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Bobby Kennedy should be ashamed of himself over his dead wife -- Successful effort to keep her remains from her family was disgusting - VIDEO

Posted on Sunday, May 20, 2012 at 08:17 AM

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MrsT | May 27, 2012, 10:18 PM EDT

I am so happy to see an article that isn't promoting the Kennedy spin! I agree with everything you wrote except Kerry Kennedy wasn't a good friend. She is desperately trying to help her brother minimize his culpability in his wife's death. I believe he is totally responsible as is his mistress.

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chicksooze | May 24, 2012, 03:56 PM EDT

well said crawford - I couldn't agree with you more.

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crawforddayne | May 23, 2012, 08:55 PM EDT

Ms. Callahan, I assure you Patrick Roberts never met any of them nor did any of the other so called bloggers and supposed family friends Second, no one is defending anything but the truth here, which I have yet to see anywhere regarding this terrible tragedy. I'm sorry, but we're you in the church when Mr. Kennedy's gave his remarks about Mary or are you simply regurgitating the completely out of context line the sleazoids in the press are referring to? You seem so confidant in your position and exhibit this air of righteous indignation without even really knowing anything about what truly was happening in this poor women's life. Did you think this was the first time she had tried to do this? Can you speak to any other underlying issues that manifested themselves during the course of her life or relationship with Mr. Kennedy? Do you even understand the concept of mental illness and the effects this has on people who have it? You do know it can be fatal right? Do you know the reasons for divorce and the ultimate need to protect the children? If you do please share this, because I seriously doubt you or anyone else has this information or even a clue to the truth. All you can really speak to is the lies and propaganda generated by people who want to sell newspapers, not the truth. I have yet to see a shred of truth come from these blogs you seem so fond of reading and believing. You know why? Because you'll never see a comment from someone who really knows the family and what the real issues are, because they're more invested in protecting the children and want nothing more than to see them try and live a normal life in the face of this terrible event in their lives. This isn't a pissing match about Kennedy haters and Kennedy lovers, this is about allowing 4 minor children to come to terms with their loss and not initiating more hardship in their lives. Please try and understand this and allow their mother to rest in peace.

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KathyCallahan | May 23, 2012, 04:49 PM EDT

I am well informed by the heart felt stories and observations shared by family and friends of Mary on the public record. Their own experiences are valid and deeply affecting...RFK, Jr also shared his experience of Mary and 16 year marriage. Crawford how do you know for sure that Patrick Roberts and bloggers have not met or come into contact with the deceased or know her closest friends who are entitled to express their feelings here. More of the same flagrant malignant narcissism and acute insensitivity coming from RFK Jr defenders...As if to say it's only RFK Jr's way or the highway for everyone else including doomed lovely Mary. Who Kennedy -very narrowly caricatured for the benefit of himself and maintaining a phony public image. Camelost

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crawforddayne | May 23, 2012, 03:32 PM EDT

The person who should be ashamed of themselves is the author of this article. A person who does not know one thing about the intricacies of this situation, whose only knowledge of anything Kennedy is what he reads in the gossip rags available on line and else where. Not one person here who has made a derogatory comment knows anything about the situation and what this family has been through during this ordeal. Nor does anyone know anything about the state of mind Mrs. Kennedy was in prior to her unfortunate decision to take her own life. To say that Mr. Kennedy was responsible based on spurious information, conjecture and innuendo is nothing short of irresponsible and damaging to not him, but those children. You all should be ashamed of yourselves. Do you not think these children are capable of reading your malicious comments about the only parent they have left? There are reasons why things happen and for people to make judgements and assign blame based on misinformation is truly not doing any service to the memory of this women. Clearly she had problems, clearly she was depressed, clearly she had issues that affected the well being of 4 minor children and clearly any responsible adult can see that and why the children were no longer with their mother at the time of her death. And one can thanks God for that, what would it have been like for one of them to find their mother? What impact would this have had on them going forward in life? I think each and everyone of the people that make derogatory and misinformed comments should take a step back and think about just what they are doing and how this might affect these children and not base their comments on idiotic reports like this. Everyone one of you should be ashamed of yourselfs for participating in this circus of lies.

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KathyCallahan | May 22, 2012, 11:35 PM EDT

Very well said Claire. Fighting to reverse a sleazy annulment and winning is a tremendous victory for Sheila and her children. It's also true there are certain circumstances that render even the most competent, tenacious and powerful woman -utterly helpless and worn down when facing off against a man or organization with legal and financial resources that you cannot ever match...'If only I could be on an even playing field with 'himself': no doubt I would prevail and get the justice and closure that I deserve.' Then you gracefully move on...Being cheated...on, betrayed, played, lied to and abandoned...Is sometimes too much to bare for an honest and trusting faithful women.

