Is Barack Obama really Irish?
By: Tom Deignan | Published Tuesday, November 1, 2011, 7:15 PM | Updated Tuesday, November 1, 2011, 7:15 PM
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| President Obama received a hurley from Taoiseach (Prime Minister) Enda Kenny in Dublin last week |
President Obama’s whirlwind trip to Ireland last week created all sorts of goodwill, with commentators believing that positive ripples will be felt in politics, tourism, the cultural industry and more.
Then, all of a sudden, people weren’t feeling so happy and peppy.
“We were just useful props in president's whirlwind electioneering roadshow,” an online headline in the Irish Independent read.
According to the paper’s writer, Carol Hunt, “Obama desperately needs the white working class to believe that he's one of them to regain their support.”
In the U.K.’s Catholic Herald, columnist William Oddie dubbed Obama’s performance in Ireland “fraudulent,” adding, “So Obama was treading on potentially dangerous ground when he seemed to appropriate an Irishness of a kind that would actually induce (Catholic) Irish Americans to vote for him in large numbers.”
What? Say it ain’t so!
You don’t think Barack Obama -- in the end, a Chicago -- – would have certain political realities in mind when he takes a trip halfway around the world, do you?
The basic argument of Obama’s critics -- or critics of the people who loved the positive vibe of the trip -- is that he played to certain stage Irish stereotypes in order to line up Irish American/Catholic votes in 2012.
That line of thinking made it over to the U.S., where righter than-right Rush Limbaugh also questioned Obama’s motives.
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“We ought to start calling him Paddy Obama -- p-a-d-d-y, Paddy Obama, the Obama of Moneygall,” Limbaugh said.
“But even the U.K. Telegraph today has a fabulous story about how ridiculous it is Obama is trying to pass himself off as an Irish guy. And when he goes to Africa, he tries to pass himself off as a Kenyan.
“And if he goes to the Middle East he tries to pass himself off as Barack ‘al-Obama.’ And if he goes down to Selma he tries to pass himself off as a guy from down the street — totally disingenuous guy.”
Limbaugh then said, “It is a campaign stop for the Irish vote. The Irish vote in this country, particularly in New York City, is plentiful. And he’s got problems. His reelect numbers are down. This is nothing more than a campaign stop for the Irish vote.”
Except that, as Trina Vargo, head of the U.S.-Ireland Alliance argued in a Huffington Post column, “There is no 'Irish vote.' Irish-Americans are Democrats and Republicans, Catholics and Protestants, and there are no galvanizing issues around which a significant number of them rally.”
All of this just makes you shake your head. Probably the most disturbing aspect of this is the suggestion by the likes of Limbaugh, but also Oddie and Hunt, is that Obama isn’t a “real” Irish American, or that he exploited his meager Irish American roots for maximum political gain.
Obama can’t catch a break. He’s not a real American, he’s not a real Irishman, he, apparently, is not a real anything!
Let’s be honest here. It’s as if a guy with roots in Africa also can’t have “real” roots in Ireland.
But don’t forget, it’s not as if JFK’s dad was right off of the boat. If the diaspora has taught us anything it’s that -- like it or not -- our definition of what it means to be Irish American is ever-changing.
Indeed, at the heart of all of this is the deep question -- what does it mean to be Irish?
Consider what Oddie had to say, “No descendant of Irish Protestants in America joins in those overblown St Patrick’s Day parades, or describes themselves as Irish-American.”
I slightly understand what Oddie is saying, in the sense that when most people talk about the Irish in America, they refer to Catholics in Boston or Brooklyn.
That said, Oddie’s statement is patently false.
As for there being no Irish vote in the U.S., again, it is true the days of Tammany Hall are gone.
And yet, there’s no denying that the Catholic vote is at least significant. And, this being America, of course the number of 100% Irish fourth generation Americans is small.
But being Irish -- just as it is for Obama -- is an important part of their heritage. To deny that is to play a really tricky game about who is “allowed” to be Irish and who is not.
In the end, I can almost guarantee Obama is at least as Irish as a good chuck of the folks who, “overblown” as it may be, line Fifth Avenue every March 17.
Can Obama call himself Irish? Yes he can!
(Contact “Sidewalks” at tomdeignan@earthlink.net or facebook.com/tomdeignan)
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Switch to the desktop site to post a comment.STEVENSTAR | Apr 14, 2012, 11:01 AM EDT
NO HIS AMERICAN ALONG WITH ALL THE OTHER AMERICAN IDIOTS TRYING TO BE IRISH .. GET REAL!!
