Anti-immigrant surge likely as Irish economy deteriorates -- Resentment of foreign doctors and workers tip of the iceberg
By: Patrick Roberts | Published Monday, April 9, 2012, 11:30 AM | Updated Monday, April 9, 2012, 11:30 AM
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| Immigrants in Ireland Credit: Irish Star |
I predict Ireland is set for an anti-immigrant surge given the deteriorating economic situation in the country.
I can’t count the number of times the issue of immigrants and taking Irish jobs has arisen in conversations during recent trips over there.
Ironically it begins in the hospitals where there have been a number of recent high-profile cases involving foreign doctors being charged with negligence and in some cases even sexual assault of patients.
The influx of foreign doctors is, ironically, a clear sign of the Irish brain drain. Australia, Canada and other countries are snapping up Irish medical graduates who have cost the Irish taxpayers tens of millions to educate.
In order to fill the gap foreign graduates often from pretty exotic countries have been brought in.
While the vast majority is highly qualified it is also clear some are not given the number of incidents that have been reported.
It is an utter paradox that those most recently qualified leave for better careers abroad. 76,000 people left Ireland in the year to April 2011, the equivalent of one million Canadians leaving their country. It is an incredible figure.
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“We are losing our young, our best and brightest,” said David Monahan (48), the Dublin artist whose photographs of emigrants leaving have caught the sad moments.
“It’s affecting our future economy, but also our sense of community,” he told the
Toronto Star recently.
In many communities where immigrants were previously welcomed there are now clear signs of strain.
Some people assume that the “foreigners” are ripping off Ireland’s still generous social welfare system. With local Irish being crippled with taxes to pay off bankrupt banks, the anti immigrant sentiment seems a convenient scapegoat.
Time will tell if the anti immigrant lobby will grow but my anecdotal belief is that it will. I would not be surprised to see some Le Pen type political party take hold in Ireland if the economy continues to deteriorate.
Alas, that is the price for frustrated change and economic gloom.
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Switch to the desktop site to post a comment.DanOLoingsigh | Apr 20, 2012, 02:49 PM EDT
ILN - A Racist would be someone who took exception to the actions of a person of ethnically different origin, where he would accept the same actions taken by 'one of his own'...no need to excuse bad behaviour from whatever source...btw is quoting Winston Churchill politically correct?
DanOLoingsigh | Apr 20, 2012, 01:29 PM EDT
IrelandNorth - You are confusing the island and the State - the portion that became independent is now 'post - independent' - also you are confusing the borders policy of the EU - only countries that signed up to 'Schengen' operate 'Open Borders', in that no passport controls are made at border crossings. Neither UK or RoI are part of Schengen...the lack of passport controls between the two parts of Ireland (the island) derives from the CTA (Common Travel Area) agreement between them, which predates EU membership - the adoption of the Fiscal Union in 1993 meant Customs (as opposed to Immigration)frontiers were no longer needed - I do hope this helps...
IrelandNorth | Apr 20, 2012, 06:17 AM EDT
DanOLoingsigh (DOL)! Ireland as a whole isn't independent. 'Post-independent Ireland' (sic) is therefore a Platonic terminological inexactitude. If the European Union (EU) operates an open borders policy - as Bythebay (BTB) quite rightly states, why does s/he persist in referring to a consequently non longer existent border between a 3.3 province (26 county) Republic of Ireland, and a 2.3 (6 county) neo-provincial statelet of Northern Ireland? Definition of "racism/-t" in contemporary Ireland, as coined by their new Church of Political Correctness: (a) Verb - any Irish citizen who takes exception to being hassled by a non-national private paramilitary policeman contracted by CIE/IrishRail using taxpayers money. (b) Any Irish citizen who resents being jostled by competitive foreign language students of profitable private language colleges (without library facilities?) competing for public library facilities funded by Irish tax payers. 'Racist' noun - working class person who despairs at ever being properly understood by middle-class fellow citizens/nationals seemingly incapable of understanding his socio-economic circumstances.
DanOLoingsigh | Apr 16, 2012, 11:56 AM EDT
Countries of origin where over 10,000 resident were in Ireland at 2006 Census - China, Germany, Latvia, Lithuania, Nigeria, Poland , UK, USA (source Central Statistics Office Ireland 2006 Census) 2011 Census - Largest increases since 2006 Census - Romanians (up 110%), Indians (up 91%), Polish (up 83%), Lithuanians (up 40%) and Latvians (up 43%).
