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People and Politics by Patrick Roberts

De Valera was the Irish equivalent of Korean dictator Kim Yung Il

Posted on Monday, December 19, 2011 at 05:51 AM

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Pgk86 | Nov 04, 2012, 09:15 PM EST

Hmmm, like our founding fathers? You could make the same argument about anyone. Want an example? Go look up Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin or Andrew Jackson. Check out Nelson Mandella's history.

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christinao't | Jun 26, 2012, 08:31 PM EDT

complete propaganda article... get a clue

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briant11 | Jan 10, 2012, 09:41 PM EST

What nonsense.De Valera was a democratically elected leader,who put to the people a constitution based on democrayic principles they approved.The comparisdn made is inaccurate ,invidious and insulting.

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sirpeter | Dec 28, 2011, 10:35 PM EST

supersurvivor77.If this is therapy for you and it make you feel better.Then i guess all Catholics should understand that.Remember you are a victim.But your stupidity has nothing got to do with abuse.CATHOLICABUSESURVIVORSNI.COM does not help your agenda.It tells me you have hurt people because of been abused.That make you as bad as the abuser.Who have also been abused.You didn't survive.You drowned in your own bitterness.Pity.Either you get that or you don't.Let it go!! Let it go!!Let it go!!

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vincentruane | Dec 23, 2011, 12:31 AM EST

Well thanks Patrick for giving a perfect example of trash journalism. You'll make it into the school books if you keep this up. Comparing Eamon De Valera to an evil communist dictator. You have lost all credibility after this strain of garbage writing.

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sirpeter | Dec 22, 2011, 05:30 PM EST

Naw!!Georgie Boy.Ireland didn't get much aid at all.I'd say the immigrants got hold of most of it.We didn't need it anyway Georgie.I think you could do with a bit of aid to be honest.You're a bit mental Georgie with you fixation on the immigrants.You need some serious counseling for that.We'll all help you with that Georgie don't worry.

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seanomelbourne | Dec 22, 2011, 05:22 PM EST

I'll let you in on a secret cillowen the civil war did not start with the Collins who btw was killed in action.

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peglegmeg | Dec 22, 2011, 04:25 PM EST

Thank you Patrick for this taste of the truth.....Visiting Glasnevin a couple of months ago, I was underwhelmed by his grave, cross and placement...I was overwhelmed by Michael Collins place of honor, the FRESH flowers that covered his grave and the other heroes placement, like Roger Casement......One dead leaf adorned the Devilera's grave, and even it looked uncomfortable......

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seamusryan | Dec 22, 2011, 04:10 PM EST

Virtually every country has an element of the cult of personality when politics kicks in. Ireland has had a series of them. Comparing de Valera to Kim Jong-il, however, is little more than idiotic.

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GeorgeDillon | Dec 22, 2011, 02:13 PM EST

cillowen: Do us a favor. Post your garbage once, not in quadruplicate.

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cillowen | Dec 22, 2011, 11:26 AM EST

I believe Dev was England's Greatest Spy and the accounts given here are but rubbish. The Irish neutrality that served Britain so, was a brilliant hatched move between the troika of DeValera, Churchill and FDR. I also believe Dev set up Michael Collins for the kill and helped trigger the Civil War that had brother fighting brother. Dev's overall primary concern was in securing a homeland for his tribe. He being a lover of Hitler is complete bullcrap - a real bottom of the barrel reach. During WWII footstuff of all kind was flowing to the Saxon occupier as were manpower from every county in ol Erin ferrying back and forth to help the Mother. The natives later would honor near blind Dev with the presidency - the same as they intended doing with Dev's party newcomer Gallagher. Have a great time trying to explain why such benefits accrued to the benevolent Saxons crowd in their time of need. The beat goes on even today -the love and appreciation of knightings bestowed makes em go gaga.

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cillowen | Dec 22, 2011, 11:23 AM EST

I believe Dev was England's Greatest Spy and the account given here is but rubbish. The Irish neutrality that served Britain so, was a brilliant hatched move between the troika of DeValera, Churchill and FDR. I also believe Dev set up Michael Collins for the kill and helped trigger the Civil War that had brother fighting brother. Dev's overall primary concern was in securing a homeland for his tribe. He being a lover of Hitler is complete bullcrap - a real bottom of the barrel reach. During WWII footstuff of all kind was flowing to the Saxon occupier as were manpower from every county in ol Erin ferrying back and forth to help the Mother. The natives later would honor near blind Dev with the presidency - the same as they intended doing with Dev's party newcomer Gallagher. Have a great time trying to explain why such benefits accrued to the benevolent Saxons crowd in their time of need. The beat goes on even today -the love and appreciation of knightings bestowed makes em go gaga.

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cillowen | Dec 22, 2011, 11:21 AM EST

I believe Dev was England's Greatest Spy.The Irish neutrality that served Britain so, was a brilliant hatched move between the troika of DeValera, Churchill and FDR. I also believe Dev set up Michael Collins for the kill and helped trigger the Civil War that had brother fighting brother. Dev's overall primary concern was in securing a homeland for his tribe. He being a lover of Hitler is complete bullcrap - a real bottom of the barrel reach. During WWII footstuff of all kind was flowing to the Saxon occupier as were manpower from every county in ol Erin ferrying back and forth to help the Mother. The natives later would honor near blind Dev with the presidency - the same as they intend doing with Dev's party newcomer Gallagher. Have a great time trying to explain why such benefits accrued to the benevolent Saxons crowd in their time of need. The beat goes on even today -the love and appreciation of knightings bestowed makes em go gaga.

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cillowen | Dec 22, 2011, 11:20 AM EST

I believe Dev was England's Greatest Spy and the account given here is but rubbish. The Irish neutrality that served Britain so, was a brilliant hatched move between the troika of DeValera, Churchill and FDR. I also believe Dev set up Michael Collins for the kill and helped trigger the Civil War that had brother fighting brother. Dev's overall primary concern was in securing a homeland for his tribe. He being a lover of Hitler is complete bullcrap - a real bottom of the barrel reach. During WWII footstuff of all kind was flowing to the Saxon occupier as were manpower from every county in ol Erin ferrying back and forth to help the Mother. The natives later would honor near blind Dev with the presidency - the same as they intend doing with Dev's party newcomer Gallagher. Have a great time trying to explain why such benefits accrued to the benevolent Saxons crowd in their time of need. The beat goes on even today -the love and appreciation of knightings bestowed makes em go gaga.

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GeorgeDillon | Dec 22, 2011, 12:33 AM EST

Our resident buffoon sirpeter is once again showing us his arrant ignorance. First, he denies historical fact. Ireland did benefit substantially from Marshall Aid. No stupidities from sipeter can change historical reality. I mentioned an entire book on the topic in an earlier post, but I guess sirpeter doesn't do books. He's more a wikipedia type. Second, and this is even more imbecilic, he claims that Ireland didn't need aid after WW2. Are you crazy, man? Ireland was subsisting. It had no industries worth talking about, no exports other than cattle, and once emigration recommenced thousands streamed out every month. Its trains ran at a top speed of maybe 15 miles per hour, forced as they were to use turf instead of coal. Back to your roost in the Dunce's Corner, sirpeter, your knowledge of Irish history is shamefully deficient. Did you even get as far as high school?

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