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• Collette2 | Mar 23, 2011, 02:49 AM EDT

  With the release of QC Geoffery Robinsons book on Vatican accountability for Human Rights abuse, there are plenty of references for those interested in drawing any conclusions, covering the majority of comments.

• johnymac60 | Mar 22, 2011, 02:03 PM EDT

  Satirical commentary is all very well, and it's not really necessary to go into endless comparisons of muslim extremists versus Catholic Priest criminality. It's done elsewhere to the n'th degree. But patrick, this piece is not well written at all. For example: "surely points to something very rotten indeed in the nature of Catholicism"??? How do you draw that conclusion? You certainly have not done enough to make that point salient, my friend. Indeed it's extreme enough in itself to warrant a reader to step-back and ponder your personal prejudice towards the Catholic religion, and therefore your ability to write worthy satire at all. There is of course, absolutely no similarity between the crimes you compare here. Any considerate person can quickly see that. I have to admit, I do find myself having to agree that this particular piece seems to be more of a "Look at me, how smart I am?" rather than thoughtful writing. Try to do better next time.

• kaydog1 | Mar 21, 2011, 01:03 PM EDT

  Well, Mr Roberts, I guess there's just NOTHING an Irish Lefty won't say to stop folks talking about the sins of his 'friends'. So the Muslims have a disturbing frequency of murdering their own children in so-called 'honour killings', murdering other's children such as at Itamar (bravely stabbing a 3 month old, a 4 year old, and an eleven year old to death), TRYING to maim and murder hundreds of children by setting off a bomb outside the Times Square production of the Lion King when it let out (the Times Square Bomber), not to mention the thousands of dead in 9/11, and at other Islamic terrorist acts of destruction? Well then let 'Lefty' Roberts even the tally sheet by pointing out that OTHER people do bad things too, and so we should stop looking at his murderous friends and look at where the Lefty wants you to look. Are you deranged? Doe this somehow count as an argument in your fevered little brain? Does this make it all "even?" Well it won't work-we're still going to focus on our most pressing problems, of which people like YOU appear to be a part.

• maloney | Mar 17, 2011, 11:14 PM EDT

  Yea right, muslims, hitler, Attila the Hun, Jack the Ripper ect ect.

• marciaashley | Mar 17, 2011, 10:58 AM EDT

  you sound like the protestants and catholics. you know god knows what you do and so does youself. you are the one who has to live with yourself if you are participating in a wrong doing the old saying is YOU HAVE TO PAY THE PIPER. you will get caught up with sooner or later.

• John G. Hogan | Mar 14, 2011, 08:01 AM EDT

  Better yet, investigate the # 1 MOTUS

• hancock | Mar 13, 2011, 11:15 PM EDT

  Great congressman.

• mayoman | Mar 13, 2011, 08:32 PM EDT

  Good satire, Patrick. I'll be sure to send a copy to Senator McCarthy's, er, Congressman King's office. One must wonder why it is that If King is so concerned about possible Muslim plots why has he ignored law enforcement pleas that he not establish this grandstanding, counter-productive Inquisition? King is far more concerned about Pete King being viewed as some sort of Savior than he is in truly addressing this nation's security issues. His divisiveness will only create more problems and resolve nothing.

• duke410 | Mar 13, 2011, 08:06 PM EDT

  Yeah I get the satire but its intent on making the point that he disagrees with Peter King's investigation and the fact is that this investigation is long overdue. The investigation is trying to ferret out who is an enemy to the U.S. Since the Islamic churches and organizations will not openly condemn the violent terroristic acts then there's something wrong with their leadership. Some Islamic organisations in the US are funding these people.

• duke410 | Mar 13, 2011, 08:02 PM EDT

  We shouldn't have the Muslim Congressman investihgate the Catholics because the Catholics haven't attacked the USA over 300 times in the last 15 years in the name of their God. There aren't Catholics creating cells in the USA with the intent on uprising against the USA. Catholic Churches aren't sending money to terrorists to fund their violent acts against the USA. Well there's more but why continue. If you haven't understood this or the fact that you asked this question in the first place means you don't understand that the Radical Islamists are bent on destroying western culture. And that the majority of Muslims in the U.S. refuse to condemn their acts.

