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| Irish Day of Action - Irish community lends a hand after Sandy |
Some weeks back I had calls from several concerned Irish working to restore Breezy Point and other areas in the Rockaways about the attitude of the New York Times reporter Sarah Maslin Nir who was covering the story.
She seemed intent, according to them, on pointing out to everyone that Breezy Point was a whites only community and that the community there had been accused of racism in the past.
The calls were from people who had flown in from Ireland to help with the restoration of Rockaway and some Irish based here were perplexed at the attitude of the reporter who was making her concerns known loudly.
With good reason. The piece that ran in The Times today is laced with innuendo about the allegedly racist Irish, quoting Al Sharpton prominently calling Breezy Point an “apartheid village.”
(No mention of when Al slandered Irish Americans during the Tawana Brawley hoax case absurdly accusing them of IRA involvement.)
Here’s a typical paragraph from the reporter’s piece. "But complicating the current embrace from abroad is the gated community’s extreme insularity. Breezy Point is the whitest neighborhood in the city, a demographic makeup that critics say illustrates the enclave’s entrenched xenophobia, a dark flip side, perhaps, to all that ethnic pride."
No evidence is given of any xenophobia. Have foreigners been beaten up there? Blacks shot? Has there been massive racist reports from Breezy? Not that I have noticed.
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The facts are very different to this type of innuendo. The Irish community reached out to all residents in Rockaway, Black, Irish, Jewish, Italian and were encouraged to do so by those in Breezy and everywhere else.
I know a little about this. I was at an initial meeting at the Irish Consulate in New York with just Consul General Noel Kilkenny and Deputy Consul Peter Ryan when an Irish initiative to help the Rockaways was discussed.
It was soon after Hurricane Sandy had hit when the issue of what to do about the Rockaways was raised. Noel Kilkenny noted the massive ground swell of emotion in the Irish community to do something to help and asked for my advice.
I had actually gone down to Rockaways the previous weekend and talked to local people there in preparation for the meeting.
It was clear to me that financial assistance was not enough. From all over the Rockaways and Far Rockaways too, the plea was clear, people needed boots on the ground, help digging out. I had liaised with Brendan Brosh, a local Irish American left with a badly damaged home, who works with former Comptroller William Thompson, an African American, who suggested that a major effort across the Rockaways would really help.
Which is why I suggested to the Consul General that Days of Action, not fundraising, be considered, something the community had done very successfully a few years back on the issue of immigration when we sent thousands to Washington for immigration reform. My brother in law, community activist Ciaran Staunton, and I had discussed it on our visit to Rockaways and agreed that while money was great, helping rebuild immediately was much more important.
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Noel and Peter jumped on the idea and I remember they organized a meeting of community leaders shortly afterwards. They did stellar work setting up the subsequent Days of Action.
Everyone agreed and it was specifically addressed at the first community meeting, that the initiative needed to be Rockaways wide, not just located in the Irish neighborhoods there. It was clear from talking to people down there that many of the hardest hit areas were those where the African American community lived.
Many in Breezy Point made that point to me directly, that bad and all as they were, they had more resources than many of the poorest and hardest hit in other areas that were not Irish. I would say that was a constant refrain.
And so it proved to be.
The two days of action were major successes. Up to 1,000 Irish took part and under the leadership of the Irish Consulate and the Irish immigrant centers as well as locals on the ground like former NYPD officer Brian McCabe, the community spread across the Rockaways, working in every area. Many have returned every weekend since. The Irish Centers in Queens and The Bronx continue to organize relief efforts there which they have done from right after Sandy struck.
I spent a day visiting the sites and the appreciation and the thanks in the African American community was as heartfelt and welcoming as that which was received in Breezy. Everywhere I went I had the impression of people in dire circumstances acting with dignity and resolve and very thankful for the help.
The athletes from Ireland, working on a separate initiative, did a remarkable job working with everyone also. In all the time I spent down there it was an uplifting experience, the Irish government and the Irish American community acting together in common cause. I went so far as to tell Noel Kilkenny and Peter Ryan that it was the Irish community's finest day in America for many a long year.
