, 2011, 12:47 PM EDT
The Irish Times printed an 'Opinion' piece today that was critical of McGuinness and was literally filled with innuendo and allegation. That's fine, it was an 'opinion' piece after all. However, then they ran a front page article listing Martin's criminal acts - AND USED THEIR OWN OPINION PIECE AS ATTRIBUTION! This witch hunt is utterly inexplicable to me. But something is really clear to me. Mr. Spain, you were not there. You have never suffered through the British and Loyalist attacks on innocents that started and prolonged the 'Troubles'. Your collection of allegations is as bad as that in the IT. You also seem to have submitted your drivel to the wrong publication, (although why they published it is also a mystery, as the inaccuracy of your work is deplorable)- the Belfast Telegraph is better suited to your sort of thinking. May a little rain cloud follow you around.
mylesie | Sep 29, 2011, 10:44 AM EDT
"...our possible future president (sic) - still lives about two miles from where Joanne was shot...." You don't say!When did Marty move to the Waterside?wa
Taho1221 | Sep 29, 2011, 09:52 AM EDT
Funny how the Irish media is full of anti McGuinness rhetoric. Those presenting this rhetoric are a small club. They get together for dinner parties to rehearse their next week columns. Much to their dismay the everyday Irishman, woman and youth dont think as they do. So, when their predictions are far off the mark they go back to the dinner parties and talk of how foolish they believe the citizens are. The reality is that Martin McGuinness is well respected not only in Ireland but all over the globe. He speaks to the people and he will gain the most votes on October 27. Enjoy your meal!
aloistmartin | Sep 29, 2011, 03:17 AM EDT
There should`nt Be, Money flying out of Bars like Willy Wonka Golden Tickets while People go Hungry through the same Street. There Should`nt Be, Law Books and Ballots in the hands of Parishioners at Church on Sunday. And there Should`nt Be, Hemophiliac`s in Storm Trooper Suits Blocking the Way to Market on Monday Morning !
firinne | Sep 29, 2011, 02:14 AM EDT
At first, I had so much that I had wanted to comment on here, after reading John Spain’s article, which seemed to give a new and broader meaning to the terms “Slanted” and Biased”. However, the following comments seemed to be pretty spot on! Martin McGuinness has provided to the Irish people, a very clear and unmistakable image of a man who could lead and to inspire the people of Ireland. Should he win the presidential election, I truly believe Ireland will also win! The state is in dire need of a president that can help point the way towards a bright and more positive future, a future that would better reflect the ambitions and wishes of a very deserving people. War is ugly and painful, but sadly, it has been necessary as in the case of Ireland verses England for our lives and freedom. Fortunately today, there are many younger and more mentally balanced and astute people in England. I mean this in all seriousness, as the British in the past 8 centuries, have openly treated the Irish people, more of as a disease than their neighbors. They have attempted to annihilate our people, our language, our history, the very memory of us to the world. Therefore, the campaign of “forgive and forget” with regards to the question of the past relationship between Ireland and England, is outrageously inconceivable, especially considering the lingering English biases against the Irish, not to mention the English government’s selective amnesia about that very history. However, with the possible leadership of a man like Martin McGuinness, the Irish people could quite possibly learn to always remember that past, but to at least forgive our former enemy. In that way, our people might then take on the task of what was formally an insurmountable and unrealistic expectation of another return of a strong and proud Irish nation once again! Slan, Tiocfaidh ar là
hancock | Sep 28, 2011, 08:27 PM EDT
He should , just to shut up the hypocritical self righteous Irish.
greensod | Sep 28, 2011, 08:21 PM EDT
Mr Spain, you know nothing about war, and less about Irish History.War is much too nasty for free-staters.
warrenpoint00 | Sep 28, 2011, 08:21 PM EDT
Poor old John the Spain.. time for you to go home to the mainland John you have defnitely overstayed your visitors visa. slan abhaile
seanomelbourne | Sep 28, 2011, 07:02 PM EDT
Mr.Spains onesided rantings will fall on deaf ears. His ramblings lack honesty and fairness. previous members of the IRA held high public office including nobel prize winner Sean Mc Bride who was chief of staff(1930's)My father was a member at that time. Acolytes like Spain are anti-Irish and only serve their masters in London.
eiriamach | Sep 28, 2011, 06:17 PM EDT
I can recall being completely in awe of Martin McGuinness and the other Sinn Feiners who managed the decommissioning of IRA weapons while police forces in NI continued their brutal treatment of nationalists. That process shaped recent Irish history definitively to the present moment. It should be a far more relevant consideration for the current election than Spain's notion that "electing him president would confer a retrospective legitimacy on the entire IRA campaign." How could it do that without also conferring on him recognition of his heroic contributions to the peace process? Has Ireland turned away from a violent, bloody, internecine past? Well, McGuinness helped turn Ireland from that past and set it on a different path, and I, for one, would like to see where the new path leads. 'Wish I could vote!
