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There are good priests and bishops in Ireland today - Naming three men who have made a major difference

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A truly pastoral church is what is needed in Ireland today, one responsive to the wishes of the people rather than a bureaucracy in Rome at the Vatican.

The church in Ireland has long been divided between the Celtic and Roman affiliations.

The Celtic church adherents stress the pastoral nature of the church, the need to be at one with their flock and deal with the problems that arise on the pastoral level. It is locally based and grounded.

That is the traditional message of the Irish church as first expressed by St. Patrick who brought the faith to Ireland.

Current Dublin Archbishop Diarmuid Martin recognized that reality soon after coming back from Ireland to Rome and focused on the core message of regaining the faith of those who had been abused and those appalled by that.

He took over from the dense philosopher Desmond Connell who was all at sea with the pastoral role and allowed the evildoers to run amok.

The Vatican did all in it power to cover up its scandals under Connell but Martin was having none of it.

He was a very determined Irishman. standing with the most vulnerable against the powerful, including many of his own colleagues.

He understands that what the average parishioner thinks, rather than what a Vatican Curia member wants to cover up is far more important in Ireland today with the church on its knees.

The former Bishop of Killaoe in Clare, Willie Walsh was a similar figure, one who came down from the ivory tower and who confessed openly to doubts about his faith but who strove at all times to be human and caring.

Another one, Father Iggy O'Donovan, is one of the finest priests I have known.

He officiated at my mother's funeral mass and is a long time friend of my family.

He loves to call a spade a spade as he did when recently speaking to the Drogheda Independent.

When the issue of seal of the confessional came up Iggy was typically direct.

‘ There was a huge issue made of a report that priests may now have to report things told in the confession box but everyone seems to have ignored the obvious, people hardly go to confession anymore,’ he stated.

‘ Who will be impacted by this proposed rule, very few, believe me,’ he continued.

As to the ramifications of the report from Cloyne into the church's malfeasance Iggy calls a spade a spade

He feels the latest report into the Church and its handling of abuse is more serious than all the rest.

‘I don’t think it’s finished yet and I speak for myself when I wonder am I part of an inept and incompetent institution.

‘People have been saying to me how can all this have happened and I know it will hit mass numbers more.’

"However, the damning part is that the Church did not keep to its own guidelines, never mind the State.

‘Did we forget that abusing a child is wrong, no matter about guidelines?’

‘All that seems like another world when you read the likes of the Cloyne Report,’ he stated

‘There was blind loyalty to the institution and the need to avoid a scandal at all costs. The irony is that all that caused an even bigger scandal and the hierarchy now has an incredible lack of street credibility’.

His belief is that the Church is on borrowed time.

‘You could say it’s a bit like Fianna Fail (Formerly Ireland's main political party almost wiped out in last election over scandals) . It’s a culmination of things that led to a backlash. I fear the Church will be hit by one report too many.

‘My feeling is sadness, most of all for those that suffered. The cover ups were the biggest sins of all.’

Iggy knows what the Watergate conspirators knew and the Vatican can never seem to learn-- its the cover up stupid.

If the church in Ireland had more men like Donovan, Martin and Walsh it would all look very different.


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It's time to ask Rome to leave and for Ireland to form a truly Irish Catholic Church. The French did it long ago, the Italians just ignore the Vatican, and someday I would hope the American Church would wake up. "Absolute Monarchs" by John Julius Norwich should be on every thinking Catholics night stand. The Council of Whitby which marginalized Celtic Christianity was one of Rome's greatest sins.
The Vatican has failed to realize there any many victims of their actions. First and foremost were the actual innocent victims, then there were the faithful who were literally blow away with these disclosures, then there were the good and faithful clergy who had to do a job made significantly harder by this leadership or lack of it. And last there was the legacy as I have said many times before, of those emigrants who left Ireland and built churches and schools around the world. In yesterday’s NYT a column stated that the Catholic Church is presently in the greatest downsizing in history closing schools and churches with no thought of need rather with an eye on the resale price of the property. In the mist of this epic tragedy are the good and loyal followers of Christ’s message each day trying to make the world one bit better and we must not forget them as this travesty continues to reveal itself. I hope they realize as the world applauds Enda Kenny for being a clear voice who spoke truth to the Vatican he was also speaking in their behalf and as we respect Enda Kenny’s actions so do we respect and admire their actions as they do Gods work in these most difficult times.
The Celtic church was a mixed thing. At the time of the Reformation monasteries controlled by the Celtic Irish (within the Roman Catholic Church) were family-owned and corrupt. The monasteries run by the Old English (long resident Catholic families of English and Irish heritage but English in culture) were efficiently and virtuously run. Of course Henry suppressed all the monasteries, good and bad. Even Anne Bolyn, a goo two-sacrament Protestant,, was shocked when he suppressed the good monasteries.
It's time to drive the snakes out of Ireland, again. Big time. In the spirit of St Patrick. And on a more regular basis.
Have just read that NI Parole Board Commissioners have refused compassionate release for B.Lillis...?
"A truly pastoral church is what is needed in Ireland today, one responsive to the wishes of the people" - granted, the first part is true (if one has a proper understanding of "pastoral"), but this experiment was tried 400 years ago: it's called the Protestant "Reformation". Pandering to the wishes of the people, fleeting worldly trends and political correctness is the reason why we have 30,000 Christian denominations, each claiming to be right, though they cannot all possibly be. What followers of Christ need is the teaching of Christ - such teachings are not nullified by the majority vote of the people. Secondly, this article confuses the authentic role of the Catholic priest, which is to be Christ to others - "alter Christus" - with those who issue soundbytes and sweeping statements. The latter is most certainly not the mark of a good priest or bishop. We can all agree that abuse and cover up is wrong - we do not have to be Diarmuid Martin, Willie Walsh or Iggy O'Donovan to do so - however, when such persons proceed to descend into rants against the teachings of the Church, one can legitimately ask why they consider themselves Catholic at all. The Church in Ireland will recover only when we have priests who rediscover their true role as "alter Christus", when they become dispensers of authentic Catholic teaching, faith and tradition - otherwise, they are merely social workers in collars. For an interesting insight into Catholicism in Ireland today - and how it can recover - I recommend Prof. Mark Dooley's recently published book "Why be a Catholic?".
@Niall - you're absolutely right about that. The problem of course is that the many good men that are there have been conditioned to accept the de facto status quo of (blind)obedience and loyalty as the over-arching and all embracing template for their lives in ministry. What makes it even more sad is that so many feel that now in their 50s 60s and 70s, it is to late for them to change, even if they could. Mother church has done a good job on those men!!
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