While acknowledging the good work, The New York Times reporter saw much of it differently. She writes “Even in the days after the storm, volunteer firefighters in the community repeatedly told a visitor as she left to beware of the residents of Far Rockaway, the predominantly black neighborhood at the other end of the peninsula.”
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Would the fact that there was a well documented spike in crime after Sandy not have been on their minds when giving her some friendly advice for a woman alone in avoiding such areas? Was it racist to offer some helpful insight?
(These volunteer firefighters would be drawn from the same community which sacrificed so many dead and injured on September 11th 2001 and performed heroically after Sandy.)
It hardly seems fair to let the racist innuendo hang in the air over this story which is a feel good one on so many levels.
But prejudice isn't always about color of the skin, it can be about attitude and a deep mindset which sees communities in cliches and stereotypes whatever the color of the skin.
I certainly think The NY Times has done that on this occasion.
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Switch to the desktop site to post a comment.saraindc | Feb 24, 2013, 12:31 PM EST
its simple really - pay no heed to the NYT or any other rag thats trying to put a black cloth over good work. focus on helping the people, regardless of their heritage or color and stick with the program of getting people back in their homes. There are always going to be reporters, media, commentators and writers who want to look for the bad in everything - ignore them and focus on helping people, caring about people and doing good work on the ground. let that speak for itself. I'm sick of reading about reporters who try to put a dirty angle on any good anyone tries to do. it matters not the race, the color, the religion, the nationality - those who are helping out are doing a hell of a lot more good than those writing about it trying to make them look bad. Its pathetic - the media should be ashamed of themselves, including the NYT reporter - find something good to write about - earn your pay!!!
seanomelb | Feb 22, 2013, 05:58 PM EST
True Kaydo1 savants are usually caught in a one dimensional world and yours is bigotry.
kaydog1 | Feb 22, 2013, 10:42 AM EST
Actually, 'sean', people call me some kind of a genius...or at least, "savant" was half of what they were saying...
seanomelb | Feb 21, 2013, 07:31 PM EST
I must disagree with some points that eiriamach made. To make a carte blanche statement that the Irish are inherently abigotted lot is unfair and only gives succour to idiots like kaydog1
kaydog1 | Feb 21, 2013, 10:25 AM EST
See Niall, I refer you to EIRAMACH' comments to see how you should be toeing the Communist/Democrat party line. EIRAMACH in a SINGLE post points out that SOME Irish have displayed homophobia, RACISM, bigotry, and 'anti-feminist' (extra points to Sltherin for that particular one) thought crimes. He has therefore "proven" that ALL "Irish America" share the guilt of being racists, bigots, homophobes, and anti-feminists!. Do you see how easy that was? For YOU I suggest a refresher course in the revolutionary dialectic - I believe that we can arrange for you to attend one being run by some nice North Korean gentlemen, And again, kudos to Commissar "Freedom Rider" Eiramach for a People's Job well done!
cillowen | Feb 20, 2013, 10:58 AM EST
NY Times like so many others know the group to rag on. Its those "turn-the-other-cheek" types that leaves them secure in spouting at will. The targetting ilk are like scabs that keep falling off before the cure time and time again - it'll be their fate for ever." Bottom of the barrel hating dredgers.
harp579 | Feb 20, 2013, 10:48 AM EST
Note particularly the last paragraph from the article in 1979, volume 5, page 96 of the Annual Review of Sociology summing up results of various studies showing that Irish-Catholics are the least bigoted white gentile group in America. Only American Jews graded higher in America in this regard, albeit by a significantly higher percentage. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I don't have a free link but you can get access to the Jstor database from many public and college libries. This site is programmed not to allow copy paste in their comment box.
Mousemess | Feb 20, 2013, 09:53 AM EST
Suas leis na hEireannaigh agus sios leis na ciniochaithe. Agus suas leis an nGaeilge in eindi leis an mBearla, ar ndoigh. Up with the Irish people and down with the racialists. And up with the Irish language along side of the English language of course.