DanOLoingsigh | Apr 16, 2012, 11:51 AM EDT
George – tell me how many stamps in your passport for these countries? Afghanistan, Uzbekistan, Iraq, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Bosnia, Kosovo, Montenegro, Serbia, Hungary…have you watched the sunset along the Khyber Pass? Drank a PIVO in Belgrade, or a beer in Amman, or a coke in Baghdad…
DanOLoingsigh | Apr 16, 2012, 11:41 AM EDT
Black minority ethnic (BME) - A term used to describe people from minority groups, particularly those who are viewed as having suffered racism or are in the minority because of their skin colour and/or ethnicity.
GeorgeDillon | Apr 15, 2012, 01:07 PM EDT
More abuse and nonsense from oloingsigh. "Little Irelander"? You stupid fool, I have traveled more in one year than you'll travel in a lifetime, and I have forgotten more languages than you'll ever learn. And that includes Irish, a language you hypocritically use in your ID. In fact it is you and the Mad Mass Immigrationists who are the Little Irelanders. I am always struck in Ireland by the fact that it is the people who have traveled widely, and by that I don't mean a week on the Costa del Sol or a drunken trip to an English soccer game, it is those who have traveled widely who most strongly oppose Mass Immigration. That's because they see how vulnerable a culture and small nation is to globalization. People like me don't want to see Tahiti taken over by migrants, nor Guam, nor Palestine, nor Ireland. We oppose the amorphous conformity that International Capitalism has decreed as the goal of the 21st century. You're just a stooge for big business, but I doubt if you get any of the economic benefits. Your geography rates a D minus, you seem to think that India, Pakistan, China etc are in the EU--that's why the streets of Dublin are flooded with people from such places. As to your knowledge of Irish history--give yourself a big fat F grade. WW2 ended in 1945. Mad Mass Immigration--the kind that is occurring in Ireland now--only commenced about 2000. 55 years of Irish history, and you know nothing of it. Idiot Mass Immigrationists like Olooney live in an intellectual vacuum. And how about stopping the charade of using the Gaelic ID--you want to see an amorphous globalized Ireland that will kill all vestiges of Gaelic culture. And by the way, what is BME in your cult language? Those of us outside the Mass Immigrationist cult don't understand your nonsense.
DanOLoingsigh | Apr 14, 2012, 03:15 AM EDT
Dillon and his band of ‘Little Irelanders’ bemoan the fact that Ireland opted to join the EEC/EU, which meant signing up to a range of more liberal policies…including on immigration. Post-independent Ireland had virtually no inward immigration, save a few Nazi’s post war. Sure, a grand place to come back to for a few weeks, preserved in aspic as it was. Then, suddenly, Ireland ‘took off’. There were jobs aplenty, and naturally, others came in…most came legally…but as the country had never had much immigration before, the controls were virtually non-existent, so it was easy for some illegals to get in too. Dillon and Co. can’t differentiate between the legal, entitled many, and the illegal few…if they’re ‘not like us’ then they’re not welcome.
DanOLoingsigh | Apr 14, 2012, 03:02 AM EDT
‘We regret that we are unable to offer ’waiting staff’ jobs to EU citizens in this restaurant. This is because most of our clientele are ‘second and third generation Irish-Americans’, who insist on being served by staff with Irish accents only. Jobs in our kitchen may be available, on the strict understanding that such staff MUST NOT engage in any conversation with our customers. We hope potential EU employees will understand our employment policies, and remember to be seen and not heard. For similar reasons, we are unable to offer any jobs whatsoever to persons of BME heritage, with or without Irish citizenship.’
DanOLoingsigh | Apr 13, 2012, 09:03 PM EDT
Dillon, while your "principled" draft-dodging Daddy was doing the shameful and dishonest things that one must do to avoid serving his country, hundreds of thousands of - to you and your Daddy, less principled - young Americans were slogging through the jungles and rice-paddies olf Vietnam, trying to stay alive and carry out their mission as best they could. More than fifty eight thousand of these less principled young Americans died in the service of their country while your more principled draft-dodging Daddy was feeling all smug and superior to the poor grunts who went to war. But in going to war, and risking their lives day in, day out, these young men proved something important to themselves, that they could look themselves in the eye in the bathroom mirror and know that they had measured up, something that your draft-dodging Daddy could never do, nor would his son.
