
Thank goodness for good journalism.
In one of the best examples of digging beneath the headlines Washington Post columnist Dana Milbank has skewered the nonsense from the right that crime on the Arizona border is out of control.
Instead he finds the border has never been more secure.
Milbank believes Arizona governor Jan Brewer,(above), has lost her mind.
He uses this quote "Our law enforcement agencies have found bodies in the desert either buried or just lying out there that have been beheaded," she announced on local television.
Turns out there is not a shred of evidence to support her claim.
Medical examiners in Arizona's border counties say they had never seen an immigration-related beheading. Brewer's press office refused to comment when asked to defend their claim.
Milbank also nails several other immigration falsehoods being spread by Arizona politicians.
He says these include "Border violence on the rise? Phoenix becoming the world's No. 2 kidnapping capital? Illegal immigrants responsible for most police killings? The majority of those crossing the border are drug mules? All wrong."
He quotes the Arizona Republic which published an exhaustive report that found that, according to the FBI and Arizona police agencies, crime in Arizona border towns has been "essentially flat for the past decade."
For instance , "In 2000, there were 23 rapes, robberies and murders in Nogales, Ariz. Last year, despite nearly a decade of population growth, there were 19 such crimes."
The Pima County sheriff stated that "the border has never been more secure."
FBI statistics also show violent crime in all of the border states are lower than they were a decade ago.
Enter Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) who claims that violence is "the worst I have ever seen."
When President Obama told the truth last week that "the southern border is more secure today than any time in the past 20 years," Rush Limbaugh said the president was "fit for the psycho ward" on the basis of his remarks.
Despite this McCain told NBC, ABC and CNN that Phoenix is the "No. 2 kidnapping capital of the world" behind only Mexico City based on an entirely erroneous ABC report in February 2009 "
In fact kidnappings in Phoenix are declining.
Then there's Brewer's claim that "the majority" of people immigrating illegally "are coming here and they're bringing drugs, and they're doing drop houses and they're extorting people and they're terrorizing the families. That is the truth."
How come then the Border Patrol's Tucson Sector has apprehended more than 170,000 undocumented immigrants since Oct. 1, but only about 1,100 drug prosecutions have been filed in Arizona in that time.
So where Milbank asks is this "terrible border security crisis" that Brewer claims has only "gotten worse"?
Fact is it is not remotely as bad as the anti immigrant groups are claiming.
Milbank has done a great service by pointing that out.
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Switch to the desktop site to post a comment.maloney | Sep 07, 2010, 08:52 PM EDT
Never let the truth get in the way of another obama lie!!
maloney | Sep 07, 2010, 08:49 PM EDT
I used to live in Scottsdale AZ. I have many friends that live there still. Dana Milbank is a liar. No surprise, she works for the washington post, another liberal obama loving rag about to go under like the times. O'dowd.. you should be ashamed to perpetuate these lies. Do your homework, oh I forgot, your just another liberal hack yourself. July 2010 body found beheaded in AZ. just across boarder by local sheriff. Other bodies without heads found across southwest US, Also in TN. KY. & ILL. Now who's the liar. O'Dowd, get it right or shut up, obama lover.
DeaconJack | Aug 08, 2010, 11:40 AM EDT
My cousin, who is a Trooper there would probably pop his top to read this piece of trash reporting. Did Milbank choose his interview questions soas to put the Gov.in a bad light???? Hmmmmmm?
hancock | Aug 02, 2010, 12:55 PM EDT
Nancy you are a right wing bigot, how dare you say anything different than the all knowing Irish and Australian expert immigration commentators.
NancyLou9 | Aug 02, 2010, 10:33 AM EDT
As someone who lives in Arizona less than a mile from the border, I can assure you our gracious Governor is NOT exaggerating the situation in any way, shape or form. The truth of the matter is: Of COURSE the coroners are going to say they have no be-headings related to the drug trade and illegals because no one has been caught so blame and motive can be placed. However, the be-headings ARE happening and they are done so different gangs from the south can gain control of favorable drug routes into Arizona. Currently, near Yuma, there are 2,000 acres of a National Park that had to be abandoned because of the danger to Americans (and anyone else who wishes to enjoy the beauty of the region) to go there, except people involved in the drug and illegal alien trades. How easy for Seanomelbourne to stand there, high on his self-proclaimed high horse to judge the US, a country with a history of accepting LEGAL immigrants, when his country is filled with descendants of criminals from the UK which would lead one to believe HE is the descendant of a criminal sent to Aussie land by the UK. Sean - you don't live here and you have no right to judge us for how we choose to take care of an expensive and on-going problem - one the feds don't care to address. I LIVE here, I LIVE in Arizona, I LIVE on the border, I SEE the problem, up close and personal. I SEE the fires, I SEE the dead/stolen live stock, I SEE the burned homes, I SEE the stolen cars and trucks, I SEE the accidents caused by illegals who have no insurance or driver's license, I SEE them processed and returned to Mexico - only to try it again the next day. I SEE it all, not you. Now go hit a pub and drink yourself stupid - oh, wait, you already did, and let the good people who actually SEE the problem take care of their own business. When your country is in order, THEN you MIGHT be able to tell us what to do - and we still won't listen.