LIzz1107 | Feb 20, 2013, 09:40 AM EST
I'm a Breezy Point resident. I've been displaced from my home since the night before the storm. Reading this article really gets me mad. All this racist crap is irritating - The storm hurt a lot of people, black people, white people, asian people... Stop talking about what color people are or what country their relatives came from - throw on a pair of gloves and help a neighbor...Writing this crap you've wasted a lot more time than pitching in and making an effort.
eiriamach | Feb 20, 2013, 07:12 AM EST
Niall, this article is misbegotten. If you have not witnessed bigotry among Irish Americans, I assure you that many of us have seen it in some Irish groups-- homophobic, anti-feminist, and racist speech on a Saturday night by people who lined up on Sunday morning at the Communion rail. They do not even recognize it as sinful! Most of America made a definitive break with our nation's bigoted past in the 1960s, with the Civil Rights movement. But there are outliers in Irish America. Why not turn your journalistic skills in the direction of helping them break with their dysfunctional mindset? Read below the comments your article has elicited, and don't ignore the racists, the one who wants to lynch Al Sharpton, for example. Denial that bigotry exists in Irish America only compounds the problem and encourages another generation to learn from Cardinal Dolan how to hate gays or from the pope how to consider women inferior. Irish America still needs a definitive break from its bigoted past.
eiriamach | Feb 20, 2013, 06:52 AM EST
Niall, where is the "racist innuendo" in Nir's article? If anything, she defends the Irish against charges of racism: "Mr. Kilkenny, the consul general, said the government also chose groups that aided diverse communities to receive most of its donation, and the 1,500 volunteers for the 'Irish Days of Action' after the storm were purposefully fanned out to areas like Far Rockaway [with African-American residents]. 'New York has been good to the Irish,' said Mr. Kilkenny, explaining the move. 'The Irish are giving back to New York.'” Nir does suggest that the residents of the all-white community may have learned something from the diverse relief efforts, but nowhere in her article does she make an accusation of racism. "Insularity" is a fair assessment of the community, as made by Steve Greenberg, the former chairman of the Breezy Point cooperative’s board: "to his knowledge, no black family had ever held a share in the private community." Self-segregation raises legitimate questions, but Nir avoids accusations. You should deal with the questions without defending Breezy Point against charges the Times didn't make!
kaydog1 | Feb 19, 2013, 07:27 PM EST
I must admit to being confused by Niall's attitude - after all, Niall is a white, card-carying Leftist, and it is settled Leftist dogma that ALL whites of European extraction are RACISTS, that non-whites CANNOT be racists by virtue of having been helpless victims of white RACISM, that ALL whites have benefited from their undeserved "white privelege", and that there is an endless debt from RACISM that whites can merely attempt to atone for. (I believe that to be 'chapter and verse'.) It is the sacred task of the New York Times and it's "journalists" to continually point out the subtle as well as the obvious RACISM of 'crackers' like Niall, and all of those other Irish, who, after all, persist in being white. What, did you think that by being a Leftist and by not having actually DONE anything wrong, that you weren't still benefitting from 'White Privelege", and thus RACIST? Niall, you have pointed the fingerbone of racist accusations at enough other undeserving individuals to know how this game is played, and you're just as"guilty" as they were. As Prof Al Sharpton would say, let's not play at being 'apartheid village idiots'.
Smyrnian | Feb 19, 2013, 04:54 PM EST
The next Druid convention is being held in Florida, Daytona Beach. I hear it is in mid-June.
harp579 | Feb 19, 2013, 04:26 PM EST
When is the next big Irish or Irish-Catholic or Irish-Druid or whatever convention?
harp579 | Feb 19, 2013, 04:23 PM EST
Nobody would dare lie about their ethnic or religious heritage on the internet.