GeorgeDillon | Apr 13, 2012, 11:38 AM EDT
What a disgraceful comparison by swinefood. He likens Vietnam, a country that was the victim of French and US imperialism, to Japan and Nazi Germany. Outrageous racism, but a staple from this source. As to my father, yes, I honor his memory for many things. And one of these was that he was able to think for himself. He saw that it was wrong to attack a small nation that we had no quarrel with. Years after the war had ended I can remember how he loved to sing Country Joe's great anti-war anthem: "What are we fighting for ? Don't ask me, I don't give a damn,--- Next stop is Vietnam."
GeorgeDillon | Apr 12, 2012, 09:34 PM EDT
Dillon's rant below is standard fare, the usual epithets and insult, showing the usual lack of imagination. What is new is his remarkable - and proud - statement that his late and principled father was a draft dodger during the Vietnam War - a war in which I served as a combat infantryman, and was recently accused by Dillon of murdering women and children in that tragic misadventure. Of course there were many "principled" fellows who avoided the draft at that time - and many have come forward since to admit that they didn't care a damn about the morality of the war, they just didn't want to risk their precious lives. At the American Embassy in Dublin I was required to sign a paper agreeing to serve in the armed forces of the U.S., if called upon. In short order I was called upon. I could easily have returned to Ireland, or gone to Canada or England. I chose to stay - and was drafted. I put my life on hold for the duration, not knowing if I would ever see Ireland or my family again. Some would say that this was principle. A few might say it was brave. What Dillon says is irrelevant. He says that his father would not fight a country "he knew nothing about." Millions of young Americans fought Nazi Germany and Japan, counties they knew nothing about. Two and a half million youing Americans served in Vietnam - America's first teenage war - a country they knew nothing about. Soldiers do not have the luxury of choosing the war they will fight. In Dillon's twisted mind there are no boundaries, no sense of honor or decency or shame.
Curitiba | Apr 12, 2012, 05:37 PM EDT
LaoiseRyan-"Awoken, get it into your thick head, there is no such place in the 1st world that is a monoculture!" Yes there is. Japan and South Korea.
timbobdennehy | Apr 12, 2012, 03:21 PM EDT
Send the culture vultures away since,multiculturalism is so enlightening for them.they are usually well to do people. European Immigrants have only improved timekeeping and work Habits,good for employer,bad for employee.As for the asylum seekers,put them on a commerce course and ship them back over the water. I will have to get another can of boot polish in order to have my car insurance paid for me.
timbobdennehy | Apr 12, 2012, 03:17 PM EDT
Send the culture vultures away since,multiculturalism is so enlightening for them.they are usually well to do people. European Immigrants have only improved timekeeping and work Habits,good for employer,bad for employee.As for the asylum seekers,put them on a commerce course and ship them back over the water. I will have to get another can of boot polish in order to have my car insurance paid for me.
timbobdennehy | Apr 12, 2012, 03:13 PM EDT
Send the culture vultures away since,multiculturism is so enlightening for them.they are usually well to do people. European Immigrants have only improved timekeeping and work Habits,good for employer,bad for employee.As for the asylum seekers,put them on a commerce course and ship them back over the water. I will have to get another can of boot polish in order to have my car insurance paid for me.
ciaradexy | Apr 12, 2012, 02:25 PM EDT
Dillon, Your family are settlers in another country! Your family are the same as anyone who moves here from another country. Awoken, no wonder you don't post on the journal, you cant spell! You're an illiterate freak show! Thank feck for those migrants who come over to find work, they do the jobs you're too retarded to do! Learn the difference between 'you're' and 'your'. Throw the odd full stop into your posts too, you gimp. I can't believe my taxes go to support people like you. Oh the irony!
