Herman Cain is toast after sexual harrasment and payoff revealed
By: Niall O'Dowd | Published Tuesday, November 1, 2011, 7:14 PM | Updated Tuesday, November 1, 2011, 7:14 PM
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| Herman Cain |
Herman Cain is finding himself in the impossible situation of defending the indefensible.
His White House dreams are undoubtedly over.
It appears now that payment was made to at least one woman underling to settle a sexual harassment suit when he ran the National Restaurant Association.
America will forgive an affair but not a coercive relationship that ended in a pay off.
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It only takes an accusation and a pay off, regardless of the truth, for the matter to finish him.
It appears according to NBC that a pay off took place.
In which case Herman Cain is toast.
It always amazes me that politicians like Cain and John Edwards get into races knowing full well that there are such dark allegations in their past.
Surely they know that in the white heat of presidential contests it is almost certain such information will be ferreted out.
Next up, no doubt, will be the accuser who will paid handsomely to name times and places.
It is the oldest story in the book but candidates like Cain continue to fall for it.
Amazing isn't it.
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Switch to the desktop site to post a comment.EdMahoney | Nov 10, 2011, 09:30 AM EST
The woman in question was sacked for her job performance and received a stipend as a separation payment equaling 3 months pay. NBC, a left wing liberal company, will try to paint any conservative politician with the dirtiest brush they can find. Your writer of this article (note: not a journalist)does not even provide his name and credentials. Try including a balanced report which is what journalism is supposed to do. This is just spreading rumor - GARBAGE.
JimMcGarity | Nov 05, 2011, 11:24 PM EDT
She went away for 35,000 but now she can get a lot more. I didnt know he was found guilty
seanomelbourne | Nov 04, 2011, 06:54 PM EDT
Laurabee cannot argue the point of Cain's sexual harrassment so we go back 50 yrs to the kennedy's and the hearsay that surrounde them as for Teddy he paid a political price for his indiscretions.Why not name the republican perverts over the same period you know!like the repub picking up boys in toilets or the other pervert picking up junior staff in the congressional dining room.Let those without sin--Laurabee.
LauraBee | Nov 04, 2011, 03:33 PM EDT
Was Bill Clinton "Toast" after his BJ in the oval Office? Was he "Toast" after lying under oath? Was Ted Kennedy "Toast' after drowning a girl and swimming away? Was JFK "Toast" after sleeping with Marlyn Monroe? Was Alec Baldwin "Toast" after telling Sen. Henry Hyde that he wanted to stone him to death", "Then we would go to his house and we'd kill the family! Herman Cain will not be toast either. After all what exactly did he do? Make a gesture? Big Deal.
seanomelbourne | Nov 03, 2011, 02:25 AM EDT
paddyranger is oblivious of the meaning of a confidentiality agreement Cain would sue them if "spilled the beans" I wonder how many more sex kittens will come out of the woodwork.Cain is toast.
thesavageirish | Nov 02, 2011, 08:38 PM EDT
Dude,Check the AP, No 3. just did! The other two are following the law having signed confidetialty agreements.
paddyRanger | Nov 02, 2011, 08:13 PM EDT
What's the bet, if these women had the GUTS to come forward with name, we would then find out, how much the DEMOCRATS are paying them, or that they are paid up memebers of the democract party, watch and see, this stinks of a hatchet job..........
thesavageirish | Nov 02, 2011, 01:40 PM EDT
Well if we've really taken this to first grade level. I too bagel to differ and would imagine Senator Boehner might be more offended ! A very rye response Tom.if not too char-itable! Good to see you loafing around and giving them a good grilling, a very nicely sliced pan. Looking forward to the next comment some crouton might make along these breadlines, can only hope it gets butter. Rise up ye men of the yeast and crumble not aldough sour notes may follow, be ye not crust!
Siobhan39 | Nov 02, 2011, 01:05 PM EDT
Cain has neither judicial or legislative experience - things the Repugs went after Obama over. Will a Republican out there explain why Obama was criticized over not having the right experience and not Cain? Is running a business all it takes to become President??