• eiriamach | Mar 13, 2011, 07:41 PM EDT

  Didn't that make sense, Seano? the English got enough profit out of Ireland without the Irish buying their coal too. I'd guess that like the Old Catholics, getting in trouble with the colonial authorities was what made Irish men and women out of many Anglo-Irish. Lady Gregory, the Wildes, my own Anglo-Norman ancestors, . . .

• seanomelbourne | Mar 13, 2011, 06:14 PM EDT

  Swift's satire landed him in trouble with the colonial authorities when he wrote "burn everything English except their coal"

• jerryoneill | Mar 13, 2011, 04:04 PM EDT

  Wow. What a wonderful idea. a jihad against abuser priests. They would be beheaded(How appropriate)Then they would go to heaven and be given 72 altar boys.Problem solved for everyone.

• jerryoneill | Mar 13, 2011, 03:57 PM EDT

  My dearest sirpeter. You are absolutely correct it wasn't 12,000 cases of Catholic priest abuse it was only about 11,500. I am kinda thinking that one would be one too many. And the millions and millions spent on the broken people as a result of this FATHERlY exercise is probably also overstated.What we really need is for the bishops and cardinals and even our wonderful pope to provide a better cover up of these lovely emotional vampires. I wonder whatever happened to that little story when Christ mentioned something about millstones and abusing His children. He probably meant if the number exceded 12,000.

• jerryoneill | Mar 13, 2011, 03:45 PM EDT

  wow. what a great idea. a jihad against pedofile priests and when the offending priests are beheaded(How appropriate)they will be able to go to heaven and get 72 altar boys.

• kelauggie1 | Mar 13, 2011, 03:34 PM EDT

  Patrick Roberts, could you possible be a bigger idiot???

• eiriamach | Mar 13, 2011, 08:05 AM EDT

  Read Jonathan Swift's "A Modest Proposal" (available on the Internet). If you end up with the impression that the author really hates Irish Catholics and is making a "stupid" suggestion, then you didn't "get" the satire and you need to read it again. Satire is a literary device of ridicule that an author uses to enable the reader to "see through" a really bad policy and rethink his or her attitude toward it. Roberts is writing in a great Irish literary tradition.

• eiriamach | Mar 13, 2011, 07:43 AM EDT

  It's a satire, people! Roberts is ridiculing Rep. King's Muslim witch hunt. He's not seriously suggesting that Congress should subject the Catholic Church to the same treatment that King is giving Muslims. There is dangerous "corruption" in both Roman Catholicism and Islam-- cover-ups of thousands of cases of criminal child abuse in the one and a destruction-driven hatred for godless capitalism in the other. We must act consistently. Therefore, however we deal with one, we must deal likewise with the other. Roberts wants you to see that we should not be on any witch hunt! If you do not get the point of the article, you need to ask yourself WHY you do not get it. Why are Rep. King's hearings not transparent to you as demonizing? Why can you not see that the two religions have just enough in common to merit the same treatment? They are not alike in every way; if you push on an analogy, it breaks down quickly. Catholics don't stone adulterers-- but neither do 99.9% of American Muslims. Democratic structures are not natural to Muslims--nor to Catholics! Muslims can become terrorists, and Catholics have allowed priests to terrorize children for decades and moved the terrorist pedophiles from one opportunity for crime to others. If we investigate the one religion for extreme elements, we should investigate the other. Conclusion: we shouldn't investigate the one!

• casualMBA | Mar 12, 2011, 01:11 PM EST

  Patrick enjoys Led Zeppelin...Some readers see their music in strong leadership, maintained, elevated, and/or sustained, in a preamble writing world...The Homeland Security Committee's work, and its hearings, grant each American the opportunity to scan the shoreline for the harbor, each of us needs, and defends, for America...Patrick's pen may need to play a different "Stairway to Heaven"...

• maloney | Mar 12, 2011, 02:05 AM EST

  Seano...I just love it when the truth makes you talk jibberish.

• casualMBA | Mar 12, 2011, 01:28 AM EST

  (multipier effect)

• casualMBA | Mar 12, 2011, 01:26 AM EST

  X 1 = National Risk & Personal Jeopardy Y 1 = Nonsense

• seanomelbourne | Mar 12, 2011, 01:07 AM EST

  A collection please for some tissues for Jacer and Maloney.

