44 Comments

• IrishAndProud | May 12, 2010, 07:03 PM EDT

  Boycotts of Arizona are irrelevant, and are falling apart. The groups behind them are abandoning the efforts...and just today a new poll came out showing 70 PERCENT SUPPORT for tougher immigration measures...in MASSACHUSSETTS. We've got 'em on the run. The pro-illegal minority is disintegrating.

• Monsoonman | Apr 30, 2010, 10:30 AM EDT

  I suppose the boycotters will still be able to sneak in over the border during the dead of night, lol! and and visit Sedona (stay at the skyranch lodge), Flagstaff, Bizby and walk the edge of the GC.

• Monsoonman | Apr 30, 2010, 10:27 AM EDT

  Funny thing though, I think the Grand Canyon will remain in place no matter how much Arizona is boycotted....Ah yes standing on the cliff edge of the GC, what a rush!

• DennisQ | Apr 30, 2010, 02:53 AM EDT

  Republicans can't help themselves, can they? Given an opportunity to pass a bigoted law, they couldn't hold back! The state depends on tourism, but this law ruins the state's image. Were you planning to watch the re-enactment of Wyatt Earp's shootout at the OK Corral in Tombstone? Maybe you'll go to Kansas instead.

• irishwxman | Apr 27, 2010, 06:19 PM EDT

  Thank you clonmel. At least SOMEONE read the bill. These liberal democrats seem to take an isse with readiing bills. they just assume.

• clonmel21 | Apr 27, 2010, 05:17 PM EDT

  Where on earth do you get your information? You say "The measure is so extreme, stopping and searching people on sight and demanding identification". Stopping people "on sight"? You are so off base with this. This law as with any requires some "REASONABLE SUSPICION" to stop. Get it straight and stop your bias.

• allentown | Apr 26, 2010, 08:36 PM EDT

  >>They are just taking back what is theirs to begin with and doing it peacefully << Since when is violating federal law and identity theft doing it peacefully?

• irishwxman | Apr 26, 2010, 06:44 PM EDT

  Obama couldn't even conceive of what a trap is, much less spring one. He is such a dolt. Jim and rpmschevy are SPOT on! Good posts lads.

• JimThompson | Apr 26, 2010, 04:15 PM EDT

  It is simply impossible to believe that the sheep citizens of the U. S. will accept any ideas of letting any illeal person decide that he is going to gain all the rights and privileges that Americans have fought for for centuries. It is a shame that politicians can play tricks with such an issue and use any ideas of restricting illegal aliens from entering or staying in the U. S.as a ploy to gain votes from Latinos.

• rpmschevy | Apr 26, 2010, 04:07 PM EDT

  "Americans are uneasy about illegal immigration". What? No we our mad. Fed up that the Feds will do nothing to protect us. Arizona rancher killed. Something needs to be done, it is the Fed's job to protect us citizens from invaders, if not we end up with militia's, which is worse.

• borefield | Apr 26, 2010, 03:24 PM EDT

  Obama lays so many sneaky traps one day he may very well get caught in one of his own. Illegal is illegal. Keep within the law of the land, enter the country legeally,you will not have to worry when asked for ID. Any foreign country I have ever visited I had to produce ID.and produce the necessary papers required to enter. Why is it wrong for the USA to require what other countries do. Why promote lawless behavior.

• rcrdskpr@aol.com | Apr 26, 2010, 02:01 PM EDT

  any legal immigrant should be outraged at allowing illegals in this country. they worked hard to become citizens, and now the village indiot inthe white house and his cronies want to legalize these thieves that broke into our country and are stealing our childrens birthright. if someone breaks into your house, you call the cops. well, the usa is my house. send the illegals back, wherever you find them.

• FastEddy | Apr 26, 2010, 01:05 PM EDT

  beachline: " Arizona's law does NOT allow "stopping and searching" on sight. It clearly states there must be probable cause. ..." Absolutely Correct. Further, "probable cause" can not simply be "they look strange" or "they fit the profile" ... but must consist of suspicious acts that may precipitate the breakage of the law ... like driving around in a gangster-mobile with guns locked and loaded.

• FastEddy | Apr 26, 2010, 12:59 PM EDT

  Joanhugh: " ... Remember Mexico owned most of the southwest in this country and we stole it from them in the Mexican War ..." Duh? Wrong! Make that "we bought it and paid for it in full!" (Gadsden Purchase, 1853) It was only after Mexicans troops crossed over the Arizona border to raid and pillage that the "Mexican War(s)" came about. FYI: Spanish Conquistadors and Mexican armies have killed more Native American's than all others combined. It may now be time to drive them back again.