Siobhan39 | Nov 02, 2011, 11:28 AM EDT
maryo137, come now, let's be grown-ups, shall we? Calling Cain toast, a racial slur! Not even close. Calling someone toast is akin to saying 'his goose is cooked,' or he's going to 'crash and burn,' or, to use a grisly expression by highway patrol officers at a fiery wreck, the driver was a 'crispy critter.' Nothing racial about it.
maryo137 | Nov 02, 2011, 10:43 AM EDT
Calling Cain Toast would be taken as a racial slur if he were a Democrat, and it wouldn't even be in the news. As a Conservative who can beat Obama, he had to be stopped by any means, but this won't do it. I'm still voting for him. What passes for sexual harassament in America is a joke.
thesavageirish | Nov 02, 2011, 10:24 AM EDT
Which bank? Can you recommend a good one?
etighe1130 | Nov 02, 2011, 10:20 AM EDT
No he ain't...he's the next VP...take it to the bank!!!
thesavageirish | Nov 02, 2011, 10:20 AM EDT
I'd agree with you there Tom, and it's a pity Ron Paul can't get a soundbite. He'd make a good Biden.
thesavageirish | Nov 02, 2011, 09:58 AM EDT
Herman Cain is toast whether or not these sexual harrassment allegations have any merit. He is not a serious candidate. He has no organization in place anywhere in the country and seems to have no interest in building this critical component of a serious presidential campaign. He is popular with various republican segments because he is seen as refreshingly new and untainted - attributes, which to the more observant, are viewed as those of an inexperienced, ignorant and profoundly incompetent amateur, definitely not ready for prime time. His 9-9-9 tax plan is not just a non-starter, it is ludicrous - but it's catchy, which is why the cerebrally challenged or lazy like it. Cain will soon become yesterday's news and the Republicans will, eventually and reluctantly, nominate Romney.
thesavageirish | Nov 02, 2011, 09:39 AM EDT
Absolutely Nosoup, it is getting harder and harder for any of us to say what we mean as speech is being confounded by liberal translations which by no means implies 'translations by liberals'. I'd go further and say 'liberals' are less likely to reinterpret long held meanings for words and are more likely to put forward conservative definitions.The onslaught of text messaging will no doubt further decay the language and perhaps in future generations we'll be back just grunting at each other. Ever see that movie idiocracy? However, I for one am sticking to my guns and will continue to define words as they appear in the dictionary. At least until a new Fenius Farsa arrives on the scene.
OleSarge | Nov 02, 2011, 08:13 AM EDT
Why are liberals so afraid of strong, independent black conservatives? Could it be the Democrats long support of slavery dating back to their support of the South during the Civil War, or their support of labor unions anti black agenda? So far the evidence is scant concerning the allegations made. let us wait until all the evidence is presented and then we can make a decision. Until then, stop pouring gas on the fire.
nosoupforU | Nov 02, 2011, 04:00 AM EDT
Hey Savage, Once Gay meant something else, Liberal is fast taking on a new meaning also. LIBERAL SPEAK TRANSLATION Tax cut Tax increase No tax increase Big tax increase Tax increase Look out! Taxes are last resort Tax will befirst item on the agenda Read my lips Tax increase Spending cut Spending increase Deficit reduction Tax increase Balanced budget Tax and spend increase Tax the rich Tax anyone with a job Deserving poor People who vote for liberals Undeserving poor People who work LIBERALS: Nosoup's definition - Usefull Idiots
seanomelbourne | Nov 01, 2011, 10:15 PM EDT
I'm devastated Mman the post to which you refer is not mine Mr.Cain is toast theirs a lot of muckrakers in both partis my friend unfortunately mud sticks, glad to hear from you again.
thesavageirish | Nov 01, 2011, 09:46 PM EDT
Well my goodness Kay. Reading between the lines it would seem you're more disappointed than unimpressed that the President didn't take a shine to you in . college. I know..he's an intelligent, goodlooking happily married man with two lovely children, a good heart and a fantastic career. I empathize with the conundrum you find yourself in and are a bit gypped that you must settle for pepperoni. Don't worry girl, it's not him it's you. At any point you can get off the wagon and join him on the bus. At least then you'd know we're going somewhere.
thesavageirish | Nov 01, 2011, 08:45 PM EDT
Good to see you getting the hang of the big words Walt. Well done. If you try a science book now and learn about wings. I've a left one and a right one. Having both is very handy when you need to get somewhere instead of spinning in circles and crashing into walls.