ThomasCoolberth | Jul 25, 2010, 03:23 PM EDT
Its "illegal" immigrant. We have laws that regulate immigration just like Ireland does. How about we ship the 20 million illegals to Ireland if the invasion is so benign.
seanomelbourne | Jul 20, 2010, 08:32 PM EDT
Maybe!!!
hancock | Jul 19, 2010, 10:46 PM EDT
You're kidding , right?
seanomelbourne | Jul 19, 2010, 08:10 PM EDT
That's ok hancock when you have nothing of interest to say be an attack dog and yap on and on ad infinitum.
HBDuncan | Jul 18, 2010, 11:11 AM EDT
@Starlet Gov. Brewer did not ever have a compaign. Brewer became Governor of Arizona as part of the line of succession as determined by the Arizona Constitution after the resignation of Janet Napolitano after being selected as Secretary of Homeland Security in 2009. This is a security issue which should have been addressed years ago and not a race issue. The fact is what the government is sueing bout is not racial issues. Florida, Texas, and seven other states filed a brief supporting Arizona's law aimed at cracking down on illegal migrants after the U.S. government sued to block enforcement of the law. Arizona's statute does not establish an immigration policy that would interfere with federal law. The federal government seeks to negate the pre-existing power of all the states to simply verify a persons immigration status. Eight states have joined in the brief and our in support of Arizona. Current US policies have resulted in the state being "under attack" from Mexican Drug and immigrant smuggling cartels I believe that D. Milbank has an agenda as to why she refused to acknowledge the legitimacy of Arizona and Gov. Brewer best interest, care and concern for all citizens (multicultural and legal) in the great state of Arizona. What is the agenda of the government except to take away all states rights which is unconstitutional? What is at stake next the sovereignty of America next? This is just the beginning as we crated a monster. The government is to serve the people not oppress them and instigate crisis for their progressive/socialist NWO agenda! Not on my watch!
hancock | Jul 18, 2010, 12:57 AM EDT
The US jails illegal immigrants who commit crimes. Is that OK with you. Worry about your own country.
seanomelbourne | Jul 18, 2010, 12:00 AM EDT
I'm Irish Hancock. By the way the U.S. jail illegal immigrants how tough is that. Maybe your not looking at the problem objectively enough.
Ajreaper | Jul 17, 2010, 10:19 PM EDT
Immigration policies are in no way related to secure borders- 2 entirely different things as is an immigration policy that is not enforced.
hancock | Jul 17, 2010, 02:24 AM EDT
Australia and Mexico have a much tougher immigration policy than the joke that is the US border. America takes in more legal immigrants each yr than those two countries combined. A typical lefty crybaby, I thought Australians were men.
seanomelbourne | Jul 17, 2010, 01:53 AM EDT
Hancock I suppose you would have sent them back in their leaky boats to drown as the previous conservative government did in Australia. Or maybe gas chambers whatever fulfills your racist fancy.
AmAncINED | Jul 16, 2010, 05:28 PM EDT
My Hispanic sister-in-law's grandparents and their siblings entered the U.S. from Mexico LEGALLY. They learned English and fulfilled all the requirements to become Am. citizens. They deeply resent all those who enter the U.S. illegally. Elena's entire family believes in Arizona's immigration law. They say they are proud to show their citizenship papers and valid driver's licenses, whenever, wherever. Those who have nothing to hide, hide nothing. And yes, they all live in Arizona.
hancock | Jul 16, 2010, 10:25 AM EDT
A more tolerant society? I don't think so . Holding camps until they check out? That doesn't sound so warm and fuzzy. Typical lefty hypocrite. We should do that here . What do you say?
Monsoonman | Jul 16, 2010, 10:12 AM EDT
Just so we can get a monument point for clarification Dennis and find some common ground perhaps. You say the American public is easily duped and swindled. Do you think some of the main perpetrators have been Senator Chris Dodd and Congressman Barney Frank?...Just trying to find where your indignation stops and mine starts.
DennisQ | Jul 16, 2010, 06:36 AM EDT
Thank you for your kind remark, Sean. I've been wondering why the Republicans are so confident of victory in November that they've lifted their oars out of the water already. They're not participating in governing the country anymore - everything coming out of Washington is the result of Democratic initiatives. So I wondered how Republicans predict great electoral success without any accomplishments. It turns out that there's a new theory being kicked around among pollsters - the midterm elections are already decided by the incumbent president's approval rating five months out. But Republicans are like investors who buy a stock based on its historical price performance. They are betting the rent money on their belief in a system that can't lose - all they've got to do is fiddle with the numbers. If they drive down Obama's approval with smear and fear attacks, there's no way they can lose. However, Wall Streeters know that so-called "technical analysis" is a sucker's bet if insiders can manipulate the figures to falsely suggest a buying opportunity.
seanomelbourne | Jul 16, 2010, 04:14 AM EDT
I don't have to post here Denis says it all so succinctly.