dcc3 | Feb 19, 2013, 03:54 PM EST
The despicable comments about Jews and Blacks really aren't helping your case. I don't at all think the Irish helping their own is racist in any way, and I think the author makes some great points. But commenting with the name "knuckledragger" about how Sharpton should be at the end of a rope?? Calling blacks Negros? Saying you won't read anything written by Jews? Are you kidding me? If you want to help the cause here at hand, shut your mouths for a minute.
michaelidaho | Feb 19, 2013, 02:04 PM EST
I really do not see why anybody is surprised here. The NY Times is your typical liberal, politically correct newspaper that divides people neatly into four major groups: white, Asian, African-American and Latino. Non-whites are constantly featured as the victims of "white" racism. (There is rarely ever an article about racial tensions between the other non-white groups). This reporter was just following the typical narrative of our liberally, educated, p.c. journalist. Facts and critical thinking do not matter anymore. Just rehashing the same old non-whites as victims story is all you need to make it in the world of liberal journalism.
Stiofain | Feb 19, 2013, 01:00 PM EST
Lughaidh,Knuckledragger statements pretty much says it all.
knuckledragger | Feb 19, 2013, 12:33 PM EST
...the only place Al Sharpton should be commenting from is at the end of a rope.
bunkerhill | Feb 19, 2013, 12:21 PM EST
I agree with eibhleann7 that the Irish and their American descendents are the least prejudiced people in the world. Was JFK anti-black? He opened so many doors for our fellow Americans with African ancestry. Are the Irish in Ireland anti-black. I don't believe there is a country on earth, tiny as their Ireland is, with a population of 4 million which you could fit into Long Island, who has sent more loving people to aid Africans and more money in aid. Does Kerias Joel in Rockland County NY have a black population. Does the Jewish community in Brooklyn have a black or hispanic population? The Irish and their descendants run into burning buildings as in the World Trade Center and place themselves in the line of fire most often for others. I don't think there is a kinder group of people on earth. My own dear Irish father trained a young black man to drive a train and they became the best of friends. God Bless the Irish.
eibhleann7 | Feb 19, 2013, 07:38 AM EST
The Irish ARE the superior race. Superior in their heart and hard work. Superior in their compassion for their fellow mankind and generosity to those in need. Where ever you may go in this wide world you will always find the Irish stepping forward to make this Earth a better place for all, regardless of whom ever they champion for. Hell, if that makes me a racist, I'll gladly wear the title.
darragh S | Feb 18, 2013, 11:41 PM EST
The following is way way way sarcastic. almost satirical.
darragh S | Feb 18, 2013, 11:37 PM EST
Here are some Intresting facts about the Blacks these days. Go try and get a game on Notre Dame 'the fighting insular Irish' and face off against all those talented black people holding it down. No mention of positive discrimination in football recently either. Do the same over at the Boston Celtics. I demand they change their names respectively to the Fighting Afro Americans and the Boston Negros though some may have some Irish Heritace of adopted Irish names.
darragh S | Feb 18, 2013, 11:36 PM EST
Same goes for the 69th Infantry whom are also called the Fighting Irish, see the thing is that since world war 2 they have used positive discrimination to dilute the Irish, and this may be why Tamany is no longer a powerful political force as it was in the past, so now you have a Fighting Irish whom are 90 % Asian and Latino and not even sure if they even have a Black Panthers Division in the 269 anymore. All they have now a lexington barracks is a few shops and museum and the Fighing Asian Latinos are moved way up to 365th street or something.
darragh S | Feb 18, 2013, 11:36 PM EST
As for positive discrimination it goes to show you that the poor still do the fighting in America. When the Irish were the poor and Lincoln brought them in to the fold they did the fighting. So you look at positive discrimination and you see that African Americans are 22 % of the Military but only 11 % of the Population. Do you get that in Hollywood. Not likely. Its all bullshit. I am sure there will be very few that complain about this as our Irish American Heritage does not really matter as much as the Agenda of Rich people. Insular indeed.
