Cardinal Timothy Dolan to offer closing prayer at GOP convention in Florida -- Taking sides so openly in presidential election is not a very smart idea
By: Niall O'Dowd | Published Thursday, August 23, 2012, 10:31 AM | Updated Thursday, August 23, 2012, 10:31 AM
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| Cardinal Dolan |
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Cardinal Timothy Dolan is to give the closing prayer at the Republican National Convention in Tampa.
And the
Catholic Church is not taking sides in this presidential election.
Here’s the comment by the church’s spokesman Joseph Zwilling who stated that Dolan had accepted the invitation “within the last two weeks,” and that the move should not be seen as partisan.
“Cardinal Dolan is going to pray, not to engage in partisan politics,” Mr. Zwilling said. “He made it clear when he accepted the invitation that he would also accept an invitation from the Democratic National Committee to offer a prayer at their convention, should they ask.
“He is going simply to pray, which is part of what a priest should do.”
Of course, the fact that he is praying from the stage of the Republican National Convention at the express invite of candidate
Mitt Romney is just a coincidence.
Being the smart politician that he is, Mitt blurted it out at the first opportunity yesterday. Asked a question about religious freedom, he stated.
“Well, first of all, I’ll continue to meet with Cardinal Dolan, who, by the way, is going to offer the benediction on the last evening of the Republican Convention after my acceptance speech. So I am making it very clear that the interest of religious freedom is something I support wholeheartedly.”
So If you believe Zwilling there is no difference in Dolan doing this at say a gathering of Walmart employees and at the RNC. I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
Which no one believes for a second, anyway.
Zwilling said that GOP leaders said “they said we would really like you to do it,” when the Cardinal asked. I’ll bet they did.
It has become obvious for some time that Cardinal Dolan loves his media image and pumps it up at every opportunity.
He positively preens in the spotlight which is harmless enough, but putting the Catholic Church squarely on the side of the Republicans is a major mistake.
This is a deeply divided society right now, even at the level of the US Bishops where some have criticized VP candidate Paul Ryan for targeting his budget cuts at the poor.
Dolan has also displayed his bromance with VP candidate
Paul Ryan. Speaking on Sirius radio he stated; “I came to know and admire him immensely ,” he said, “And I would consider him a friend. He and his wife Janna and their three kids have been guests in my house; I’ve been a guest at their house. They’re remarkably upright, refreshing people. And he’s a great public servant.”
Dolan claimed he was “speaking personally and not from a partisan point of view” and “not trying to be an apologist” for Ryan.
He even praised Ryan’s “call for financial accountability and restraint and a balanced budget,” as well as his “obvious solicitude for the poor.”
Dolan said, “I admire him. He’s honest. He’s refreshing. Do I agree with everything? No, but...I’m anxious to see him in action.”
Dolan is the undisputed leader of the Catholic Church in America and this move puts that church squarely in the Romney camp in this election-- which is where they have no business belonging.
This is a dog whistle to all Catholics out there to support the GOP candidates, Paul Ryan proposed budget cuts to the poor notwithstanding, which had been criticized by other bishops.
Cardinal Dolan should really know better.
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Switch to the desktop site to post a comment.seanomelb | Aug 30, 2012, 11:09 PM EDT
Property my dear boy not garbage. Good profits in garbage especially sweeping little racists like you off you off the streets. Hmmmm might be a garbage opening there!! tell me what ad city do you live in I might invest in a truck or two
paddyRanger | Aug 30, 2012, 10:56 AM EDT
Pot, Kettle, Black...hypocrite you have the nerve to tell anyone to talk sense, you write the biggest load of garbage on here, get back in your garbage can failed businessman
seanomelb | Aug 30, 2012, 12:56 AM EDT
Crawl out of the gutter and make some sense idiot
paddyRanger | Aug 29, 2012, 05:54 PM EDT
Not only know what a tissue is.,....i know you are a racist failed businessman as well...so crawl back under your garbage can ..
seanomelb | Aug 28, 2012, 08:54 PM EDT
Hey!trailer trash ranger I'm surprised you know what a tissue is.
McNamara31 | Aug 28, 2012, 08:46 PM EDT
pilib04... A better choice for the Democratic convention would have been for the "nun's on the bus" to lead the convention in a prayer for the poor and disenfranchised who the GOP plan on leaving behind.
pilib04 | Aug 28, 2012, 01:16 PM EDT
Dolan offered and has announced that the Democrats have accepted his offer, to do the Benediction at the Democratic National Convention.
pilib04 | Aug 28, 2012, 01:06 PM EDT
Dolan backed down. He's is now doing both conventions. I'm sure he got a call from the boss.
paddyRanger | Aug 27, 2012, 10:06 PM EDT
bring one over moron....see who the wimp is then ...seaney cretin
seanomelb | Aug 27, 2012, 07:45 PM EDT
Poor paddyranger is upset hiding behind his PC. Have a tissue wimp.
Frosty38 | Aug 27, 2012, 11:22 AM EDT
SeamusMor I;m from Boston do not put him the Kennedy area
Frosty38 | Aug 27, 2012, 11:18 AM EDT
I watch the Mitt and then read the Boston GLobe and what the GOV had to say about what the NITT did for Mass. All of what MITT said some was not the real story. Fox News is just pee off because the Pres has NOT GONE INTO THE STATION, He has given sit downs with them at the WH but that does not count
Frosty38 | Aug 27, 2012, 11:14 AM EDT
Now Now Paddy I'm also a Catholic and I think this Nolan should be ashamed of himself . 1 he hols the highest part of our church. Somebody should let him no stay out of Politics and go back to where he belongs. Plus I watch a video today on the birthing thing, Ryan should watch it too. It is from the gov of Hawaii
paddyRanger | Aug 27, 2012, 08:12 AM EDT
I am Catholic, Seanomelb, so shove your Orange lodge comment down your throat if you were man enough to say to my face ...lol cowardly little leftish morons like you are big hiding behind a PC...
seanomelb | Aug 26, 2012, 09:10 PM EDT
Peggy P_ would you like to complete Wrights sentence and the rest of that particular speech or does your simple mind only except the Fox edited version where the truth lies on the cutting room floor.
