51 Comments

• TayandCake | Aug 01, 2012, 11:35 AM EDT

  oh dear, oh dear

• warrenpoint00 | Aug 01, 2012, 11:04 AM EDT

  If Gerry Kelly had abided by his Irish republican principles then he would not have to address this situation arising again.Helping to forcefully marshal bigoted marchers of the terrorist orange order through the nationalist enclave of Ardoyne he will have no sympathy for his rantings from those wishing to ensure that this and other bigoted yearly rituals does not succeed in our nation.

• seamus60 | Aug 01, 2012, 08:52 AM EDT

  Some say religion is merely a fabfication to ensure standards that will help weave society. Hard to imagine how many wars haven`t used them as an excuse in some way. Regardless I don`t like attacking anyones faith as those who live by theirs won`t do harm to anyone. "I will not do onto others what I would not like done onto me" covers all that I need as my religion.

• seanomelb | Jul 31, 2012, 07:11 PM EDT

  AS I have stated before devil man I am an atheist. Your the mean spirited git who thinks your opinion is more correct, Typical British arrogance.AS for Pity!! you're full of it and self loathing to boot moron.

• seamus60 | Jul 31, 2012, 02:22 PM EDT

  Got it.

• seamus60 | Jul 31, 2012, 02:18 PM EDT

  Anyone know where the other article on the same subject went. Was hoping a reply from schon.

• seamus60 | Jul 31, 2012, 12:34 PM EDT

  Belphagor.Catholics and Protestants can vote now yet we still have Gerrymandering, religious discrimination and Internment

• Belphagor | Jul 31, 2012, 10:43 AM EDT

  Not my rantings sean-spice girl it's the usual drivel that spews out of that nasty mouth of yours. Why do you think I care where you were married, reigion is for weak minded sheep who are quite happy to be controlled by a hypocritical bunch of retards who don't practice what they preach, and stop dragging up the past will you, Catholics and protestants can vote now and stop playing the victim, i nearly feel sorry for you, not.

• seanomelb | Jul 30, 2012, 07:28 PM EDT

  I married a Protestant in the presbyterian church. So much for your stupid imperialist rantings Belphagor.It's a Protestant secular anti Catholic state in the North caused all the problems of course you cannot come to terms with the truth. Ireland has had taoiseachs and ministers from all religions .But the north of old may have had a "token" Catholic in their midst ,I cannot remember one.Your the bigot Belphagor. Devil by name and devil by nature.

• seamus60 | Jul 30, 2012, 06:20 PM EDT

  I know some very nice Irish Protestants.

• seagreen | Jul 30, 2012, 12:05 PM EDT

  Just what Ireland needs , They will solve all the problems

• Belphagor | Jul 30, 2012, 12:01 PM EDT

  'No one is laughing'well except for moi. HAHAHAHA the new an improved IRA what a joke, if they want to return to the old days just kill one loyalist and see what happens. I read the same old crap from those die hard dissidents living in Australia and USA recycling the same old British imperialist crap. The majority of people in ireland have had enough of these fascist terrorists,and your ideals of a secular ireland were it seems everyone including Polish, Romanian and Czech's can be irish except Protestants. Racist Fascist Sectarian Gimps the lot of you.

• IrelandNorth | Jul 30, 2012, 08:20 AM EDT

  Forcing British 'military' presence out of Ireland - rather than threatening a peace process? All nationalisms about ethnic or racial ego - whether British or Irish! Don't mean to be unduly phallic, but question is - which one is the biggest? Good Friday Agreement (GFA) for some a GMA (Genitically Modified Agreement)! Northern Irish Rail (NIR) lifting tracts on Belfast to Derry/Lundyderry line for improvement. No train leaving either station for 12 months! Irish republican paramilitarism a symptom of British imperialism. When do we cure the diasease? Successive generations of British Army working class squaddies brough up on stable literary diet of imperialistic militaristic comic (graphic novel) books - like Hotspur and Victor! Desensitised social conditioning? AAARGH! GURUMPH! BANG! CRAASH! WALLOP! GRRRR! THUD!??? What does that do to one's appreciation of literature? Ballot boxes in gerrymandered states of limited effect. Hence, bombs and bullets regrettably. Still, however imperfect, a Genitically Modified Agreement seems to be the best game in town over time. Howld yer fire, lads!