darragh S | Feb 18, 2013, 11:34 PM EST
All they have now a lexington barracks is a few shops and museum and the Fighing Asian Latinos are moved way up to 365th street or something. As for positive discrimination it goes to show you that the poor still do the fighting in America. When the Irish were the poor and Lincoln brought them in to the fold they did the fighting. So you look at positive discrimination and you see that African Americans are 22 % of the Military but only 11 % of the Population. Do you get that in Hollywood. Not likely. Its all bullshit. I am sure there will be very few that complain about this as our Irish American Heritage does not really matter as much as the Agenda of Rich people. Insular indeed.
darragh S | Feb 18, 2013, 11:34 PM EST
All they have now a lexington barracks is a few shops and museum and the Fighing Asian Latinos are moved way up to 365th street or something. As for positive discrimination it goes to show you that the poor still do the fighting in America. When the Irish were the poor and Lincoln brought them in to the fold they did the fighting. So you look at positive discrimination and you see that African Americans are 22 % of the Military but only 11 % of the Population. Do you get that in Hollywood. Not likely. Its all bullshit. I am sure there will be very few that complain about this as our Irish American Heritage does not really matter as much as the Agenda of Rich people. Insular indeed. What a bitch.
darragh S | Feb 18, 2013, 11:33 PM EST
Here are some Intresting facts about the Blacks these days. Go try and get a game on Notre Dame 'the fighting insular Irish' and face off against all those talented black people holding it down. No mention of positive discrimination in football recently either. Do the same over at the Boston Celtics. I demand they change their names respectively to the Fighting Afro Americans and the Boston Negros though some may have some Irish Heritace of adopted Irish names. Same goes for the 69th Infantry whom are also called the Fighting Irish, see the thing is that since world war 2 they have used positive discrimination to dilute the Irish, and this may be why Tamany is no longer a powerful political force as it was in the past, so now you have a Fighting Irish whom are 90 % Asian and Latino and not even sure if they even have a Black Panthers Division in the 269 anymore. All they have now a lexington barracks is a few shops and museum and the Fighing Asian Latinos are moved way up to 365th street or something. As for positive discrimination it goes to show you that the poor still do the fighting in America. When the Irish were the poor and Lincoln brought them in to the fold they did the fighting. So you look at positive discrimination and you see that African Americans are 22 % of the Military but only 11 % of the Population. Do you get that in Hollywood. Not likely. Its all bullshit. I am sure there will be very few that complain about this as our Irish American Heritage does not really matter as much as the Agenda of Rich people. Insular indeed.
darragh S | Feb 18, 2013, 11:32 PM EST
Here are some Intresting facts about the Blacks these days. Go try and get a game on Notre Dame 'the fighting insular Irish' and face off against all those talented black people holding it down. No mention of positive discrimination in football recently either. Do the same over at the Boston Celtics. I demand they change their names respectively to the Fighting Afro Americans and the Boston Negros though some may have some Irish Heritace of adopted Irish names. Same goes for the 69th Infantry whom are also called the Fighting Irish, see the thing is that since world war 2 they have used positive discrimination to dilute the Irish, and this may be why Tamany is no longer a powerful political force as it was in the past, so now you have a Fighting Irish whom are 90 % Asian and Latino and not even sure if they even have a Black Panthers Division in the 269 anymore. All they have now a lexington barracks is a few shops and museum and the Fighing Asian Latinos are moved way up to 365th street or something. As for positive discrimination it goes to show you that the poor still do the fighting in America. When the Irish were the poor and Lincoln brought them in to the fold they did the fighting. So you look at positive discrimination and you see that African Americans are 22 % of the Military but only 11 % of the Population. Do you get that in Hollywood. Not likely. Its all bullshit. I am sure there will be very few that complain about this as our Irish American Heritage does not really matter as much as the Agenda of Rich people. Insular indeed. What a bitch.
harp579 | Feb 18, 2013, 08:15 PM EST
...and by labeling us, the american Jews, as 'bigotted' they take away our moral right to defend ourselves when we ourselves face bigotry. You have to admit, it is a very clever system.
harp579 | Feb 18, 2013, 08:08 PM EST
To be bigoted in America is verboten except against Americans who have or appear to have some Irish-Catholic heritage because it is patriotic as it binds together the other 'groups' against a common enemy (as though 'we' are a coherent group). Why 'us'? Because the English brought this bigotry here with them and they were the founders and the founders need to be respected for there to be a unified American citizenry and order. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . It's always been this way and it always will be. I see immigrants who quickly pick up on it on their way past 'us' to unofficial first class citizenship. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . They are patriots, but they remind of the schoolyard bully grabbing the hand of the weaker kid and smashing his face with it, and then rubbing it in with “why you hitting yourself?”