Peggy P | Aug 26, 2012, 02:55 PM EDT
Oh My, what was the GOP thinking when they invited Cardinal Dolan to give closing prayer at Convention? Was the Good Reverand Wright not available to GOD DAMN AMERICA instead? Am sure Mr. "unbiased" O'Dowd you would consider that to be a much more appropriate closing.
seanomelb | Aug 26, 2012, 12:18 AM EDT
paddyranger so you are a Catholic whoopee doo-you're still a teabagging moron
McNamara31 | Aug 25, 2012, 08:11 PM EDT
slainte9 I Totally agree that the Republicans inherited Nativist tendencies. The sad reality in America is most Americans of Irish ancestry don't know a thing about the Nativist and their bigoted past towards us.
slainte9 | Aug 25, 2012, 02:38 PM EDT
Tom Mo. Ignorance is the handmaiden of bigotry. When many, but not all, Irish became affiliated with the Democrats, there was no Republican party. It's predecessors, Federalists and Whigs, had Nativist tendencies which the Republicans inherited. Moreover, what historians describe as Nativism was really Sassenach anti-Catholic and anti-Irish prejudice. Niall claims that's dead and gone, but you, Tom Mo, are living proof that it isn't.
allentown | Aug 25, 2012, 02:24 PM EDT
Eiriamach, did you write Tim Burton's response about his ad that portrayed Mitt Romney being responsible for a woman dying of cancer? Burton really reached for an explanation of his ad on CNN, as you are reaching for an explanation of : "He'll put you all back in chains" to a predominately black American audience.
paddyRanger | Aug 25, 2012, 01:34 PM EDT
Oh and another thing, why would I go back to an Orange Lodge, I am Catholic...what a typical stupid comment, you must be going for a record .....
paddyRanger | Aug 25, 2012, 10:30 AM EDT
haha seanomelb......."served your country" yeah right...good at lying like your moron friends on alphabet soup left media...
eiriamach | Aug 25, 2012, 10:15 AM EDT
allentown, harliemt's comment was no ad hominem but an accurate interpretation of your previous comment, and you've done it again by misrepresenting Joe Biden's words about chains as racist. On Tom Deignan's blog "The Problem with American Racism," adrienrain quoted the Battlefield Band's "When the poor hunt the poor/ Over mountain and moor/ The rich man can keep them in chains" (Aug 04 2:09 PM). It's unfortunate that Biden did not use adrienrain's quote instead of the words that brought mistaken criticism of racism on him. Biden's remark about "chains" used the same images the GOP uses to talk about unchaining the finance industry, in one word, "deregulation." He first quoted Paul Ryan on letting capitalists "write their own rules," "unchain Wall St," "unshackle the economy." That, not race slavery, was the context of his remark that GOP politics will "put y'all back in chains." We've seen deregulation enchain the middle-class with bailout costs of high-risk, greed-driven investments. We watched our own pensions, retirement savings, small businesses and mortgages disappear while CEO's reaped eight-digit bonuses for getting govt to bail out their corporations. Anyone like Dolan, who does not understand poverty as "chains," has never run a bank account to $1.50 before payday just to pay the bills and keep a roof overhead.
seanomelb | Aug 24, 2012, 11:53 PM EDT
Hey!! ding dong Paddy Ranger I have served my country. What was your contribution? the boy scouts. You like your moron friends on Fox left most of Wrights speech on the cutting room floor to deliberately misrepresent what he said. Hoping it would kill Obamas chances in 2008. Go back to your orange lodge and play your Lambegh drum
bbreathnach | Aug 24, 2012, 08:47 PM EDT
Well no surprise the Catholic Clergy want to jump into bed with the Republicans: one racially abused our Irish ancestors, the other sexually abuse our children. Not such strange bedfellows, at all.
allentown | Aug 24, 2012, 08:25 PM EDT
Harliemt, a typical Democrat ad Hominem response for the masses. Another response is: " Keep you-all in chains". However, I did enjoy you getting your comment over in one line.
McNamara31 | Aug 24, 2012, 06:00 PM EDT
maggiepoo Before you go calling people Demon-crat, lets remember... abortion was made law by the Supreme Court (of mainly GOP appointed judges) during the GOP Nixon administration. Since then Reagan,Bush 1 and Bush 2, have all had their opportunities in the area of abortion. Ask yourself, why does this become a major issue each campaign season for the GOP, and nothing changes when they are in control. Abortions occur worldwide; over 200,00 a year occurring in the home country of the Vatican, Italy . All of us are morally accountable for our actions, both good and bad. The last thing we need is a party who will block healthcare for the sick, cut aid to children, involve us in wars under false pretense (Iraq), financially bankrupt the middle class, destroy the environment with deregulation which favors the worst polluters,... then hypocritically hide behind the anthem of pro life only to pander to votes.T
jerrydonovan | Aug 24, 2012, 10:55 AM EDT
Now that Ryan has bought into Romney's position that it's O.K.to have an abortion if the child was conceived as a result of rape or incest,how can he or anyone claim that he is pro-life? When anyone is willing to compromise their principals especially on an issue as important as this for political purposes leaves me with no option other than to call him a HYPOCRITE1
hollabackgurl | Aug 24, 2012, 09:25 AM EDT
Buffoon is spelled b-u-f-f-o-o-n, Tom Mo. Since you have just admitted you're not Irish, may I nominate you a semi-literate troll? You certainly express yourself like one.
kerry214 | Aug 24, 2012, 02:38 AM EDT
With any luck Sister Simone Campbell and her "Nuns on a Bus" will run over the old boy. Dolan's a disgrace, but then again he has a long history of this behavior. Go hang with Mitt the Twit, go hang with Freddie Munster Ryan, and watch him in his weasel words sell the middle class down the river. And the Church wonders why it's losing members day by day. Examine your conscience Dolan!!!
Tippergirl | Aug 24, 2012, 12:30 AM EDT
Engaging in an activity that will have enormous visibility such as Cardinal Dolan's giving the closing prayer at the RNC, one can only conclude that the meer association with the event suggests his support thereof. It is hard to conclude any other understanding.