• seamus60 | Jul 29, 2012, 09:26 PM EDT

  Thats a big machine with 40 years expierance in propaganda. More so now that it is aided by the might of the british press and all the payoff from the british treasurey that now funds a lot of community projects. I would welcome such a move but again people are so pissed off with poiticians of all shades. As Darky Hughs rightfully said "to be a politician ,you must first be a good liar. To be a good politician you must be an excellant liar, unfortunately SF now have several excellant liars". We can only acept the fact that Irish Republicanism has been set back by decades due to a misleading leadership who have turned out to be anything but socialists.

• seanomelb | Jul 29, 2012, 06:50 PM EDT

  Seemingly the GFA is not the success it's purported to be.It would be better if dissident republicans ran a massive united campaign at the ballot box against Sinn Fein.Then we would know who is right.

• seamus60 | Jul 29, 2012, 02:41 PM EDT

  Johnny Mac12. Have you any figures on all this ethnic cleansing of the Protestant population along the imaginary line (border to you). Perhaps the only statistic you have is the unionist vote being down. SF say they now have a substantial Protestant vote (but no way of confirming same). Regardless, neither is proof of ethnic cleansing. You have also dabbled on the subject of the disgracefull outcome to the Omagh bomb, yet no mention of the various groups now in the picture of the victims families for not stopping the bomb on various occassions whilst on route to Omagh. I am in no way trying to justify what happened on the day but would also like to know why and who allowed it to go through and their reasons. After all Patsy Gillespie (the human bomb at Coshquinn) RIP was said to be a change in tactic by the provo`s so that the people would turn on them, giving them the excuse to go down the peace process road with ease.

• seamus60 | Jul 29, 2012, 02:12 PM EDT

  Bob Mc Bride. Surely the Republicans of 1798 & 1916 had a wish that should they not succeed future generations of Irishmen would carry their flag until their aspiration bore fruit. If you can`t grasp the clothing atire required for rebels to retain their liberty in the modern day get satalite television.

• seamus60 | Jul 29, 2012, 01:51 PM EDT

  @silling. Marian price and Martin Corey and Gerry Mc Goeough are but 3 republicans interned. We have Gerrymandering in North Belfast (Girwood ring a bell) Conor Murphy (SF) recently found guilty by A Fair employment agency tribunial of religious discrimination.

• seamus60 | Jul 29, 2012, 01:17 PM EDT

  Tom mo. Gerry Adams admitted allowing his brother to move freely all over Ireland and the USA. Even endorsing him within the party and allowing him to write an article on the subject of him uncovering a peadophile ring in Co,Louth. Granted Gerry was pressurised into admission, on the news of his niece going to the press. Where have you been ?

• citizen69 | Jul 29, 2012, 10:52 AM EDT

  @Silling: Yes, what happened after Collins signed the agreement? The IRA continued the violence and put Ireland into a civil war. @Seamus60: Where do we have Internment, Gerrymandering & religious discrimination?

• maryanna | Jul 29, 2012, 09:58 AM EDT

  The trouble with Stormont MLAs fat cats is that they are not real po£iticans just bully boys taken of the streets out of the ditches and given power to control victims of lost lives! The state is guilty as sin-lock up all the gangsters in Armani suits....

• maryanna | Jul 29, 2012, 09:51 AM EDT

  Gerry Kelly and his kkk can't open their mouths look at themselves their dirty war.... No never in my name.... PIRA scared the nation to almost to death for jobs power greed egos- keeps them busy now and content that the brits would give them anything for the name of peace-not a peace process-a blackmail process.

• Realist | Jul 29, 2012, 08:24 AM EDT

  Silling: "There can be no creativity without secrecy"? I suggest you tell that to the families of Stephen Carroll, Ronan Kerr, and the 29 people killed in the 1998 Omagh bombing.

• Silling | Jul 29, 2012, 04:49 AM EDT

  Michael Collins signed an agreement almost a hundred years ago and what became of that? And regarding the ski mask reference! Albert Camus said " There can be no creativity without secrecy ".

• bob mcbride | Jul 29, 2012, 12:36 AM EDT

  I'm sure the rebels of 1798 and 1916 would ask who are these fools with their ski masks on? Why don't you man up and take your ski mask off and show us who u are? Don't be such a coward! After that drown yourself and your hatred in your toilet! You are a public nuisance to all of Ireland and it's people!

• Tom Mo | Jul 28, 2012, 11:14 PM EDT

  Seamus 60 Nobody admits stuff like that, not even a Catholic Democrat. Where have you been?