DennisQ | Jul 16, 2010, 02:56 AM EDT
America is losing its grip. We haven't won a war since 1945, there's massive unemployment, and we're in debt up to our ears. A frightened people are easily swindled, as was noted over a century ago by historian Jacob Burckhardt. Burckhardt predicted that 20th century would be dominated by violent demagogues, whom he called "terrible simplifiers." What I've called cartoon journalism is an oversimplification of political reality. Fox News is popular because it's entertaining, but also because it makes ignorant people feel like they understand what's going on. Hitler scapegoated the Jews; Gov. Brewer scapegoats foreign workers who come to Arizona.
seanomelbourne | Jul 15, 2010, 07:27 PM EDT
Right on DennisQ! but one only has to look at the audience they're trying to convince. Smear and fear works well on their party faithful.
DennisQ | Jul 15, 2010, 09:29 AM EDT
Governor Brewer's world is like the Saturday morning cartoons - its characters are so broadly defined that even a 5-year old can tell the good guys from the bad guys. Republican political narratives are cartoon-like in their view of human motives. Immigrants don't come here to find work; they come here to loaf around, sell drugs, corrupt our young people and destroy our way of life.
seanomelbourne | Jul 15, 2010, 04:48 AM EDT
We are an island(which helps)but we do intercept boat loads of refugees,they are sent to holding camps. Over 90% of them will eventually be released into the community after their bona fides are checked.Our biggest problem is people flying in and overstaying their visas.After all we do have the best economy in the world and have superior working conditions to the U.S. WE have a more tolerant society than yours or so it would seem going by your antics.
hancock | Jul 14, 2010, 11:13 PM EDT
How is the immigration policy in Austalia? or in Mexico? Maybe we should adopt similar plans. Then you will here some howling from the left.
seanomelbourne | Jul 14, 2010, 08:38 PM EDT
I have posted about 6 or 7 down the line,I did mention you in dispatches.
hancock | Jul 14, 2010, 03:09 PM EDT
Sean any question for me?
Kilrush1 | Jul 14, 2010, 12:28 PM EDT
Good to read factual reporting; we don't often see it in the US. Too much vested interests and axes to grind!
JimThompson | Jul 14, 2010, 10:17 AM EDT
Don't know what world Milbanks lives on but it is not this Earth. till can't understand why ILLEGAL is now considerede as alright.
IrishAndProud | Jul 14, 2010, 05:25 AM EDT
Incorrect though that statement is, Dennis ('cartoonish notions of good and evil'), at least those on the right even HAVE a notion of good and evil. When a person is so deliberately nuanced that they can't tell gray from black from white (like a typical LEFT winger), they've truly lost it. The only thing that becoming more and more cartoonish, Dennis, are your posts. You've almost become a parody of yourself, if you'll pardon me.
DennisQ | Jul 14, 2010, 01:09 AM EDT
It's not surprising that the majority of Americans like the idea of having a permanent underclass - so long as it's not them. If you call people up on the phone and ask them if they favor control over our borders, an overwhelming number say they do. Americans want to keep foreigners from organizing into labor unions the way former IRA man Mike Quill organized the transport workers back in the 30's. Right wing thinking - which is top-heavy with cartoonish notions of good and evil - impedes our ability to analyze policy and correct mistakes.
Strongbow | Jul 13, 2010, 09:10 PM EDT
The citizens of the US demand security whether in their neighborhood or their borders and if you are a border state the border is your neighborhood. Secure borders are essential for any country. It is neither a right-wing nor a racist aspiration.
seanomelbourne | Jul 13, 2010, 07:22 PM EDT
If you have something to say about Australia go for it. I have visited your country many times have relatives there. My father lived there during the depression ,my mother died in Terrytown( N.Y.) hospital and my great grandfather fought for the union and other relatives died fighting fires(FDNY).I do not "badmouth" the U.S.A. I obviously prick the conscience of people like you and Hancock.Maybe Hancock should keep his hands off it.
