Maureen Dowd calls Jackie Kennedy a ‘Geisha Girl’ in NY Times column ----Agrees with her that Irish have a persecution complex
By: Patrick Roberts | Published Tuesday, November 1, 2011, 7:14 PM | Updated Tuesday, November 1, 2011, 7:14 PM

The New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd has called Jackie Kennedy (Pictured above in Waterford, Ireland in 1967) a ‘Geisha girl’ and agrees with her that the Irish have a persecution complex.
Irish American Dowd says that Jackie was a deeply compliant wife who “was a Geisha” who prided herself on it.
She quotes Jackie in the sensational new book based on interviews she gave six months after John F.Kennedy was assassinated as saying” It was really a rather terribly Victorian or Asiatic relationship we had.”
Interviewer Arthur Schlesinger asked was that like being a compliant Japanese wife Jackie Kennedy responded, “Yeah which I think is the best”.
Don’t expect Dowd to be breaking out a Dinty Moore can of Irish stew anytime soon either.
After Jackie O had stated that she was glad to replace Irish stew in the White House kitchen with sophisticated French cuisine Dowd agrees.
She also agrees with Kennedy saying that the Irish have a persecution complex.
“Dowd wrote ‘ I have to agree with her asperity about the suitability of French cuisine for the White House rather than Irish stew and the tendency of the Irish to have persecution complexes.”
Dowd agrees that Kennedy comes across as a snob as she has been accused of but states;
“Her snobbery was mostly aimed at the egomaniacs, the incompetent and the power crazed.’
She also says Kennedy clearly ignored her husband’s womanizing.
Dowd wrote, “she could be unsparing and caustic except about her sometimes imperfect husband whom she bathes in an impossibly perfect glow.”
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Read more:Jackie Kennedy disliked the Irish and cooking Irish stewJackie Kennedy was a complete snob about the Irish and othersJackie Kennedy’s grandchildren shocked by her antiquated view of women________________________
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Switch to the desktop site to post a comment.warlocks | Sep 27, 2011, 09:48 PM EDT
ALL POPPY COCK. JUST TO SELL A BOOK. Jackie was the best looking first lady the white house ever had. she had class and brought class to the white house in spite of her chasing husband jack. who could not keep his zipper of his pants closed to any women he wanted . you have to hand it to Jack & Jackie they played the part of a happy married Family. and the press was kind to them in fact they created the Camolot Fiction that the Family was without sin and lived a perfect family life. and the American public saw them through Rose colored glasses. Just goes to show you how the Millions can be Swayed & Brain washed by the Government & the Press. and it is still going on today! ------------Example The O'bama Farce ! he was created by the Press to Hood wink the American Public . and it worked! Wake up America you're being Hood winked. little by little we are losing our Rights ! Day by Day . THIS Country is no longer Democratic its fast becoming a Socialist country! the Government wants to Dictate from Birth to Death! and then some to Tax your assets after you are still warm in your Grave !
PatriciaMarya | Sep 17, 2011, 11:09 AM EDT
Did anybody posting their comments read the actual article in Wednesday, Sept. 14th NYTimes? Read it and then comment. Reacting to a synopsis means that you are reacting to one man's opinion. Read the entire article and then make your own opinion.
jamthecat | Sep 16, 2011, 11:34 PM EDT
Y'know, bogsidebunny, I live in the 21st Century. Why don't you join us? It must be getting old living in the 1950s.
bogsidebunny | Sep 16, 2011, 12:52 AM EDT
JAMTHECAT: Maureen Dowd is just another Pinko, Liberal NY Times stooge. Never mind what she writes. It's all Socialist B.S.!
jamthecat | Sep 15, 2011, 08:10 PM EDT
Who is Maureen Dowd and why do we care about what she says?