Gearoid4 | Sep 28, 2011, 05:06 PM EDT
By that same reason, Eamon DeValera, one of one great towering figures in Irish history, would not have qualified to have been president. He was first elected to the presidential office in 1959, re-elected in 1966 and died holding the same position in 1975. Dev was heavily involved in the "armed struggle" from the Easter Rising of 1916 right up to the Civil war(1922-23) and continued his leadership role of anti-treaty forces into the 30's. Fine Gael members of the current coalition are loud and shrill concerning their criticisms of the current Sinn Fein candidate, Martin McGuinness. But this party backed General Sean McEoin for president, both in 1945 and 1959. McEoin was heavily involved in the War of Independence, sanctioning assassinations of RIC men and British soldiers. So you see, there is a history here of figures who had participated in violent actions against the colonial power and later finding themselves as putative candidates for high office. Martin McGuinness will remind the narrow-minded clique who form opinion in the media and politics in southern Ireland that the concept of the Irish nation extends far beyond the current border which has mutilated Ireland for well over 80 years now.
TwinBrook | Sep 28, 2011, 04:17 PM EDT
It is not an easy question nor is the answer any less simple. Through out history, especially Irish history, peace has been achieved through acts that were required to secure freedom. This is true of every country in the world, including England. The freedom of the Irish Republic was gained not with debate. I find nothing that would disqualify the man. The British position is that he is not a criminal nor wanted for any crime, yet he should be disqualifed because of doing what was necessary at the time. This is supposed to be a time of healing and moving forward, but if there can be no healing then should we go back to where we were, how many generations must past before we are absolved of our family's crimes? He is as qualified as any other and shall get my vote.
Mairtin | Sep 28, 2011, 03:45 PM EDT
An excellent choice, while I have nothing against the English, isn't it high time they went home, enough is enough.
sirpeter | Sep 28, 2011, 02:00 PM EDT
@DaithiSuibhne.McGuinness has fought for the oppressed tooth and nail.Power sharing is in place and political injustice which was the root of the problem is gone.The media has trashed Sinn Fein for years and that brain washing needs to be dispelled.If Sinn Fein can get him elected and he does a good job it will quell the fears the people of Ireland have about Sinn Fein.They are still fighting for the ordinary man.Martin is on £35,000 a year.The rest of the £112,000 he gets goes to Sinn Fein.Hardly a man out to feather his own nest is he?
pilib04 | Sep 28, 2011, 01:41 PM EDT
According to Mr. Spain's criteria, Mick Collins should never have been Vice President, let alone President of the Free State government. Sorry Mr. Spain, Revolutionary leaders do get a pass! Whether its Washington or Mandela, DeValera or Collins. Sinn Fein is attempting to lead Ireland away from war into peace. Quite successfully so far, I might add.
DaithiSuibhne | Sep 28, 2011, 11:59 AM EDT
I was once a backer of McGuinness and of his policies because they were legitimate, of course you'll always find people who will find fault in 'someone else's' actions, ie John. For those of you who believe McGuinness has changed his 'old' habits, I cannot really say for sure. What I do see is that he has a new 'slant' on his viewpoint. He once was someone who appeared to care for the subjugated peoples of NI and would fight tooth and nail for the rights of the oppressed, but since his 'rebirth' with the establisment of 'The Good Friday Accord' he's done a complete about face. He no longer continues to help those in need, but rather does the opposite, meaning he is only out for himself. As I see it he has become more 'Loyal' to the crown than any 'Orangeman' ever was, he gladly turns his back on any former comrads because it's not politically correct to do otherwise, in a word he's become 'More British than the British', willing to bend over backward to kiss the Queens royal arse. Since I believe most politician's have to be bold twofaced liars to begin with McGuinness should fit right in.
