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Please, let's keep political correctness out of Saint Patrick's Day -- Pressure mounts to make it about more than just the Irish in America

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NYPD Emerald Society marching band in the St Patrick's Day parade in New York (Chang Lee/New York Times)

Political correctness is making its move on St. Patrick’s Day I fear.

There were two articles over the weekend, one in The New York Times, the other The Irish Times, making the same point.

We need to be more inclusive and St. Patrick’s Day should become less Irish and more of an opportunity for all immigrants to celebrate.

To which I say, hooey.

Here are just two extracts.

This from Dr. James Flannery of Emory University in Atlanta in The Irish Times.

It was entitled "St Patrick's Day celebrates the role of all US migrants."

“My hope is that some day the celebration of St Patrick’s Day in Atlanta will become a genuine multicultural holiday, with every year a different ethnic group honored at the head of the parade.

“Imagine a St Patrick’s Day parade that, over time, included Chinese dragons, Mexican mariachi bands, Caribbean steel drummers and Korean acrobats, all marching alongside green-clad Irish pipers and step dancers.”
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I must mention that Jim Flannery is a dear friend of long standing, an inspirational figure in Ireland where he staged the Yeats Cycle of Plays at the Abbey Theater and introduced an unknown young composer called Bill Whelan later of “Riverdance” fame, to the world.

For decades he has been a bastion of Irish culture and influence in the south.

But on this occasion I respectfully disagree with him.

The second piece was in The New York Times with the same gist.

“This March 17, on this side of the water, we ought to be celebrating immigration, not just Irishness," writes the author Peter Behrens.

“It’s About Immigrants Not Irishness” was the title of the piece, which says it all.

It is suddenly becoming fashionable to recast the March 17th holiday as a one size fits all day that we can celebrate all immigrants.

But that is neither the history nor the intent of the day from time immemorial.

I embrace Martin Luther King Day for what it is, a celebration of an incredible American, who did for his risen people what no leader before him could do.

When you look at Barack Obama you know it could never have been possible without MLK.

I don’t want to interject an Irish element to Martin Luther King Day, as that would, frankly, be ridiculous.

It’s a day for African Americans to celebrate their success.

I feel the same about Puerto Rican Day here in New York and love the mariachi bands and the free and open atmosphere of their parade, so different to what we have on St. Patrick’s Day.

One year I remember the Grand Marshal was an Elvis impersonator -- that's not something you'll ever see on March 17th I assure you!

Good for them.

Equally, I don’t want to demand that we walk too in that parade, nor in the Israeli Day or the Polish Day or German Day parades that are such a feature of our American summers.

Some years back I went to the Chinese New Year parade in Chinatown. It was brilliant, exotic and different.

An Irish pipe band among the exploding firecrackers would have looked and sounded ridiculous.

The Irish have a right to their day too, the celebration of the rise from the coffin ships to the White House, the flowering of a culture and a history that has given much to this country.

I love that other nationalities love St. Patrick’s Day, that they clearly have a great day out of it too, that the streets are packed for the spring ritual that rivals Mardi Gras.

But let’s not have a multicultural Saint Patrick’s Day.

That defeats the very notion of what this country is all about “E Pluribus Unum,” from all, one, each separate but together as a nation.

So with due respect to Doctor Jim and the writer Mr. Behrens I say, let’s keep the Irish front and center on Saint Patrick’s Day.

Let's enjoy our different histories, not try and mesh them.