• FastEddy | Apr 26, 2010, 12:51 PM EDT

  " ... a slashing attack on Arizona's draconian immigration law ..." Arizona law is not nearly as "draconian" as Mexico's own re: Mexico's neighbors further south ... same with Canada's immigration laws re: USA, Mexico and points south ... same with Italy (recently), Switzerland, Germany (recently) ... Australia & 'Zland, too. >>> Try a legal approach and welcome to you, brother, need a job? <<< Try to sneak in and break the law? Forget about it!

• ripley838 | Apr 26, 2010, 12:50 PM EDT

  The Republicans could have passed a bill requiring all Hispanics to wear a yellow six-pointed star, so we should all be grateful, I suppose.

• tom/peggy | Apr 26, 2010, 11:38 AM EDT

  We'll see how that trap works out next November.

• Joanhugh | Apr 26, 2010, 10:08 AM EDT

  Remember Mexico owned most of the southwest in this country and we stole it from them in the Mexican War. They are just taking back what is theirs to begin with and doing it peacefully.

• beachline | Apr 26, 2010, 09:59 AM EDT

  Niall, Arizona's law does NOT allow "stopping and searching" on sight. It clearly states there must be probable cause. Learn the FACTS about a subject before you write about it!!

• jmacroibin | Apr 26, 2010, 09:58 AM EDT

  I got a speeding ticket this weekend. Could you and Kelley start endorsing speed reform?

• Waterford | Apr 26, 2010, 09:07 AM EDT

  Slap big fines on employers hiring illegal immigrants and that will solve a lot of the illegal immigration problem. My Canadian friend had to show her Green Card to get hired apparently few are checking that sort of thing. Stop hiring them and most will not come here.

• chesapeake | Apr 26, 2010, 08:31 AM EDT

  States' Rights are very important; and difficult to countermand. Look for other border states to follow with similar programs. The only way that they can be overturned is, eventually. by the Supreme Court. Remember, we are not talking about American citizens or green card immigrants; and, unless they go to Mexico and attempt to cross the border, we are not talking about the Irish.

• IrishAndProud | Apr 26, 2010, 03:35 AM EDT

  Oh, and yes...everyone just ignore that 70% support this law gets from Arizonans...and the majority sentiment against more illegal aliens; those are only my hallucinations, you're seeing. I'll try to keep those in check, some more. Maybe I can just will them away, if I focus enough...(grh...ugh...cough cough...)

• IrishAndProud | Apr 26, 2010, 01:45 AM EDT

  You said it, ealwins. Oh, and 'really'...sorry, doesn't sound like you're laughing. And btw I don't smoke (weed is generally for libs, if I'm not mistaken). I only live in the here and now, and side with the American majority (I notice you didn't try to dispute the facts again...you're still stuck in respons mode, and clearly irritated, to no end). I'm REAAAALLY bugging you, aren't I?

• erlwins | Apr 25, 2010, 11:28 PM EDT

  I think it should have been a law passed 20 years ago. all over the whole country. If it had have been we would been the shape we are in now with untold millions getting a free living off our tax dollars and high crime rate

• RealIrish2010 | Apr 25, 2010, 10:32 PM EDT

  What are you smoking boy? Not only are you a disgrace to the Irish, but to your own country, YOU make us laugh!!!

• IrishAndProud | Apr 25, 2010, 08:01 PM EDT

  (continued)...and with 70% of Arizonans supporting this new law and the Dems on the ropes politically...the walls are closing in on you...

• IrishAndProud | Apr 25, 2010, 08:00 PM EDT

  Re: 'ReallyIrish2010's comment, below: YEEEEESSS! I got 'em again! HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA...I am SO BUGGING these left wing phonies, because they keep looping back to the same old tactics...'you're not really Irish if you're not liberal or pro-illegal' blah, blah, blah....HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA...what a 'comeback'...and this coming from a Thatcherite Englishman who has to 'one up' MY onscreen name by adding the word 'really.' You're in response mode, kiddo...we've got you on the run...

• Monsoonman | Apr 25, 2010, 12:54 PM EDT

  Take a look behind the curtain and see what populates the chiefs of police association, it isn't pretty. It is a political organization when it is at that level. They don't represent the citizens rights and welfare, they represent their own welfare.

• McNamara31 | Apr 25, 2010, 11:15 AM EDT

  The Arizona Association of Chiefs of Police has sharply criticized the legislation: "The provisions of the bill remain problematic and will negatively affect the ability of law enforcement agencies across the state to fulfill their many responsibilities in a timely manner." They further state, they support "solutions that are fair, logical, and equitable.

