52 Comments

• blst4m4ev | Sep 03, 2010, 09:58 AM EDT

  I think the majority of America is WITH Arizona. Did that judge live on the border of Arizona for even a month before she made that decision? The US citizens DO NOT MIND being asked to show ID. It happens all over the world. Anywhere else you should not be without your passport. With the poverty and crime and drugs, our southern borders are indistinguishable from the country the illegals are trying to leave. US should protect its CITIZENS. How can we find out who is legal and illegal without checking? I admire Arizona for standing up for its CITIZENS!

• azwolfeagle | Aug 31, 2010, 03:25 AM EDT

  I am voting for Jan Brewer. I am tired of kidnappings, the abuse and the lack of law enforcement in Arizona. I respect legal visitors and have no problem with people wanting to live in the USA. However learn the language and take the classes to be a citizen.

• maireadinmelb | Aug 16, 2010, 09:21 AM EDT

  The judiciary is there to make sure that those in politics do not break the law to give themselves more power, this was a move to get away from the rule of a royal family. This separation of powers is the basis of democracy regardless of the issue!!!

• Monsoonman | Aug 14, 2010, 12:43 PM EDT

  If the judiciary keeps breaking the will of the American public, the judiciary will become irrelevant. I remember seeing a taste of this when the Florida elections were under contest between bush and gore. Democrat election officials wanted to take ballot boxes into a locked room where they could review hanging chad ballots in private. Private citizens revolted and started beating down those doors.

• hancock | Aug 13, 2010, 10:36 AM EDT

  We want the borders secured.

• maireadinmelb | Aug 13, 2010, 08:03 AM EDT

  Ok guys, let me get this straight! When immigrants want to go to america they HAVE to do it legally?? But when a judge makes a decision based on the LAW and the legality of Arizona's actions (ie the division of state and federal powers) she is criticised??? Which way do you want it??

• Monsoonman | Aug 12, 2010, 09:36 AM EDT

  Every election season the democrats break out the class card and the race card. I think we will see heavy use this year as they are so low in the polls and since the race card has already been used early and often so far.

• IrishAndProud | Aug 11, 2010, 11:46 PM EDT

  Sorry, 'ratslayer' -- but you've just described the Democrats, not the Repubs. Democrats base virtually everything they do on race, class, and socio-economic stratification. A Dem dip running for office in New Hampshire has just openly said he wished Sarah Palin was on the plane crash in Alaska that killed a former senator...that's a really loving thing to say, right? Or how about the New Black Panther leader in Philly, who openly said (and you can view this on You Tube) that he hates white people and wants to kill their babies. Or Jesse Jackson calling NYC 'Hymie Town' or lillie-white Harry Reid saying he doesn't know how any Hispanics could be Republicans, etc. Talk about being 'idiotic' and 'hypocritical'...you either missed this stuff and/or are ignoring it, rat. Can I just call you 'rat,' for short?

• Liamkeyes | Aug 06, 2010, 07:19 PM EDT

  The Illegal Immigration" issue is an absolute mess. I have being told that there are anywhere from 12 million to 20 million "illegal aliens" in the USA mostly in the States bordering Calfornia, Nevada, New Mexico and Texas. Nobody, not even the Federal Government can give us a Ball Park Figure. What's going down? The Federal Governmebnt should use everything at their disposal to STOP the Drug Carte ls from coming into the USA.

• Ratslayer | Aug 05, 2010, 06:16 PM EDT

  The GOP -- racists, idiots, and hypocritical closet cases.

• hancock | Aug 04, 2010, 11:19 PM EDT

  Obama is incompetent.

• seanomelbourne | Aug 02, 2010, 07:58 PM EDT

  I do hancock, we are in an election cycle and same old fear and smear rhetoric convulses from the middle of the road right wing fascists as it doe's in the good old U.S.A. The hypocritical GOP never tried to fix the problem(8yrs of Bush) to much cheap labor for their financial backers. And now they lambaste Obama and at the same time refuse to negotiate a policy with him how shallow they are.

• hancock | Aug 02, 2010, 04:24 PM EDT

  Nice try Sean, but show me racist remarks I made or try to win argument on merit. We need to control the US border. Insults from far left wingers from 10,000 miles away ring hollow. Worry about Australia.

• Monsoonman | Aug 01, 2010, 09:57 PM EDT

  I asked you to back up your statements with proven stats. As the TB goes its reported exposure is on the rise in the US go to the bureau of health statistics to see that and yes Arizona is the kidnap capital of the US directly due to illegal aliens in our midst....Anyhow Dennis you can throw your seiu stats around here all day long the truth is if you are here illegally, get out.