Lughaidh | Feb 18, 2013, 07:50 PM EST
Why people even buy media from the Sulzberger family is beyond my comprehension. If a publication is owned or edited by Jews, I automatically refuse to have anything to do with it. We live in the information age, where there are now hundreds of thousands of alternative sources of media, the Jew Pork Times is irrelevent.
Lughaidh | Feb 18, 2013, 07:37 PM EST
The horse faced tramp who authored the article is crying because she personally is a miscegenationist (Google to find her profile to confirm) and obviously the New York Times is a Jewish propaganda outlet. I really don't care what Jews, Anglo-Saxons (Maslin is an AS name), whiny Black Marxists (Jessie Jackson) and other psychologically damaged people have to say for themselves. Personally I always try to put other people of Gaelic Irish stock first. The use of Trotsky's phrase (coined in 1930) "racist" now seems to be used as a demonism to refer to any homogenous ethnic European communities existing anywhere. I see no problem with Gaelic Irish group solidarity, hyper-individualism is Judeo-Saxon worldview, which they should keep to themselves.
slainte9 | Feb 18, 2013, 07:35 PM EST
No blacks in Breezy Point. The comical thing is that if you look at the hip stories the blonde Ms. Nir writes for The Times as the Nocturnalist doesn't have any blacks in its pictures, either. This is the "hip" world we live in. The "hip" denounce others' alleged racism while living in their very much segregated world.
MarkMary73 | Feb 18, 2013, 06:11 PM EST
As a yellow dog, liberal and (all the best part)Irish American, I usually find the New York Times as a guilty pleasure, particularly when it skewers the right wingnuts. But this! C'mon, there is enough real racism in the country and the world to write about, rather than conjure up an outrageously biased piece on the supposed racism of Irish Americans. "Malarky" as the Veep woulod say and I say many the banshee visit her often
cillowen | Feb 18, 2013, 06:06 PM EST
The Irish coming out in large numbers even from Ireland to help the Sandy impacted seems to have shamed other ethnics mightily. Its as simple as that - were Sharpton's army in hiding - never heard a mention of him leading a good work efforts - this Tawana Brawley one, who keeps on keeping on, happily supported by those who whine without let-up. Racist shamed souls using Times spout as their divert means. Fugget the tripe that be.
omadon1 | Feb 18, 2013, 05:38 PM EST
A group coalesces to help itself and it's neighbors and it is racist. A neighborhood becomes crime ridden after a disaster and it the fault of the people who are trying to help. NY Times logic. If people are proud of their heritage and take care of their neighborhood, without Crown Heights incidents, why can't that be a good thing.
seanomelb | Feb 18, 2013, 05:27 PM EST
maslin Lin should stick to what she knows best,writing about the nightlife or fuzzy articles for "house and garden. her anti Irish racist comments based on no foundation whatsoever belies what she really is. A frustrated nightlife scribe trying desperately to be a reporter. She should return to her forte which is drawing insignificant people in insignificant circumstances.
seanomelb | Feb 18, 2013, 05:19 PM EST
It seems to me that aslin Nir is the anti Irish racist with nothing better to do but vilify the heros of sandy point whos hearts went out to all regardless of race creed or colour.
hancock | Feb 18, 2013, 04:14 PM EST
So based on your relatives thoughts a whole ethnicity is racist? Does the make up of the crime ridden areas of this city also remove blame from people who tar all people in those communities with that brush? Are they also blameless in their lazy, mindless ignorance?