• seamus60 | Jul 28, 2012, 11:05 PM EDT

  Tom Mo Don`t recall any of them admitting that they sheltered a peadophile, a peado they then gave endorsement to within the party and turned a blind eye to their continued employment with children. But thats differant too because of the peace process. lol

• seamus60 | Jul 28, 2012, 10:58 PM EDT

  Niall. Its sad when you believe Gerry Kelly stealing John Humes exact words from the early seventies is BEST. We should have listened to john and saved thousands of lives. Even all the Nationalist ones, the bulk taken by the RA. When acusing others, one should be careful.

• Tom Mo | Jul 28, 2012, 10:50 PM EDT

  Niall I agree with you 100%. Ireland does not need any more crap from the drug runners and whoremasters of the country.

• seamus60 | Jul 28, 2012, 10:46 PM EDT

  Seano. regardless of who likes or dislikes amalgimations like this. The on the ground facts can not be bluffed away anymore. I am no fan of anymore violence against anyone as I now know the past violence achieved nothing but more corupt politicians. We can get ten to a dime without killing one and other. Unfortunately the inadequecies of our self praising, powersharing so called gov seldom get their deserved publicity due to fear of upsetting the peace process. See how the DUP and SF almost jumped out of their skin at patersons mention of proper gov with a proper opposition. God forbid we would ever have the likes of that, with people in a position to ask the real questions.

• donal1951 | Jul 28, 2012, 10:39 PM EDT

  One of those dissident IRA "losers" saved my life. I had an antibiotic resistent infection _ caused by a surgery that had nothing to do with the Troubles. The IRA man told me what to do. Thanks to him, a man I have never seen, I'm still on the right side of the sod.

• seanomelb | Jul 28, 2012, 10:08 PM EDT

  The disillusionment of the Derry people coping with a GFA that failed them.

• seamus60 | Jul 28, 2012, 07:54 PM EDT

  Niall. Think its time you came over to Derry and spoke to the same people who`s opinions you are happy to highlight. One of your headlines not that long ago was "Is Obama trying to wreck the peace process" by allowing the Boston tapes case to proceed. You had a problem with him not interfeering with due process that could have an effect on Adams and in turn jeapordise the peace. I asked you "HOW" to which I recieved no reply. Yet you see the unification of several millitant groups as no threat to a process that is in tatters due to lack of delivery. Not un-noticed by the ordinary man and woman on the street in Derry and many other places through out the North. I, even though against Republican millitancy at this time understand why Republicans who were prepared to give the process a chance are lossing faith at a speedery rate. We have Internment, we have Gerrymandering, We have religious discrimination, we have ex prisoners being held to ransom because of their past Republican actions on behalf of those who now persecute them for not towing the line. What achievements has the man and woman on the street got from this process. Don`t say PEACE cause its flogged to death. Its the same peace we had in 1968, just with more crooked politicians, who want to run democrecy the way they ran the RA.

• aloistmartin | Jul 28, 2012, 06:49 PM EDT

  Peace is the process by which Irish Meat and Potatoes is turned into Double Devon Cream !

• aloistmartin | Jul 28, 2012, 06:45 PM EDT

  The Bad Joke comes from the Partitionist Mouths of the Protestant Minorities and their Devon Cream loving abettors !

• seamus60 | Jul 28, 2012, 06:38 PM EDT

  Cynicus. The Provos would never have survived either without a certain amount of support from within the community. Plenty of comments on the subject ,yet none of them refer as to why a growing number of people on the ground are coming to the conclusion that they have been sold a pup. A sick one that suffers from the likes of Gerrymandering, political policing and even internment. Things that were seen for what they were 40 years ago. With the only differance being it was unionists inflicting it apon Nationalists. Why would the fact that so called Nationalists be part of the regime inflicting the same now be accepted as differant. People have made lots of promises on the tail end of their self proclaimed vision and courage. Yet nothing has materialised apart from themselves getting fat as cats.

• cynicus | Jul 28, 2012, 05:16 PM EDT

  What these airheads do not realise is that the murderous campaign over the past decades has sullied the idea of a united Ireland, stained the image of republicans, spawned traitors, spies and touts like never before, and has resulted in the slaughter of hundreds of men women and children, born and unborn - and all for NOTHING. Decent Irish society will not support or tolerate any more of these murderers - no matter what their religion or politics are! The cause of 'Irish Freedom' has been reduced to tribal, evil, murderous treachery! There will be no support in the communities for this group of killers.

• seamus60 | Jul 28, 2012, 04:37 PM EDT

  Seamus. is it difficult to ply out the old baby boom tactic. The one used by SF when they are getting it tough. The one where they deny the strength of a veto on any such vote.Thats only the next hurdle after convincing the SOS to allow such a vote ever taking place.