DrSheilahere | Nov 10, 2011, 10:09 AM EST
"Why I Hate Obama" and other observations of the worst president/man to enter the WH. And, I refuse to believe he is Irish! http://contributor.yahoo.com/user/1017868/sheila_dunnells_phd.html read; forward.
Springfield9 | Aug 04, 2011, 10:00 AM EDT
Do a DNA test ....... there's the answer. If it's done in Chicago he will come up as Native American Irish Eskimo Polish.
Philaromancatho | Jun 04, 2011, 10:33 AM EDT
Obama is poop.
djroche | Jun 03, 2011, 11:02 PM EDT
Like most Americans he is a little bit of everything that is what we are all about he had my vote & will have it in 2012 Good God how would you like to be the one to clean up george bush's poop
JBRAFTREE | Jun 03, 2011, 01:12 PM EDT
Yes, Chesapeake, but we can spell>>>>
phearne | Jun 03, 2011, 12:03 PM EDT
One more comment then I will hush for the day.I am Choctaw,Irish and English and have the family history to prove it.We also have Cherokee blood somewhere down the line but I don't claim it because I don't have any proof.What I can prove is I am and American with a mix of nationalities that doesn't change with whom I am talking to or where I am visiting.I have a birth certificate to prove I was born in the the U.S.and I wonder why our presidents birth certificate is such a closely guarded secret?
phearne | Jun 03, 2011, 11:56 AM EDT
President Obama is what most presidents and leaders of a country all are,no better and not much worse."What ever and whomever they need to be to get re-elected." I have seen few deviations from this practice in the last fifty years and I doubt there will be any changes in the next fifty,because the candidates who don't follow this policy don't get elected.Obama doesn't seem to be able to do this without looking a bit of a pretender. He claims to be part Irish,part African American,part English,part Caucasian, and who knows what other part will be revealed. Apparently it depends on the country he is visiting.I find it surprising he hasn't claimed to have Native American ancestry.I suppose that's because he seems to ignore the plight of the American Indian.The true original Americans. I'm just saying!
chesapeake | Jun 03, 2011, 10:44 AM EDT
To conside Obama to be Irish flies in the face of reason. Then, again, a liberal is only impreased by another libera; and most of your contributor are as far left as you can get.
mrkennedy | Jun 03, 2011, 09:50 AM EDT
A member of my family came over from Germany in the last half of the 1800's. Am I German or am I an American who served in the U.S.Navy in WW11 & the Korean War and proud to be an American!!!!!!!!!!
micky74007 | Jun 03, 2011, 07:03 AM EDT
If anyone in Ireland reads these comments you might have had an inkling of what a jerk this guy is. He might as well be Irish; he won't admit he's African. And we all know at heart, he isn't an American. I'm surprised he didn't claim to be Polish, too. After all, he says he's from Chicago.
OmahaSeamus | Jun 03, 2011, 06:52 AM EDT
Why won't he produce an Irish birth certificate for his ancestor, Falmouth Kearney? Was Falmouth Kearney born in Kenya too?
Niamhaine | Jun 03, 2011, 05:05 AM EDT
Manhattan, unfortunately your nephew bore the brunt of "those who have gone before". The lack of open-mindedness and geniality of those Irish-Americans pouring off the tour bus can be mind-boggling at times. I sit quietly and bow my head in shame at the ones loudly proclaiming to an Irish person "You people.....(fill in your own obnoxious comment)" or "I know it's not my country, but...( again,fill in your own obnoxious comment)". They are right- it's not their country and they know nothing about the Irish people but what they've heard from some uneducated Irish American's comments in some US pub, so how about they shut the hell up!
roibaird | Jun 03, 2011, 12:37 AM EDT
Mr Obama IRISH??????????He is not as Irish as Paddy's pig! Did he ever make a statement on his being Irish during his pre election days? Very interesting!probably will never ever be Irish again cept on Paddys Day
John5319 | Jun 02, 2011, 10:00 PM EDT
If Obama wanted the Irish or Catholic vote don't ya think that he would KNOW what the 10th commandment says "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's goods" !! Yet his has confiscated them by the Billions to pay off his cronies at the Unions, the Autos companies GM & Chrysler, insurance giant AIG, and even "bailout" the EU bankers of Germany, England, France, Greece, and Spain with "the people's" future income earnings. Furthermore, he has abused the future earnings of at least 2 generations of Children and by HIS government BORROWED deficit spending !! He IS A Child molester, in the cloak of an Evil impostor.