IrishAndProud | Jul 13, 2010, 07:19 PM EDT
And this, from the Washington Post (another bastion of the vast, right-wing conspiracy, right?): "Another disenchanted constituency is Hispanics. Latino support for Obama has dropped 12 points since the start of the year, as anger has grown over the Democrats' failure to make immigration reform a priority. Instead of putting forward legislation, Obama delivered a speech this month in which he laid the blame for his failure to act on Republican "demagoguery." Then last Tuesday, the administration filed a lawsuit in federal court to block Arizona's immigration law. This was unnecessary, according to Kris Kobach, the former Justice Department official who helped draft the Arizona law, because the law was already being challenged by the ACLU and other groups: The issue was already tied up in the courts. The Justice Department doesn't add anything by bringing its own lawsuit. These actions were designed to bolster Hispanic support, but they doomed any hope of bipartisan cooperation on immigration. Democrats appear more interested in posturing to win Hispanic votes than getting something accomplished for Hispanic voters. But the strategy may backfire if Latinos see through the charade, and the Arizona lawsuit ends up bringing down Democrats facing tough reelection battles in the West." HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAAAAA! As the song could go: Down, down, down, down-down barack....
IrishAndProud | Jul 13, 2010, 04:58 PM EDT
Well, Dennis...I guess most of the USA is 'old people' because the Arizona law consistenly enjoys support in the 70% range, not just in AZ but all across the USA. Illegal aliens (not immigrants) have no business in the USA or in any other nation, either...including Australia (which has far tougher immigration laws than the USA). How about I sit here and bad-mouth Australia from afar, a country I'M not even from? I'm sure Sean would appreciate it.
TWARNER699 | Jul 13, 2010, 12:39 PM EDT
TKYPICAL LEFTIST SPIN. FACT IS THERE IS A GROWING BORDER AREA THAT YOU DO NOT GO INTO UNLESS YOU WANT TO TAKE YOUR CHANCES. THE BILL IS NOT ANTI-IMMIGRANT IT IS ANTI ILLEGAL. BIG DIFFERENCE! FOR PEOPLE WHO CANNOT READ THE ARIZONA BILL IS ONLY GIVING LOCAL AUTHORITIES THE ABILITY TO DO THE GOVERNMENTS JOB SINCE THE WILL NOT DO IT.
hancock | Jul 13, 2010, 06:26 AM EDT
Why am I a racist? Is That your ready made answer when hit in the nose with something you cant argue with? The way you go on you would think the Rio Grande was In Derry and the Gaza strip was in Belfast.
DennisQ | Jul 13, 2010, 05:32 AM EDT
Governor Brewer is pandering to Arizona's old people who grew up in a time when punishment was the cure-all for whatever ailed society. She knows that states can't embellish Federal law. It's political grandstanding at the expense of people who come here to sell their labor at a higher price than they can get at home. Incidentally, the use of punishment as a universal solution to social problems is making a comeback. In Tennessee, for instance, school districts would like to bring back beatings as a way to teach children discipline. I can just hear their arguments - If it works in Singapore, it'll work in Memphis.
seanomelbourne | Jul 13, 2010, 02:22 AM EDT
We are worried about all the oppressed, you little racist Hancock. You people cannot climb out of your dark feeble minds. Articles expressing all points of view are acceptable. Are you "irishknight" so arrogant that only your point of view is correct.
hancock | Jul 12, 2010, 11:48 PM EDT
If you Irish worried as much about your own border and your own oppressed countrymen up north, instead of arabs, jews, and mexicans you would be a lot better off.
Starlet | Jul 12, 2010, 09:43 PM EDT
Clearly an exaggeration. Just ask yourself how popular Ms Brewer was before she "recruited" the Mexicans to help her Republican Campaign! LOL
oldbear | Jul 12, 2010, 09:31 PM EDT
Ariszona border is porous. No thanks to our floundering Fed Govt. Illegals ok, criminals like murders et al NO. Barrack needs to send MORE troops to assist as in any country.
cayla99 | Jul 12, 2010, 09:02 PM EDT
I have been to there, I think she is downplaying the violence. If things are so good there, why are national parks off limits to citizens because of the violence? This article is nothing but propaganda written by someone who is clueless or on happy drugs or has an agenda or a combination of the above.
IRISHKNIGHT110 | Jul 12, 2010, 08:15 PM EDT
why is this article being printed. I don't think you would know unless you lived there. I have been there I have seen personally what is going on. it's much worse than you think.
seanomelbourne | Jul 12, 2010, 08:11 PM EDT
Scare mongering and lies by brewer it must be an election year. I love how Limpaugh and his Fox friend twist the truth and come out smelling like roses to the GOP faithful. You can certainly fool some of the people all of the time.
