Talking religion in 2011
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The time for resolutions is upon us. After recovering from our hangovers (or in my case, the severe and ill-timed case of food poisoning that afflicted my fiance and I and relegated us to our couch watching When Harry Met Sally and sipping sparkling water for New Year's Eve, which is actually a lovely way to spend the evening), we're all full of freshness and possibility and promise.
Many resolutions, which seem so realistic with 365 sunrises at our disposal in which to accomplish them, fall by the way side before Martin Luther King day, mostly because they are exercises in perfection. "I will never eat too much dessert again!" etc. I've of course vowed to lose 20 pounds, workout 4 times a week, write 1,000 words a day, weed out my closet by half, and stash 1/3 of my earnings away to pay for our weddings. These are honorable goals, but easy to fall short of, and I've been thinking about something I can do that's less tangible but just as significant to bettering myself.
In 2011, I'd like to have more discussions about religion.
This is a tricky one, because I don't mean that I plan on preaching to anyone, or bringing up religion to make anyone uncomfortable, but I would like religion in general to become more of an easy topic, both on a personal level and a general cultural interest level.
I have close friends, people who I feel like I know inside and out, but I realize that I don't know, for example, what they believe happens to us when we die. I could assume, as I do, based on their particular religious upbringing, but I don't necessarily know.
I sometimes steer clear of religious conversations with family members, because I want to keep the peace, and because I'm not exactly sure what they believe. I definitely stay away from talking religion with certain people when I know I'll disagree with them.
I spend a good deal of time thinking and writing about my own religion, and trying to understand the religions of others, but too often this is done in my own mind. I believe that talking about beliefs can only help to strengthen them, and I don't do that enough. I also feel that debacles we saw in 2010 like the so-called Ground Zero Mosque issue and general anti-Muslim vitriol or the censorship of art at a national museum in the misused name of religion would have been lessened if people in general could discuss other religions more openly.
With that in mind, I'm going to do my best not to shy away from potentially prickly conversations just because they might be difficult. It is only through dialogue that we can learn, and that's all I can hope to do.
Many resolutions, which seem so realistic with 365 sunrises at our disposal in which to accomplish them, fall by the way side before Martin Luther King day, mostly because they are exercises in perfection. "I will never eat too much dessert again!" etc. I've of course vowed to lose 20 pounds, workout 4 times a week, write 1,000 words a day, weed out my closet by half, and stash 1/3 of my earnings away to pay for our weddings. These are honorable goals, but easy to fall short of, and I've been thinking about something I can do that's less tangible but just as significant to bettering myself.
In 2011, I'd like to have more discussions about religion.
This is a tricky one, because I don't mean that I plan on preaching to anyone, or bringing up religion to make anyone uncomfortable, but I would like religion in general to become more of an easy topic, both on a personal level and a general cultural interest level.
I have close friends, people who I feel like I know inside and out, but I realize that I don't know, for example, what they believe happens to us when we die. I could assume, as I do, based on their particular religious upbringing, but I don't necessarily know.
I sometimes steer clear of religious conversations with family members, because I want to keep the peace, and because I'm not exactly sure what they believe. I definitely stay away from talking religion with certain people when I know I'll disagree with them.
I spend a good deal of time thinking and writing about my own religion, and trying to understand the religions of others, but too often this is done in my own mind. I believe that talking about beliefs can only help to strengthen them, and I don't do that enough. I also feel that debacles we saw in 2010 like the so-called Ground Zero Mosque issue and general anti-Muslim vitriol or the censorship of art at a national museum in the misused name of religion would have been lessened if people in general could discuss other religions more openly.
With that in mind, I'm going to do my best not to shy away from potentially prickly conversations just because they might be difficult. It is only through dialogue that we can learn, and that's all I can hope to do.
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jacersagain | Jan 15, 2011, 02:02 PM EST
@ eiriamach - Thanks for that.
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eiriamach | Jan 15, 2011, 12:57 PM EST
Here's another suggestion, for an example of blogging that takes religious perspectives into account while dealing with one of the harsh realities of life in America: do a search for Diana Butler Bass' "Gabby Opened Her Eyes: May We Also Open Ours." It is published on the Huffington site as well as Bass' own blog, and it's interesting to read the comments that readers have posted at both places. The Arizona shootings are not an "easy topic," but Bass and the readers' comments illuminate a cultural divide that has been with us for more than four centuries.
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jacersagain | Jan 13, 2011, 03:17 PM EST
In case anyone’s interested, while browsing the BBC’s News website, I was drawn to an amusing article about 10 Christian names that you don’t see often, if not at all. This led me to a link to another article, published in the UK’s Guardian newspaper today, Jan 13th, referring to a new event to take place worldwide in the first week of February every year from now on, entitled World Interfaith Harmony Week. It is the result of a United Nations Resolution of last October that was actually proposed by the King of Jordan but of huge interest to Christians, Jews, Muslims and those of no faith. The article is particularly worth a read as it pertains to Megan’s plan to discuss religion. I must research more on the net for this event, as it starts in less than 3 weeks time for the first time ever.