DaithiSuibhne | Jun 02, 2011, 09:58 PM EDT
ah to be shure,he's as Irish as me Chinese made gutties.
McNamara31 | Jun 02, 2011, 09:02 PM EDT
irishgenebuf Well said and true!
peterson | Jun 02, 2011, 08:54 PM EDT
He was puting a show like he does every where else.
Gearoid4 | Jun 02, 2011, 07:39 PM EDT
Of course Obama was mindful of the swing voters back home as he supped on that frothy pint or held that hurley in his hand for the cameras. He won't be the first or last US president to play upon their 'Irish' roots however slight. It has become almost like a pilgrimage for presidents to sally forth across the Atlantic brine to meet long-lost distant relatives dug up by indefatigable genealogists. Remember Ronnie in Ballyporeen? But we also must be mindful of the genuine links that exist between Ireland and the US in terms of a couple of hundred years of history, values and shared bloodlines.
irishgenebuf | Jun 02, 2011, 07:30 PM EDT
President Obama has an Irish ancestor. If he had gone to England without stopping in Ireland you negative ones would be bitching about that, too. He is a polite person who returned the warmth that the Irish extended to him. He would never stoop to the negativity I see on this message board. If you negative ones are the best that Ireland and Irish-in-America have to offer, it is good that he has African blood to offset the Irish part! Take that!
cillowen | Jun 02, 2011, 07:29 PM EDT
he's all things to all people - did you not hear him expressing a brit ancestry - and well he might with the fawning that went down over their queenie.
OBPiper | Jun 02, 2011, 06:44 PM EDT
What does a right-wing drug addicted political extremist of German descent (other than an Hussian occupier) know of Ireland?!? This is just another example of right-wing junk science. Of course, a person of African descent can also be of Irish and even other descents simultaneously. You stooped low to give this inarticulate pompous ass a forum.
morganink | Jun 02, 2011, 06:33 PM EDT
How sad to give the likes of Rush Limbaugh so much space. Your rebuttal was on point, but came after rather a lot of bluster. If you deny Obama any claim to being Irish, you miss the obvious mix of genealogies and ethnic heritage that characterize many Americans. And rather a lot of the "Irish" who make the news would have to surrender that claim, as well.
pounder | Jun 02, 2011, 06:00 PM EDT
NO HE CANNOT!
pilib04 | Jun 02, 2011, 05:42 PM EDT
Ahem, "Is Barack Obama really Irish?" Talk about misleading headline. Not one sentence about disproving President Obama's Irish Pedigree. Just another Irish Voice misleading headline.
whiteycat | Jun 02, 2011, 02:14 PM EDT
I am glad to see that by the writers here that most of the folks reading here also know Obama dfor what he is.A Politician first last and always.
Dompedro | Jun 02, 2011, 02:11 PM EDT
trying to recall the last election we had for President of the U.S.A. Tempus fugit. I don't recall anyone running to become the 1/16th (or less; how many "greats"go before the "grand" ?) Irish Prez. I don't recall anyone running to become the half white Prez. I don't recall the present occupier of the White House ever referring to himself as the White president.
whiteycat | Jun 02, 2011, 02:07 PM EDT
Even more important than obamas irishness, or anything else pertaining to him, Whatever happened to that DOG who was mistakenly or cruelly condemned? Now that is worth knowing.
Springfield9 | Jun 02, 2011, 12:58 PM EDT
Have they made him "The O'Bama Mor"? Is he the name chief? I haven't checked.
Springfield9 | Jun 02, 2011, 12:54 PM EDT
Don't be so fast to write off the 100% Irish Americans. For years the children were taught "Keep with your own". This meant that a Kelly married a Mc Bride, Reilly, Sullivan, etc. The Irish Project on FTDNA has rolls of people who are DNA classified as Irish out to 111 genetic markers. A friend from Armagh won't take the test because he might fail! The 100% I/As just don't wear a button.
joanxis | Jun 02, 2011, 12:34 PM EDT
Jamie M, I totally agree with every thing you said. Also, I have predominantly Irish ancestry - both Catholic and Protestant - but also have Scots, English, Welch, French Hugenot, and Dutch. I'm proud of all of my ancestry, but for some reason I identify the most with my Irish ancestry. Oh and irishbob, all politicians exploit whatever they can to garner votes, not just Obama.
manhattan | Jun 02, 2011, 12:30 PM EDT
Here we go again. I don't care if Obama has Irish ancestors or not. My argument is with the Irish who make nasty remarks about Irish Americans who call themselves that. I'm sick of us being put down by moron's who don't know a damn thing about us . My nephew, a New York City fireman who survived 9/11 visited Ireland. He was in a pub in Dublin and when they heard his american accent they went ballistic and spewed anti american garbage at him. Yet they love Obama, OK fine he is american right? Explain please the love for him and the abuse of Irish Americans.