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There is a lot less political dysfunction in the 26 county Irish state than there is in the 6 county neo-provincial statelet of Northernised Ireland. Northernised Ireland is a net recipient of British proper (i.e. English/Welsh/Scottish) taxpayers revenue who are fed-up subsidising a post-colonial imperial ego-trip. The Glorious 12th. of July Celebrations, (St. Billy's Day?), are a thinly disguised tribal triumphalist celebration to assert racist sectarian supremacy. A coat-trailing exercise which the British proper view with profound embarrasment. Orangemen used to tutor their young Lambeg drummers: "Remember lads. Every time you beat the Lambeg drum, you're beating a Catholic. So go out there and put your backs into it!" Without the British subvention, Northernised Ireland is an economic wasteland. Maggie Thatcher once refused to pass on European regional infrastructural development funds to NI. When Ulster Unionists showed up at Westminister, she told them 'we' (i.e. the English) need that. So much for the Conservative and 'Unionist' (sic). Party.
In the States, St. Patrick's Day is a joyful day, and one of the few days without a lot of negative overtones, unless the obvious problem of some people "drinking too much green beer," is brought up! It's a day like Thanksgiving, when instead of making turkey, Americans have an excuse to make another totally American dish called, "Corned Beef and Cabbage," and by doing so, they think they are celebrating St. Patrick's Day as they do in Ireland! Fortunately for most, religion isn't even part of the picture. Catholics, Protestants and Atheists celebrate next to each other in pubs, in parks and at work (Americans don't get St. Patrick's Day off). In America it's like a mini-holiday to mark the end of a dreary winter, even though we need to attend work and school (there's usually a party afterwards or during the work day). No insult to the Irish, but "Long live St. Patrick's Day in America!" I simply love it!
Since I came from Ireland to live in the United States, I have been pleased and stimulated to be welcomed by Mexicans celebrating Cinco de Mayo, by blacks celebrating Juneteenth, by the Chinese celebrating their new year, and by Indians celebrating the festival of Holi. If any of these fine people waste their time wading through the frightened and insular comments here, I wish to say that not all Irish people are as dour as this lot, and that some of us are happy to see you celebrating Saint Patrick's Day, and we welcome your friendly participation. I am embarrassed by many of the people who share my ethnicity.
St. Patrick's Day is OUR DAY - other cultures get a month. It is a Holy Day and something all Irish blood can rally too. We do not need Korean, Siamese, Serbian, Greek, Russian or Puerto Rican enrichment. Flanery's inspired thinking may be the first signs of mental illness.
Georgie boy - who are you anyway? As I say, I'm out there for anyone who cares to check me out. It's a pity that a corner-boy fascist like you hasn' the guts to identify himself. But it's hardly surprising.
I'm truly surprised to see this article under Niall's byline. Niall, it is an accepted plank in the Left's agenda that the influences of Western Europeans, Christians, and Capitalists are inherently Evil, and must be either prohibited by law, or at least diluted out. This is clearly spelled out in Black Liberation Theology, as it is in the recently in-the-news Professor Derrick Bell's (Obama's college idol) "Critical Race Theory", as it is also in multiple Communist/Progressive anti-Western, anti-Imperialism screeds. To this end, the Left has a consistent goal to dilute our influence through open-borders immigration, anti-Christian court rulings, spending Western military force ONLY where it will not actually benefit "Oppressive Western Colonizers", and in general marginalizing what we stand for, value, and ARE. Niall, by raising your pen against this, by calling for the St Patrick's Day Parade to continue to involve the IRISH, you are engaging in CounterRevolutionary Thought and your article rises to the level of a Crime against all the disenfranchised proletarians of the world. In short, Niall, I am demanding that you turn in your Democrat Party USA membership card and papers. Also, some nice Korean gentlemen will be by this afternoon to take you to re-education camp.
Madeinri, in trying to squirm out of the huge faux pas he made in an earlier post, tells us that he considers all children born in Ireland to be Irish. He can consider what he likes, but the Irish people don't agree with him. It's not even a decade since they told Immigration lobbyists like madeinri to go to hell, when they voted 80% to deny automatic Irish citizenship to such children. I am sure madeinri was promoting his hate agenda during that plebiscite. The fact that almost a decade later he either does not know or does not respect the result of that plesbiscite shows him to be either a fool or a fascist, or more likely both. Go study Irish immigration law, madeinri, before you try to propagate your falsehoods to people who might take you seriously. But as long as you use this site to peddle your bigoted lies you'll have to deal with me.