• DennisQ | Aug 01, 2010, 05:22 PM EDT

  Monsoonman, if you're going to use statistical arguments, you'll need some data. You definitely should not use the rise in tuberculosis as an example of something you can blame on foreigners. TB has not been increasing in the United States; it has declined steadily since 1953, the earliest year which the Center for Disease Control reports on its website. The incidence of TB has also steadily declined among Mexicans living in the United States. And you can't blame rising crime rates on immigrants either. Crime rates have actually dropped in the most immigrant-friendly U.S. cities. For example, in New York, where the police don't ask about immigration status, crime rates have plummeted.

• Monsoonman | Aug 01, 2010, 12:34 PM EDT

  "Crime rates actually drop, and there's no discernible impact on public health????? wtf Dennis, give us a link for this tripe and explain to us why we are testing positive to exposure to TB all of a sudden? Why do we have the west nile virus here? Why do we have resurgences of once formerly wiped out diseases spreading through our population? Why is the Phoenix tucson area the kidnap capital of the US? You need to get better talking points to try to anesthetize us with, perhaps the long seiu bus ride to the protest in Arizona wasn't conducive to a good script writing?

• DennisQ | Aug 01, 2010, 11:52 AM EDT

  There will continue to be widespread grousing about immigrants undermining our culture, lowering wage standards, committing crimes and spreading disease . . . but there will not be any massive crackdown. That's because the reality is different from what it is perceived to be. Immigrants, who come here out of desperation, come here to work and raise their families. Crime rates actually drop, and there's no discernible impact on public health. Overly restrictive immigration policies create a permanent underclass, the fact of which does indeed negatively impact working people. That negative impact arises from the restrictions, not from the immigrants. The restrictions have other negative effects as well - they result in less control over immigration, not more. When everybody is illegal, nobody is. We end up with foreign criminals who'd otherwise be filtered out. Let's get back to intelligent regulation; otherwise we'll have no control at all. The emphasis is on the word intelligent; stupid regulation is what we've got now.

• seanomelbourne | Aug 01, 2010, 02:22 AM EDT

  WE have our own immigration problems thank you Hancock. WE just handle the situation more humanely. Neither do we see a terrorist or a drug dealer under every ill-shod person entering the country. I acknowledge your problems re. illegal immigrants,But the use of emotionally charged dialogue lends itself to a racist slant, "aliens" is one word which comes to mind or maybe "wetbacks" and so on. Demonizing an ethnic group is racist commentary. What is deemed "far left liberal" by the right in the U.S.A. is usually middle of the road commentary in the real world. I fear Hancock you should extract your cranium and open your eyes to some common sense.

• Monsoonman | Jul 31, 2010, 09:08 PM EDT

  Actually Dennis me boy, maybe I didn't understand your meaning of "patronize"...If you mean do I buy anything that you sell on these boards the answer is no and my answer is perfectly correct. Oh and stop throwing the race card around here, just because anyone is anti illegal immigrant doesn't mean we don't love and respect our fellow hispanics in this country e pluribus unum me boy. and I am not anonymous call me anytime and we can chat 867-5309...tell Jenny you want to talk to Mr. Monsoonman.

• DennisQ | Jul 31, 2010, 12:43 PM EDT

  I've noticed that right wingers get snippy when their racist statements are received as such. They are shocked, shocked that anyone would accuse them of racism. In that regard they resemble Humpty Dumpty in Lewis Carroll's Through the Looking Glass: "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less." "The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things." "The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master - that's all." And now Monsoonman has graduated to making patronizing remarks while denying his clear intention to do just that.

• Monsoonman | Jul 31, 2010, 10:54 AM EDT

  Oh Dennis! It was not meant to be patronizing, it was just an observation. Does the sugar in your tay come from the seiu gummint?

• hancock | Jul 31, 2010, 01:04 AM EDT

  Our border is a joke, soon it won't be so funny. I'm glad far left liberal Irish and Australians like it though. Maybe they 'l;l take in some illegal immigrants next.

• seanomelbourne | Jul 31, 2010, 12:54 AM EDT

  "Put your watch back 50 years we are about to land in Phoenix Arizona.

• DennisQ | Jul 30, 2010, 01:01 PM EDT

  Oh, I see. Your arguments fail, so you try being patronizing. I guess it beats name-calling, but that's next. Good luck with that, too, Monsoonman.