GeorgeDillon | Apr 12, 2012, 02:03 PM EDT
Awoken: You should know that ciaradex and laoise ryan are the same person. Two IDs, one garbage can. The Irish people, despite the lies of ciararyan/murphy, have NEVER given their approval for the Mass Settlement of their country by foreigners. I don't care how many of ciararyanolongsighswinefood there are because you're right, they are just useful idiots for the Irish ruling class, they swallow the swill that the system feeds them. This is a class that has always hated Irish nationality. Even now, they are pumping money out of Ireland and into the German banks. Irish workers are picking up the tab. As to swinefood, this great pseudo fan of multiculturalism has admitted that he joined in an attack on a foreign country (Vietnam). I could accept that he was a victim of circumstances, but he has never expressed any remorse here for the disgraceful actions of his youth. What reparations have you made to Vietnam and Cambodia, you lousy warmonger swinefood? Unlike swinefood my own late father never signed on to attacking an Asian country he knew nothing about. He took steps to avoid the draft. My father was a man of principle, swinefood is a hypocritical jerk.
awoken32 | Apr 12, 2012, 01:44 PM EDT
@ciaradexy,lol oh sorry i dont post on the journal,its pure trndy isnt it? lol,i wouldnt waste my time,sure i barley waste in on this site,not like somebody i know,(hint anti irsih),listen ciara your so far up your own arse you cant smell the brown,your a disgrace to the irish,your a brainwashed brain dead sheep,you havent got a clue about the real world,you beleive everything that the system wants you to beleive,your not a free thinker whatsoever,you ignorant to the core,you would varnish the horse of troy,enough said to the anti irish traitor
LaoiseRyan | Apr 12, 2012, 12:50 PM EDT
Bythebay, Irelands immigration policy is the same as the UKs. George, no one ever in the entire world who is pro-anything marches for it! People march when they are ANTI- something so show me the anti-immigration websites set up by people who will show their faces unlike the racists on here who hide their identity. Show me the political leaders who are setting up parties in opposition to the current immigration policies. If youre entitled to an Irish passport then you CAN live here. If you are from outside the EU and get a job offer here then you CAN come here legally and work. I know several Americans working and living in Mayo & Cork. Tom, I take your point and I do actually get Georges but his vulgarity and the vile way he puts his points across are disgusting. he needs to spend more time focusing on his own country rather than mine. The Irish language will never be a majority language. It never was going to be either regardless of migration but it will never die out completely. People also need to remember that this article is an Americans OPINION and not whats actually happening.
LaoiseRyan | Apr 12, 2012, 11:36 AM EDT
LaoiseRyan, ciaradexy and DanOLoingsigh, generally, I agree with your position on emigration/immigration. It is enlightened, humane and reflects the reality of the world we live in. Dillon's world view and attitudes are mostly repugnant to me, in part because of the abusive and insulting manner in which they are presented. Yet, I do believe he makes an argument here that has merit - but, as usual, overblown and exaggerated. The Irish Republic is a small island nation with one of the oldest and, arguably, purest languages and cultures in Europe. Its isolation for millennia in the North Atlantic gave rise to this unique national character. I believe that insofar as possible it is the responsibility of the government to preserve this heritage. This does not mean closing the door on immigration - for, God knows, a little new blood, coupled with valuable and needed skills, would benefit the country. What is needed is a rational and coherent immigration policy rather than the 'come one, come all' that was the outgrowth of the Celtic Tiger period. I accept without argument that immigration was the fundamental driving force of American exceptionalism, that which made the U.S. the world's economic collossus - for this success native Americans paid a terrible price. It may well be that in this century we will witness the inexorable destruction of many cultures and the emergence of, to me, a depressing sameness. Perhaps this is an age thing. And, finally, a reality check: The 2011 Irish census shows the Irish population to be ..... overwhelmingly native Irish, close to 90%.
GeorgeDillon | Apr 12, 2012, 11:24 AM EDT
Laoisedexy: "Countries such as the US etc.have welcomed the Irish to their shores". You don't seem to know that Americans have no right to immigrate to Ireland, regardless of how many generations connection with Ireland they can show, or how much of that country's history and language they know (usually far more than the Irish know). So your dumb attempt to establish reciprocity is a flop. When the young Irish Argentines tried to go to Ireland a few years back to escape the collapse of their country's economy, maybe a decade ago, the Irish government told them to F*** Off back to Argentina, even though Argentina had accepted the ancestors of these people when Ireland gave them nothing but poverty and oppression. That's reciprocity Irish style. And where'e the Irish tradition of emigrating to Pakistan, Russia, Poland, Phillipines etc? Those are some of the countries that are pumping people into Ireland. Where's the reciprocity? SO cut out the nonsense. And you still haven't answered my question--"Where are all the pro Mass Immigration demonstrations in Ireland?"