Ajreaper | Jul 12, 2010, 07:30 PM EDT
In honesty Brewer has not helped our situation in AZ because she made seemingly off the wall comments that are in no way backed up by any 3rd party stats. I know I have heard her say some things and just stopped and thought sounds like your making crap up Gov. I grew up in southern AZ and still have family there and I know this those that live in rural areas frequently see these people moving through, they stop and ask for water and in some cases they are armed (my brother while out hunting saw a group of men in the distance very clearly armed with AK47 and carrying large backpacks). Ther are also large areas covered in discarded trash- water bottles, clothing etc. Our borders are far from "secure".
willieboy | Jul 12, 2010, 07:27 PM EDT
Milbank is a typical washington obama shill....
aznative | Jul 12, 2010, 07:22 PM EDT
As someone who grew up in Nogales, still lives and works here, and has kids growing up here the governor and the senator are wrong. My kids go to school and out in town (yes, even in the evening) and I don't feel that they are threatended. I don't know where both the politicans receive their information and am certainly befuddled in their position. These stories about the violence makes it appear as if bandidos are riding up and down the street, with their bandoleros and people running for cover - totally inane!
mandokeith | Jul 12, 2010, 06:56 PM EDT
Go talk to the people who are having their homes overrun by these illegals. Dama Miulbank is sitting in Washington, get off his arse and go to Arizona to see. Good journalism????????? Niall you wouldn't know good if it bit you, what a goofy stance........
seanomelbourne | Jul 12, 2010, 06:54 PM EDT
The racist scaremongers on the right have been caught out yet again. Limbaugh and his Fox cohorts with their cheap talking points ,they are a bunch of unmitigated liars feeding on hate and loathing.
wjb1tex | Jul 12, 2010, 05:47 PM EDT
Denver Post Poll: 62% of Hispanics Support an Arizona-Style Law in Colorado
McNabb1966 | Jul 12, 2010, 05:14 PM EDT
If it's in the Washington Post then it might as well be printed on White House stationary. WaPo and Newsweak comprise a significant department in the current administration's Ministry of Propaganda. Where did Milbank get his facts? Media Matters or Talking Points Memo?
cathy/marty | Jul 12, 2010, 04:58 PM EDT
Liberal is liberal but the B.S you print sucks. I cannot believe it. I think i will drop reading this garbage. You expect all true IRISH to read your liberal crap. Kiss Milbank ass.
MaryM232 | Jul 12, 2010, 04:42 PM EDT
Those of you reading here must know a 4 year old child? Tell me, those of you in the US, did Dana Milbank, or the Washington Post, or the NY Times or any of the big news outlets, broadcast or cable report on the brutal rape of a 4 yr old little girl named Heidi, in Springfield Massachusetts a bit over a week ago? No, they didn't. Heidi's in the hospital in serious condition, she was raped by 2 illegal alien men, (Lawless State Enabled Child's Rape bostonherald.com/news/opinion/op_ed/view.bg?articleid=1266725 ) and that's why this horrendous crime isn't being reported, any more than the brutal slayings and rapes of those 3 black college students in Newark, NJ two years back, by a gun and machete wielding gang of illegal aliens were reported. One young woman survived, and was able to be a witness in court, the first of the criminal illegals was just sentenced to 3 consecutive live sentences, yet the mainstream media has treated the story as though it never happened.
MaryM232 | Jul 12, 2010, 04:42 PM EDT
"Revealed as nonsense".. Dana Milbank did nothing of the kind, he impugned the claims were nonsense, but he proved nothing of the sort. Milbank claims to have spoken with someone in the AZ media, who claimed to have spoken with law enforcement or a coroner? Why didn't old Hopalong Milbank pick up a phone and speak to law enforcement at the border himself.. could it be because that would have obliged him to report the truth.. and it's so much easier to lie when you cite a nameless source who was spoken to by another nameless source. If you aren't easily sickened by graphic photos of such violence, paste this into your browser thewesterner.blogspot.com/2010/07/are-heads-missing-in-arizona.html
MaryM232 | Jul 12, 2010, 04:41 PM EDT
A rancher in Santa Cruz county has reported finding a head on his land, and as has witnessed the drug cartels moving drugs across his lands, felt sure it was part of a cartel related crime, he reported this back in 2008, and there have been countless reports of illegal alien gangs in Arizona, California, Texas, New Mexico, Illinois, Ohio, Iowa, Florida and Kentucky, where decapitated bodies of illegal aliens from Mexico an other Latin American countries have been found, in fields, in cars, trucks, in apartments, and this has been reported for years now. Dana Milbank won't report that, any more than he will report on any other of the millions of serious crimes committed by illegal aliens, the many thousands of murders committed by them each year. Perhaps Milbank should make a visit to the border and spend the night alone out there to see how safe it is, he could even invite O'Dowd and his bad toupee along for the ride,
jimandsusan | Jul 12, 2010, 03:24 PM EDT
This is an example of why I do not trust Republicans.