Tom Mo | Aug 23, 2012, 11:00 PM EDT
Let's cut the crap out. Obama is a socialist a hater of American values. Biden is a retard and a proven bufoon. That's your choice. Vote domocrat you Irish fools because your Grandpappy voted democratic. And that's because they were against the Republican Anti slave movement. Go for it McBlackpac. Study your American History.
tjdepere | Aug 23, 2012, 10:50 PM EDT
He honed his act in Milwaukee and took it to Broadway. Spotlight,ya man. That's me;that's what he lives for.principles forget. I am a Cardinal.
carlow98 | Aug 23, 2012, 10:36 PM EDT
“Cardinal Timothy Dolan to offer closing prayer at GOP convention in Florida -- Taking sides so openly in presidential election is not a very smart idea” And “Dolan is the undisputed leader of the Catholic Church in America and this move puts that church squarely in the Romney camp in this election-- which is where they have no business belonging.” Would liked to have read your ideas supporting why it is not a good idea and why they have no business in the Romney camp. You leave your readers hanging.
Tom Mo | Aug 23, 2012, 10:32 PM EDT
Mayolady darlin' You are so wrong melady.I would have no objection whatsoever to the good Cardinal saying a prayer for the Democrats. They need lots of prayers. Reading Ayn Rand does not mean one is an athiest, no more than reading The Manifesto makes one a Communist, or reading Mein Kamph makes one an Nazi. I've read all three and I am still a half way decent Christian. I will help my fellow man but I do not believe in working hard for a living and having to share my purse with some lazy, useless, tinker.
patrickesq | Aug 23, 2012, 09:49 PM EDT
What a sad day for the Catholic Church that a Cardinal would so brazenly cross the 'sacred' line separating church and state. By his very presence at the Republican convention as the prominent prayer giver (no matter what he says), he is implicitly endorsing Mr. Romney and the republican agenda as set forth in their platform. Unlike the essence of Christian faith, you will not find much, if any , compassion for the people of America who most need it in this far right agenda. Instead you will find proposals to shockingly reduce government benefits that help to sustain people in poverty of just above poverty. Medicare will be gutted for new enrollees, so that seniors can pay higher , unaffordable premiums that will benefit the big insurance companies. And our military/industrial complex will be rewarded with full government funding and more. Did the good cardinal readily agree to pray with the Republican Party because he was miffed that the Dept.of HRS(Obama Administration) could not agree to exempt Catholic hospitals and educational institutions from the requirements of the Affordable Care Act that female employees of covered employers be entitled to receive birth control medications like every other covered citizen. Despite the claims of the Church, this legislation passed by the US Congress does not infringe on any one's religious beliefs, but merely requires that all covered employers provide the same health benefits to each female employee without discrimination. The Church is still free to believe that artificial birth control is contrary to their christian doctrine, but they have no right to force non-believers to accept that widely rejected belief and forfeit their rights to receive federally mandated health benefits. Shame on the cardinal for his unprincipled partisanship!
pjmacmanus | Aug 23, 2012, 09:33 PM EDT
WWJD? The church is now the church of the Elites, what did you expect? I agree with others if the church plays politics they should pay taxes like the rest of us. By just being there is playing politics in my eyes
GLENBEIGHNATIVE | Aug 23, 2012, 09:11 PM EDT
.Do you know the difference between Ombama supporters and The supporters of the Next Pres. of the USA. Gov. Romney.. The Romney supporters Sign the front of the Check and the Ombama supporters sign the back of the Check.
tmcenroe | Aug 23, 2012, 09:07 PM EDT
What a great idea! Good for him!!
hollabackgurl | Aug 23, 2012, 08:53 PM EDT
Church's that play politics should pay taxes.
edmundburke | Aug 23, 2012, 08:38 PM EDT
Niall, you are blowing the matter way out of proportion. Giving benedictions at US party national conventions is considered an honor and a public service, not a political statement. Moreover, given the Republican support for the Catholic Bishops' correct position that the latest HHS rules on mandatory insurance are an infringement of religious liberty, particularly Catholic religious liberty, Dolan has acted in an understandable manner in accepting the invitation to do the prayer. No dog whistles here.
cillowen | Aug 23, 2012, 08:33 PM EDT
a guy that acts the clown and has to go to israel before he got that red skull cap - it makes for strangeness.
KatieMurphy | Aug 23, 2012, 08:03 PM EDT
the same cardinal who as archbishop of millwaukee cooked the books, moving church funds to funeral trusts so they wouldnt have to pay of the families of the molested kiddies BTW if you check around Irish times via google, you will find that 73 % of the irish people support changing the constitution to allow gays to marry. And google "pope UNexcommunciates Bishop Williamson" This happened in 2009, Williamson is a holocaust denier / minimizer who says there were no gas chambers in Germany etc No wonder the church is all but dead in Europe including ireland. This man is one of the many devils incarnate.
Mayolady | Aug 23, 2012, 07:44 PM EDT
Tom Mo, You are being very naive. IF he were speaking at Democratic convention, you as a clear Republican would be uncomfortable. Paul Ryan is the apostle of Ayn Rand who espouses social Darwinism: may the poor die because they are not strong enougn to deserve to life. That is not Christian. READ what Paul Ryan says. Read his speech on why he supports the ideas of Ayn Rand. I think that Cardinal Dolan is not Christian. He opposes abortion but does not want to extend healthcare to those children once born. What would Christ say?
Tom Mo | Aug 23, 2012, 07:32 PM EDT
The Cardinal has said that he woulld say a prayer at the DNC if he were invited. This has nothing to do with "Church and State" The big problen here is that Cardinal Dolan is an Irish Catholic. Not a Rabbi, or a Black Reverand, or a Mouslim. The problem is really Niall O'Dowd and another stupid article from Irish Central. You have a hang up Neill.
hollabackgurl | Aug 23, 2012, 07:27 PM EDT
Mifordmama you should probably refrain from political commentary until you can distinguish between an insult and a contemporary figure of speech.