• jacersagain | Mar 11, 2011, 07:49 PM EST

  Yes, I agree with those who say that Patrick's off his rocker with this suggestion. For starters, why should anyone who believes in a false religion be invited to investigate scandals in a religion he doesn't believe in and which his religion says all believers of that religion should be stoned to death or beheaded??

• seanomelbourne | Mar 11, 2011, 05:47 PM EST

  My!my! Patrick there seems to be quite a few sniveling Christians upset by your blog.

• jamieLM | Mar 11, 2011, 05:06 PM EST

  Your column is total nonsense. There is no comparison between Islamic terrorists who murder hundreds/thousands of people and clergy in the Christian community who commit child sexual abuse. Muslims have no right to criticize Christians when they treat their women like 2nd class citizens, or worse. In Arab countries they deny them an education and basic human rights. Men are allowed to murder, even by stoning, their wives and sisters as they see fit. There have been cases of Muslim women being injured and killed in the U.S. by their male family members because they violated some tenet of the Muslim faith. So don't even go there with your completely hypothetical, illogical idea of Muslims sitting in judgment of Christians on the basis of religion.

• ktrush512 | Mar 11, 2011, 09:36 AM EST

  Given that Islam was founded by a pedophile (Muhammad "married" a seven year old girl, Aisha, and consummated the "marriage" when she was nine), a Muslim might make the perfect Inquisitor. Better yet, let's elevate Islam to the national religion and impose sharia. Perhaps Mr. Roberts would prefer "legal" and state sanctioned female genital mutilation, child marriages, and honor killings to the "rotten nature" of Catholicism. Of course, a reasonable person would admit the fact that no matter how heinous the acts of clerical criminals, none of their actions are condoned by Church doctrine. That, Mr. Roberts, is the difference between Christianity and Islam.

• sirpeter | Mar 11, 2011, 05:53 AM EST

  12,000 cases of clerical sex abuse in the United States.Fu*k this sh*t for a game of soldiers.What does that figure mean Patrick Roberts.12,000 cases and not one use of the word Protestant.So the thickos on IC automatically think it's 12,000 cases of Catholic priest abuse.Seven times you use the word Catholic in this article, along with 12,000 cases of clerical sex abuse in the United States.I smell a rat here.That amount IS TOO HIGH FOR IT TO BE CATHOLIC PRIESTS ALONE.Specifically, there is no reason to assume the rate of child sexual abuse to be greater among Catholic clergy than among Protestant clergy. For instance, in California alone during 2001, there were six convictions involving Protestant ministers and sex-related crimes with minors. There are approximately 46,000 Catholic priests in the United States and 300 cases filed to date, which is under 0.7% of the priesthood. There are approximately 324,000 Protestant churches in the United States. If the math is correct, the number of cases among Protestant denominations could potentially dwarf the size of the Catholic scandal. According to the experts there is 1% to 2% of the population child sex abusers.12,000 cases of clerical sex abuse in the United States. Is that including Protestant clerical sex abuse too??? Which in actual fact is running a few percentage points higher then in the Catholic Church..According to the little bit of research I have done. Robert's stick your novel suggestion, and stop trying to the annoy the Catholics here on IC.

• vincem13 | Mar 11, 2011, 05:03 AM EST

  Mr. Roberts, your complete lack of a functioning moral compass and logical reasoning capacity continues to astonish me. Do I fully acknowledge the horrific damage visited upon the victims of Catholic clerical abuse? Most certainly. Was it a sickening display of man's depravity? Without a doubt. Quick question, sir: How many people did these priests and nuns murder? Not a one. Please compare that to well over 2000 on 9/11; Major Hasan's 13 dead at Fort Hood, not to mention a number of murders of daughters by "devout" Muslims; throw in how many might have died due to the Muslim shoe-bomber, the Muslim Christmas day underwear bomber and the Muslim Times Square bomber, and we have a radicaqlly different situation- one that, if only you had the intelligence, you would agree constitutes a matter of national security. On the other hand, the abuse scandal remains with the police and the courts, where sex crimes belong. Just look on the bright side, Mr. Roberts, since stupidity isn't a crime, you get to remain free!

• seanomelbourne | Mar 11, 2011, 01:10 AM EST

  McNabb I never accused the Vatican of condoning "bombing"I accused the church of been complicit in the issuing of passports(through OPUS DEI) to east European Nazi's after the second world war to aid and abet their escape to South America aiding Bin Laden by a group is no different.It is not a question of my credibility,but your inability to understand what i had written.