Tooreenagrena | Sep 28, 2011, 11:51 AM EDT
Another pile of crap from another West Brit. The Queen is also the British head of a state that excused 'Bloody Sunday'was probably responsible for the Dublin - Monaghan bombings and much else. Grow up like the rest of this democracy
Nelsonbarry | Sep 28, 2011, 11:36 AM EDT
The main man in Ireland's peace process as president. I think it's a perfect fit.
Sparklet | Sep 28, 2011, 11:22 AM EDT
Would love to See Martin as President. A passionate, loyal leader. What's the problem.
cillowen | Sep 28, 2011, 10:48 AM EDT
A Brit craven soul who I was able to turn a page on - now his ugly mug appears as I browse. Pukesville. They fear NI martin but went gaga over foreign born Dev Valera, England's Greatest Spy . The in cahoots trigger for Ireland's Civil War with blood flowing freely as brother fought brother - the same valera fellow who also in cahoots with FDR and Churchill kept ould Erin in a so called neutral state during WWII. A brilliant move to ensure resource and manpower were readily available for mother England's cause. Who knew? Dev's prize was a homeland for his tribe. Not at all suprized by the hostility of Ireland's media given their ravings over Queenie's visit. Such mavens who yearn to be on mother's BBC, like much loved Eamon Andrews was.
clevelander | Sep 28, 2011, 10:33 AM EDT
While not a Martin McGuinness fan, his actions were legitimate and right. He is not a criminal and he is acceptable. It really makes me sick reading all these Sassenach leaning writers. Please just go to london and feel at home.
deirdrekeohane | Sep 28, 2011, 10:15 AM EDT
Don't agree. Amazed you can call it a "So-called" War. I bet you're the first to write about any other countries troubles but your own 50 mls up the road. FF is horribly corrupt. My SF councillor down here in West Cork is the only man who has any kind of awareness for the people on lower income.He is a decent hardworking and visible councillor. I changed to SF in the last elections because they are to me the only party that has any experience and strength. Martin McGuinness is light years ahead of the other candidates. We need a very strong leader in these difficult days and McGuinness is the person to do this job.
IronMountainMovies | Sep 28, 2011, 10:14 AM EDT
Poor John. Still caught up in a selective past. No mention of the butchery of De Valera, LeMass. O Kelly and many more whose statues and images don our iconic political past. Indeed for the past fifteen years of the peace process no mention from you of these crimes you accuse McGuinness of. Surely if McGuinness's criminal past is as appalling as you claim, then running for President being your reasons to out him now say more about your selectiveness rather than actually caring about any of his alleged victims. Indeed you could be accused of using the terrible tragedies and the grief of others to further your own narrow political agenda. And if a large number of Irish people vote for McGuinness in the upcoming election will you brand them criminals also? The problem for you and many like you John is that long ago you let your mask slip and readers see you not as an impartial observer from the 'Third Estate' but rather one who seeks to further their personal political agenda through the privileged and unaccountable position of the media rather than the ballot box, so you only preach to the converted. I'm sure those 'good people' in Fox News will take account of your 'talent' and maybe a job could be opened there for you. Regards, Ronan Gallagher Leitrim Ireland
sirpeter | Sep 28, 2011, 10:00 AM EDT
John.It's as simple as this.Ireland has a long history of trying to achieving it's aims peacefully and by force of arms.Daniel O'Connell was probably our greatest political leader who was totally anti-violence.He achieved a sort of Catholic emancipation to be able to vote.Even though the British then changed the rules so only the rich Catholics could vote.So it really wasn't Catholic emancipation.It was Catholic emancipation for about 10%.His Campaign for Repeal of the Union was also a peaceful campaign.But the British were taking no chances on this one and banned his monster meeting in Clontarf,Dublin.The British knowing he hated violence threatened violence and got him to call off the peaceful meeting and that was the end of repeal of the Union.We got our independence and self-determination by the use of the gun.Peaceful means doesn't work very well.There was 40 years of injustice in NI before the gun had to be taken up again.And that was after the British army shot and killed peaceful people marching.Do you think the hard headed Unionists/British would have shared power with Catholics if it wasn't for 30 years of violence?History tells me they would not.The rather low key violence 3500 dead over 30 years is low key violence) was necessary for power sharing to come about.They wanted change to a corrupt system and McGuinness and others moved at the right time to bring that about.Sometimes you have to use force to bring change about.Marching for justice is all very well and civilised, but not when you have baton rounds flying at you and water cannon and bullets.Who will march with you then?
unconvinced | Sep 28, 2011, 09:47 AM EDT
All I can say God Help us God Help us