Monsoonman | Nov 01, 2011, 07:09 PM EDT
Lad..What happened 2 you! I saw you lead off as the first commenter on this thread, very reasonable and pro Herman Cain and now you have done a 180 on Herman. Sometimes I can't figure you out...But I'll still golf w/ya when u come here to the states :)
Springfield9 | Nov 01, 2011, 06:59 PM EDT
"Sexual Harasment" is not (usually) "sexual". A complaint can be lodged for simply making someone "uncomfortable". I had a complaint lodged under Sexual Harassment for simply saying "nice dress" to a secretary. All senior managers are exposed to that ridiculous law.
seanomelbourne | Nov 01, 2011, 05:32 PM EDT
Hereman Cain is an arrogant sex predator who thinks he can buy himself out of a sticky situation.He is typical of the low tax paying rich they thinmk they own the country and everybody in it.Cain is toast.
hollabackgurl | Nov 01, 2011, 05:17 PM EDT
He can't remember TWO sexual harassment suits against him that he paid five figure sums for?
waltergmccarthy | Nov 01, 2011, 05:16 PM EDT
Surprised the savageidiot took time out from defecating on police cars and masturbating in public with his lib buddies to add his simpleminded offering. Hey Sav, Are you still living with your "Mammy" or sleeping in the park with all the other left-wing losers?
dawgface | Nov 01, 2011, 04:26 PM EDT
Cain was willing...curious why the accuser wasn't able?
kaydog1 | Nov 01, 2011, 03:40 PM EDT
This sort of "story" is typical of Niall O'Dowd and of the Leftist Media in general. For the last four years, starting at the run-up to the 2008 election, O'Dowd and his pals studiously avoided asking ANY questions about the background of Barack O'Bama. School grades? Samples of his writings in school? Samples of his work product as an attorney? Anything he wrote as "President" of Law Review? Any Bills he wrote as a Senator? NOTHING ever presented for our perusal. Niall's here now looking at Cain, he looked at Gingrich, where was the look at Obama's life from 15 or 20 years ago? Alright, you want to talk SEX SCANDALS? Please, Niall, tell me why it is that while Barack O'Bama is the first Black President of the United States, a regular Black folk hero, NOT ONE SINGLE FEMALE has ever come forward to take her place in the media spotlight reminiscing about having dated Barack, or having wild fabulous relations with him. Not one. Is it the natural reticence of the fairer sex? Is it the retiring nature of the American female? Or is it that there simply weren't any relationship highjinks with FEMALES? Maybe you'd care to look into that for us, eh Niall? I fully expect the Leftist Media to try to do a hatchet job on any viable Conservative candidate, and it will always be approached this same way. We'll see no reasoned attack on Cain's policies, no refutation of his economic assumptions, no rebuttal of his proposals. The Left can't offer such an approach due to the staggering ineptitude and lack of success of the Obama policies - reelect him and you get 4 more years of his current level of "success." Can anyone actually AFFORD 4 more years of this? Anyway, the Left would rather cast aspersions on character and make use of innuendo than debate policy. I am unimpressed.
thesavageirish | Nov 01, 2011, 03:29 PM EDT
Do you mean liberal as in; having social or political views that favor progress and reform, that have views and policies that advocate individual freedom,the kind of people who are tolerant of other people, the kinds of americans that are giving or generous in temperament or behaviour? Or have you created a new definition to sprinkle on your BS. Try using a dictionary before you start inventing your own definitions for public consumption. It helps people understand your ahhh... emm..duh! What's the word again? ..Oh yeah , point. How would you define 'real americans'? You can ask your mammy for help if there's any biggy big wordy things.
waltergmccarthy | Nov 01, 2011, 02:57 PM EDT
This is typical liberal media drivel. The Libs are so scared of a strong black conservative candidate, they will do anything to try to drag him down. This will only enhance his campaign, as real Americans will see through this B.S. and bolster his support. Did you see that his campaign contributions have shot up since this came out? Mine is on the way to him.