Hakodarko | Jul 12, 2010, 03:22 PM EDT
It is amazing how many people, who don't live in Arizona, present themselves as be experts on the situation around the border region. Nonsense is repeated, but mainly by Milbank and others like him. If things are no worse these days, why are we seeing signs and postings warning travelers of dangers from armed criminals? Why are citizens being asked not to travel through portions of the border regions, because they are occupied by armed criminals. And yes, its true, crime in major cities IS down from ten years ago....20%. But crime is UP in towns and rural counties (by 39% and 45% respectively) between 2000 and 20008. This last according to the FBI. There is a very real problem in the border regions of Arizona, and the residents there are very much aware of it. It would likely annoy them to hear voices, some from very far away, claiming their problems are nonexistent.
peterson | Jul 12, 2010, 03:14 PM EDT
These ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS are coming here to cash in on our public assistance programs (free medical, food, rent, (etc. etc.) They are bogging down our educational system and insist that they have the same rights as those who became legal citizens such as my Danish and Irish ancestors.
peterson | Jul 12, 2010, 03:05 PM EDT
The "feds" have posted much of the desert south of Phoenix, "NOT SAFE FOR TRAVEL THROUGH THIS AREA". I live in Arizona and have seen the results of the Mexican Drug Cartels and illegal immigrants. Milbank is a pawn of the "controlled media". If you have friends or relatives in Arizona, call or e-mail them. Seventy percent of Americans agree that our border is dangerous and needs to be totally controlled. Watch Fox World News for the real story.
AmAncINED | Jul 12, 2010, 02:46 PM EDT
Well, itsgpgo, we're a little short of decent paying jobs here at the moment. Why don't all of the European countries open their borders and let everyone in who wants to leave their native country and grant them full citizenship, no questions asked??? Once again, it's ILLEGAL immigration we're talking about. Why should anyone else have to EARN citizenship in the USA if the Mexicans are going to get a free pass because they can sneak in over the border? By the way, it was our European immigrant ancestors who came here and stole the land from the Native Americans. Many Native Americans are still living in the U.S. on their own land - thousands of acres called reservations where many run lucrative gambling casinos. They don't want anyone, especially illegals, living on their land.
allentown | Jul 12, 2010, 02:23 PM EDT
1100 illegal aliens in the Maracopa County jail charged with a violent felony.
2BorNot2B | Jul 12, 2010, 02:03 PM EDT
Nicomax, you might just add that the reason why those Pakis, Irish and Indians are not picking fruit, cleaning bathrooms and scrubbing chickens is because they had a government that gave them a chance at education and didn't keep them ignorant and poor while the politicians lined their pockets.
ochshane | Jul 12, 2010, 01:55 PM EDT
cvmichael,you are referring to the Immigration & Nationality Act, Oct 3rd.1965 (a date that will live in infamy). Really Niall,the Wapo! a credible source! Go Governer Jan!
slainte9 | Jul 12, 2010, 01:46 PM EDT
Homicide levels in Phoenix and Tucson are as high Northern Ireland's during the ten worst years of the Irish Troubles. That's a fact. Furthermore, the FBI statistics don't include the bodies out in the vast Arizona no one has found. Overall violent crime in Arizona is probably much worse than Northern Ireland's ever was. Today Phoenix is a much more dangerous place than today's Northern Ireland. About 6,000 of the 41,000 in Arizona prisons are illegal immigrants, according to Pulitzer Prize finalist Laurie Roberts. Whether or not Gov. Brewer has her facts straight, illegal immigration is a big part of Arizona's Troubles. If you lived in Arizona, you'd know that the Republicans and their brain child SB 1070 are a joke. The only thing their law does is stir the pot and Democrats have fallen for it hook, line and sinker. Democrat ideologues, like Mr. O'Dowd, who maliciously downplay our problems, are just as big a joke. (Proving that the brilliant Irish monks who saved Western civilization and brought light to Europe's Dark Ages did, in fact, practice celibacy). In the meanwhile, the Troubles here continue and the possibility that there's an improvement from being 20 times more dangerous than Ireland to only being 15 times more dangerous isn't comforting.
Nicomax | Jul 12, 2010, 01:01 PM EDT
While we are at it maybe we should close the Canadian border to prevent Irish, Indians. Pakistanis, etc. from sneaking over and scooping up really good paying jobs not back-breaking one picking fruit, cutting up chickens or scrubbing bath rooms.
docmikey | Jul 12, 2010, 12:56 PM EDT
Typical Republican policy of making things up. Too bad about McCail - I used to have respect for his integrity.
STEPcoach | Jul 12, 2010, 12:26 PM EDT
Well, Milbank is a very poor quality journalist. She is building a straw man defense of an illegal activity. She is trying to show why illegal immigration is not so bad. Did you get that? ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. It's illegal. Unlawful. Against the law. Not sure how to get the message across to you and her. Illegal = bad = wrong. >sigh< never mind. Clearly it's beyond you both. Celebrate your ignorance.
jdi2269 | Jul 12, 2010, 12:24 PM EDT
CLOSE THE DAMN BORDERS OBAMA ! QUIT PLAYING POLITICS WITH OUR SAFETY !!!
pflynn70 | Jul 12, 2010, 12:20 PM EDT
Kidnappings are on the decline? Oh isn,t that just wonderful,Arizone is still #1 in kidnappings dummy! Now how about the sourse of this comment?Washington POst, give me a break, one of the most left wing liberal newspapers in the country and you expect us to believe them? What has happened to real Journalists? They did at one time report the truth not what their warped thinking thinks is fair. And another thing, Obama tells the truth? since when!
