Green carpet for Queen Elizabeth
By: John Spain | Published Wednesday, June 30, 2010, 8:20 AM | Updated Friday, September 9, 2011, 9:43 PM

The Queen is coming! She's due within the next year, and already the
Sinn Fein boys are working themselves into a lather of outrage.
The invitation which was issued last week by Taoiseach (Prime Minister)
Brian Cowen is "totally unacceptable," according to the leader of Sinn Fein in the Dail (
Parliament), Caoimhghin O Caolain.
But he's not fooling me. I know what's really bothering them. The Sinn Fein boys are worrying themselves sick about their bows!
Not too far is the secret of the perfect bow, I'm told. You bend at the waist and keep the back straight as you incline forward to about 20 degrees from the vertical.
At the same time a very slight downward inclination of the head is required. You hold that position for about two seconds and then straighten up again.
It's fairly simple, yes? No tugging of the forelock necessary. No groveling expected.
You'd do more or less the same if you were meeting the Japanese Emperor or the Pope instead of the Old Enemy (and the Queen is much more interesting than either of them).
So if O Caolain is introduced to Her Horsiness, that's all he has to do. That, and keep his mouth shut. You don't speak until you are spoken to.
Come to think of it, Caoimhghin may find that part the most difficult since he never seems to shut up.
But apart from that, if at some point in the royal visit to the Republic the party leaders are lined up to be introduced, the Sinn Fein leader in the Dail is perfect for the job.
Caoimhghin is famous for his preening self-importance, waffling on in pompous, flowery language in his Dail speeches like ... well, like royalty.
Anyway, if he gets lucky and is introduced, he does the bow, keeps his mouth shut, then Granny Windsor may well ask him one of her inane questions about the weather, what you do, how far you've come, or where One might buy a few promising horses at the right price. Even Caoimhghin, when he calms down, should be able to manage that.
Of course we have had stories about an imminent visit from the Queen before which have come to nothing, but this time it's different. Cowen made the invitation last Wednesday when he had his first face to face meeting with the new
British Prime Minister David Cameron in Downing Street.
The invitation was warmly received by Cameron, who happens to be a distant relative of the Queen (all these bluebloods are inter-related), and it seems certain that the visit will go ahead before the end of next year.
Cowen played down the significance of what he was doing, which is no more than one would expect from a man of sound Republican views like himself. There was no advance briefing of the press about the invite, and Cowen mentioned it almost casually in his press conference after the
London meeting.
Announcing the royal invite, Cowen said that there had been a "transformation of the relationship" between the two countries in recent years, and that there were now "no obstacles" to a visit by the Queen.
"We should reflect on the very good relations between our peoples on the islands of
Ireland and
Britain, and I think also that normal courtesies involving the exchange of visits by heads of state is something that can and should happen," Cowen said.
He hoped that the visit by the Queen would take place before the end of President McAleese's term of office, which finishes in November next year. The two women know each other well at this stage because they have met at least half a dozen times, in London and in the North. But of course never in the south.
Because of the 800 years of colonialism and the old enmity that remained, complicated by the North, the Queen has never been here. We've had a Pope and Japanese royalty among many other crowned heads from
Europe, but never Herself from just across the water.
She has visited around 130 countries, quite a few of them former British colonies, but never the Republic of Ireland. That has always been a step too far ... for us, not for her, in spite of what O Caolain's colleagues did to Mountbatten.
But we're into a new era now and it's time to move on, as Cowen has said. Even Sinn Fein should be able to grasp that.
Apart from the symbolic significance of the visit which is important both for us and the British, there are other, more practical reasons why we should give her a warm welcome in Ireland. The cynics have pointed out that we need all the tourists we can get!
But since she doesn't carry any money with her, we're not going to get rich selling her a few sandwiches at the Galway Races or booking her into a B&B in
Killarney.
However, it is true that, ever since Diana, there is huge interest in the British royal family and the visit here by the Queen will get global coverage.