• jimcee830 | Mar 11, 2011, 12:30 AM EST

  It's unbelievable what a moronic a##hole Roberts is.Shame on Irish Central for publishing this nonsense

• PEGINKC | Mar 10, 2011, 11:46 PM EST

  I'm sure this article was supposed to cause a Shock and Awe response thus attracting attention for the author. Job well done...! Shame on Irish Central for publishing it. Most Americans are sick of being asked to hold hands and sing Kumbaya in response to national tragedies. It is time for hearings or whatever is necessary to happen in order for the facts to come out. I'm sure the innocent Muslim community will do anything necessary to 'out' any Muslim extremists in their midsts. Just wish they would have done it on their own a long time ago. Time for playing nice nice is over...it ended on 9/11 or have we all forgotten what happened on that date...?

• MrSinatra | Mar 10, 2011, 11:43 PM EST

  what a stupid article. the next time catholics fly jumbo jets into buildings, call me. till then, grow up.

• Ulsterman | Mar 10, 2011, 10:03 PM EST

  Peter King has supported terrorism in Northern Ireland since the 1970's--morally and materially. Innocent people--Protestants and Roman Catholics were shot and blown apart by IRA "freedom-fighters". This hypocrite has blood on his hands and now has the gall to sit in judgement. How about some of those "Second Amendment Remedies", you Americans are always boosting about. Furthermore, raping little girls and sodomizing young boys does terrorize them--forever. Terrorism is simple pervasive fear. It is not in itself an ideology

• cillowen | Mar 10, 2011, 08:29 PM EST

  on viewing peter king's hearing today - i have a new appreciation of the need for ongoing hearings. Hearing on what excites muslims to commit suicide and kill usurpers of the lands of their forebears. freely elected gazans having no credibility in our playbook.

• connor32 | Mar 10, 2011, 08:28 PM EST

  The Catholic church doesn't tell people to start a holy war! On top of that, before you jump all over the Catholics, look at all religions. Protestants, Baptists, Jewish, and Muslim, all have molested, raped, and had sexual contact with parishioners. The Protestant,Baptist, Jewish, and Muslim also do it at a much larger percentage than the Catholics. It just shows that America still discriminates against the Catholic religion. Don't get me wrong, these preists should go to jail for longer than the average joe because of their position and it should have never been covered up. Beleive me, the 96-99% of good cathoic preists are embarrassed by this scandal also. Cardinal Rigali is handling it the right way and is a no nonsense type. This will weed out the bad preists that gave in to sin, and the church will become stronger and more holy. Prayers go out to all of the victims and the Catholic Church.

• Paulinebyrne | Mar 10, 2011, 07:29 PM EST

  What has happened to the Catholic Church!!!!! I hate secrecy, cover-ups, etc., how such brilliant minds chose to cover-up instead of letting the breeze blow through all the corners and crevices, and put an end to it honestly. If you cannot trust the Church who can you trust? this attacks one's faith at its very core. Of course Religion is man made obviously to suit men. My God is not like this.

• DylanEP | Mar 10, 2011, 07:22 PM EST

  It might have escaped your notice, but the abuse of children in Islamic madrasas is endemic and not reported at all. My bet is that in less than 20 years the way the Church dealt with evil priests will seem totally enlightened compared to what's going on in Islamic religious schools and mosques in Pakistan, Sudan, Nigeria... and Europe! Here in the UK, a documentary team recently filmed the child abuse (physical) in British mosque-schools. Shocking would be an understatement. Also, two weeks ago one of the UK's most prominent Imams - Mohammed Hanif Khan - was found guilty of raping two boys in an English mosque. Needless to say, in politically correct Britain, this story hardly made it into the newspapers (and didn't appear at all in most), yet historical allegations of abuse (usually dating back more than 40 years) against dead priests make the front page! By the way, the IRA were constantly condemned by the Church, as are sex abusing priests. Not many voices in Islam condemn terrorism or abusive Imams! The IRA's leadership was also very anti-Catholic - and Sinn Fein's policies do not conform to Church teaching in any way. I take it this writer's not to clever when it comes to research?