WoundedKnee | Jul 12, 2010, 12:15 PM EDT
Any person in Arizona or indeed in the states that border Mexico would do well to be very scared. The level of violence, murder, torture, kidnapping in Mexico is now well beyond anything Colombia ever experienced. Colombia was able to pull back from the brink, and is now mostly stable and safe, but Mexico is going down the tubes. O'Dowd is writing this trash from the safety of his Manhattan apartment--don't take him seriously. And by the way, in Ireland, according to the newspaper the Irish Independent, fully one-third of the prison population are foreigners.
WoundedKnee | Jul 12, 2010, 12:12 PM EDT
itspgo: How do you know your family came in illegally? Are you telling us you have family records dating back to the 1840s? I don't believe you for one second.
cvmichael | Jul 12, 2010, 12:00 PM EDT
Dana Milbank is not exactly a disinterested reporter, so take his reports with a grain or two of salt. The Arizona law is the same law many states have passed (and withstood court challenges) - My Father and Mother came to this country from County Offaly, through Ellis Island (that's called "legal" immigration. Ted Kennedy essentially shut down Irish immigration when he pushed a law through establishing (ind increasing) quotas for non-European immigrants - and decreased European limits. The bottom line is that there are legal immigration procedures - so why should anyone support illegal immigration?
cvmichael | Jul 12, 2010, 11:56 AM EDT
The point is that they are ILLEGAL immigrants. Crime or not they shouldn't be here unless they follow the immigration process..
itsgpgo | Jul 12, 2010, 11:26 AM EDT
My family came in through Canada, to the USA, they came here because of the Potato Famine they came to the USA illegally too, as many as others did...etc...so you would have to throw out all those Irish Catholics out first...Gov. Jan Brewer is going out of her mind or is denial, the USA stole this land from the Native Americans and the Mexicans...and now they claim its a border problem...let everyone come here free and work...I am liberal and democrat...George Dolan
phoenixnurse | Jul 12, 2010, 10:38 AM EDT
Your all Wrong! Provide the NAMES of the Medical Examiners! For those who say Arizona's borders are secure..You live in LaLa Land...You either are immigrants yourself and come from a socialist country, have liberal views and read colums like this that are filled daily with trash news about movie star gossip and have no conception of what goes on along the Arizona Border. The Arizona Republic endorses Amnesty and Open Borders, so there you have it... we in Arizona live with the victims of these violent crimes, we earned the Kidnapping name from the Media and we see it frequently...live and in person, the heroic rescues of these exploited, poor illegals who sincerely believe they will have a better life leaving Mexico. Milbank is drinking more than "Kool Aid", he's drinkig breast milk! Arizona has no time for trash colums like this, shame on Naill for even publishing it.... worry about Ireland, NY and their Mosque building, leave Arizona to the Patriots!
jflanagan | Jul 12, 2010, 10:34 AM EDT
Yes, Monsoonman, I saw the same report that upwards of 100,000 illegals have left Arizona. If it because of the law, all states should pass the same law. That way the 15 million American citizens and legal immigrants that are unemployed may have a chance to get one of the 8 million jobs that illegals currently fill. Don't get me wrong, I am all for easier legal immigration and welcome legal immigrants with open arms. That does not mean I will tolerate those who would break into our house uninvited and threaten our citizens.
jflanagan | Jul 12, 2010, 10:28 AM EDT
Yet, with all this safety, Niall still lives in the NY area and is afraid to move down to the Arizona border. There are brutal crimes being committed against American citizens. Illegals are down because with the recession and the government only creating government jobs not open to illegals there are fewer jobs for them. So, yes, you will see a decrease, but not elimination of violent crimes committed by illegal aliens. The comment about bringing drugs concerns the fact that in order to pay the human traffickers and have some money to tide them over, the illegals carry in drugs. Shortly after they get in, they pass the drugs on to contacts and when they are caught by authorities, they don't have the drugs on them any more. Also, if they are reported for deportation, often the cases are not prosecuted so they can be deported quicker. Niall, when you and your family move down to Nogales, Arizona and live on a border farm for three months and maybe you'll have some credence. For now you are just the type of socialist Irishman who kept the old sod from progressing for 70 years and should be banished.
Yerffac | Jul 12, 2010, 10:14 AM EDT
chesapeeake--What a ridiculous argument. One doesn't have to live in Arizona to have an opinion about this sickening racist law. Did your people by any chance come from the old sod? Your attitude is typical of many people whose ancestors came here. I'm on the top of the ladder and I'll kick anyone who is below me off the ladder. Draining the economy, huh? Taking bread out of your mouth? Taking jobs away from Americans? Want a job in a slaughter-house or doing yardwork? Somebody is hiring these people. I wonder who?