DaveyBoy | Jun 02, 2011, 12:28 PM EDT
Obama is no more Irish than a pint of german beer is. he cannot make up his mind who he is i didnt vote for him and never will he is a foreigner who somehow got into office and has lied his way through and is trying to use some phony info to give himself credibility
OldSarge | Jun 02, 2011, 12:26 PM EDT
God loves the Irish, that's why he made so many of us. You'll find that Obama will talk up his Irish side as long as it is a benefit at the polls. If re-elected, or better turned out of office, he'll forget the Irish quick fast and in a hurry.
hyattsville | Jun 02, 2011, 12:10 PM EDT
Oh get over yourselves. You are completely delusional if you think that elections are won solely by claiming Irish ancestry! Barack Obama was democratically elected to U.S. President before Irish genealogists eagerly sought him out.
Phaenius | Jun 02, 2011, 11:57 AM EDT
Antoman, the left handed hurley is due to the fact, perhaps, to a little discussed Irish attention to detal, in this case, their knowledge that Obama is, indeed, a south paw. Maybe he can relate to the left handed Benjamites of the Bible as well...making him Jewish. And to the others, please be nice to Limbaugh, he aproximates what is right in our political speech in America. The true American practical definition of Liberty, being actually a subset of absolute freedom, is the freedom to do that which is right, and to the true Christian/and knowledgable Hebrews, that which is right in the sight of the God of the Bible.
jdi2269 | Jun 02, 2011, 11:31 AM EDT
YOU FORGOT TO MENTION THAT THIS WEEK OBAMA SAYS HE HAS GERMAN ROOTS!
carrickcourt | Jun 02, 2011, 11:25 AM EDT
Russ Who? Who cares if President O'Bama is about 1/16 Irish. I am 1/2 Irish on my Dad's side and about 1/100 Irish on my Mom's side but consider myself Irish American so the President has a right to call himself Irish American too.
MotherIrish | Jun 02, 2011, 11:12 AM EDT
Obama is much more Kenyan that Irish. Gr, Gr, Gr Grandfather - his Irish blood is so diluted as to barely be there. You Irish (and I am one, my dad came from Ireland) are so enamoured with having presidents of the US having Irish ties. He is not even shirt tail, more like a broken shirt tail thread that has frayed. Common people be real. He is nothing more than an American citizen who happens to follow the tenants of lying Chicago politicians. Get over it!!
suzandpej | Jun 02, 2011, 10:34 AM EDT
I was on here when he was in Ireland...trying to tell you that he is a phony. For Pete's Sake, people, he a Chicago politician! The Big Machine. Lying corrupt cheaters. Everybody knows that. He's NO different. Don't compare Sarah Palin to Obama..she is just crazy. Jamie..there are people who will vote again for him because they think he's "one of us". I am 1/2 Irish by ancestry, but in no slight manner would I claim to be the same as Obama. Your heritage is not important when being the President of the most powerful country in the world. What is important is this: Are you a statesman or a politician? There are no statesmen anymore. We're just left with evil, corrupt people.
irishbob | Jun 02, 2011, 10:28 AM EDT
Obama will be whomever his handlers say he is. Today it's Irish. Tomorrow it'll be African-Whatever. Slainte39 is correct, he will do and say whatever it takes. However, Sara Palin does not try to be anything but Sara Plain.
slainte39 | Jun 02, 2011, 10:20 AM EDT
"Obama is a propagandist and will do and say whatever it takes to gain points with the public". Like which politicians don't?...even Republican ones like Sara Palin does.
goldenblade | Jun 02, 2011, 10:14 AM EDT
What about the thousands of Americans who arrive on Ireland's shores every year bleating about how their great great grandaddy was from County Cork? And go back to America declaiming that they are "Irish"? Seems to be one rule for the "Irish American" (white ones, that is) and another rule for Barack Obama. Plus; half the so-called "Irish Americans" are part Polish, Italian, Dutch or whatever. Its part of the magic of the melting pot of America and something you should be proud of. The real "Americans" say nothing - do they get internet access in their reserves?