• McNabb1966 | Apr 25, 2010, 10:48 AM EDT

  At most I'd give Obama credit for being opportunistic in taking advantage of a situation that has been caused the Federal government's deliberate failure to deal with the problem of illegal immigration. So he's a talented EXPLOITER...but a "well-laid trap?" lol Yeah, whatever...

• TaranOconner | Apr 25, 2010, 12:11 AM EDT

  Niall, do you ever READ the (Real AP Newspaper) reports on these laws? Arizona's law does NOT allow 'stopping and searching people on sight' for NO good reason. The Governor insists there must be a Probable Cause to believe someone is an Illegal Immigrant. Most likely during a routine Traffic Stop in my opinion. Monsoonman is mostly correct in his assesment of how the Arizona Law will work. BE LEGAL or BEGONE, doesn't matter if you're Irish, Mexican, or whatever!

• RealIrish2010 | Apr 24, 2010, 09:45 PM EDT

  Irish and Proud, good to see you again, we thought we'd lost you , or would we be that lucky...lol. I Thought we decided you were to get the "Irish" out of your Fake username...We're waiting for you on the other thread.. ;)

• IrishAndProud | Apr 24, 2010, 07:46 PM EDT

  Ajreaper, that's an irrelevant matter, that pro-illegals like yourself keep falling back on because you cannot debate the topic at hand. Illegal aliens HAVE NO BUSINESS in the USA...and you are attempting to excuse their presence by bringing up stuff that happened a hundred and fifty years ago. If you're a non-indigenous American yourself, why don't you follow your own advice and go back to your ancestors' lands? Otherwise, either stick with the subject here, or kiss off.

• Ajreaper | Apr 24, 2010, 07:35 PM EDT

  Devlino your an idiot plain and simple- what we need to do is deport jack asses like yourself. The only "real" Americans are American Indians beyond that we are all immigrants and the son's and daughters of immigrants who couldn't make it in their own countries to include your family.

• IrishAndProud | Apr 24, 2010, 06:27 PM EDT

  Agreed, Devlino...Niall and the rest of the pro-illegal crowd are the deluded ones. They always seem to 'miss' (or perhaps even more foolishly IGNORE) the fact that the vast majority of REAL Americans want illegal entry STOPPED...and if they want to continue pretending otherwise, they're only adding to their already staggering woes, this November.

• Devlino | Apr 24, 2010, 03:46 PM EDT

  Actually it is the Democrats who have fallen into a trap. Most Americans - by which I mean people actually born in this country and not losers who had come to the United States because they could not make it in their own countries - are against immigration. Hispanic immigration - if not stopped - will turn the United States into a hell-hole like Mexico and the rest of Latin America.

• Monsoonman | Apr 24, 2010, 11:57 AM EDT

  You people don't have a clue to what it's like in the southwest USA. Hispanics have been here for generations, they are strong patriotic US citizens. They have as much to lose being flooded with illegals as every other US citizen does, there will be no profiling. But there will be reason to ask for id's for many reasons, including loitering. Also I have met plenty of red haired blue eyed Mexicans, thanks to our irish presence south of the border for many generations...lol!!!

• johnozed | Apr 24, 2010, 11:31 AM EDT

  I think a 'broken tail light' or any fabricated reason will be a reason for the police to pull over a brown skinned person. Any particular reason at all whether true or false will be used. There will be profiling, if not widespread, and it will affect legal US citizens.

• Ajreaper | Apr 24, 2010, 11:12 AM EDT

  There will not be wholesale profiling? Of course not if your white you have nothing to worry about however if you look hispanic or speak Spanish well then there's cause. So what this new law says is what other laws already say so I guess this must be a case of "No, we really, really mean it this time" law. Laws already on the books address everything this "new" one does only a fool thinks it'll change anything.

• Monsoonman | Apr 24, 2010, 10:45 AM EDT

  The majority of the guns in Mexico, DO NOT come from the US, it is a false story.

• sweetypie | Apr 24, 2010, 07:54 AM EDT

  Latinos have always been in the Democratic party ranks...extreme measures must be taken to strengthen our own security. The AZ law still requires that there must be a reason for any stop or search; there will not be wholesale profiling.

• jennyVT | Apr 24, 2010, 03:14 AM EDT

  The Republicans NEVER had the Latino vote in the past why should they worry about it now ?

• CitizenWhy | Apr 24, 2010, 01:19 AM EDT

  Yes, the law is extreme, but Obama may be angling for more than immigration reform. The guns fueling the insane Mexican drug wars, which are spilling over into the US in places such as Arizona, come from the US. Obama wanted to get some control over these guns but was stymied. Cutting off those US-supplied guns may be back on his agenda.