Why McGuinness shouldn’t be President
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Even though it was never concluded or resolved at the time, most people had thought that the debate about the IRA was over, that it had ended with the IRA campaign.
For the sake of peace most people had been happy to let it go, to let the issues involved around the IRA/Sinn Fein double act wither away over time. For the sake of peace, it seemed better to swallow hard and say nothing as former IRA men morphed into Sinn Fein politicians who suddenly believed in democracy.
In the south, it was never a big deal because Sinn Fein was a fringe party and likely to remain so. But it turns out that this debate is not over.
The entry of McGuinness into the presidential election has opened up the argument again. It's back with a vengeance now because it has an immediate relevance for people here.
This time the issue cannot be ignored or forgotten or swept under the carpet or left to history. This time, because of the presidential vote in a few weeks, people in the south have to decide where they stand on the claimed legitimacy of the IRA's so-called "war.”
If it wasn't legitimate, it was criminal. We know McGuinness was deeply involved.
So depending on your view, that may mean McGuinness was involved in criminality and that would make him an unacceptable candidate for the presidency.
Even though it's just begun, the debate already has brought to the surface again some cases of extreme IRA violence that McGuinness was either involved in or responsible for as an IRA leader. With over four weeks of the election to go we can expect that more of these cases will be resurrected.
Some of them are so appalling and so hard to justify on any level -- we will mention just a couple of them later -- that one would think they would automatically preclude anyone involved from becoming president.
But this debate is not just about McGuinness's personal record. His own record is not the only reason why he should not be president.
The wider and more important reason is that electing him president would confer a retrospective legitimacy on the entire IRA campaign. And that is what this is about. That is the main reason Sinn Fein wants to get him elected as president.
It's not about giving McGuinness a happy retirement in the splendor of the Aras (on the average industrial wage, of course!) It's about parading the former IRA leader at home and abroad as the face of a new republican Ireland, comfortable with its bloody recent past.
Another factor in the Sinn Fein planning is that the president we elect this time will be in office in 2016 when the centenary of the 1916 Rising takes place. Think about that.
A Sinn Fein president fronting the national commemoration ceremonies would give a visual reality to the direct link that Sinn Fein and the IRA claim to the men of 1916. It would be a massive publicity boost for them and give a new context of legitimacy to the campaign of murder and mayhem they waged over the 30 years of the Troubles.
Overtaking Fianna Fail as the party of constitutional republicanism in the south, just as it has taken the place of the SDLP in the North, has been an ambition of Sinn Fein for the past few years. It used to be a pipe dream.
But the collapse of Fianna Fail in the election earlier this year has presented Sinn Fein with a golden opportunity to make the dream a reality. An election of a Sinn Fein president this year would make it easier for a lot of people to vote for Sinn Fein candidates in the next general election in a few years.
The opportunity to eclipse Fianna Fail and become the main opposition party has been enhanced by Fianna Fail's shortsighted decision not to run a candidate for the presidency this time. They say they need time to rebuild the party.
But with Sinn Fein looming, this is a strategy that makes turkeys voting for Christmas look intelligent. With the present government faced with three years of painful cutbacks ahead, people will be fed up and looking for alternatives by the time the next general election comes. It could be Sinn Fein's big chance.
The election of a Sinn Fein president this year is part of this long-term strategy, a plan the party has been working on for some time. They want to be in government north and south of the border, which they believe will make their ultimate aim of reunification easier to achieve. And when that comes about the Unionists will just have to accept the situation!
The problem with all this, of course, is Sinn Fein's selective approach to democratic legitimacy, as we have seen in the recent past, not just in the north but in the south as well. This has allowed them to refuse to acknowledge the state, the courts and the law in the south.
It has allowed them to murder Gardai (police) and ordinary citizens, to rob banks, import weapons and explosives and intimidate anyone (including juries) who may get in their way.
Their certainty not only of the legitimacy of their cause but of its supremacy over the requirements of our democracy makes them different than other political parties here.
They claim to have changed and to now fully accept and support the southern state.
But for many people here it's much too early to judge whether this is true or not. There needs to be a much longer period of probation. That is the background to what's going on behind the headlines.
But it is McGuinness's personal record which has been making the headlines over the past week. Back in the late 1990s McGuinness told the Saville Inquiry into Bloody Sunday that he had left the IRA in the early 1970s.
Nobody -- including himself -- believes this. Certainly the British government did not believe it, since they continued to talk to him whenever they wanted to negotiate with the IRA. And the Gardai in the south believe that he continued to be one of the top IRA leaders from the 1970s to the 1990s.
His IRA career is so well documented that it's not necessary for me to go through it here again. From his time as a teenage butcher boy (!) in Derry who joined the IRA, quickly rising to take command of the IRA in the city, on to being head of the Northern Command, chief of staff and chairman of the Army Council.
Some of the most infamous IRA actions took place on his watch -- Mountbatten, Warrenpoint, Enniskillen, to name just three -- at a time when he led the Northern Command or held an even more senior position.
One of the early ones I remember was the Kingsmill massacre in Co. Armagh in 1976 when the IRA stopped a bus, took everyone off, separated the Protestants and executed 10 of them.