Some of the clever boys here are already working on ways they can get the Queen into situations that will show off Ireland like a Bord Failte TV commercial. So a visit to a stud farm or a race meeting or the
Dublin Horse Show would be good.
As well as horses, she also loves plants and gardening and there are truly spectacular gardens here, many attached to great country houses, that she would enjoy. She has also done a bit of fly fishing in her time, so maybe we could get that honorary Irishman Jack Charlton to cast a line with her on some of his favorite salmon rivers in the west of Ireland.
Then there is shooting and hunting, although that might be a step too far at her age.
But you get the idea.
Global publicity of that kind would be invaluable. She's a feisty Old Dear and we have things to offer her in this country that she would love to see and do, apart from the gala dinners and boring speeches in Dublin Castle that will inevitably be part of the visit.
The last time a significant British royal was here was back in the 1990s when
John Bruton was taoiseach in the 1990s and
Prince Charles came over. And I seem to remember that people were killing each other to get invited to that state dinner in Dublin Castle at the time.
This visit will be much more significant, and it is likely that there will be even greater competition to get on the guest list for the state dinner and the other events the Queen will attend.
Of course there will be many diehards around who will not be able to join in. And it won't be just the Shinners.
There will be many people here who won't have the generosity or the imagination to make the leap away from the past. Thirty years ago, when I was a young journalist on the Irish Press, referring to "the Queen" instead of "the Queen of England" was enough to get you fired.
Similarly it was the same with any story that referred to the North as "
Northern Ireland" instead of the preferred "Six Counties,” a term designed to refuse recognition to the Northern parliament and state.
There are still a lot of people here, most of them now older, who still use this terminology and will turn their backs on the Queen (of England!) when she gets here.
But if she can forgive us for the murderous attack on her beloved uncle (and close advisor) Mountbatten in what was one of most despicable and cowardly actions carried out by the
IRA in the south, then surely we can get over the past as well.
For her that was personal and painful to a degree that most people here in the south never experienced throughout the Troubles.
If Herself can forgive and move on, surely we can as well?
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Switch to the desktop site to post a comment.Towngate | Oct 23, 2010, 05:40 PM EDT
When the Pope gave Ireland to England and their army landed, as the King stepped ashore at Baginbun,there was nobody there to meet,greet or oppose them as they made their way to Dublin and continued what Earl Pembroke had begun at Irish request! What the country has become by their hands and latterly by our own 'free' hands, will indicate how the population might greet the current Monarch who comes as a head of a friendly and generous near neighbour with the intention of strengthening the bonds of mutual respect and co-operation. Personally, I prefer a State Visit to a Massing of Troops and a Declaration of War, thank you very much!
STEPcoach | Sep 26, 2010, 05:18 PM EDT
Clearly the writer of this piece (of ****), John Spain is no Irishman. If he were, he'd have the common sense to not compare our killing of one brit (Mountbatten) with the multiple millions of Irish who were murdered and raped (often in that order) by her tragedy's soldiers. For over 700 years we suffered their mastery without losing our dignity or our culture, tho they were determined to eradicate us. If that auld bitch does have the gall to visit Irish soil, she should be barefoot and on her knees begging forgiveness for the crimes against humanity done to our parents and ancestors. I'd much rather see her shot in Kilmainham Jail yard, but, if she will act honorably - that is with a contrite and sincerely apologetic spirit - then we could consider allowing her to leave again.
seanomelbourne | Jul 07, 2010, 08:40 PM EDT
you make some pertinent points teadoir.