• McNabb1966 | Mar 10, 2011, 06:25 PM EST

  @seanomelbourne...So-called "Christian terrorist groups" get investigated on a daily basis by the FBI and other federal agencies, not to mention a host of private watchdog groups. That's reality. Why are you afraid of dealing with reality? And when you can come up with evidence that the Vatican is sponsoring terrorist groups and encouraging homicide bombers then maybe your comment will have some relevance. Please give us some examples of a captured bomber of any stripe getting a free pass from the government? Everytime you attempt to distort reality you destroy any credibility your argument might otherwise have had.

• seanomelbourne | Mar 10, 2011, 05:10 PM EST

  Singledonald will say anything for a Xmas card I might send him one.

• seanomelbourne | Mar 10, 2011, 05:09 PM EST

  Maybe he can investigate the Christian terrorist who planted a bomb in Spokane Washington aimed at murdering innocent civilians at a MLK march a few days ago or other Right wing Christian terrorist groups or maybe Opus Dei for their cover up of pedophilia and their use of Vatican passports to allow Nazi's to escape eastern Europe and travel to S.America after the 2nd world war.

• McNabb1966 | Mar 10, 2011, 04:46 PM EST

  Reality time for Patrick Roberts and the tools who think this article has merit. Islam is not "on trial" nor is it being investigated. We have a national security issue that involves individuals and groups who are committing and attempting to commit terrorist acts IN THE NAME OF ISLAM. The issues that King is addressing with these hearings involve American-born clerics like Anwar al-Awlaki and the terrorists he has inspired and mentored, including Nawaf al-Hazmi, Khalid al-Mihdhar, Nidal Malik Hasan, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, Faisal Shahzad, and others. That's reality. Equating the abuse scandals of the Catholic Church with international and homegrown terrorism is silly enough but it should also be pointed out that there is already a platform for the discussion and investigation of the sex scandals. The scandals of the Catholic Church have been examined very closely and continue to be. That's not Peter King's responsibility, is it? Now I know that in the bizarro world of the Left where Pat Roberts dwells there is no difference between Anwar al-Awlaki and Mother Theresa but Pat's tenuous grasp on reality is not Peter King's problem.

• MasonsDaughter | Mar 10, 2011, 03:45 PM EST

  King is a "rethuglican" -- nuf said!

• haikued2 | Mar 10, 2011, 03:44 PM EST

  Diversion is a classic way to argue and avoid the real question...this guy put on a classic emotional crying scene as well. FACE the ISSUE. Radical Islam is working to radicalize American Muslims, Radical Islam has vowed to wipe Israel and all the Jews from the face of the earth, Radical Islam declared WAR on America and advocates killing Americans, SO why would our government not want to find out exactly what the NON-radicalized Muslims in Amerca are doing to stop the radicalization of their members and what are they willing to do to identify radicalized Imams and others who are working to KILL US??? Stop being so damned politically correct and THINK for a change. King is like a bull in a China shop, but he is, at least, doing his job.

• rosieoneill | Mar 10, 2011, 03:24 PM EST

  That's really a stupid suggestion. They are two different thingsl. Peter King is head of Homeland Security and that's his job.

• SingleDonald | Mar 10, 2011, 03:14 PM EST

  Peter King is my Congressman, and I have gone to one of his rallies, prior to Election Day. He sends me Christmas cards, as I send them to him and his wife. Keep up the good work, Congressman Peter!

• cillowen | Mar 10, 2011, 01:21 PM EST

  Didn't know of pope's priests blowing up americans. a comparison such as posited by a muslim takes some stretching. I know of which his fearing indirectly muddled logic speaks to - its the embarrasement of having a tribe positioned in the land of his forebears while his brethern remain checkmated on all corners. King's work can thereby be directly a beneficiary a suck up to our master race of this planet. Madman hitler had done a switcheroo on that notion some 60 years ago. King's stock is gonna rise Big Time while his blood brothers Sheen, Gibson, Lohan will be trashed a plenty while still being deemed of sound mind. That Christ-thing anger will be Gibson's cross to bear for ever more. Be happy in the knowledge that King too can be discarded when his faux pax stumble occours. His buddy Bloombery's remarks left him unphased.

• cillowen | Mar 10, 2011, 01:04 PM EST

  didn't know of pope's priests blowing up americans. a comparison such as posited by a muslim takes some stretching.