• Monsoonman | Jul 30, 2010, 09:58 AM EDT

  Dennis, me fine lad. Do you notice who the common denominator is on all of these boards breathlessly claiming it is not true! it is not true!...is you?....Like I have gently admonished you in the past, boy....Do not point the finger at others lest you see the three others pointing back at yerself...

• DennisQ | Jul 30, 2010, 05:20 AM EDT

  No, I don't live in Arizona, but I didn't live in the 18th century either. However, if you say something that's complete nonsense about the 1700's, I'll demand that you present evidence. There's no crime wave in Arizona; in fact, crime has gone down significantly. So you're either repeating things you heard because you don't know any better; or another way to put is that you're making things up to fit your argument. But either way, the effect is the same. You can't document an Arizona crime wave, and your statements that heroic measures are necessary to stem the tide of lawlessness have to be seen as what they are - right wing nonsense.

• DennisQ | Jul 30, 2010, 04:50 AM EDT

  IAP concludes that references to racism in America are a gratuitous slur against "conservatives"; he'd rather that this inflammatory word be dropped from polite discourse. If racism doesn't bother me, he says, it shouldn't bother you. That's pretty self-serving, don't you think? IAP's policy viewpoints are functionally indistiguishable from those of racists, but not to worry, his heart is pure. He then lists a host of problems associated with the illegality of thousands of immigrants, but he never thinks of legalization as a remedy. Why would that be? Does he think Mexicans have a criminal bent? Are they selfish, indolent layabouts? That's what the Nativists said about the Irish in the 19th Century, and they didn't see themselves as racists, either.

• IrishAndProud | Jul 30, 2010, 04:02 AM EDT

  Dennis, have you ever been to Arizona? If not, how can you sit there from afar and poo-poo those who are actually there and who have to live day-in and day-out with the crime and other issues the illegals you embrace even more than Americans bring to that sovereign state? And Dennis...how can you accuse others of 'racism' when you have just engaged in racially stereotyping others as rednecks? (my Jewish family members would probably LAUGH at that one...as would my Civil War Union ancestors). You need to be honest about your OWN bigotries and prejudices, Dennis, which are obvious...before you falsely point that jutty little finger of yours at others. You hold no monopoly on any such issue, my friend.

• DennisQ | Jul 30, 2010, 03:33 AM EDT

  Redneck, you are well named. Very little of what you write is true. Arizona is not experiencing a crime wave; in fact, crime is going down. You are scapegoating immigrants for their involvement in the drug trade, when that is a predictable consequence of making drugs and them illegal. There are smarter ways to deal with both domestic problems, and indeed there are smarter ways to deal with the enemies we make in the world with our stupid and unnecessary wars. The fact that you can't imagine other ways of doing things suggests that the limitation is with you, not with immigrants, drug traffickers, or with the "enemies" that our overly militaristic foreign policy makes for us. We need regulation of immigration; and that's not what we have now. We have stupid policies that - predictably - turn out to be counterproductive. Incidentally, I've got to say I admire your nickname. There are other rednecks posting here, but you're the only one who has openly embraced the term.

• azredneck | Jul 30, 2010, 01:15 AM EDT

  I too am irish and proud of it. I also live in Arizona and yes it is as bad as proponents of our law say it is. We are the second biggest kidnapping capital in the world, amazing amounts of drugs funnel through our state, illegal immigrants are severely abused, robbed, and worse. Our government tells us our borders are safer than ever when up to ONE MILLION PEOPLE illegally sneak across the border every single year. Thousands are OTM's (Other Than Mexican) and consist of many countries including Iraq, Afganistan, Yemen, and other countries that don't like the USA. The USA is the only country in the world that doesn't inforce immigration laws while it's citizens are begging for it when their world is destroyed by illegal immigration. Many thousands of mexicans were murdered within 25 miles of the US border in just the last couple years and they are moving into the USA to support their amazingly profitable drug trade. What kind of an idiot believes Arizona is wrong when they simply reiterrate federal law when the US government won't do their job? This is getting bad and those that are against the laws really need to review the truth and not the BS that opponents keep spreading. The law Arizona made is very benign compared to the lies people have spread to prey on gullible people. We need your help