MotherIrish | Jul 12, 2010, 10:09 AM EDT
No one is against LEGAL immigration, only ILLEGAL immigration. If being against illegal aliens - in truth what they are - makes me anti-immigration, then so be it. Legals come on in, the water and climate are fine. Illegals, go home, get your government to pay you and find you a job. I just hate bleeding heart liberals who claim they are journalist.
Monsoonman | Jul 12, 2010, 10:07 AM EDT
I noticed recently the local Hispanic population here in California has swelled tremendously since AZ began its crackdown. Seems that AZ has started a self deportation process of its illegal population. At least two of Calis major cities have declared themselves "sanctuary cities" and ignore federal law. What do you think the chances are that attorney general eric holder will swiftly bring a lawsuit against them for overriding federal law? Just like he did against Arizona for the same reasons?...So clearly we have selective enforcement of existing laws by the federal government, just like they selectively enforce civil rights enforcement, say a word a gainst a person of color, they throw the book at you. Kill, harrass, discriminate, voter intimidate against white people....nothing.
bronxjames | Jul 12, 2010, 10:05 AM EDT
This 'person' who wrote this knows not of what she speaks. My best friend has lived in Az. all her life. She see's all sorts of crimes being committed. Assault, sexual crimes. I agree with the Governor but I would take it one step further, put a bounty on their head. $500.00 each illegal bought in. Let the police figure it out.
chesapeake | Jul 12, 2010, 09:34 AM EDT
Milbank doesn't live in Arizona and works for a libera.l newspaper. The other opinions offered seem to have been by those who have come out against the program. The sheer numbers of illegal immigrants draining the economy is enough incentive to pass the law. Illegal means unlawful and that means criminal. Get over it.
torbreezy | Jul 12, 2010, 09:13 AM EDT
Are you familiar with the "he-said-she-said" scenario?
hollabackgurl | Jul 12, 2010, 08:15 AM EDT
Yes, but why let the truth get into the way of a promising (and racist) election strategy? The GOP would tell you Martians are invading if they thought there was votes in it.
outdrxplrer | Jul 12, 2010, 07:44 AM EDT
I think that anyone who is not of American Indian descent is an illegal immigrant. I find it truly amazing that white people who have invaded this land, and continue to invade lands around the globe, and remove indigenous people from the land because the whites want the resources, are the biggest hypocrites of them all. White men have brought massive death and destruction to this continent, to Latin America, to Africa and many other nations. However, when someone else threatened to take over the world (Hitler), conveniently, the 4th Geneva Convention appears as international law, stating that no land will be taken from civilians in times of war. Is this law applied at all to indigenous people no matter where they are located? NO! The taking of lands from indigenous people continues to occur, and I will reiterate, the taking of lands is an ILLEGAL action. Just a bit of history here: a large part of the United States was Mexico. Why didn't anyone inform the Mexican people that their land was purchased right out from under them in land deals made by Napoleon and the Spanish? Why didn't anyone inform them that BORDERS were now being established? For those of you who claim that there are illegal immigrants in this nation, have any one of you stopped to question if whether or not the immigration laws were in direct violation of constitutional law, and, therefore, wouldn't it be the immigrant laws that are illegal and not the immigrants? For those of you who are actually unaware that the constitution is the law that governs the land, please read the constitution and become well acquainted with the most important document of this land.
DennisQ | Jul 12, 2010, 07:20 AM EDT
Foreign workers who come here to find work actually do find work. If they didn't find work, they wouldn't come here. These foreign workers resemble the American ideal of taking responsibility for their own lives and making the best of their situation. Right wingers make up stories about them because it's an embarrassment that we can't get out own people to do that. Whether it's true or not, Gov. Brewer promotes a false picture of who these people are and why they come here. Most so-called "illegal immigrants" have more old-fashioned gumption than many Americans.
irishwxman | Jul 12, 2010, 01:32 AM EDT
When will you get it through your thick skull that the first word in illegal immigrant is "ILLEGAL"!? There is nothing wrong with this law. O-Bama and his band of cronies will lose this law suit and they will look even more foolish than he already does.
USMIAZ1 | Jul 11, 2010, 10:11 PM EDT
Yeah like a comment will appear if it does not fit your agenda!..You're a joke and part of the problem in this country!!
USMIAZ1 | Jul 11, 2010, 10:10 PM EDT
Are you kidding me?..Dana is as ignorant as you are! I work the desert of Arizona and see firsthand what goes on here...Have you?..Ever bother to get off your ass and come down to the border?..I doubt it,because if you had you would not be spreading your leftwing extremist BS on the internet as Dana did..You or her know absolutely nothing of what goes on here in the desert of Arizona!!..Drug smuggling is running rampant here.I see it everyday!!..Get a clue!!