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Bill O'Reilly is right; Glenn Beck crowd numbers will be small in D.C.

Posted on Saturday, August 28, 2010 at 06:16 AM
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Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly apparently have a bet today on the size of Beck's 'Restoring Honor' rally at the Lincoln Memorial in Washington D.C.

O'Reilly thinks the total will not top 40,000 while Beck is said to believe it could be 300,000.

I'm with O'Reilly on this one.

it is notoriously difficult to estimate crowds, which is why the park police in Washington no longer do it.

So expect plenty of hyperbole on both sides as to actual numbers.

But 300,000, even with Sarah Palin speaking, sounds like a very long shot.

But I think Bill O'Reilly has probably got it about right.

Beck's problem is that his followers are almost all angry white men and women.

They are ordinary people who feel left out of the current political system and that their voices are not heard.

Beck has done a spectacular job of reaching them through Fox News.

But he has done so in part by demonizing other groups, Hispanics in particular on immigration issues.

Such tactics will make lots of people uncomfortable and will impose a cap on the numbers of people who wiil follow him.

His ratings have leveled off after spectacular growth which is telling in itself.
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He lacks O'Reilly's ability to reach more into the mainstream.

Which is why I think his numbers will be no big deal today.

Time will tell.


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McNamara31 | Sep 04, 2010, 10:49 AM EDT
pflynn70..."liberal dummies who got us into this mess" Really?...That's the first time I ever heard Bush/Cheney called liberal dummies, because that's who "factually" sent us into Iraq, and then on to the brink of economic collapse. And, for the "most" part, Bush/Cheney were “chicken hawks” (one differed, one a “no show” reservist) not like yourself, or my "dem" husband, brother and father who also served this country.

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pflynn70 | Sep 03, 2010, 01:40 PM EDT
How about close or over 500,000? Wishful thinking from liberal dummies are what got us into this mess. Enjoy the freedom vet's like myself have brought to our country and see what would happen if we let muslims completely run our country.All you have to do is look at London, the bNetherlands and see the distruction they bring. Maybe a stint in a muslim country for you and the family would open your eyes. p/s maybe you should buy you wife a "burka".

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blst4m4ev | Sep 03, 2010, 09:36 AM EDT
Yes, if the majority supporting this cause are white men and women, then there won't be a great showing because these people are the few left in the US who actually work and support the US by paying taxes. They can't just take off work on a whim to go to DC. They would like to keep their jobs. I bet the real number who support this cause is in the millions, but they won't show that at the cause, because they need their jobs, while the illegal aliens and the people on welfare who don't pay taxes are free to come and go as they please and show their numbers at a cause they can attend because they have no jobs.

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maloney | Sep 02, 2010, 06:34 PM EDT
Mc31...your record seems to be stuck. pall parret how many times are you going to say the same thing. Getting senile it seems. NBC said 300,000 yes NBC get over it. you lose

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hancock | Sep 02, 2010, 06:25 PM EDT
The only person who believes CBS is Mac himself.

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McNamara31 | Sep 02, 2010, 05:26 PM EDT
Follow up ....."CBS News commissioned the company AirPhotosLive.com to estimate the size of the rally. Using aerial pictures taken at what it deemed the height of the rally, AirPhotosLive.com said 87,000 people attended the event. The margin of error offered by AirPhotosLive.com was plus or minus 9,000 people." This reprsents .ooo2% of Americans. The only group/person saying 300,000 to 500,000 was Beck himself.

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MaryM232 | Sep 01, 2010, 11:14 AM EDT
Not surprisingly, I see no follow up to this article. The attendance has been estimated at between 300,000 500,000 Americans, and there were black and brown US citizens in the crowd. They were happy, friendly, and decent US citizens, the same people who are representative of the US citizenry who have reached out and helped others around the world during times of crisis. They didn't leave even one scrap of paper on the ground either, unlike the mess left behind for others to clean up after the democrat Obama's lefty crowd at his inauguration. I thought democrats "cared" about the environment? What anyone who watched the coverage saw, was a large group of people who were representative of the US as a whole.

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Matoig21 | Sep 01, 2010, 11:00 AM EDT
Well OReilly was wrong. Glenn Becks crowd was well over 300,000 thousand

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IrishAndProud | Aug 31, 2010, 11:04 PM EDT
Of course by the same formula, you could break down any LIBERAL crowd's event in D.C. and (assuming THEIR crowd numbers are inherently bigger) think they're a majority in the USA...something no poll currently shows or has ever shown. Gallup has self-described libs at only 21% of the U.S. populace. So, with such an apparent paradox, there's a pretty natural conclusion: the great silent majority, as conservatives have been called, are simply too busy going about their lives to attend marches in D.C. to the same measure that their more idle (and hand-out supported) brethren across the aisle do. But going by any polls or trends, conservatives do indeed intend to make their presence known, in the same way they usually do: at the ballot box.

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hancock | Aug 31, 2010, 09:13 PM EDT
I don't buy CBS estimate, and don't understand your breakdown by population. The first time I ever seen anybody do it. I guess you just hate Beck.

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McNamara31 | Aug 31, 2010, 08:28 PM EDT
Hancock...its basic Math Population of American in 2010, (305,689,000) divided by the people who showed up on "the most beautiful day Washington has had this year" (87,000) = a mere .0002% of Americans (and D.C.tourists combined)

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hancock | Aug 31, 2010, 05:25 PM EDT
No, because I figure you're drunk for clinging to your .0002 figure. Now will our lying eyes now be able to trump CBS news?

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maloney | Aug 31, 2010, 04:27 PM EDT
mc-31... I'm fully aware of the ownership of Fox. It all comes down to one thing, the TRUTH. I disagree with Beck on many things. No matter how you slice it, both political parties are not to be trusted. Sad to say I'll take the greedy GOP over the lying marxist dems every day of the year. The last thing I want is the USA to become, say, any country in europe.

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McNamara31 | Aug 31, 2010, 04:09 PM EDT
Hancock... "Mac go back to the pub?"... "you Irish?" A bit stereotypical, wouldn't you say?

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hancock | Aug 31, 2010, 03:48 PM EDT
Mac go back to the pub. I don't rely on any news organizatuion and am certainly not obseesed with them as many of you Irish seem to be.

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