But it is some of the lesser-known or forgotten individual atrocities that McGuinness was responsible for that have been brought up again in the media here in the past week to illustrate the ruthless cruelty with which he operated, a far cry from his recent Chuckle Brothers act.
There was the invention by the IRA under McGuinness's leadership of the "proxy bomb,” long before the Islamist suicide bombers thought of it (at least they blow themselves up, the IRA forced other people to do it).
In particular, there was the case of a Catholic man called Patsy Gillespie who worked in a British Army canteen and therefore was deemed to be a "collaborator" (not just a family man who badly needed a job). The IRA held his family hostage while they strapped him to the driver's seat of a van with a 1,000 pound bomb and ordered him to drive the van up to an army checkpoint. They then detonated it by remote control, killing him and several soldiers.
Or there was the case of IRA man Frank Hegarty, who had betrayed the location of an IRA arms dump to the British Army. He fled to England and was in hiding but wanted to come home.
McGuinness visited his mother several times, telling her Frank needed to return to straighten things out and that he would be okay. When he did come back the IRA kidnapped and murdered him. Mrs. Hegarty never forgave herself for being fooled by McGuinness into luring her son back, and years later when she took part in a TV program telling the story she was still blaming herself.
These and some of the accounts of McGuinness's actions in his earlier days in Derry -- tarring and feathering locals or doing punishment shootings to enforce his rule -- show a cold ruthlessness from the very beginning. He was uncompromising and vicious, quickly moving on from attacking British soldiers in Derry to assassinating Catholics who were in the RUC.
One story about him that I had forgotten resurfaced in the Irish Independent last weekend, and it's worth relaying because it typifies the absolute ruthlessness with which he operated. This happened in April of 1982 when McGuinness was chief of staff of the IRA but still intimately involved in what the IRA was doing in Derry.
In 1982 Joanne Mathers, 29, a mother of a young son, was doing a part time job collecting census forms on a housing estate in Derry. The IRA had ordered people in Derry to boycott the census.
Joanne, a Protestant originally from Donegal who had a degree in town planning from Queen's University, was helping a man to fill out his form when she was attacked on the doorstep of a house. A masked gunman rushed up and shot her through the neck.
The IRA denied that they were responsible, but ballistics showed that the same gun had been used in several IRA murders. It was a big story for a day or two.
But then it was forgotten because a month later Bobby Sands died on hunger strike. As Joanne's husband told the Irish Independent last week, everyone knows about Bobby Sands, but who remembers Joanne?
Martin McGuinness -- our possible future president -- still lives about two miles from where Joanne was shot.
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eiriamach | Sep 28, 2011, 06:17 PM EDT
I can recall being completely in awe of Martin McGuinness and the other Sinn Feiners who managed the decommissioning of IRA weapons while police forces in NI continued their brutal treatment of nationalists. That process shaped recent Irish history definitively to the present moment. It should be a far more relevant consideration for the current election than Spain's notion that "electing him president would confer a retrospective legitimacy on the entire IRA campaign." How could it do that without also conferring on him recognition of his heroic contributions to the peace process? Has Ireland turned away from a violent, bloody, internecine past? Well, McGuinness helped turn Ireland from that past and set it on a different path, and I, for one, would like to see where the new path leads. 'Wish I could vote!
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Gearoid4 | Sep 28, 2011, 05:06 PM EDT
By that same reason, Eamon DeValera, one of one great towering figures in Irish history, would not have qualified to have been president. He was first elected to the presidential office in 1959, re-elected in 1966 and died holding the same position in 1975. Dev was heavily involved in the "armed struggle" from the Easter Rising of 1916 right up to the Civil war(1922-23) and continued his leadership role of anti-treaty forces into the 30's. Fine Gael members of the current coalition are loud and shrill concerning their criticisms of the current Sinn Fein candidate, Martin McGuinness. But this party backed General Sean McEoin for president, both in 1945 and 1959. McEoin was heavily involved in the War of Independence, sanctioning assassinations of RIC men and British soldiers. So you see, there is a history here of figures who had participated in violent actions against the colonial power and later finding themselves as putative candidates for high office. Martin McGuinness will remind the narrow-minded clique who form opinion in the media and politics in southern Ireland that the concept of the Irish nation extends far beyond the current border which has mutilated Ireland for well over 80 years now.
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TwinBrook | Sep 28, 2011, 04:17 PM EDT
It is not an easy question nor is the answer any less simple. Through out history, especially Irish history, peace has been achieved through acts that were required to secure freedom. This is true of every country in the world, including England. The freedom of the Irish Republic was gained not with debate. I find nothing that would disqualify the man. The British position is that he is not a criminal nor wanted for any crime, yet he should be disqualifed because of doing what was necessary at the time. This is supposed to be a time of healing and moving forward, but if there can be no healing then should we go back to where we were, how many generations must past before we are absolved of our family's crimes? He is as qualified as any other and shall get my vote.
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Mairtin | Sep 28, 2011, 03:45 PM EDT
An excellent choice, while I have nothing against the English, isn't it high time they went home, enough is enough.