teadoir | Jul 07, 2010, 12:08 PM EDT
@ dermot.r....Judas turned on his people for 30 pieces of silver, seems like the Irish only care about money now and lost the trait of standing up for principals or doing the right thing....no wonder your economy is in the crapper
teadoir | Jul 07, 2010, 12:01 PM EDT
Personally I see nothing wrong with the Queen of England visiting Ireland as with any other Heads of States or Commonwealths. I do have a problem with any Irishman or Irishwomen bowing or flexing to 20degrees in respect to the Queen of England. Isn’t she visiting Ireland? If that is the case, a handshake and photo opt should be sufficient enough as with any other visiting elected official. Have any of the elected officials in the Republic any backbone anymore or all they just a bunch of pansies that really don’t give a shake about the six counties of the North? Some of them probably would rather be a part of the commonwealth now that they have emptied the coffers of the citizens of Ireland.
seanomelbourne | Jul 07, 2010, 03:10 AM EDT
why not a red carpet?or would that remind them of Irish blood.
Hurleyboy | Jul 07, 2010, 01:00 AM EDT
As a member of the Irish Diaspora from America, never bow before a despot, ever. The ROI already gave up the constitutional call for a United Ireland. Shame on you for greeting the Queen! The dead of The Great Hunger curse you!
seanomelbourne | Jul 05, 2010, 08:25 PM EDT
Well trueCelt11 as Bob Dylan said "journalists are just a bunch of frustrated novelists".And Spain takes the biscuit,he's nothing but another British apologist and my God Ireland is full of them.
WoundedKnee | Jul 05, 2010, 05:26 PM EDT
The difference between Spain the country and Spain the columnist is that Spain the country was always a good friend of Ireland.
TrueCelt11 | Jul 05, 2010, 09:00 AM EDT
Perhaps the amigo pontificates on here George Davis & is only acting as 'Devil's Advocate' - making his silly comments which are so insulting to the memories of those who died in Ireland at the hands of the British forces over the centuries just for 'journalistic' purposes - in which case it is a shameful exercise. Who is this 'us' that the amigo mentions ?
seanomelbourne | Jul 05, 2010, 08:03 AM EDT
My posting was removed. I can only presume I hurt THE amigo's sensibilities,if that is so I am happy.
GeorgeDavis | Jul 04, 2010, 07:57 PM EDT
Truecelt--I don't think M16 would pay Spain for his articles. They don't pay for garbage--that's free..
GeorgeDavis | Jul 04, 2010, 07:56 PM EDT
Good Post, Truecelt. It shows the utter blind two-faced nature of Spain that he whines about violence while slavering at the mistress of the British Army. Are you for or against mass murder, Spain, you hypocrite?
TrueCelt11 | Jul 04, 2010, 10:01 AM EDT
I know that my posting will be removed as my previous one was - but here goes anyway. Who the hell are John Spain & Niall O'Dowd & who is pulling their strings ? This same English queen that 'Spain' is slavering over is the one who awarded medals to British troops who killed innocent Irish civilians at Derry, Belfast etc & colluded in the bombings at Dublin & Monaghan. This same woman is the one is in charge of the armed forces that illegally invaded Iraq, resulting in the deaths of well over 1.2 million people & the displacement of another 4 million as refugees. Does MI6 pay you well for these articles Spain & O'Dowd ?
Nicoletta | Jul 03, 2010, 12:41 AM EDT
Good article John. My parents came to the UK as economic migrants in the fifties (as did thousands of Irish people). As my dad (RIP) often said 'England gave him a job, educated his children - all five of them - in non-fee paying Catholic schools and then with free grants through universities and free health care.' He was a proud Irishman but would have welcomed this invitation.
McNamara31 | Jul 01, 2010, 04:25 PM EDT
When "her royal foot", steps on Irish soil, millions will turn in their graves. Irish and English attitudes may have progressed, and many families are entwined through marriage, but what "She" represents has not.
WoundedKnee | Jul 01, 2010, 12:42 PM EDT
dermot.r: Your post is nonsense. If the people of the South kissed the bums of royalty and waved English flags and slid back into the UK we'd have a united Ireland overnight. Some of the Irish would do all that -- the likes of columnist Spain here-- but there remains a sizable minority who are free men and women.