• IrishAndProud | Jul 29, 2010, 10:07 PM EDT

  Sean, YOU are the one full of b-s. Denigration of the American majority (which now opposes him, on this and every other major issue) is virtually all Obama and his goons have been doing ever since his sorry 'presidency' begun, and that's one main reason he's in such trouble. And they do it (among other ways) by saying PRECISELY the kind of stuff you've just said: 'no substance,' 'you're full of b-s,' 'you're a racist'...geez, sean. I just got throug chiding Dennis for playing that stupid race card again, and now here you come along from waaay down under, doing it again because you have nothing else...and this from one who isn't exactly friendly towards certain ethnic groups, himself. Name a single thing I've said on this matter that is 'substanceless'. There is not one SHRED of substance in this JUDGE'S ruling, other than coddling and accomodating illegal aliens, period. Clinton appointed this judge (she wasn't elected by the people, that's for damned sure), and true to leftist form she's ruled the state of Arizona cannot even defend its own borders, whilst of course not requiring the feds to get off THEIR butts and do THEIR job by securing it(which is of course why Arizona passed this law in the first place). And with this mammoth a majority now angered and alienated from Obama, this was just another nail in their coffin, come election time in November.

• seanomelbourne | Jul 29, 2010, 08:03 PM EDT

  The letter of the law was upheld by the judge in this case Irish and proud can only denigrate any one with an opposing point of view,short on substance long on b-s. I read it's the judges fault,Clinton fault,Barack Obamas fault. The law maybe wrong is that to much for your bigoted mind to bear.

• IrishAndProud | Jul 29, 2010, 06:55 PM EDT

  And my gosh, Dennis...the 'No Irish Need Apply Crowd?' You're still trying that useless 'racism' approach? That's pathetic. An unelected judge (here we go, again) has just stomped all over a perfectly-legal, common-sense (and if you ask me too mild) law with huge majority support nationwide, and all you can do is tow the B. Hussein Obama approach and call any opposition to this 'racism'?? That's not only goofily ineffective anymore, it's outright uncreative. This unelected Clinton judge has just provided ILLEGAL ALIENS (in caps, again!) with politically-correct 'rights' that AMERICANS don't even have (example: we have to show our drivers' ID's when we're stopped by a cop, or in any number of other instances such as getting credit or applying for a mortgage, and now ILLEGALS can NEVER be asked to show ANY ID, for anything...and you can bet that if a person is Hispanic the cops will avoid asking them anything and just stick to whites and anyone else. This has just created the very kind of profiling that the law's critics have been howling about...but since that profiling is now going to be directed at whites and blacks instead, the pro-illegals will probably be doing cartwheels for joy. But as I've said, the Dems have just shot themselves again, with this one. November will be a bloodbath. They've stepped all over the people one too many times, now. Actually, MANY too many times.

• IrishAndProud | Jul 29, 2010, 06:41 PM EDT

  Yes, Dennis...ILLEGAL ALIENS (all in caps again, in your honor). We tend to do that because guys/gals like YOU keep flippantly and loosely throwing the term 'immigrant' around, when speaking of actual, real immigrants (those who do it legally, i.e.) and/or illegal aliens, as if the two are somehow interchangeable, no difference, etc. They're NOT the same, Dennis. An IMMIGRANT and an ILLEGAL ALIEN (there's those caps, again) are two...different...things, which you already know, and sometimes we emphasize the fact to keep it clear in the midst of your airbrushing the two together (as if we won't notice that). They're not the same.

• AmAncINED | Jul 29, 2010, 06:34 PM EDT

  Why don't you move to the Arizona border and offer to take in these Illegals and support them financially? You don't know anything about me, so shut up. I've already personally helped several groups of foreigners who came into this country LEGALLY and followed the rules and became naturalized citizens. As an RN and a TEFL teacher, I've worked with numerous groups over the years to obtain citizenship. Some of them have stayed in my home. I can tell you that these people are deeply offended and resentful that they've followed the rules and others get a free pass when they sneak over the border. This is America and I don't have to agree with you, Dennis. Can the "actually mean" crap. Btw, I have Irish ancestry and lots of it and the above article was about immigration, not the wars in Iraq & Afghanistan.

• DennisQ | Jul 29, 2010, 05:49 PM EDT

  Much good would be accomplished if people said what they actually mean. If you don't want the place overrun with foreigners, don't waste everybody's time with talk of legality, the safety of our citizens, etc. . . . Everybody knows that's not what you're really all about anyhow. The same people who squawk about illegal immigrants - they even put the word in ALL CAPS - never squawk about America's entirely illegal wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. So come right out and throw in with the No Irish Need Apply crowd. That's what you really want to say, but you just don't have the guts to do so in front of so many people who are directly affected by your bigotry.