thesavageirish | Nov 01, 2011, 02:22 PM EDT
World English Dictionary liberal (ˈlɪbərəl, ˈlɪbrəl) —adj 1. relating to or having social and political views that favour progress and reform 2. relating to or having policies or views advocating individual freedom 3. giving and generous in temperament or behaviour 4. tolerant of other people 5. abundant; lavish: a liberal helping of cream 6. not strict; free: a liberal translation 7. of or relating to an education that aims to develop general cultural interests and intellectual ability —n 8. a person who has liberal ideas or opinions [C14: from Latin līberālis of freedom, from līber free]
71regiment | Nov 01, 2011, 02:21 PM EDT
Mr. O'Dowd, you are very quick to make a headline and judge an event that may or may not have happened as you say it did, from 15 years ago. It is well known in the business world that charges of sexaul harrasement are sometimes brought up as an inducement to get a cash award. In a quote from the NY Post, 1 Nov. 2011, Mary Use, the former head of human resources at the restarunt group, told "Politico", that she was unaware of any ivestigations into women accusing Cain of misconduct. I think your toast is stuck in the toaster.
MegK311 | Nov 01, 2011, 02:10 PM EDT
The liberals are so scared of Herman Cain and other republicans running for office they will spew out all sorts of trash and try to ruin lives. What a bunch of hypocrites. People are tired of dirty politics. The accsations made against Cain do not change my mind about him one bit. At this point I do not know who I will support but I wont let liberal garbage influence my choice of candidate.
thesavageirish | Nov 01, 2011, 01:58 PM EDT
Interesting quote. October 19, 2011|By Robin Abcarian, Los Angeles Times Mitt Romney's hands-on approach to Rick Perry raises questions The former Massachusetts governor's hand on the Texas governor's shoulder is a visual metaphor for Tuesday's unusually feisty Republican presidential debate in Las Vegas. In an unusual move, Mitt Romney placed his hand on Rick Perrys shoulder during… Mitt Romney's hands-on approach to Rick Perry raises questions The former Massachusetts governor's hand on the Texas governor's shoulder is a visual metaphor for Tuesday's unusually feisty Republican presidential debate in Las Vegas. If the Shoulder Touch on the Strip had occurred in a Las Vegas bar, it might have had a different, perhaps bloodier, outcome. But while Mitt Romney's reach-and-grab of Rick Perry sparked no fisticuffs, it served as a visual metaphor for an unusually feisty Republican presidential debate.
cillowen | Nov 01, 2011, 01:56 PM EDT
you can tell by the high rate of eye blinkings the desire for cover. judge judy knows.
AengusOg | Nov 01, 2011, 01:34 PM EDT
"Coercive relationship", ill-advised remark, or is this just another Angela Wright/Tawana Brawley story? Let's get Judge Judy on the case.
thesavageirish | Nov 01, 2011, 01:19 PM EDT
Do tell what sort of story you'd like to see in an irish american magazine. Should Eugene O Neill have written 'Long days journey into night' in an Offaly bar. Perhaps F Scott should have based his tale in Dublin 4. Are you suggesting that being an irish writer one should preclude any mention of things not 'sod'? Last time I checked the column is called 'Periscope', implying having a look uptop and seeing what's going on outside a windowless barrel.
Nicomax | Nov 01, 2011, 01:03 PM EDT
The bean pot was likely tipped over by one of his current primary challengers and not the Obama Team since he is more of a threat in the primary than he would be in the general election.
Siobhan39 | Nov 01, 2011, 12:42 PM EDT
Why is this an Irish story?
thesavageirish | Nov 01, 2011, 12:39 PM EDT
Wasn't there something about Warren Harding and the RNC having to pay out $50,000 to a Carrie Philips way bay when? Eleanor was none too pleased with FDR regarding a certain Lucy Mercer. Dwight and Kay Summersby is the stuff of Hollywood and what of our very own JFK..........? So I must ask how come Bill always gets the credit for being the only 'loverman' ? My own favorite american leader remains Benjamin Franklin, well known as a very 'charming' man and perhaps the first in world history whose son, according to contemporary mores apparently was a motherless child! Ah but that was back in a day when the separation of church and state was a basic tenet of america, a special quality that powerfully drew the line between the USA and the moralizing invasive inquisitional powers of big government and religion of Europe. The good ol days when a bit of substantive style meant something! Liberty! milady, why stoop thee so? I wonder sometimes what Thomas Jefferson would say today and I'd hazard he'd think a real 'love affair' might have merit but plain old lechery would not. A mans man so to speak. Is 'classy' still a concept? Sleazy begets queasy and love saves the day. Not seeing any love out there amongst the grey earls. No sympathy with tea.