WoundedKnee | Jul 01, 2010, 12:39 PM EDT
Spain: "Thirty years ago, when I was a young journalist on the Irish Press, referring to "the Queen" instead of "the Queen of England" was enough to get you fired". ---- 30 years later, Spain's racist columns, in which he regularly defends violence and terrorism, are enough to get him fired. Fire this Creep!
Southernpride | Jul 01, 2010, 12:34 PM EDT
dermot.r The Queen will get a good reception from most people in the South Of Ireland. No need for any protestant/Catholic lunatics from N.I. coming South of the border to stir up trouble. We have had enough of you terrorist loons from N.I. for past 40 odd years killing each other
hancock | Jul 01, 2010, 12:00 AM EDT
Anybody who would bow to her, or anybody else, has no dignity.
CanadianPat | Jun 30, 2010, 09:29 PM EDT
I can see the importance of such a visit to show that we can and will move forward but personally I would rather she stay away as I can't stomach her . I find it repugnant how here in Canada some prostrate and swoon to her and her twisted family.I trust she will receive nothing more than a polite reception.
GuinnessGrrl | Jun 30, 2010, 09:26 PM EDT
Roll out the green carpet for her? Roll her up in it and throw it into the Irish Sea!
citizen69 | Jun 30, 2010, 05:43 PM EDT
Well spoken Dermot.r
Ajreaper | Jun 30, 2010, 04:50 PM EDT
Honestfeedback- good lord did you swallow a dictionary?
barneyjo | Jun 30, 2010, 04:33 PM EDT
Oh Lord but I can just see Dev's ghost dancing at the crossroads. When oh when will the nay sayers and begrudgers see that the past is another country? Well bloody well hurry up then!!
HonestFeedback | Jun 30, 2010, 12:03 PM EDT
Why no criticism of the dangers of royalty? For most of human history we have been peasants to her class. And it appears we're moving into a new phase of global economic depression. Exalting the queen as a harmless all-forgiving mother is wrong in the analysis and in the times we live. Her class are tiny and yet suck up exorbitant resources including expanding property needs, and require expanding human degradation--somewhere--to pay for it and protect it. She is positioning her aristocratic class into a revised role of stability as the world falls apart. It's an old trick of royalty, and a danger to lovers of freedom. People are easily tricked into assuming the position of peasant. John Spain is already practicing, to quote: "You bend at the waist and keep the back straight as you incline forward to about 20 degrees from the vertical. At the same time a very slight downward inclination of the head is required. You hold that position for about two seconds and then straighten up again. It's fairly simple, yes?" The monarchy of England assumes an intimate relationship with forces of global banking, that make it much more important than mere symbol. The monarchy stands to exert enormous psychological control on the world as faith in fiat currencies around the earth fail with collapsing economies. We must not down-play the allure of royalty in a world smitten with apocalypse and religious ecstasy, matched to material upheaval, especially a monarch whose face is stamped on money and goods across the planet. This is no doddy old lady. This is the sweet-face mask of a dragon class bent on aristocratic renaissance.
dermot.r | Jun 30, 2010, 10:31 AM EDT
Savetara: While I am certainly no fan of the British queen or any monarchy for that matter, the fact is, her visit will pay dividends far in excess if 8m Euros. Many of my old Protestant friends and neighbors will head south for a glimpse and many will stay the night in local B&Bs and raise a toast to her at the local pubs. Besides the money they bring, how they are treated on their visit will be indicative to them of how they might be treated when the island is united ---- so my fellow nationalists and republicans, roll out the green carpet and make them feel at HOME!
savetara | Jun 30, 2010, 09:19 AM EDT
Apart from John Spain's biased and one sided anti Caoilain agenda I would like to point out that the cost of that woman visiting our country is estimated at €8m needed to provide a ring of steel against dissident republicans, egg throwers and Islamic extremists. That no doubt will come from the pensions, medical cards, one parent familily payments and various cuts to educational, health and other essential services all so we can give the Brittish Queen a good time. I dont think so John Spain.