• McNamara31 | Jul 29, 2010, 05:08 PM EDT

  irishwxman..One more time. Don't you think it's a given, and common sense, if people support the "Arizona Law" that they also support closed borders? The surprise to this poll, was the high percentage of people of this category, also supporting a path to citizenship.

• AmAncINED | Jul 29, 2010, 03:22 PM EDT

  I'm with IP, KansasUSA, and Irishwxman. About the Supreme Court, I don't know, considering the latest appointments - ?$#@??? ILLEGAL immigration is wrong, wrong, wrong; also defined as UNLAWFUL. Do other countries welcome ILLEGALS entering and living off the backs of LEGAL residents? All of my ancestors entered this country LEGALLY and EARNED their way to citizenship - I have the papers from the various courthouses to prove it. Obama & Co. are catering to the Hispanics to get their votes. Btw, what's the big deal about showing ID and documentation? I've had to show my Driver's License and passport for years to confirm my identity. I have nothing to hide, so I hide nothing. I greatly resent ILLEGALS taking advantage of all the services in America that they aren't legally entitled to, not to mention that some of them are criminals. An illegal killed my cousin and critcally injured several others. He was drunk, no DL, no insurance; he hijacked the car at gunpoint. My cousin was 2 wks. away from marriage and had been admitted to Med. School. That didn't happen in Arizona, either. So no, I'm never going to be in favor of ILLEGAL immigration. As Americans, we have the right to know who is coming into this country.

• IrishAndProud | Jul 29, 2010, 02:44 PM EDT

  First, McNamara, no one 'died' and made me 'editor.' I simply voice opinions and say things which you don't personally approve of, and so you respond with silly remarks like that one. I simply asked your for your source -- which you conspicuously failed to mention in your initial post. And now that you've mentioned it...'Voice Education Fund?' That sounds like some federally-funded diversity program endorsed by the NEA (I'm not saying it is; I'm saying that's how it sounds...since the left is notorious for using talk like that). Regardless, it's utterly unreflective of every OTHER poll out there, not to mention the national sentiment and the political atmosphere in the whole country right now, where Democrats are in more dire political straights than they've ever been in modern times -- and perhaps ever, period. It doesn't jive with reality, McNamara. This law that this Clinton judge gutted yesterday has the consistent support of 70% of Arizonans and the American people, who also overwhelmingly want NO amnesty for illegals. And what happened yesterday is just one more nail in the Democratic coffin, this November. They've just shot/hung themselves, yet again.

• IrishAndProud | Jul 29, 2010, 02:36 PM EDT

  And many illegals were already self-deporting from Arizona, before this new law even took effect! So it's a total (and typical) leftist, pro-illegal FARCE to say we 'can't deport all the illegals' because many of them do it on their own when they sense the Americans are waking up to them.

• KansasUSA | Jul 29, 2010, 01:58 PM EDT

  This judge is wrong. If asked, most of the legal residents of this country are required to show legal proof of identity. If we didn't have to spend so much money on fighting the ILLEGAL immigrants to this country, maybe we could redirect some of those funds toward a speedier method of legal citizenship but instead, we give them taxpayer benefits that most of us don't qualify for. Anyone interested go to az.gov and click on Keep Arizona Safe and join the nearly 29,000 that have contributed over 1.3m to fight the federal government. I have.

• irishwxman | Jul 29, 2010, 12:02 PM EDT

  again....you fail to mention, they back it AFTER THE BORDER GET SEALED!!! What part of Sealing the border do you not understand. Of course they welcome a path to citizenship. It is easier to do that than it is to scoop them all up and send them home. But first you must seal the border. Arizona law backers overwhelmingly almost 100% insist on sealing the border first.

• McNamara31 | Jul 29, 2010, 11:17 AM EDT

  irishwxman...I didn't fail to mention it, you failed to read it..key words: Arizona law backers. ****************************************************Here's what I quoted: "Arizona law backers overwhelmingly support path to citizenship."

• irishwxman | Jul 29, 2010, 10:49 AM EDT

  What McNamara fails to mention in this poll is, those same Arizona residents want the border sealed up first, THEN a pathway to citizenship for workers. Bottom line, to stop a sinking boat, you cannot keep bailing the water out until the leak is plugged.

• McNamara31 | Jul 29, 2010, 10:40 AM EDT

  IrishandProud.. First, who died and left you Editor? But here we go... A bipartisan survey by America’s Voice Education Fund and Lake Research Partners and Public Opinion Strategies of registered voters "sought to understand the motivations and sentiments underlying the top line support for Arizona’s tough immigration law." Here is what they found: "Arizona law backers overwhelmingly support path to citizenship: "A whopping eighty-four percent (84%)of Arizona law backers, said they support reform that includes a "pathway to citizenship" for undocumented immigrants – higher than the seventy-eight percent of overall "national voters" in favor of such a program."