LaoiseRyan | Apr 12, 2012, 10:32 AM EDT
Ok, so George, we hired people from outside of Ireland. Thats what happens all over the world. People came here legally so they are doing nothing wrong. No Irish people have protested against these people or the welfare payments to some kids who are outside the state. No Irish people have set up political parties with a view to closing the door to migrants. Countries such as the US, UK, Australia, New Zealand among others have welcomed the Irish to their shores so why do yo think it would be fair of us to close the doors to others? Is that not a bit hypocritical? Are you Native American? Should we tell all those who migrated in the past from Ireland that they now much leave their homes and move back to Ireland? Why shouldn't we educate the children of migrants? I have never ever heard an Irish person say 'Id really love the job of chambermaid or waitress but all the foreigners have those jobs'. Should we deport all Irish from other countries?
GeorgeDillon | Apr 12, 2012, 09:30 AM EDT
LaoiseDexy--Where are all the pro Mass Immigration demonstrations in Ireland? If an Irish political party ten years had gone to the people saying "Our policy is to import huge numbers of foreigners into our country over the next ten years. Many of these foreigners will take jobs that Irish people would otherwise have had. Hundreds of thousands of Irish will be unemployed or forced to emigrate, but we'll still import foreign migrants. We will educate the children of these foreign migrants for free, we will give these migrants subsidies of hundreds of euros for every child they have, even if those children have never been to Ireland. We'll give these migrants free health care, and pay them lifelong benefits if they are not working, even if they don't live in Ireland and just fly in occasionally. We'll even arrive at a stage where one prisoner in three in Irish jails will be a foreigner. It'll be great." Tell us, laoise dexy, how many votes would have gone to a party running on that platform? And how many of the Mass Immigrationist Irish political parties even now have the honesty to put that in their platform?
ciaradexy | Apr 12, 2012, 09:15 AM EDT
Awoken, Ive noticed you dont post your opinions on immigration on forums such as thejournal .ie which is an irish website. You like to do it all anonymously on this website like all the faceless cowards,racists and keyboard warriors.
LaoiseRyan | Apr 12, 2012, 09:02 AM EDT
Awoken, get it into your thick head, there is no such place in the 1st world that is a monoculture! Wake up! Where are all the anti migration protests, websites and politicians? There are none so why dont you get out there and form your own? Oh I know why you wont, because youre all mouth! Either put up or shut up!
ciaradexy | Apr 12, 2012, 08:56 AM EDT
GeorgieDillon,''As one man said to me "Just what benefits did the immigrants bring to Ireland?" What did immigrants bring to the US other than murdering the natives? The Irish are not being murdered by migrants coming here.
IrelandNorth | Apr 12, 2012, 08:04 AM EDT
God bless multiculturalism! As a politically-correct citizen of a petit-bourgeois state, I can now enjoy being harassed by paramilitary-esque, neo-fascist, proto-totalitarian contract security firms (STT), who specialise in hiring beefy/bulky former Serbo-Croats military mercenaries to patrol Connolly/Heuston Railway Stations in Dublin. Wow! How contract law can undermine civil liberties. And thanks to CIE (Ireland's transport holding company) and Irish Rail for the shortsightedness of using Irish taxpayers subsidies to do so. Thanks for the peculiar prvilege guys. Think I could do without it though, not lease as a onetime military security man myself, in a previous occupational incarnation.
BrianO | Apr 12, 2012, 03:46 AM EDT
I want to be an Irish citizen where do i fake it?
esatdigiwank | Apr 12, 2012, 02:01 AM EDT
Bythebay, I did not post here re. the total absence of immigration security on the Republic-North international frontier, to indulge in small talk about the train service splendid though it is. Please do not be so flippant about the issue I have raised. As you yourself have revealed to IC, "no there are no manned spots on the Northern Ireland - Ireland border any longer". There is NOBODY patrolling the border to detect or filter ILLEGALS.
mike4819 | Apr 11, 2012, 05:25 PM EDT
PatriciaMarya...And who are you being had by?? ....Were you one of the speakers at 'occupy Wall Street??? Nah, on second thought, I guess not.Anyway,I thought everyone knew by now who the 'Great Alinsky' was, But Again, I guess not. When Belgians and French people have 'No Go' ares in their own freakin countries...When Young Irish People HAVE to emmigrate To find work, while Immigrants are being welcomed in and given aid, Well, Who is really being had!! Geeez, ya don't even need Alinsky's fine honed tactics... A little media manipulation...A little white guilt, and presto they give their country away, to 'Gimme-Grants'! UN-freakin-believable!