Smyrnian | Feb 18, 2013, 04:12 PM EST
Barry - that is not even close to being true. .
Barry | Feb 18, 2013, 03:39 PM EST
You can't really blame people for thinking that Irish-Americans are racist: there's a lot of evidence there. I see/hear it all the time with my own relatives, who really don't give a toss about anyone who isn't Irish and even less so sabout anyone who isn't white. If you ask me, most of America is still quite racist. Why else are the neighbourhoods still so segregated there?
KathleenBerrio | Feb 18, 2013, 01:07 PM EST
Renalda M the incident to which you refer happened on Staten Island. Nowhere did anyone report that the man who refused refuge to the young woman and her children was Irish or Irish-American.
CeltNYC | Feb 18, 2013, 12:50 PM EST
Remember when the NY Times ran those pieces about the "xenophobic" and "apartheid" Orthodox Jewish and Hasidic communities in NYC? Or about places like the "Five Towns" on Long Island? Yeah, me neither. Really disgusting. Also missed their piece on the anti-black pogrom in Israel that just occurred. Google that one for fun. Truly pathetic and more anti-white racism which is typical in America today.
PaulFagan | Feb 18, 2013, 12:47 PM EST
Niall : Great column! All the best. Paul
PhlutiePhan | Feb 18, 2013, 12:46 PM EST
I wonder what Joe Biden would say about this! "It all depends on what the meaning of 'is' is". To put it kindly, the NY Times is a radical socialist rag which hides its true agenda with encyclopedic tapestry. So, let's send Sarah Maslin Nir, a good "Swedish" name to be sure, to live in the Far Rockaways and to report from the inside about the godless life that St. Patrick overcame in Ireland. It is all about the destruction of God and culture. Breezy point, by the way, is on a promentory and land that no one else wanted.
Searlit | Feb 18, 2013, 12:31 PM EST
I was going to say 'no good deed goes unpunished' except I see that's already covered in the comments. Ah, the Irish, d*mned if you do, you know the rest.
Niall O'Dowd | Feb 18, 2013, 12:29 PM EST
Renalda, that incident you refer to did not happen in Breezy point, or the Rockaways, the man was not irish American and the husband of the Black woman was irish-born.Please get your facts straight
Seanmor | Feb 18, 2013, 11:41 AM EST
I didn't read the "Times" article on Breezy Point, but I doubt if it mentioned that community is one of the safest in all of NYC's 5 boroughs. Apparently the "Times" seldom prints anything positive about Irish people anywhere in world (and the same is largerly true of the "Irish Independent" in Dublin).
Renelda M. | Feb 18, 2013, 11:38 AM EST
The rebuttal to the headline is soooo weak. You may be silver tongued, but in this case there's tarnish on your silver tongue. Breezy Point IS a restricted community.What comes to mind is the black mother with her two babies (she ws married to an Irishman) who knocked on the door for help and her white Irish neighbor slammed the door in her face. The babies in her arms were swept away with the storm. Restricted, xenophobic community=Breezy Point.
slainte9 | Feb 18, 2013, 10:40 AM EST
Old prejudices at The Times, anew, //somenewsfittoprint.blogspot.com/2011/09/new-york-times-and-irish-character
rhunter67 | Feb 18, 2013, 10:33 AM EST
I read this article and it seemed to make it seem like the Irish in Ireland were the ones being racist because they were helping their own. Sure they did mention the neighborhood's protectionist qualities, but that shouldn't necessarily be considered racist. If racism is keeping outsiders out, then every ethnic neighborhood in NY must be racist then.
slainte9 | Feb 18, 2013, 10:32 AM EST
Check out this on the Times anti-Irish history: http://somenewsfittoprint.blogspot.com/2011/09/new-york-times-and-irish-character.html
Rebelforce | Feb 18, 2013, 10:28 AM EST
Meanwhile, in the Gaza Ghetto and the Occupied West Bank where there is actual racism and real apartheid happening today against the beleaguered Palestinian people at the hands of the Israeli government, the Old Gray Lady is conspicuously silent.
slainte9 | Feb 18, 2013, 10:24 AM EST
The New York Times has a long history of being anti-Catholic and anti-Irish, before and after the Sulzbergers.
johnshiel | Feb 18, 2013, 10:20 AM EST
sounds like Ms. Nir is well trained in journalistic propaganda... just doing what she has been taught...