DanOLoingsigh | Sep 15, 2011, 07:10 PM EDT
For Fecks sake lads, can’t we at least agree how long we’ve been persecuted? Tooreenagren reckons a thousand years, so that’d be from the reign of Ethelred the Unready; bunkerisland reckons it six hundred years…what happened to the other 400 years, we must be told..and soon!!!
seanomelbourne | Sep 15, 2011, 07:06 PM EDT
Anyone who has studied the history of french cooking would know that the Irish influenced french cooking.This influence began with the flight of the earls. The Irish also were involved with wine making and brandy production.The ignorance of Irish cuisine by O'Dowd or Jackie kennedy is quiet amusing.They obviously have not tasted venison,fish or a few Galway oysters. Their lack of knowledge thinking it,s all about 'Irish stew" is pathetic.French cooking would not be where it is today without the Irish infuences dating back to the 17th. century.Therefore in a way jackie loved Irish cooking and O,Dowd is just ignorant.BTW I do not have a persecution problem ,nor doe's any of my Irish friends.Eire go bragh
cillowen | Sep 15, 2011, 05:19 PM EDT
Dowdy Dowd whom I see on the tele is a character that sickens a body. She always appear desperate to find that Anglo accented words to question or such cute words to have others marvel at. The snootiness of her turned up haughty nose as she trys being so bery bery british. Two others worth mentioning were Pat Moynihan and Bill Buckley who's facial gymnastics sadly comical trying to be Anglos supreme. Trying to fit within the democracy that regards the Irish as drunks - played well across her diaspoa and that special connection that is in effect across usa. Dowd is not alone in that regard - a dysfunctional soul whose slavic state of being, as like millions before her so well developed over 800 years under her benelovent occupier master. What a thing of nothing were left with.
cillowen | Sep 15, 2011, 05:13 PM EDT
Dowdy Dowd whom I see on the tele is a character that sickens a body. She always appear desperate to find Anglo words to question or cute words to have others marvel at. The snootiness of her nose as she trys being so bery bery british. Two others worth mentioning are Pat Moynihan and Bill Buckley who's facial gymnastics sadly trying to be Anglos. Trying to fit within the democracy that regards the Irish as drunks. Dowd is not alone in that regard - a dysfunctional soul whose slavic state of being, as like millions before her so well developed over 800 years under her benelovent occupier master. What a thing of nothing were left with.
dv727dv | Sep 15, 2011, 04:56 PM EDT
So "Mo" thinks Ms. "O" was a "good" snob. Jackie "O" "good" snob, Nancy Reagan "bad" snob. Dowd, like "O" is a fraud. It's that simple.
PatriciaMarya | Sep 15, 2011, 04:13 PM EDT
markjmills - she is a very inciteful writer and calls it out. Rebelforce - she is of Irish heritage so she can make her First Amendment stance from her own frame of reference. TomSwinford - I too noticed the racist comments around me when I was at the Galway Market 2/13/09 and complimented and tipped the Jazz Trumpeter who was of color; was taken aback since I am a New Yorker - we are used to seeing people in terms of different shades as natural. And why was "abortion" used in various comments to cast aspersion on Dowd? Was that in the NYT op-ed piece? And did not Ms. Kennedy herself cast herself in the subservient role in the interviews given to Schlesinger? And Dowd did complement the woman when she pointed out that Kennedy's snob barometer was pointed in the right direction! Please, relax. Freedom of the Press also gives the reader the freedom to put the newspaper down.
markjmills | Sep 15, 2011, 03:32 PM EDT
The only reason anyone in the US reads Mo's Kool-Aid fueled drivel is to laugh at her.
biggles008 | Sep 15, 2011, 01:55 PM EDT
I agree with ANTOMAN.