milfordmama | Aug 23, 2012, 05:58 PM EDT
"This is a dog whistle to all Catholics out there"..... how insulting you are, Mr. O'Dowd. You are saying that Catholics are dogs. This is just the latest of your angry and hateful articles aimed at denigrating Catholics. I am very happy that Cardinal Dolan is giving the closing prayer. If you think it shows support for the Republicans, and gets more Catholics on board with them, then I think that is a good thing!!!! The Democrats may or may not have someone give a prayer, who knows? They have plenty of fake preacher types(like Rev. Al) and real preachers (like Rev. Wright) to choose from, but the Dems aren't really the "prayerful" types are they? I don't care if they have a prayer at the end or not, why do you care if Cardinal Dolan gives a prayer at the RNC convention? You need help, Niall, counseling perhaps ,to find out why you are so very hateful toward Catholics.
paddyRanger | Aug 23, 2012, 05:32 PM EDT
Being a Former Marine and Navy Corpsman do not make you a true American unless you retain those values all through life.......Anthony Sowell. Charles Whitman and Oswald Bailey and Lee Harvey Oswald are all former Marines...typical moronic comment from someone who most likely never did a day in Uniform
seanomelb | Aug 23, 2012, 05:24 PM EDT
Rev Wright was part of the medical team who cared for Lyndon Johnson when he had a heart attack (1965).He is a former marine and navy corpsman a true American.
jamthecat | Aug 23, 2012, 05:19 PM EDT
Niall, he's not "taking sides." he's just acknowledging which side he's on...and always has been on...and the hell with the teachings of Christ.
paddyRanger | Aug 23, 2012, 04:48 PM EDT
“Harliemt””” Gee Allentown, quite racist don't you think!...”” it’s not racist at all Farrakhan, Wright and Sharpton, are all up Obama’s alley…he sat and listened to Wright for 20 years (but missed the hateful anti American sermons!!)
paddyRanger | Aug 23, 2012, 04:41 PM EDT
Why would the Cardinal go to Ali Forney LGBT center ?? how many Imans and Rabbi's go there...but oh wait a catholic has to ignore his beliefs and go there......load of crock,
Harliemt | Aug 23, 2012, 04:34 PM EDT
Gee Allentown, quite racist don't you think!
colleenbawn | Aug 23, 2012, 04:29 PM EDT
As an Irish Catholic living in the USA, I must say, I don't like this man .He has a huge ego, is wealthy, well fed. hangs out with the rich and famous....sorta like the priests I grew up with in Ireland who had little contact with the local people unless they were members of the golf club like he was.
larslofan | Aug 23, 2012, 04:28 PM EDT
He knows a losing party and its dogma when he sees one. What was the stipend to the church? More tax-payer funded ideology for the American tax payer?
ritmomente | Aug 23, 2012, 04:28 PM EDT
Ah, another theology lesson from Niall O'Dowd. If Cardinal Dolan were pro-domestic partnership and pro-abortion, then I suppose it wouldn't make sense for him to appear at the RNC, would it? As allentown put it, the Democrats have a stunning array of "reverends".
allentown | Aug 23, 2012, 04:24 PM EDT
I think the Democrats should invite the Cardinal to give a prayer for them at their Convention. Oh well, if not the Cardinal, there is always the Reverends, Farrakhan, Wright and Sharpton.
PiperMac52 | Aug 23, 2012, 04:15 PM EDT
Now I wonder if this article would have appeared if it were the Democratic Convention. There is nothing wrong with a Prayer or invocation at ant political event. God knows we can use the prayers. Dems would be less likely to ask as they have become the secular humanist party.
porkheaven | Aug 23, 2012, 04:09 PM EDT
I think it is great and remember if the democrats ask him he would pray at their convention. Newspapers should report the news objectively and quit trying to influence our way of like.
alongester | Aug 23, 2012, 03:59 PM EDT
Wakey Wakey people?? Dont ye know Politics and Religion definitely dont Mix!! He can pray for them---and God know they need it to keep on the straight and narrow---in his own parish church. But then again there is The Ego!!!!
eiriamach | Aug 23, 2012, 03:42 PM EDT
Point, counterpoint, well handled, Hollaback.
hollabackgurl | Aug 23, 2012, 03:30 PM EDT
Cardinal Dolan was invited by the Ali Forney Center in NYC to meet with homeless gay teenagers (thrown out of their homes by their own parents). It was an opportunity for him to witness the effects of religious and social prejudice first hand. He declined that invitation and blasted the organization. I'm sure Jesus would have scoffed at it too and blessed the GOP Convention instead.
PhlutiePhan | Aug 23, 2012, 03:26 PM EDT
In Freudian terms, this article is "projection". You see in others the very problems that you yourself have. Dolan, albeit with 'tongue in cheek', gave a similar opportunity to the Demos. Since our mutual friend Mr. O'Bama is evidently anti prayer, he will not take the bait. Cardinal Dolan had invited both candidates to speak at the Al Smith Dinner for Catholic Charities. He should invite neither. As a centrist conservative, I will remark that the Irish JFK was profuse with prayer. The marxist Obama dovetails nicely with Gerry Adams and Mr. O'Dowd "doth protest too much".
kdavitt | Aug 23, 2012, 03:18 PM EDT
@hollbackgurl - I am by no means a fan of the Cardinal. I'm Catholic and appalled at much of his conservativeness. However, the man has shown himself to be open to dialogue, evidenced by his recent decisions to ignore the more conservative elements in the Church, like Rev. Frank Pavone, head of Priests for Life, by "dis-inviting" the President to the Al Smith Dinner in NY or by cancelling the event entirely. As to your comment "One place you will never see Dolan is ...serving dinner in a food kitchen," you should do your research first before making those kind of accusation. I stood next to the Cardinal recently at the kitchen for the homeless of St. Francis Xavier Church on W, 31st St., in Manhattan. He brightened up the weary dispositions of many a discouraged soul there while nourishing their bodies as well.
seanaci | Aug 23, 2012, 03:13 PM EDT
SeamusMor, a religions temporal interests are no different from that of a bank, football franchise or oil company and, yes, the Catholic Church has plenty of them. Its doctrinal or spiritual interests should be directed at its practicing members, not at society in general. Like all organized religions it falls into the trap of conflating deciding who can park based on its property based on specific man-granted legal rights with its self appointed spiritual mission based on its leaders hearing the voice of its god in their heads.
hollabackgurl | Aug 23, 2012, 02:40 PM EDT
A fat, white, rich, fundamentalist male conservative wants to bless the GOP? Color me shocked! One place you will never see Dolan is washing dishes or serving dinner in a food kitchen. The convention will open with a hurricane and finish with a gust of hot air.