mike4819 | Apr 11, 2012, 05:13 PM EDT
TomSwinford... You're entirely welcome Tom, Now For Heaven's sake STAY AWAKE and stop being a dullard! Whoa, hold on a second..Why, you were being sarcastic, weren'you...You rascal! Tommy, to believe that everything that happens in life is part of a conspiracy is a bit silly, But it's equally silly to keep your head in the sand. Like Ole' FDR (Roosevelt) said " Nothing in politics happens by accident..." And he was someone who would have known. Do you really think that the cultural destruction of Europe just Wellll..'kinda just happened'??? PULEASE!
DanOLoingsigh | Apr 11, 2012, 04:03 PM EDT
Georgia - No I don't back Mass Immigration...but I do back equality and respect for citizens or legal migrants...no matter what accent they have...most IT companies and others need foreign staff, as well as locals, for the right skill-set...labelling them all as 'benefit cheats' plays into the hands of xenophobes...the Nazis used similar tactics to demonise the jews...learn from history, don't risk repeating it!!!!
GeorgeDillon | Apr 11, 2012, 03:07 PM EDT
More logorrhea from Loingsigh. Racist dopes like him try to stifle debate on Mass Immigration. In Ireland they've had some success--none of the TV or radio channels ever gives time to the (majority) view, which opposes unlimited settlement of Ireland by foreign migrants. The parliament over there has not had one minute of debate on immigration policy in the dozen or years that migrants have been streaming en masse into Ireland. That's the way that racists and government stooges like Loingsig like it. However, as can be seen from the posters here, and of course from visiting with Irish people, there is increasing anger at the mad Mass Immigration policy which racist fools like logorrhea loinsigh back. As one man said to me "Just what benefits did the immigrants bring to Ireland?" To which I replied "They didn't bring benefits, sir, they get benefits, and you're paying for them!" I know that discussion of this topic is heavily censored in Ireland, but no piece of racist garbage is going to censor me!
DanOLoingsigh | Apr 11, 2012, 02:42 PM EDT
Hey George D...maybe you can save Erinlady from having to meet those with 'UnIrish accents' (they may be Irish citizens, by the way, but will still sound foreign)...here's how, dig out that old Brown suit of yours, and as you travel the ould country, just paint a big five-pointed (EU) star on any business where the hated foreigners work...when you've sorted that, find out where they worship, and do the same...then you and Erinlady can be sure of ethnic purity on your visit...
Springfield9 | Apr 11, 2012, 09:44 AM EDT
Irealnd has been commiting ethnic suicide for 15 years. Wake up!
awoken32 | Apr 11, 2012, 09:33 AM EDT
its only natural that my fellow brothers an sisters do not want our country destroyed,racism has nothing got to do with it at all,the people of ireland or any other native people deserve their culture to be respected an not multiculted,lets get real here,multiculture does not and has not worked,thats an undenyable fact,it is done without mandate,an it is done to destroy cultural identidy,ireland needs a REAL patriotic party to stand up for its people,or we will have a patriotic paramilitary party,we are not gonna just lie down an die for so-called political correctness/wrongness,our island has never been multicultural an it never will be,this is ireland home to the irish people,an thats the proper way,an we should always preserve that,its not africa asia or china,its ireland
esatdigiwank | Apr 11, 2012, 08:41 AM EDT
Seanmor brings up the matter of the artificial border. I must query if that border is manned by immigration officials or police at Any of its crossings. I've taken the train from Dublin to Belfast and back several occasions and have never seen any such personnel. Can someone clarify this apparent if worrying laxness in Irish land-border security, put me right, buíochas.
Seanmor | Apr 11, 2012, 12:20 AM EDT
Its about time Irish citizens at both sides of the artificial border placed themselves ahead of foreigners. About four years ago the Irish state was paying €400 million a year to immigrants -legal and illegal- on the dole, and in many cases foreigners were given hiring preference over better qualified natives. I wonder how many Irish people who attended the Easter commerations of the 1916 rising heeded the phrase in the Proclamation that says, "The people of Ireland have the right to the ownership of Ireland". It doesn't state that Arabs, Indians and Africans may rightfully claim Irish ownership at the expence of the country's natives.