• seamus60 | Jul 28, 2012, 04:29 PM EDT

  Mick. Just as well they didn`t throw Mandelo and a few others into the sea.lol

• seamus60 | Jul 28, 2012, 04:26 PM EDT

  CitizenWhy. The game will be up and they`ll be exposed when they shake the queens hand.

• seamus60 | Jul 28, 2012, 04:20 PM EDT

  Peterson. How can they be traitors when they remain faithful to the 1916 proclamation ? Its not their fault that Adams and Co accepted a referendum that excluded the 26 counties in total contridiction of inclusativity of all the people of Ireland to change the same. It is clearly Adams and Co who are the traitors intent on calling republicans criminals etc, just as the brits called Bobby Sands.

• SeamusMor | Jul 28, 2012, 04:08 PM EDT

  This new, utterly delusional IRA grouping must consist of a very small and ludicrous bunch of losers addicted to masturbation; otherwise they would behave like real men to unite Ireland. Nationalists must make babies instead of bombs so that things may be changed with ballots rather than bullets. Under the terms of the Good Friday Agreement, a majority vote is all that is required for the six occupied counties to reunite with the twenty six counties that make up the Republic of Ireland. Those in Northern Ireland in favor of joining the Republic must simply procreate and educate a Nationalist majority, who will grow up and vote for one Ireland! My message to this new IRA is "Let go of your selfishness delusions, and try having sex with another person!"

• Luciena Denson | Jul 28, 2012, 04:07 PM EDT

  As long as there are people trying to keep alive the now disbanded IRA of the Troubles and loyalists who insist that the Troubles are NOT over, the peace process is not a done deal. Read your own history folks. While there are some differences in the way catholics and protestants approach a few issues, the Troubles was never a fight over whether catholics or protestants were right or wrong. It's a continuation of a messy, centuries-old conflict that began as a result of the role religion was playing in determining who could succeed to the English throne. After the creation of the Republic of Ireland, discord between catholic and protestant became a way to create an artificial class sytem and keep people from uniting under one cause - a unified Ireland - with the Troubles as a result. It is still a divide and conquer tactic intended to keep Unionist and Loyalists divided, and unfortulately in some areas it's still working. As a retired print media religion writer, I have seen first hand how small the differences are between protestant, anglican and catholic, and have written about how those differences have been successfully bridged to create stronger, healthier communities. That can happen in Ireland, if people and groups with their often self-serving agendas will just get out of the way.

• peterson | Jul 28, 2012, 02:21 PM EDT

  They are traitors who exhibit how stupid they are !

• johnnymac12 | Jul 28, 2012, 12:32 PM EDT

  To the Loyalist people living in Northern Ireland the 'war' is NOT over, and the 'troubles' are not a part of history.The ethnic cleansing being carried out in the border regions against the Protestant population is clear evidence of that. Members of victims groups of people brutally murdered by shoot in the back ira, or blown up by hidden bombs are denied funding by British government whilst terrorists are given £hundreds of millions. Murdering terrorists now sit in Government, supported by British and American rebel supporters, who seem to glorify terrorism. Is the murder of innocent women, children and unborn babies still worthy of American support?? I could say a lot more but it sickens me to recall all the atrocities committed by ira/sf and which are reported by the republican propaganda machine to enlist the support of 'friendly governments'.

• Mick10000 | Jul 28, 2012, 11:55 AM EDT

  A terrorist is a terrorist, is a terrorist. I appeal to the inhabitants of the Isle of Saints and Scholars to throw these idiots into the ocean and be done with them.

• OBPiper | Jul 28, 2012, 11:51 AM EDT

  Actually, were they to breed with horses, we'd have mules and thus extinction.

• OBPiper | Jul 28, 2012, 11:47 AM EDT

  I love it! "Maybe these new Desperate Dans . . . should try Viagra to prove their manhood . . .." I still would like to see them breed with donkeys into extinction.

• FallsRNat | Jul 28, 2012, 11:06 AM EDT

  certainly not Loyalists as the UFF & UVF have decommissioned weapons, but not their organisations so still exist

• MichaelMcGrath | Jul 28, 2012, 10:21 AM EDT

  No more a joke than Adams who spent his life trying to rid Ireland of Brits to fill her with Nigerians:-)

• CitizenWhy | Jul 28, 2012, 09:48 AM EDT

  Loyalist fanatics in disguise?