Maureen15 | Aug 23, 2012, 02:33 PM EDT
I am from New York and I think Dolan should do his praying at St. Patrick's Cathedral. He should not be praying at any political convention.....as much as they might need to be prayed with and for!!
SeamusMor | Aug 23, 2012, 02:26 PM EDT
Whether or not one approves of it, the Catholic Church has temporal interests and exerts political power in furtherance of, and, when necessary, in defense of them. In particular, the President's healthcare law conflicts with Church doctrine and Catholic healthcare policies, hence deposing Obama in favor of a new regime composed of like minded leadership is indicated. It is the smart move! Paul Ryan is living the next chapter of "Profiles in Courage" by addressing the issues surrounding federal social program's unfunded liabilities, our "crazy aunt in the attic" whom no one else will talk about. Ryan has courage and charisma, which places him squarely on track to become the next Irish Catholic president, one whose enlightened rule from a modern day "Kincora" may rival the failed and tarnished "Camelot" of the Kennedys.
pilib04 | Aug 23, 2012, 02:22 PM EDT
redhand32, you got it right. Not a shred of difference between Robme-Ryan and the Blueshirts.
SeamusMor | Aug 23, 2012, 02:22 PM EDT
Whether or not one approves of it, the Catholic Church has temporal interests and exerts political power in furtherance of, and, when necessary, in defense of them. In particular, the President's healthcare law conflicts with Church doctrine and Catholic healthcare policies, hence deposing Obama in favor of a new regime composed of like minded leadership is indicated. It is the smart move! Paul Ryan is living the next chapter of "Profiles in Courage" by addressing the issues surrounding federal social program's unfunded liabilities, our "crazy aunt in the attic" whom no one else will talk about. Ryan has courage and charisma, which places his squarely on track to become the next Irish Catholic president, one whose enlightened rule from a modern day "Kincora" may rival the failed and tarnished "Camelot" of the Kennedys.
pilib04 | Aug 23, 2012, 02:17 PM EDT
My dad was a daily communicant. Even when he was young. One thing he shared with me when I was a teen in the early 60's. He told me never to trust a Priest or a Bishop when it comes to voting. They don't work for a living.
seanaci | Aug 23, 2012, 02:15 PM EDT
Organized religions of all shades are just that - organizations. And I can't think of any organization in history including the nation-state where those in control have not turned on those in the organization and on society in general for their own selfish interests. Keep your relationship with your god personal and private and don't try to impose your beliefs and behavior on others and we'll all be better off. The leader of one of the more recent religions that inevitably declined into bickering and partisanship put it well even if no one is listening any more; "love one another."
pilib04 | Aug 23, 2012, 02:12 PM EDT
Citizenwhy, you didn't!
paddyRanger | Aug 23, 2012, 02:08 PM EDT
Don't be stupid Hollabackgurl......you don't have to drive a tank ........YET, just respond with expressing your voice in a 1st amendment right
handsome68 | Aug 23, 2012, 02:06 PM EDT
My friend and I, both of us practicing Roman Catholics in New York City, can't fathom what to make of some of Cardinal Dolan's decisions. Many seem, to me anyway, to be lose-lose situations, like the decision to have Pres. Obama at the Al Smith Dinner. I mean, Dolan and Obama are engaged in litigation, for (St.) Pete's sake.
kaydog1 | Aug 23, 2012, 02:00 PM EDT
Well, Niall, Obama has come out firmly in favor of Sodomy and of Butchering the unborn just as Often and as Late as he can, and he is forcing Catholic organizations to pay the cost through their employees' insurance policies, so just how SHOULD we expect the US Catholic Cardinals to align themselves? Don't you know ANYTHING about Catholicism, Niall? Don't let the behavior of the Liberal nuns and Bishops who run Catholic Relief Services as a Leftist supporter of abortion services fool you, Niall - Dolan is showing the true face of Cztholic beliefs here.
hollabackgurl | Aug 23, 2012, 01:57 PM EDT
Yes Dublinborn, your first amendment rights of freedom of religion are so under attack by the extreme left that you have to drive a tank to church on Sunday.
Dublinborn | Aug 23, 2012, 01:36 PM EDT
excuse us please...... when your first amendment rights of freedom of religion is under attack by the extreme left you have every right to exercise them
rainbowbrew | Aug 23, 2012, 01:31 PM EDT
Iris a money game How much did Romney have to give the bishop? They usually require the money up front as well. Too bad the catholic leaders are so out of touch and hateful. They pursued my Mom for years with their Bs
JHShanahan | Aug 23, 2012, 01:20 PM EDT
Niall says: "Cardinal Dolan should really know better." To which I say, "Amen."
Nicomax | Aug 23, 2012, 01:18 PM EDT
Since political conventions and elections for public office are strictly secular affairs, and also our constitution says there shall be no religious test for any public office, then you wonder why they have clerics speaking at all? But let's listen to Dolan to be sure he does not say, "On second thought we now believe Jesus did spend some time in Missouri." This would be clearly favoring once candidate over the other.
JimmyJK | Aug 23, 2012, 01:03 PM EDT
Are they going to say a prayer for ALL of the sexual abuse victims? blackstone - can we cut government spending and cut taxes for the wealthy at the same time? Can we cut the military spending which is 20% of yearly expenditure!!! 20%..... 20% of out total! for what?? Walking on the darkside if you do not support early term abortion? Early term meaning early 1st trimester where there is no brain development? Rape, Incest.. no matter, still on the dark side? Did you think GW Bush was a great president? He doubled out debt, HE DOUBLED OUR DEBT not anyone else. Obama inherited that...sounds like fun huh.... all the while GW let the financial industry run totally amuck....and nearly destroy the world economy and we are going to blame Obama?