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sirpeter | Sep 28, 2011, 02:00 PM EDT
@DaithiSuibhne.McGuinness has fought for the oppressed tooth and nail.Power sharing is in place and political injustice which was the root of the problem is gone.The media has trashed Sinn Fein for years and that brain washing needs to be dispelled.If Sinn Fein can get him elected and he does a good job it will quell the fears the people of Ireland have about Sinn Fein.They are still fighting for the ordinary man.Martin is on £35,000 a year.The rest of the £112,000 he gets goes to Sinn Fein.Hardly a man out to feather his own nest is he?
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pilib04 | Sep 28, 2011, 01:41 PM EDT
According to Mr. Spain's criteria, Mick Collins should never have been Vice President, let alone President of the Free State government. Sorry Mr. Spain, Revolutionary leaders do get a pass! Whether its Washington or Mandela, DeValera or Collins. Sinn Fein is attempting to lead Ireland away from war into peace. Quite successfully so far, I might add.
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DaithiSuibhne | Sep 28, 2011, 11:59 AM EDT
I was once a backer of McGuinness and of his policies because they were legitimate, of course you'll always find people who will find fault in 'someone else's' actions, ie John. For those of you who believe McGuinness has changed his 'old' habits, I cannot really say for sure. What I do see is that he has a new 'slant' on his viewpoint. He once was someone who appeared to care for the subjugated peoples of NI and would fight tooth and nail for the rights of the oppressed, but since his 'rebirth' with the establisment of 'The Good Friday Accord' he's done a complete about face. He no longer continues to help those in need, but rather does the opposite, meaning he is only out for himself. As I see it he has become more 'Loyal' to the crown than any 'Orangeman' ever was, he gladly turns his back on any former comrads because it's not politically correct to do otherwise, in a word he's become 'More British than the British', willing to bend over backward to kiss the Queens royal arse. Since I believe most politician's have to be bold twofaced liars to begin with McGuinness should fit right in.
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Tooreenagrena | Sep 28, 2011, 11:51 AM EDT
Another pile of crap from another West Brit. The Queen is also the British head of a state that excused 'Bloody Sunday'was probably responsible for the Dublin - Monaghan bombings and much else. Grow up like the rest of this democracy
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Nelsonbarry | Sep 28, 2011, 11:36 AM EDT
The main man in Ireland's peace process as president. I think it's a perfect fit.
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Sparklet | Sep 28, 2011, 11:22 AM EDT
Would love to See Martin as President. A passionate, loyal leader. What's the problem.
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cillowen | Sep 28, 2011, 10:48 AM EDT
A Brit craven soul who I was able to turn a page on
- now his ugly mug appears as I browse. Pukesville.
They fear NI martin but went gaga over foreign born
Dev Valera, England's Greatest Spy . The in cahoots trigger for Ireland's Civil War with blood flowing freely as brother fought brother - the same valera fellow who also in cahoots with FDR and Churchill kept ould Erin in a so called neutral state during WWII. A brilliant move to ensure resource and manpower were readily available for mother England's
cause. Who knew? Dev's prize was a homeland for his tribe. Not at all suprized by the hostility of Ireland's media given their ravings over Queenie's visit. Such mavens who yearn to be on mother's BBC,
like much loved Eamon Andrews was.
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clevelander | Sep 28, 2011, 10:33 AM EDT
While not a Martin McGuinness fan, his actions were legitimate and right. He is not a criminal and he is acceptable. It really makes me sick reading all these Sassenach leaning writers. Please just go to london and feel at home.
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deirdrekeohane | Sep 28, 2011, 10:15 AM EDT
Don't agree. Amazed you can call it a "So-called" War. I bet you're the first to write about any other countries troubles but your own 50 mls up the road. FF is horribly corrupt. My SF councillor down here in West Cork is the only man who has any kind of awareness for the people on lower income.He is a decent hardworking and visible councillor. I changed to SF in the last elections because they are to me the only party that has any experience and strength.
Martin McGuinness is light years ahead of the other candidates. We need a very strong leader in these difficult days and McGuinness is the person to do this job.
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IronMountainMovies | Sep 28, 2011, 10:14 AM EDT
Poor John. Still caught up in a selective past. No mention of the butchery of De Valera, LeMass. O Kelly and many more whose statues and images don our iconic political past. Indeed for the past fifteen years of the peace process no mention from you of these crimes you accuse McGuinness of. Surely if McGuinness's criminal past is as appalling as you claim, then running for President being your reasons to out him now say more about your selectiveness rather than actually caring about any of his alleged victims. Indeed you could be accused of using the terrible tragedies and the grief of others to further your own narrow political agenda. And if a large number of Irish people vote for McGuinness in the upcoming election will you brand them criminals also? The problem for you and many like you John is that long ago you let your mask slip and readers see you not as an impartial observer from the 'Third Estate' but rather one who seeks to further their personal political agenda through the privileged and unaccountable position of the media rather than the ballot box, so you only preach to the converted. I'm sure those 'good people' in Fox News will take account of your 'talent' and maybe a job could be opened there for you.
Regards,
Ronan Gallagher
Leitrim
Ireland
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