• FastEddy | Mar 10, 2011, 12:47 PM EST

  So, why not Buddhists or Mennonites or how about Maori congress critters? It all amounts to the same thing: an opposing religious group chastising and investigating another. Of course it could be Catholic congress critters as well ... but we all know how long it takes them to get to the bottom of things ... :>o ... :>( ...

• colkelley | Mar 10, 2011, 12:46 PM EST

  Apples and oranges proposed by a liberal moron.

• STUMPTOWN | Mar 10, 2011, 12:23 PM EST

  No one is above civil law in any nation that they are in unless authorised by that government such as a diplomat. When a investigation is called for by a given goverment, so be it.

• PhlutiePhan | Mar 10, 2011, 12:15 PM EST

  Sinful Catholic priests are nothing more than "shadows of Judas Iscariot". Muslim extremists are something else entirely. Their ambition is to "conquer the world". They kill and maim for that goal. They are "rats in the alley". Renegade Catholic priests are "snakes in the countryside".

• eiriamach | Mar 10, 2011, 12:02 PM EST

  The "Philadelphia 21" IS a shocking revelation for Catholics and ex-Catholics who have withstood many a shock in the ongoing, lengthy, horrific, clerical sex-abuse scandal. Reading this article was cathartic. I do not, of course, expect that anyone will try to set a Catholicism investigation in motion in Congress! But this article presents a logical argument-by-analogy against Peter King's treatment of Muslims. I assume that was the author's intent: "All the above goes to show that we can rarely afford to be holier than thou." Well said!

• jdi2269 | Mar 10, 2011, 11:47 AM EST

  ROBERTS...JUST QUIT....YOU ARE AN IDIOT!

• Daytonavejim | Mar 10, 2011, 11:35 AM EST

  I don't know who is a bigger idiot Pat or Keith Ellison. Abhorant as they are pedophilic priests have nothing to do with the security of America. They harm people but don't murder them. America's failure to recognize the current threat of radical islam and their "political correctness" will be their undoing.

• SeamusMor | Mar 10, 2011, 11:10 AM EST

  This is the dumbest thing I've seen in print.

• MikeRock | Mar 10, 2011, 10:22 AM EST

  Hey Roberts, DROP DEAD!!!

• manhattan | Mar 10, 2011, 09:46 AM EST

  Who beside muslim terrorists are trying to kill us? You accuse Peter King of picking on muslims and insult him by saying muslims should question christians about pedophile priests. Are you drinking coolade? How dare you compare the thousands murdered by moslem fanatics to pedophile priests. The priests are being dealt with but if it is up to you and the rest of your cool aide drinkers we will do nothing about the treat from HOMEGROWN AL QUEDA LOVING MUSLIMS..

• BishopSean | Mar 10, 2011, 09:31 AM EST

  Interesting idea. But, the Christian Bible nowhere condones that people be coerced into believing in Christianity by harrassment, torture and/or death. The Muslim Koran does exactly that. Aberrations such as the Inquisition, Crusades, extermination of heretics, were unsupported by the teachings of Jesus Christ. John 6:60ff shows that Jesus was saddened by the departure of many of his disciples, but he did not retaliate. Apocalypse 3:12 says: "Behold I stand at the door and knock: if any man hear my voice and opén the door, I will come in to him and sup with him and he with me." Apostacy from Islam is punished by death, usually executed by family menbers. To be respectful and loving towards muslims does not mean being naive about Islam and its Koran.

• horsepistol | Mar 10, 2011, 09:28 AM EST

  I have just a short statement to make on this news article. The Church in and of itself is not a representative of sinful mankind but represents the Christ ascended to Heaven. When the media attempts to confuse this vicar-ship with its attribution to humanity it should be considered a failure in those who cannot see what forces are at work here. Turning away from or attempting to destroy this institution, which is filled with this sinful corruption, is evil at work against the tempered foundation with intent to destroy this virtual image of Christ embraced in the believing populations hearts and minds. Those who are intent on mudslinging this continued internal church corruption should be ashamed and noted as such by their readers. I have no problem with a Muslim casting judgment upon those considered representatives of the church, fore they are only men standing in a position, that will eventually be replaced, sooner or later, with other men of good or evil nature. Forgiveness practiced by the Church does not cast judgment with impunity upon humanity but humanity appears to be evolving into the role of God. Who are casting these stones or hindered by the obstetric planks? In my concluding opinion they should take a look into the mirror.