• irishwxman | Jul 29, 2010, 09:53 AM EDT

  "Judge's ruling on Arizona immigration law a great one" NOT!!! This was an atrocity and another Obama move against to will of the American people. It's almost as if this guy WANTS to destroy his political career. What else is this clown going to do against the will of the people. Patrick, you do realize that 70% of American's agree with the AZ law? yet you call it a "great decision". What a moron. This decision hurts the people of Arizona, and as the Gov suggests, this judge made it "legal for the federal government not to do their jobs". Enjoy this while you can open border liberal moonbats...the Supreme Court will reverse this decision faster than an illegal jumping the fence.

• McNabb1966 | Jul 29, 2010, 08:07 AM EDT

  @maireadinmelb... You're right about the immigrants, except that this is a discussion about ILLEGAL immigration. Nobody is trying to stop legal immigration. It's a weakness of the open-border proponents that they always have to distort reality. So Judge Bolton, like the rest of the Left has blindly condemned the men and women of Arizona's law enforcement as "racist" by ASSUMING that they will rely on "racial profiling" to enforce the law, even though the law expressly forbids it. If only the folks on the Left were as uncomfortable with their own outrageous bias as they claim to be about the alleged bias of others.

• maireadinmelb | Jul 29, 2010, 04:49 AM EDT

  America like Australia was built on immigration. The fact this webpage exists is evidence of that! Who are you the immigrants and decendents of immigrants to criticise others for wanting to live the so called American Dream?? Well done Justice Bolton!

• IrishAndProud | Jul 28, 2010, 11:01 PM EDT

  MCNamara, you need to cite your source, and not just copy and paste without it. Besides, that's hardly a ringing endorsement of amnesty for illegals -- which by their responses AND actions (like for instance melting down Capitol Hill switchboards at least TWICE now -- under both Bush AND Obama) the American majority do not want. You cannot back this Arizona law to the extent that people do, both in Arizona and nationally, and yet be for amnesty. That doesn't jive.

• McNamara31 | Jul 28, 2010, 08:20 PM EDT

  A June 2010 poll of Arizona law backers overwhelmingly support path to citizenship: "A whopping eighty-four percent (84%)of Arizona law backers, said they support reform that includes a "pathway to citizenship" for undocumented immigrants – higher than the seventy-eight percent of overall "national voters" in favor of such a program."

• IrishAndProud | Jul 28, 2010, 05:50 PM EDT

  Besides, what's the shocker, here? Court challenges and occasional 'bumps' (as Gov. Brewer rightly called this) are part of the picture, when you take on the political establishment in defense of your own state, sovereignty and property -- and are hardly unexpected. The way that some pro-illegals stooges were and are overreacting to this (with virtual verbal orgasms...like our resident pro-illegal Patrick Roberts -- and a few more who will predictably respond to me) shows how utterly near-sighted and short-term they are, in their thinking. This is one battle in a much broader war -- one they are certainly not winning with the huge majority of the American public. The people united can never be defeated (or stopped). This is a hiccup.

• IrishAndProud | Jul 28, 2010, 05:43 PM EDT

  Wrong, Patrick. The judge's ruling on this case is NOT a 'great' one. When you have a state law that merely reflects the federal law which the feds under this guy Obama simply will not enforce (whilst of course they do nothing about so-called 'sanctuary cities' which openly VIOLATE federal law) -- and futher when the vast majority of the American people (not just Arizonans) SUPPORT this law but have the Obama gang and their lackeys along with unelected courts constantly going against them by siding with illegal alien invaders -- that is NOT a 'great' thing in a republic. Besides, this ruling will not stand, anyway. You cannot keep stepping all over the people and ignoring the illegal problem and get away with it, forever. More states will pass such laws as this, and the tide will only dramatically shift all the more against the pro-illegals after today's action. Only a typical (truly delusional, i.e.) Obamanik would preted that with this one single ruling today (which didn't even strike down the entire law, at that) will somehow just make the energized and active American majority just 'go away.' This has only hit the hornet's nest with a baseball bat. It's only stirred things up all the more, and helped to ensure more defeat for the pro-illegals, ultimately. Now, commence with the typical, formula responses (including the personal cheap shots) from the pro-illegal minority. You'll be doing yourself no good, but so what.