Rebelforce | Feb 18, 2013, 10:14 AM EST
Sadly, the New York Times has a long and shameful record of anti-Irish and anti-Catholic bias. Nothing new here.
jimwhalen | Feb 18, 2013, 10:12 AM EST
Political Correctness is out of control. There are groups from every race which back and support their own. When The Irish do, this what you get. I personally don't give a hoot about the way the NY Times feels or how anyone else feels. I will help the Irish or anyone else of my chosing. If you don't like it, don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out. "Up The Republic" & County Mayo!!!
nicgearailt | Feb 18, 2013, 10:11 AM EST
The thought did occur to me when I read this story initially..as an Irish person ,living in Boston.I sometimes think that we look at things differently,as Irish folks,as distinct from all others.We want to be both local, and citizens of the world, at the same time.It's hard to put it in words..I loved that those athletes were over here ,helping those people affected by the disasters..that they selected an Iris American community is because that is how it was reported in the news back in Ireland.End result i that a great act of kindness is undermined significantly..that is a great pity...political correctness can be a bad thing ,as in this case...
Smyrnian | Feb 18, 2013, 10:09 AM EST
First of all everyone knows by now that the NY Times is a discredited rag. Also, a good life lesson us to always remember this truth 'A good deed never goes unpunished' and helping always breeds resentment from some quarter. Sad, but it's just the way life is. Ignore it and keep up the great work helping everyone!
stevenrdoyle | Feb 18, 2013, 10:05 AM EST
Sarah Maslin Nir https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=515061320822&set=o.2203812528&type=1&theater An she calls the Irish raciest Terrible post by a reporter with horrible language ...
Mortimer74 | Feb 18, 2013, 09:46 AM EST
People, why are you even reading the New Yuck Times? It is a manifesto rag, full of prejudice and unfounded comment. Its reporting and editorial content have been ridiculed and criticized with good reason in the last week alone by more intelligent newspapers like the Wall Street Journal and even by the Washington Post. Still reading this joke of a rag? The jokes on you, sucker.
antoman | Feb 18, 2013, 09:32 AM EST
I seldom read articles written by women less than fifty years old. They are invariably emotionally tainted and this is reflected in their writings. Mind you for the rest of the month their writings are perfectly sound and a match for the most literate of men. But who can determine, except themselves, when this once monthly emotionally fueled tripe will be produced by a woman, and add to the fact that one can expect these angst ridden articles twelve times a year. No, better not to frequent such writings at all and instead resolve to read those of more mature women. Who are less susceptible to the whims of nature and whose literacy and viewpoint, now they are in their fifties, is quite indistinguishable from that of us men.
kilgarvan | Feb 18, 2013, 09:17 AM EST
Hi Niall, a bit of the 'pot calling the kettle black' (no pun intended) on your part in criticizing a NY Times report, maybe there's hope for you yet.
torbreezy | Feb 18, 2013, 09:17 AM EST
"NOW you KNOW the REST of the story." Thank you Niall and Paul Harvey
Oldloadr | Feb 18, 2013, 09:16 AM EST
Webster's Definition of RACISM 1: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race 2: racial prejudice or discrimination — rac·ist noun or adjective Now for the Democratic National Committee's (and by natural extension) The NY Times' definition of racism: Anything a person of predominantly European (and increasingly Asian) ancestry says or does that does not fully satisfy the PC dictates to support the socialist collective nanny state. It's to the point now that the DNC/NYT calling a white person a racist has no meaning since they have so adulterated the term. Of course if the NYT ever accuses an African-American leader of racism, I'll jump to the window and see how many pigs are flying.