Irelands Census 2011 and Catholicism - the demise of organized religion in Ireland
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Read more: The Irish are fast losing their religion say experts
On Sunday, 10th April the people of Ireland will fill in their census forms under wildly different circumstances than when they last did so in 2006. But aside from the inevitable stark figures surrounding employment and the people who’ve had to leave the country to get it, there is another question that will also speak volumes: the question on religion.
Apart from the usual campaigns to get Jedi Knight or Pastafarianism officially on the books, or this year in particular augment the number of people who claim no religion, this year’s religion statistics will be a crucial chapter in an intriguing story.
In 1981, when priests were still more feared than the guards, the percentage of Roman Catholic people in Ireland was 93%. In 1991, a couple of years before my first communion, the figure was 91.6%. By 2002, around the time our school chaplain conducted our catechism-heavy Leaving Cert religion class, that was down to 88.4% and by 2006 it was down again to 86.8%. Now granted, the physical numbers of people self-identifying as Catholic has actually gone up along with the population, but that may be coming to an end.
First of all, in the same thirty year stretch that self-identifying Catholics went down by 6%, the amount of people claiming no religion quadrupled. Secondly, what the figures don’t account for is the amount of nominal Catholics, those who go to mass at Easter or Christmas and other such events but otherwise wouldn’t attend religiously. As it were. It’s those people that will likely signal a watershed moment in Irish life. For while the changes in Ireland’s economic structure have been noisy and tumultuous, a much more quiet social revolution has been building steam over the last few years, and it’ll come to a head soon.
Back in 2006, I wouldn’t have dreamt of putting down anything other than Roman Catholic on the census form. Now, there’s no way in Hades I’d tick that box. In 2006 I was happy to belong to the broad church, as it were, comfortable with the idea that mass was the way I demonstrated faith even if I personally disagreed with large swathes of Catholic doctrine, focusing more on the spirit rather than the letter of the law. Five years later, a combination of the deplorable revelations of the Murphy and Ryan reports and general exasperation at the Church’s increasingly insane intransigence eventually made me give up. I’m hardly the only one.
If as I suspect the number of people identifying as Catholics drops quite sharply in this census (or indeed the one after) that in itself will be significant, but more significant still will be the way that bears out in real life. A great many social events in Ireland still revolve around the Church, like baptisms, communions and confirmations. A lot of people who aren’t ardent mass-goers still attend these events, either through social convention, a residual sense of duty, keeping up appearances or just wanting a quiet life. More and more, they’re treated as pageants with an hour-long sit surrounded by stained glass attached anyway. Priests may disapprove of that, but so weak is their bargaining position nowadays, they can hardly turn down the business. But what happens when people eventually decide they won’t go through the pseudo-religious motions anymore, especially people of my generation who’ll likely be having the majority of their kids in the next decade or so? That answer to the question will depend on education.
The Church doesn’t just hold a lot of the cards in terms of social functions; it also controls the vast, vast majority of primary school administration. If you apply to be a teacher in a primary school a priest will be on the interviewing panel, and if you want to send your child to that school then communion and confirmation prep will form a large proportion of their second and sixth class, with a healthy dose of religion thrown in all the other years. If you’re not comfortable with that, your options aren’t exactly extensive.
In certain situations the Church seem willing to relinquish that control and if they do, like the census figures themselves, the attendance at religious rituals not really adhered to will slide gradually but noticeably, as indeed is proper. But if the Church doesn’t move quickly enough, or far enough, then a new generation of non-believers who have no allegiance to Catholicism, aren’t afraid to say as much and not inclined to pass it on will not be slow to question the absurdity of the status quo. The census on the 10th April is, in one form or another, likely to prompt a High Noon that’s been a long time coming. Thank God for that.
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Barry | Mar 10, 2012, 12:46 PM EST
I agree with JohnTobin - this is Catholic Church bashing and the author is obviously biased. His whole article is based on the premise that the decline in religious observance is a good thing. But why? As for the abuse scandals in the Church: nobody can deny the awfulness of what went on but this doesn't mean all priests are paedophiles. And, if you ask me, a lot of Catholics nowadays are only using the abuse issue as an excuse not to go to Mass and follow the Church's teachings, which require a little discipline and self-control - qualities lacking in many younger Irish people nowadays. And, by the way, I'm not a regular Mass-goer myself, but I still realise that religion and spirituality have a role to play in life.
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ciaradexy | Jan 14, 2012, 09:52 AM EST
John, this isnt catholic church bashing. This is just how it is in ireland. Irish people are thinking for themselves and are realising that religion and God is an elaborate hoax.
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JOHNTOBIN | Jul 12, 2011, 06:34 AM EDT
It gets rather tiresome this continual bashing of the Catholic Church and Faith bv Irish Central.
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jacersagain | Apr 14, 2011, 08:39 PM EDT
@RedBranch – Thank you for kind invite to climb the Reek but, nah, I don’t think so for this year. I might go to Glastonbury, UK this summer... The Glastonbury Pilgrimage has been cancelled by the organisers for this year on the grounds that it will be too expensive – petrol, gas or diesel-wise – for anyone to undertake it. I hope to prove them wrong, even if I have to hire a donkey or walk it. Seewww(dot)glastonburypilgrimage(dot)cim – (pardon deliberate mistypos). Read all the links on the site for fascinating info and stuff! All faiths and none welcome in Glastonbury. Do visit the website - and Glastonbury!