Scottmcgowan | Aug 23, 2012, 12:50 PM EDT
I happen to be a registered democrat but I do not vote strictly on party lines. I plan to vote for President Obama at this time. However, I take great issue with Mr. O'Dowd's take on this. The Cardinal is saying a PRAYER - not campaigning. Will not the Democrats have clerics saying prayers at their convention, including a Catholic one? We are a democracy with different parties contending for office - and that is the way I want it. As I said, I am a registered Democrat but I have voted for Republicans and independents on various occasions because my first choice is for a candidate and not the party.
blackstone | Aug 23, 2012, 12:50 PM EDT
O'Dowd is a total idiot. He is a beacon of uninformed, dishonest journalism. What is wrong with any denomination, be it Catholic or otherwise giving the closing prayer at the GOP? Dolan said he would pray at the DNC as well if asked, so how is that taking sides? What a misleading heading for this article. Typical progressive move, just lie. You Irish have your head so far up your a## no wonder your country is such a mess. You've all turned into a bunch of loser socialists that resent the U S power. You want to see Obama reelected so the U S can travel down the same road towards economic disaster as the rest of you, no thanks. Get your own country in order before giving advice. The GOP has a pro life platform, the Catholic church should clearly be supportive of that.Abortion is not a halfway issue, either you support life or you are walking on the dark side, there is no in between.I'm would guess O'dowd is a dark side dweller. Obama talks out of both sides of his mouth and is the most dangerously incompetent president ever. And this drivel about the GOP cutting spending for the poor, oh puleeze, O'Dowd you know nothing !! we are talking entitlement programs that are bankrupting the country.Everyone is going to be poor if government spending isn't reigned in and cuts made across the board including defense.Thank you Dolan for not being a wimp.
JimmyJK | Aug 23, 2012, 12:49 PM EDT
Dolan is currently suing the Obama admin. so it's probably not a good idea for him to be front and center at GOP convention... The republicans have created an environment whereby they seem to NOT care what women think about their bodies and abortion, similar to the church unfortunately. The romney/ryan plan has Already been rebuked by the US bishops for it's lack of support to the poor and needy and middle class. the budget plan reduces taxes on the top earnes and shifts the burden to the middle class. Their has been a systematic effort to undermine the middle class in regards to tax burdens in the past 40 years Does Cardinal Dolan have a viewpoint on the environment??? The republicans environmental record is HORRIBLE. They are basically denying climate change which 99% of scientists say is real.
McNamara31 | Aug 23, 2012, 12:41 PM EDT
GerryMaine... Maybe your forgot this: Abortion was made legal by the mainly GOP Supreme Court during the time of Richard Nixon. I think you are pointing the finger (party of death) in the wrong direction when your think of its origins.
McNamara31 | Aug 23, 2012, 12:41 PM EDT
the republicans party has become the defenders of vampires... the financial sector greed that created our current situation is re-inforced by the budget proposed by romney/ryan the view of big government and "rights and freedom" is sooo miscontrued that if you ask a republican they can not answer you clearly the republicans are deniers of climate change.... again the are deniers of climate change the republicans do not, like the current church, respect woman enough to allow them into the main spot light to discuss their bodies and abortion and how the laws should be.... the middle class has been systematically broken down by the republicans in the last say 40 years come to your senses
Commonsence | Aug 23, 2012, 12:41 PM EDT
While I'm not surprised, I am disappointed. Cardinals and Bishops have historically been the US Catholic Church's congress. The people's supposed representatives to the governing body(Rome). Surveys tell us that everyday catholics hold them in the same esteem as they hold the US Congress, low. This guy makes it an easy judgement. He's a hack and far from a warrior, more like Rome's attack dog. Women who can find any reason to support the Republican Party or its ticket should be prayed for, they need help. Perhaps the majority of women, the young and educated can help their sisters. No "real" man can support this ticket, only those of the male gender who actually fear women (like bishops)are on the side of Republicans!
CitizenWhy | Aug 23, 2012, 12:36 PM EDT
I think Dolan has fallen in love with the hunky Ryan.
mayoman | Aug 23, 2012, 12:18 PM EDT
If Cardinal Dolan wants to throw his misguided support to the GOP and Mitt Romney, we should all demand that the Church's tax-exempt status be terminated immediately.
GerryMaine | Aug 23, 2012, 12:18 PM EDT
Considering that the Democratic Party in the United States has become the party of death, I think it's perfectly appropriate for a Catholic cleric who supports life to pray with the Republican Party.
Nicoletta | Aug 23, 2012, 12:16 PM EDT
Cardinal Dolan is able to handle the press which is a great asset to the Church in the current atmosphere of media hostility. Would you prefer him to be a tongue-tied twit, Mr O'Dowd?
irishpjk | Aug 23, 2012, 12:13 PM EDT
wtf I was only voting for Mitt to save America and our way of life from destruction by Obama and law breaking big government, now I have another reason. God bless America, Mitt and the good Cardinal.
Kells46 | Aug 23, 2012, 12:13 PM EDT
I am totally disgusted with this man! Religion has no place in politics and Dolan has more than got his work cut out dealing with ALL the problems in the Church, a Church I left 2 years ago at the age of 63 due to the behavior of hierarchy like him. These people do not represent Christ on earth. They are pompous, self indulging fat men who think they have the right to tell "us" how we should live and who we should vote for. How dare they!! Time the "Church" took a long hard look at itself and the people who "represent" it. Do the work you vowed to do. Take care of the poor, feed the hungry and give yourself a shove away from the table now and then. That is how you do the work of Christ on earth, something neither Romney nor Ryan would know or understand.
McNamara31 | Aug 23, 2012, 11:58 AM EDT
FatherVol Hypocrisy you say !If this was the local Florida Bishop or clergy, people would agree with you, however you and I know, this is Cardinal Dolan of NEW YORK the Vatican appointed warrior to stop the passing of healthcare in the United State.
mikehoulihan | Aug 23, 2012, 11:58 AM EDT
Why shouldn't the Cardinal support the Republican party? The Dems are going to be celebrating the killing of innocent babies at their convention and last I heard, abortion was considered an immoral abomination by the Catholic Church. How can Dems expect support of the church when they continually bash and oppose everything the Church stands for? Just like you do, Niall O'Dowd, you faker!
rugbyplayer | Aug 23, 2012, 11:44 AM EDT
Dolan like Romney is a phoney and a terrible choice as both bishop and cardinal of New York. He is openly and shamelessly attempting with the help of the US Conference of Catholic Bishops to sway Catholics into backing the GOP in the upcoming presidential race. He should be removed and the New York's Archdiocese tax exemption should be revoked for its arrogant and openly political interference in USA government affairs.