Rebelforce | Sep 15, 2011, 01:50 PM EDT
Can you imagine what would happen to Maureen if she agreed that the Jews have a "persecution complex"? LOL She'd be lucky if she could find a job flipping burgers at Wendy's.
fawnmarie | Sep 15, 2011, 01:01 PM EDT
I prefer to frame it differently; we enjoy being tragic.
bunkerisland | Sep 15, 2011, 11:50 AM EDT
"Persecution Complex"? Something the Brits surely would not have in light of the Imperialistic behavior. Since the "yoke of the oppressor" has been cast off the complex diminishes. It takes a while after 600 years of exploitation.
falconflash | Sep 15, 2011, 11:17 AM EDT
Could not disagree more... Ask any coach, teacher or boss.... the Irish don't whine or complain, they just do their job.
falconflash | Sep 15, 2011, 10:57 AM EDT
Of course the Irish have a persecution complex. Stories of Paddy with a "chip on his shoulder" are legendary worldwide. We blame our history for this but I believe there is more to it than that. We have long excelled at playing the old hand of victimhood and greivance, expecting - even demanding - that the world opens its doors to us, while at home, we make no attempt to conceal our bitter and often violent racism toward immigrants in Ireland. From victimhood and grievance there naturally arises a powerful sense of entitlement, that the world owes us. Yes, we do indeed have a persecution complex and it has not served us well.
bonitapowers | Sep 15, 2011, 10:54 AM EDT
Who knows, maybe the irish food was not as good as it is now! As for me, it doesn't get any better than the Westport Bar - best food anywhere!!!!
IowaMike | Sep 15, 2011, 10:49 AM EDT
I'm no fan of the Kennedy's but Maureen Dowd calling Jackie a 'Gisha Girl'. I think Charles Simmons said it best, ""Ridicule is the first and last argument of fools." This captures Dowd perfectly.
Tooreenagrena | Sep 15, 2011, 10:49 AM EDT
Persecution complex?. Who wouldn't have after a thousand years of persecution and misrule.
Cavanlass | Sep 15, 2011, 10:46 AM EDT
Pounder says it all!
PhlutiePhan | Sep 15, 2011, 10:39 AM EDT
There is no doubt that Maureen Dowd "runs with the wolves". Jackie was a good mother. The third child was born dead and she "kept on tickin'" Maureen represents the liberal wing of the abortionist crowd. You talk about a dichotomy!
donal1951 | Sep 15, 2011, 10:25 AM EDT
I am first generation Irish American and worked for many years in Boston. I did not find that men such as William M. Bulger had a persecution complex. Bulger, and many other Irish American scholars, could hold their own with any other ethnic group and knew it. But they did not gloat.
pounder | Sep 15, 2011, 10:19 AM EDT
Hey Mo, take a long walk........
falconflash | Sep 15, 2011, 10:03 AM EDT
Maureen is the classic Irish Media Liberal (IML) in that she knows in her heart that abortion is, in fact, baby killing, but would never compromise her liberal standing in the media world. Too much money and prestige at stake there for her to tamper with. At least Judas tried to return the 30 pieces of silver. Maureen banked it.
whiteycat | Sep 15, 2011, 09:49 AM EDT
I would not be surprised about LBJ.I agree also with auyoman on this sheet.
chesapeake | Sep 15, 2011, 09:40 AM EDT
I have little use either of the ladies, thank you.
Rebelforce | Sep 15, 2011, 09:01 AM EDT
Maureen didn't get her lucrative gig at the NY Times for nothing. She's saavy enough to know who butters her soda bread and she knows what they like to read.....a lot of politically correct, feminist goop and gibberish. If you're looking for a real snob, Maureen is your gal.
McNamara31 | Sep 15, 2011, 08:34 AM EDT
So Maureen Dowd states that Jackie was a snob....interesting. And Miss Dowd agrees with Jackie that the Irish have a "persecution complex"...again interesting, when coming from one who came from a very comfortable supportive background as compared to what the early Irish encountered upon these shores.
antoman | Sep 15, 2011, 08:08 AM EDT
Given enough time Americans will develop a complex too. After all. They are only 200 and odd years old and a tad immature yet.