PhlutiePhan | Jun 02, 2011, 10:12 AM EDT
There is a common "tie" to the Irish and that is the Catholic Church, whether active or running away. Obama stands for nothing just like Bill Clinton with his Irish roots. I have lined Fifth Avenue for the last four years from the Midwest and St. Patrick himself a "former slave" stands for something which is "order and society and the family". "Wild Bill" and the "Big O" both surround themselves with radical feminists and support the non traditional family. Both believe in a society which allows all sorts of democratic abuses. The Irish are just one poor group of "stiffs" who are one more "means to an end" of this all-inclusive multi-ethnic society which will "plug into the new world order". It is called radical socialism. In the old days, there was a capital C involved.
shamrock99 | Jun 02, 2011, 09:52 AM EDT
Everyone is part Irish if one traces their lineage back to Adam and Eve. This is apparently what Obama has attempted to do.
Yeeeech | Jun 02, 2011, 09:50 AM EDT
Obama is a propagandist and will do and say whatever it takes to gain points with the public. His long term goal is a place in global politics. The current collapse of the American economy (as said by Reich, a Clinton Advisor) as a result of Obama policies is the reason he seeks praise everywhere else but the USA. Obama is imploding on the home front. See the front page of the Wall Street Journal, CNBC.
jamieLM | Jun 02, 2011, 09:49 AM EDT
The Am. voter either agrees or doesn't agree with Obama's policies and his vision of the role of the Federal govt. Where Obama traveled and how he celebrated his mixed ancestry will NOT be the criteria used by voters to judge whether he should be re-elected. From just the posters on IC, it's evident there is much disagreement on the issues between Catholics and those of Irish descent. Limbaugh's view that all Irish Catholics are of one mind-set, vote in one robotic block, and would vote for Obama just because they are "so flattered" over a brief visit to Ireland, is total B.S. and very insulting! "I don't have a job, I can't pay my bills, but Obama went to Ireland so he gets my vote." Oh, plesase... Limbaugh's view should be spelled i-d-i-o-t-i-c. Obama is a typical American: he has mixed ancestry. I also have mixed ancestry. Although predominatly of Irish descent, my other non-Irish ancestors are just as legitmate contributors to my heritage as the Irish ones. Like all of us who call ourselves "Americans" (with no hyphens) we, like Obama, have the right to acknowledge and celebrate ALL of our ancestral lines if we choose to do so. Btw: those of us not living in the East don't limit our thinking of the "Irish in America" as mainly those from Boston or Brooklyn. We know they're found all over the U.S. in large numbers.
IAPRINCESS | Jun 02, 2011, 09:46 AM EDT
I am sick to death of people who have such a low level of interest in life that they have to sit around wondering if someone is Irish. There are only two kinds of people in this world, my mother used to say, "Those who are Irish and those who wish they were Irish!" Get over picking on every little bit of news. It is boring!!!
stephendoyle | Jun 02, 2011, 09:43 AM EDT
Being Irish is a state of mind more than a location of birth...............
antoman | Jun 02, 2011, 09:12 AM EDT
Obama did'nt sip at his pint of Guinness.He tore into it,and arrived at the bottom of the glass in three gulps.According to a 19th century English encyclopedia britanica 'an Irishman is a complex mechainism for turning beer into urine'.Obama amply displayed this trait.I also notice from the picture accompanying this article that Obama was presented with a left handed hurley.
antoman | Jun 02, 2011, 08:27 AM EDT
This is a symptom of what is destroying American politics- nothing the other guy or "side" does is ever right, no idea of theirs has any merit, nothing they say has value and everything is politics- visit an area destroyed by storms? Politics, mind you if "their" president had done the same its due to his love and compassion for his fellow Americans. This attitude a strong and growing stronger everyday and it is reaching the point where nothing of substance ever gets discussed or accomplished because its more important to tear apart the other "guy" or party then actually govern.
manhattan | Jun 02, 2011, 08:06 AM EDT
I'm baffled by all the hoopala about Obama being Irish. Does his one great, great grandfather make you Irish? Yet the Irish in Ireland welcome him as a long lost relative. How come if our parents are from Ireland and we consider ourselves Irish American we are put down by native born Irish as we are Americans and shouldn't call ourselves Irish Americans? Hmmmm interesting.