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jacersagain | Apr 14, 2011, 08:33 PM EDT
@RedBranch – Thank you for kind invite to climb the Reek but nah, I don’t think so for this year. I might go to Glastonbury, UK... The Glastonbury Pilgrimage has been cancelled by the organisers for this year on the grounds that it will be too expensive – petrol, gas or diesel-wise – for anyone to undertake it. I hope to prove them wrong, even if I have to hire a donkey. See www(dot)glastonburypilgrimage(dot)com – read all the links for fascinating info and stuff. It's tradition is about 2000 yrs old. All faiths and none are welcome in Glastonbury - even druidic.
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jacersagain | Apr 14, 2011, 08:01 PM EDT
jamieLM should know, if he/she ever read even snatches of religious history, that recognition of a Superior Being by the earliest of humans was the beginning of true religion (Sun-god, Moon-god, Earth god, Totem god, Buddha god – always a ‘God’, a Superior Entity above humans and animals). Abraham and Moses were the most prominently historical people to encounter God directly. From their sect of religion (Jews), Jesus Christ emerged as the Son of God, the Messiah - the Saviour - promised by God to the Jews and, through them, to all mankind. From the Son of God emerged the one, catholic, universal, true religion. After Abraham, Moses and Christ there came the founders of all false religions thereafter – Islam, Mormon etc. There is only ONE true religion, that given by God directly to us all on planet Earth, through the birth of His Son – one, true, holy, catholic and apostolic church. If one chooses not to be part of that church, that is one’s right to choose - and to lose its immensely satisfying spiritual benefits. In the spirit of Christianity, I go tell you now that is the truth. Now I invite you to be apostolic and to go and tell everyone too that the Kingdom of God has arrived. And be a part of it.
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jamieLM | Apr 13, 2011, 10:34 AM EDT
Which religion doesn't think they are the "one true religion?" Every religion thinks that only THEY have the right to claim that title. The world is full of people who think they are members of the "one true religion" and that they have God, Buddha, whoever, on their side.
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RedBranch | Apr 12, 2011, 04:04 PM EDT
@jacersagain Good story ' amongst the ruins of Monasterboice'. For a similar experience, but with a human component, climb The Reek in July, that goes back 1000 years, perhaps more. See you there?
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Kilsally | Apr 12, 2011, 01:46 PM EDT
On a pedantic point - The Republic of Ireland census day is Sunday 10th April. The Northern Ireland census was the same as the other UK regions with census day on Sunday 28th March!
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Gearoid4 | Apr 12, 2011, 01:36 PM EDT
@unconvinced,
I have no intention of getting out of the Church that Christ founded. I don't need to be reminded of the grievous sins caused by some of her members in clerical garb. The first generation of apostles contained it's fair share of sinners whose various weaknesses were exposed at various stages e.g Paul was an ex-persecutor of Christians, Peter denied that he knew Our Lord 3 times after He was arrested. We are all in need of grace from above to overcome our sinful natures. The Church will experience purgation which will be painful and necessary.
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unconvinced | Apr 12, 2011, 08:57 AM EDT
Get out of the RC church , its taking you all to hell anyway
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mimimcd | Apr 06, 2011, 11:19 PM EDT
o'gollaher,
how does one get so mixed up on what true catholic ism really is? for those born after 1950 and/or have not been taught or shown what we're all about and the way our enemies have lulled most to sleep concerning the tenants of our faith, please...search out the encyclicals of the church for the soul-saving info they provide. go back to tradition..and you'll find everything you will ever need for living in todays world.
as for your comments regarding america...that's the problem over here...the only one, true religion that will save you was not what we were founded on. we were founded on freedom of religion and the il luminated 'god' within, which is the cause of the worlds demise, as history and the present show us.
without Gods' Grace...within His Traditional Church you cannot have true life within you and all that you attempt to build...whether within yourself or in a society is doomed to failure without Him guiding and sustaining you. most are prideful people and will not/can not agree with this fact and, as we know, pride is the ol' boys' favorite, most useful tool...it leads to so many other things.
please.... read anything prior to 1960. Pope Leo's words,experiences, and why the St. Michael prayer was developed. compare the traditional with the cur rent, it's an eye-opener and a journey that must be made.
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mimimcd | Apr 06, 2011, 10:03 PM EDT
hi jacer,
good to see a good catholic defending the faith...your recent post shows rightful charity concerning ecumanism. we have lots in common.. sometimes one must shout the truth from the rooftops to be heard over the lies and coverups disguising themselves as truth or wisdom...wolves in sheeps' clothing so to speak.
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mimimcd | Apr 06, 2011, 09:42 PM EDT
hi jacers,
nicee to see that you have the true catholic backbone when you need to defend our true religion from those who believe the muck coming from VII.. so why was it so hard for you to see that i was rightfully upset when prevented from stating catholic facts by those in charge of this site? i did not post www's, only info such as the ALTA VENDITA, FREEMASONRY, LA SALETTE, OR HOLY FAMILY MONASTERY FOR THOSE INTERESTED INFO LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE TRUTHS THAT HOLD US TOGETHER AND THE ENEMIES WE HAVE IN COMMON...IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHO YOUR ENEMIES ARE AND WHAT THE WAR GAME IS....HOW DO YOU RECOGNIZE AND PROTECT YOURSELF AND YOUR ETERNAL SOUL?
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