PhoenixZouave | Nov 01, 2011, 11:28 AM EDT
So what's your beef? Does your wife want good pizza, or does she want to get goosed. She can't have her pizza and eat it, too!
cindyohcindy | Nov 01, 2011, 10:38 AM EDT
How do we know this ever happened?? Lets not jump to conclusions...ok.. At least Cain has good humor, and we need that as we go down the drain....perhaps he Cain can fish us up!!
SingleDonald | Nov 01, 2011, 10:27 AM EDT
I wholeheartedly support LisaJHD, and her backers! Besides waiting for the facts to come out, we all should be aware of gold diggers. Some of them may enter a consensual relationship for the sole purpose of later alleging that "sexual harassment" took place! Others may have been sincere, when the dating began. Then, if a break up occurs, they crucify the man, making false allegations of "harassment"! I like mrkennedy's post, about the severence pay. As facts emerge, all should realize that this thing was blown way out of proportion. I now think it to be a good idea to have couples at work sign "love contracts". This puts the romance, especially one between people at a-symmetrical levels, on record as being consensual. America should withhold judgment, and not always believe the complaints of a "woman scorned"!
cathy/marty | Nov 01, 2011, 09:46 AM EDT
Speaking about payoffs, Didn't Bill by Monica a new dress? Naill you need to get a life.
mrkennedy | Nov 01, 2011, 09:43 AM EDT
Typically of you Niall! If you waited to hear all the facts and then decided how to write the truth of what happened you would still not believe Cain. The settlement was 3 months severance pay because the investigation proved that the womans charges were not authentic!!! You are a strong believer that you are guilty without hearing all the evidence.
MotherIrish | Nov 01, 2011, 09:41 AM EDT
Where in hte heck did you get your information as to a coersive relationship? What are your smoking or shooting up? Get you facts straight before you make an a$$ of yourself. You need to get the facts and retract this erroneous opinion of yours. If you had ever met the man, talked to him, listened to him, understood what he has done with his life you would be ashamed to jump on a band wagon of less than 1/2 truths. This is an honorable man you are maligning.
kelauggie1 | Nov 01, 2011, 09:41 AM EDT
Laochra, I agree wholeheartedly - Niall is so liberal left that he doesen't use his right hand. Isn't it posssible that the women were paid to go away - without Cain being guilty? Never heard of people making claims just to be paid? In general I like Irish central, but O'Dowd's articles are always so biased they're hard to read or take seriously.
Laochra | Nov 01, 2011, 09:30 AM EDT
LisaJHD is right, give it time before jumping to conclusions. Anyone who reads Irish Central knows Niall's agenda well.
LisaJHD | Nov 01, 2011, 12:30 AM EDT
Pay off??? With the litigation atmosphere in the USA where companies' legal departments see settlements as financially better choices than protracted trials which may or may not be determined favorably, a financial settlement can just be a way to end the issue. We all need to allow time for this story to come out fully before jumping to conclusions about any of the parties involved. This should be the way with any event. It's too bad the media tries to build blame to suit their own agendas.
tankcommander | Oct 31, 2011, 10:21 PM EDT
ODOWD LEFT OUT THE BIGGEST POLITICAL PERV OF ALL,BILL CLINTON.
timquinlan | Oct 31, 2011, 09:09 PM EDT
if Bill Clinton survived Monica,then Cain can survive the story.
ceceann | Oct 31, 2011, 08:57 PM EDT
Toast? The same way Bill Clinton was?
seanomelbourne | Oct 31, 2011, 07:33 PM EDT
The christian right spruiking their family values and practising hedonism.
seanomelbourne | Oct 31, 2011, 06:20 PM EDT
We'll see what the next page reveals Niall. But it is best for this stuff to come out now rather than in the main election. But anyone w/biz experience knows lawsuits and threats happen and sometimes ins. co.'s or organizations pay off rather than litigate, whether you want them to or not.