FatherVol | Aug 23, 2012, 11:35 AM EDT
So, are you suggesting that the Republican Party can't have a closing prayer at its convention or that they can have a prayer as long as it is not a Catholic prayer? It would be OK for a Baptist minister, e.g., Billy Graham, to lead eeh prayer, but not Cardinal Dolan. It would be OK for a Morman minister (or whatever they are called) to lead the prayer, but not Cardinal Dolan. It would be OK for the Episcopal bishop of whatever diocese to lead the prayer, but not Cardinal Dolan. It would be OK for Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton to lead the prayer but not Cardinal Dolan. Hypocrisy!
pdm6288 | Aug 23, 2012, 11:21 AM EDT
Blah, blah, blah, Niall. Who cares? Do you think that we need your pompous commentary on Dolan's appearance at the RNC convention. Hopefully, enough voters will use their own brains and vote their own conscience and not be swayed by you or Dolan or Obama and his minions. For everyone bashing Ryan & Romney for their incomes, why are you absolving Clinton and not recognizing the fact that he and his family lived off of govt for so many years and used his govt career as a springboard to become a multi-millionaire with our current president following right behind in Clinton's footsteps. Open your eyes folks. Clinton & Obama are Romney wannabe's. Niall's jealous...he loves the limelight too!
johnwelsh0 | Aug 23, 2012, 11:15 AM EDT
When Obama and his Democrats strongly support gay marriage and impose new rules on Catholic institutions concerning birth control and abortion, then Cardinal Dolan has the responsibility to the church and its faithful members to openly support candidates who are not in opposition to Catholic principals. This election is too important for some Irish to blindly back the Democrats. In the long run, one's religion trumps his politics.
Jerry Kelly | Aug 23, 2012, 11:14 AM EDT
Creidim sa Spiorad Naomh, san Eaglais Naofa Chaitliceach.... Yes, I do believe in the Holy Catholic Church, but not in bunch of losers, pedophiles, and their pimps who have been running it since soon after Vatican II.
Mousemess | Aug 23, 2012, 11:11 AM EDT
I don't call Paul Ryan's plans to turn Medicare into a voucher scheme and thus eventually kill it any "solicitude to the poor". He wants to wipe it out so he can give more "charity" to the ones who need it least like the millionaires and billionaires of the USA.
The Commentator | Aug 23, 2012, 11:09 AM EDT
DISGUSTING - BUT CERTAINLY APPROPRIATE FOR THE GOP ANOTHER PEDOPHILE PROTECTOR MONEY IS GOD IN THE GOP Cardinal Timothy Dolan authorized payments to pedophile priests of up to $20,000 to get them to leave the priesthood when he was Archbishop of Milwaukee new documents have revealed. Dolan had once described that allegation as “false,preposterous and unjust” but the archdiocese has now admitted that it occurred. Dolan was the Archbishop of the diocese at the time. During the meeting, Dolan and Milwaukee auxiliary Bishop Richard Sklba discussed using the Church’s funds to pay off known pedophiles with $20,000 to leave the priesthood, setting up “restorative justice” to prevent victims receiving compensation, and moving millions of dollars from the archdiocese into a new “trust” before the Archdiocese declared bankruptcy. SNAP (Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests ) alleges that Dolan deliberately mislead victims about the Church’s prior knowledge of abusive priests. Where did the money go? Probably in offshore accounts with Romney's. If they must have a religious leader open or close their convention, why don't they get Thomas S Monson to say a few words. Just saying !!!
joeustace | Aug 23, 2012, 11:07 AM EDT
I am sorry indeed to hear such disingenuous statements from the Cardinal. I also regret the degree of political participation, because he subjects himself and the Church to political attacks, which underminse the Church's authority.
susan724 | Aug 23, 2012, 11:07 AM EDT
What do expect - Dolan's organization's philosophy is the same as the Republican Party's: women are second class citizens.
susan724 | Aug 23, 2012, 11:04 AM EDT
valley voice- two thumbs up!!
valley voice | Aug 23, 2012, 11:00 AM EDT
Well the blessed cardinal should fit right in with the re-publicans. He is already saying one thing while doing another. That is how RNC is running the entire campagin.
jerrydonovan | Aug 23, 2012, 10:59 AM EDT
It will be interesting to watch{probably the only thing that I will watch}Dolan speaking while trying to extract his foot from his mouth.Remember,if it waddles like a duck ,quacks like a duck,has feathers and you see it in a pond/convention,then chances are it is a duck.Face it DOLAN IS A REPUBLICAN.Apologies to the ducks..
eiriamach | Aug 23, 2012, 10:59 AM EDT
Card. Dolan praised Ryan's “obvious solicitude for the poor”? Oh year, when Ryan and Romney are not planning to raise taxes on incomes below $20,000 by 60 percent, Ryan probably volunteers at a homeless shelter and cooks free meals for needy families. How gullible does the cardinal think we are?
Tom Mo | Aug 23, 2012, 10:48 AM EDT
Good for Cardinal Dolan. I hope he prays for a GOP victory and I hope the Good Lord hears his prayers. Not taking sides in this very important election where the future of America is at stake is the mark of a coward. You have a socialist and a buffoon running against two brilliant Americans to guide this great in the future. The socialist and the buffoon with their lies and distortions have the full backing of the media, including Irish Central. I pray that the Cardinal's presence at the GOP convention sways Irish Catholics to vote the Romney/Ryan ticket.
seanfer7 | Aug 23, 2012, 10:44 AM EDT
egomaniac
McNamara31 | Aug 23, 2012, 10:35 AM EDT
Cardinal Dolan is clearly and purposely violating the separation of church and state by appearing at the convention of one particular political party. This can only be interpreted (once again) as the Cardinal of New York telling Catholics how to vote.If Catholics can't see that politics are being "played" here, they deserve the the type of government and religious over reach that is being presented at this convention.I was baptized Catholic, not Republican Cardinal Dolan, and it thoroughly disappoints me that even though members of the USCCB have declared the Ryan budget "IMMORAL" you still choose to stand at there side.