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Claire2 | May 22, 2012, 05:36 PM EDT

RFK's self-serving comments at his estranged wife's funeral were totally inappropriate. Better he had not spoken at all. If she were so ill, as Kerry and Bobby are maintaining, why did he put her under further pressure by his various behaviours? He certainly does not sound like someone who "did all he could" for his tormented wife!! Too bad she did not seek the advice of his brother, Joseph's, first wife, Sheila Rauch Kennedy. THERE is a woman who stood up to the might of the Kennedys and that of the Catholic Church - when Joseph got an annullment without her knowledge! She appealed to the Vatican, and after TEN years, the decision was reversed. She also wrote a book in which she detailed the haranguing she received from Joe. He told her that "Kennedy women don't talk". But, she was made of stern material and fought back against the might of the Kennedys - and won. It seems like Mary K. was subjected to too many pressures and was living in fear of losing her children and her home. She was also in financial trouble, owing American Express $32,000, even though Bobby allegedly made $44million last year! Flaunting his new girlfriend in public before he was even divorced, knowing the fragile condition of his wife, was the height of insensitivity and cruelty. Just ONE of those many pressures which she had to endure, might have been enough to drive any woman over the edge. My sympathies go to MK's children and siblings, but not to Bobby. Hope Mary is finally at peace.

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dhaitzin | May 22, 2012, 02:59 PM EDT

Maybe it IS our business. Maybe when someone else faces these underhanded tactics used by spouses and lawyers,it serves as an example for someone to try to keep going and counteract the vicious innuendos by fighting and not giving up in defeat. Maybe Mary couldnt take it any more and was overwhelmed, but maybe the lesson is to fight back and not allow someone who is powerful to define you. I can understand her feelings of helplessness, I was married for nearly 30 years and gave up my own profession to be a wife and mother as Mary did. Then to be thrown on the scrap heap and have my spouse circulate rumours which were gossip. Believe me there is a tremendous feeling in ones soul of betrayal. I understood that a marriage can end and that may not be the fault of only one partner, but when you have given your life to your family and you are suddenly portrayed as " person unfit and lacking control" it cuts deeply in to ones heart. I hope other women will take a lesson from this and refuse to be defined by their spouse and know there is a life again even after such betrayal. On a positive note, the lessons I have learned have made me a better human being and I no longer hold animosity to ny ex spouse. There is life after such an experience and perhaps that is why we should discuss this. To prevent another tragic death.

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jamieLM | May 22, 2012, 11:17 AM EDT

Mr. Roberts, you're being judgmental when you probably don't know any of the family members personally, the circumstances that brought about the decisions that were made, and what really went on in the home. This is none of our business and wouldn't be in the media at all if it hadn't involved a famous family. Let Mary R.I.P. and the rest of the family grieve and move forward privately.

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ambidexter | May 22, 2012, 10:28 AM EDT

He is her husband and if not him then Her son aged 18 is next of Kin. She is with her family. Are her children not her family because their name is Kennedy? What a disgusting article this is.

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dhaitzin | May 22, 2012, 12:36 AM EDT

To hjolley Check the records, last one was 5/10. Its a divorce strategy used by lawyers. He has NO rights to bury a woman he left 4 years ago and who he was trying to destroy. She was not his property although perhaps thats where the Kennedys have a problem. They do think their wives are property.

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hjolley | May 21, 2012, 11:31 PM EDT

To dhaitzin Do you even personally know anyone involved here? He "sent restraining orders ad infinitum," and other accusations sounds ridiculous. Let the man who knew the woman bury her as best he can,for God's sake.

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bonjouryall | May 21, 2012, 11:15 PM EDT

To OldMariner-yes, the Church has changed as to suicides. They now regard them as sick mentally and there is a mass, at least in the US. In a similar vein, formerly, certain babies could not be buried on consecrated ground if they had not been baptised before their death. At an old church in France, I saw the small graves of the babies buried in the rear of the church. I could read the French written on one of the stones. It read "We have hope for you". Perhaps equally fitting here too.

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chicksooze | May 21, 2012, 10:28 PM EDT

Alcoholism and depression don't start suddenly. She had a responsibility to her children first and foremost. Men abandon their wives every day, it doesn't mean they turn into alcoholics or sink into depression, get real bythebay, your statement is just ignorant.

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Bythebay | May 21, 2012, 08:23 PM EDT

Mary Richardson Kennedy's alcoholism and depression started when Robert Kennedy Jr. abandoned her. The Kennedys very cleverly have used it to their own ends to villify her. It's a strategy they're very effective at and has served them well. They never accept responsibility for their bad deeds.

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