Agree with Niall 100 per cent. Keeping us away from political correctness is what sets us apart from others who lean on it like a crutch. We are a much stronger people for not taking ourselves so seriously.
Poor old George, can't get anything right can you? I can state categorically that we will know how many immigrants there are in Ireland when the detailed census reports are published later this year. We don't have detailed data for intercensal periods and the situation will undoubtedly have changed since 2006, in the sense that there are far fewer immigrant here now (there were over 400,000 then, not a million. Second, you foolishing quote Conor Lenihan, probably the dimmest bulb in the worst government this country ever had, who could not produce a shred of evidence for this stupid comments about the census. The Irish census is accepted and respected as one of the more accurate in Europe. As for the point about children, you choose to misread my point, deliberately. I was not discussing citizenship law, which I know at least as well as you purport to, but simply making the point that I would regard someone born in Ireland and growing up here as Irish irrespective of their ethnic background. It's a pity trolls like you have nothing better to do than spew hatred, but it's typically of people like you, that you haven't even the guts to tell us your real name. Mine is out there, as anything who cares to google me can readily confirm. Hatred, hypocrisy and utter cowardice are not an attractive mix Georgie.
MadMaceinri is back with his customary mixture of bluster, abuse and ignorance. A month or two back this guy assured us he was an "expert" on migration. So let's test his expertise. First, he says he's an expert on immigration to Ireland, but he doesn't have an idea as to how many foreign migrants there are in Ireland! He was quick to insult (that's what he does) the other poster who had offered a ballpark figure, but he's too ignorant, or cowardly, to put forward any statistics of his own. Madeinri even tells us to look to the last Irish census, even though the Irish government minister responsible for migration affairs admitted that the census was unreliable! But it gets worse. This charlatan madeinri tells us he's an expert on immigration to Ireland, yet he doesn't even know Irish citizenship law. For he tells us that Irish law is similar to that in the US, when in fact it is quite different, following the change in the Irish constition passed almost a decade ago. A baby born to foreign parents in the US has American citizenship, you clown madeinri, but that is NOT the case in Ireland. Don't you even know the most basic facts about the field you claim expertise in? You're a charlatan, madeinri. Explain how come you don't know the basic facts of Irish immigration before you return with your stupid abuse and hate.
Dr Jim and Mr Behrens time would be better spent trying ti extract their heads out of their, well you know what I mean.
To make NYC's St. Patrick's Day parade a multi-cultural, multi-national, multi-racial, multi-everything else event would be defeating the parade's primany purpose, which is to comememorate Ireland's patrom saint and to celebrate all things Irish. I haven't participated in that great parade since the late 90s, but I march as a Legionnaire with my fellow veterans in an Upstate parade every Memorial Day. If draft-dodgers, pacifists, military deserters etc. were allowed to participate in our Memorial Day parade, it would nullify the parade's main purpose. When it comes to making St. Patrick's parade more inclusive, I certainly would welcome anyone of any denomination who has an Irish connection. For about 5 years in the 90s, I marched up 5th Avenue as a flag-beared, beside my wife who is a Methodist and her Presbyterian son from her first bmarriage. All Christian denominations in Ireland can claim St. Patrick as part of their heritage.
Looking forward to seeing the married GLB&transgenered, anti catholic,anti British, anti Protestant, Democratic Party float sponsored by IC in next year's parade.
I would have been disappointed if ol' Georgie Boy hadn't turned up again like a bad penny, innumerate as always. As it happens Georgie, Irish statistics on migrants are a good deal more accurate that, say, US ones. The data from the 2006 census are fairly accurate and the results of last year's census will be out towards the end of the year. Only a cretin would use PPSNs as a measurement; but then I rest my case on that point. As for the children of migants, born in Ireland, they as as Irish as I am, just as the children of Irish people in the US are American first and foremost.
I would like to see a few Sons of Ulster Flute bands and Battle of Boyne Bands marching down New York Fifth Avenue. After all its supposed to be both sides of the religious divide on view. After all is it 20 presidents of Irish descent 19 were protestant and 1 Catholic. So why is the protestant community never shown? Always the Green lot and never the Orange. Loyalist Flute Bands are Great.
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