PaulFagan | Aug 23, 2012, 10:29 AM EDT
Agree.
pndirishandprou | Aug 23, 2012, 10:27 AM EDT
The Catholic Church is supposed to stay out of politics. The Vatican repeatedly excommunicated or threatened to excommunicate so-called liberation theologists in Latin America for siding with the poor, abused and downtrodden. The non-political nature of the Catholic church apparently does not apply when they support right-wing causes. It will not matter in this election. The Catholic Church is damaged goods in the eyes of the population at large, and they appear to have influence only with the thoroughly brain-washed right-wing Irish-American electorate.
CelticQueenUSA | Aug 23, 2012, 10:26 AM EDT
I remember the uproar when JFK ran for President. He could not even bless himself in public lest the GOP roar "separation of politics and religion" (especially Catholics) WHAT CHANGED??
TreeDetective | Aug 23, 2012, 10:22 AM EDT
God Bless Cardinal Dolan! A man of courage against the bullies.
mamaginnty | Aug 23, 2012, 10:22 AM EDT
Rome should never again be allowed into political scenes, or any other religion for that matter.
johnozed | Aug 23, 2012, 10:16 AM EDT
Lights, Camera, DOLAN! Just hope they use the wide angle lens.
redhand32 | Aug 23, 2012, 10:16 AM EDT
GOP aka the Christian Taliban. So what else is new ? Bishops blessed the Blue Shirts in Dun Laighoire as they sailed to fight for Franco, 1929 Italian-Vatican "Agreement" See No Evil Pius XII. This is the smoking gun for revocation of church tax exemptions. And, to show that I am consistent, Black churches too should have their tax exemptions revoked for partisan politics in the pulpit. The only good bishop was Oscar Romero.
travelmpq | Aug 23, 2012, 10:06 AM EDT
So much for your column about the Catholic bishops condemning Paul Ryan, which you took lock, stock and barrell from the "Catholic Democrats," whatever they are. An oxymoron perhaps?
jflanagan | Aug 23, 2012, 09:51 AM EDT
The Democrats have an accused rapist, convicted perjurer and disbarred attorney opening their convention. Their late hero, Teddy, was a womanizer who killed a young lady who happened to have the bad judgment of riding in his car. I'm not a Republican but I know better than to speak about one party or the others moral values.
hermitTalker | Aug 23, 2012, 09:51 AM EDT
More DumbCluckology. It is quite common for USA political leaders and organisations to have prayers at their gatherings and at meals, City Council meetings and in their Leglslatures- been prayers by chaplains in Congress since the Continental Congress from the start. Cdl Timothy Dolan is not going as a member of the GOP but as PONCCB, elected head in 2012 of the US bishops' Conference and a high profile archbishop of New York. We should care less about why Mr Romney invited him, but it was a very astute political move. It will not wave a magic wand and get Catholics to see the stupidity of re-electing a failed leader after three years, who also antagonised believers 9freedom of religion is "freedom to worship" only, struck at First Amendment Rights, lied by breaking a promise to Cdl Dolan about the HHS Mandate, a key area where Conscience is not King, but slave to Obama's agenda of the Culture of Death.
hollabackgurl | Aug 23, 2012, 09:46 AM EDT
Screw the poor and the downtrodden, lets have a five course dinner at your mansion or my Cardinal's palace - what do you say Paul? We're both wealth creators, we deserve to take a break, you with me buddy?
pilib04 | Aug 23, 2012, 09:39 AM EDT
Yep, same Cardinal Dolan who paid the priest-rapists 20 grand each! He should resign, but we all know that isn't happening. If ever ends up going to court he will just skip off to the Vatican like his buddies in crime, Bernard Law and William Levada.
MommaOBoys | Aug 23, 2012, 09:38 AM EDT
I am glad he'll be offering Benediction at the Republican National Convention. Why shouldn't he be with people who share the Church's moral values? Why should he be at the Democratic convention whose participants demean anyone who is against gay marriage and think abortion on demand is okay?
Sarge524 | Aug 23, 2012, 09:38 AM EDT
My guess, God is on Mitt side and this is a clear indication.
johhnyb | Aug 23, 2012, 09:33 AM EDT
Hi Niall, Is it smart of Irish Central to openly take sides? You do nothing else. Best wishes.
jflanagan | Aug 23, 2012, 09:32 AM EDT
Niall, you are a dolt. The Cardinal probably realizes that the present politicians are spending my Grandchildren's and Great Granddaughters' money while they are not even old enough to vote for or against this middle class lowering policy. You and the others who support this man keep citing the "failed Bush policies". I agree his policy of growing government and overspending was failed. I also agree that President Obama is Bush on steroids. He is buidling on the failed Bush policies and then some. At least Romney/Ryan have the foresight to do something before we become so impoverished no one will be helped in the future.
tom/peggy | Aug 23, 2012, 09:29 AM EDT
I'm sure that if Cardinal Dolan was attending and praying at the Democratic Convention it would be just fine with Niall.
fitzcarraldo | Aug 23, 2012, 09:28 AM EDT
It has been clear for a decade that the Catholic hierarchy has been in the pocket of the Republican Party. They are predictable shills for the establishment.
hollabackgurl | Aug 23, 2012, 09:22 AM EDT
Wait, Jesus rubbed shoulders with millionaires and stayed at their homes enjoying lavish dinners too. Kidding, no he didn't. If you think either of these men give a fig for the daily realities of average Americans then you deserve what you'll get under a Romney-Ryan presidency: GWB part two and nothing else. It's repulsive to see Dolan endorse the Republican party but that's all he's ever done. That's what he does on Saint Patrick's Day on Fifth Avenue too. He's a tool of the GOP.
hollabackgurl | Aug 23, 2012, 08:23 AM EDT
I agree with Niall that the good cardinal's appearance on the GOP podium in Tampa is intentional and deliberate - and intended to send a clear message to the Catholic faithful as to how they should vote come November. Considering Paul Ryan's contempt for the working poor and shrinking middle class it is perplexing that Dolan has embraced him. On the other hand, Cardinal Dolan in the spotlight in Tampa makes perfect sense. The GOP is increasingly controlled by the religious right - the looney right. Indeed, it is perhaps time to reverse the GOP to POG, Party of God, meaning zealous, doctrinaire, no mercy, no prisoners, no compromise - not unlike Islamic fundamentalism.