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jacersagain | Jan 11, 2011, 05:54 PM EST
Does anyone notice that the ones who don't want to discuss religion are the ones who need religion? That's not to say that the ones who don't want to discuss religion, need to discuss religion. We look forward to their being noticeable by their absences. I say "G'wan Megan... Just do it, Nike them".
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sirpeter | Jan 09, 2011, 11:15 AM EST
More discussions on Religion!!..Make it more of an easy topic Megan?!! Please don't..Pretty Pretty Please!!
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esatdigiwank | Jan 06, 2011, 12:51 PM EST
more discussions about 'mind-warp'? no no never. Least of our worries
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eiriamach | Jan 05, 2011, 02:17 PM EST
What's the difference between "criticizing" and "critical thinking"? I think I know what JamieLM means in regard to "stepping into a minefield" when we discuss religion. Maybe we've all seen someone get upset or defensive when he or she anticipates criticism about religious beliefs, which are so deeply a part of our personal identity. But today I think there is a vast need for discussion of religious beliefs and doctrines and practices. Behind the passionate defenses AND criticisms (the "minefield") voiced by Catholics, for example, on the pedophilia discussions, I cannot help seeing at least a little anguish, as people who had relied on the wisdom of priests all of their lives now find that they can no longer trust them, and others lash out at the disillusioned ones for abandoning the faith of their ancestors. Surely, there would be much "working out" of such feelings, but the process may culminate in some breakthroughs. Many in RCC talk about "healing"; I think more is needed, something like a new beginning. So I'd like to see some writing about religion and inviting people to react to fresh, young ideas. But whatever you choose to write about in the New Year, Megan, have a great Year--everyone else too!
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jamieLM | Jan 05, 2011, 10:05 AM EST
That would be "criticizing."
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jamieLM | Jan 05, 2011, 10:03 AM EST
Many people tend to become quite defensive about their religion when they perceive someone is being critical of it. It's as if someone is critizing them personally. Some of us have the attitude that "I can be critical of my religion, but no one else better be." It's often difficult to be objective when discussing one's religion. Often our traditions are so ingrained in us that we can't imagine doing or thinking any other way. "We've always done it that way - it must be right." There is so much misunderstanding and misinformation about different religions, including Christianity - between Catholics and the many different Protestant sects. I believe one should always go to the source for an explanation. To understand Judaism, one should ask Jews - not Christians - for information. Like Protestants, there are different Jewish sects. "One size does not fit all." Thanks to Sept. 11, Afghanistan, and the proposed Islamic center in NYC, Islam is a "negative" for many Americans. Your idea is a good one, Megan, but it's like stepping into a minefield. Most posters on IC are either Christians or non-believers, so I'm not sure how much diversity you'll get in regard to other religions - probably more of everyone's personal interpretation of Catholicism, Protestantism, and atheism. Anyway, I look forward to your future blogs. Good luck and Happy New Year!
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eiriamach | Jan 04, 2011, 04:01 AM EST
Even when few words are said, talking about religion can reveal much about people's lives. I was visiting a friend one evening during Ramadan before the breaking of the day's fast. Her husband was praying in another room. She had converted to Islam when she married. Watching her at work in the kitchen, I asked her, "What is the spiritual life of a Muslim woman like?" She stopped pouring the olive oil and simply stared at me for several seconds. Finally she said, "Men pray; women cook--that's Islam." The different roles for men and women in religions are fascinating, and sometimes more than a little distressing.
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jacersagain | Jan 03, 2011, 01:52 PM EST
BTW – as sources of elucidation and interest ahead of Megan’s blogs, some may like to visit punch dot com (geddit right, as ICentral doesn’t allow web addresses to be posted; shame that, it would be much easier for all of us posters): it's an Australian website which claims to be “Australia’s best conversation” piece and which includes religion amongst its topics. If you look at the right side of its pages, there are links to other Australian and UK newspaper sites which also debate religion extensively with contributions by many distinguished people of faith and none. Both Australia and the UK have many Irish and people of Irish origin who partake in these conversations. Another interesting site is cardinalpole dot blogspot dot com (he’s not a cardinal btw!). Enjoy researching all the religious topics; I for one will look forward to your blogs and their follow-on chats! Happy New Year to you Megan and all who are dear to you.
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jacersagain | Jan 03, 2011, 01:46 PM EST
I think that’s a great idea Megan! By all means let’s have conversations on the topic. Despite what people like Towngate (don’t) believe, most of us have a basis of belief in religion whether by upbringing, conversion or down-right-trodden fear into it. Few, like the living saints, are blessed with outright belief or conviction. I, after many years of doubt, simply believe in, hope in, trust in and love Jesus Christ – but not enough it seems.... So I’ll converse on it when I can or feel have something to contribute. The recent attack on Coptic Christians after Mass in Alexandria, Egypt, (a branch of Christianity which btw many believe to be the one that holds straight tight to the beginnings of Christianity – even babies receive Holy Communion) highlights for me what we as Christians should be sitting up, taking note of and chatting about.
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