Seanmor | Apr 10, 2012, 09:45 PM EDT
mike4819, a cara, God bless you for opening my eyes. What a dullard I've been. Now I can see this monstrous global conspiracy. Now I know we never landed on the moon. Now I know who really killed Kennedy and now I know for sure that the CIA was behind 911. Thank you, thank you for your unique insights and brilliant deductions. Bravo!
PatriciaMarya | Apr 10, 2012, 09:27 PM EDT
Thought: if Ireland underwrites its medical students and they don't honor their commitment to fulfill their terms of service - simple: claw back the money that was spent on their medical degrees WITH INTEREST! If they still insist on emigrating, no problem - the new country must be ready to pay their bounty before these new doctors are allowed to leave. If the new country wants them, great - Ireland gets paid back with interest. If not, then Ireland has to stop underwriting their doctors' education. Interesting: at Columbia University's Dental school, I was treated by a terrific dental student who was completing his work and was getting ready to return to his country of birth to serve his fellow countrymen in Berlin. Nice to see such loyalty. Too bad Ireland doesn't seem to breed that sort of citizen. Perhaps that should be the way to measure each other in the Old Sod: what kind of loyalty do you exhibit to your counry of birth. Just an observation!
PatriciaMarya | Apr 10, 2012, 09:09 PM EDT
mike4819 - what has Saul Alinsky ever done to you? And why do you act this way. A line from my poem "GamePlan for Evil" goes this way "If I were I a dictator, I would misinform my people; that way they would blame each other." You have been sucked in by the 1% of every country that wants to set the middle and the poor against each other so that they will not be able to notice what the "rulers" are setting up to do! Slow down, mike4819, and recognize that you are being had by the Triads.
mike4819 | Apr 10, 2012, 08:04 PM EDT
It was all a scam from the get go...For Heaven's sake! The Globalist Powers that be, couldn't care less if an Irishman is treated by a foreigner, or a freakin outer galaxy alien!! The whole idea is for one World governence.. To accomplish that Borders,sovreignty, and any sense of Ethnic identity or Patriotism have to be gradually erased! (Especially if you happen to be Caucasion)! Colonial sins of the past/ White guilt will be constantly hammered at by State controlled media and the "Entertainment" industry. They've got you fighting among yourselves (Must be working)! Ever hear of Alinsky tactics? (Obama has a freakin Ph.d in them)...My God, no offense, but would you people ever wake up and stop playing into their hands!
DanOLoingsigh | Apr 10, 2012, 06:43 PM EDT
George alleges that I am a moron...that's as maybe...it doesn't address the possibility of a foreign doctor having to care for a visitor with stated prejudices against him or her...I recall a 1960's film called 'In the Heat of the Night'...nearly 50 years old...sad to see those who complained of discrimination happy to deal it out these days...maybe the 'four freedoms' of the EU passed you guys by???
kinvara7 | Apr 10, 2012, 05:37 PM EDT
And that would be a bad thing, right Robert? That was the point of your article wasn't it, cautioning against a backlash? It would have helped if you mentioned that of the 76,000 people that left Ireland in the 12 months up to April 2011, just over half were Irish. The number of Irish that emigrated was 40,000. It would also have helped if you mentioned that over the same period around 20,000 Irish people returned to Ireland from overseas. Suddenly things begin to look a little different from the 19th century. Of those that have emigated, many have chosen to do so even though there would be work here for them. Just look at your example regarding foreign doctors. You talk about people complaining about foreigners taking Irish jobs, then you talk about young Irish doctors choosing to work elsewhere. Should we attack the foreign doctors we bring in to fill the gaps? If an Irish doctor can't be found to fill such a gap should we give the role to an Irish person even if he/she is not a doctor? As regards medical negligence, I suppose one takes more notice if the doctor is foreign because it justifies one's prejudices. The tone of the article and the muddle of issues it tries to cover in a few sentences is ridiculous. Your article will only help to contribute to such a 'surge' unless you draw readers attention to facts beyond the 'anecdotal'.
bunkerhill | Apr 10, 2012, 05:30 PM EDT
Given what the banksters, mostly emanating from the USA and London have done to destroy the world economy, I feel they are the ones who need to be confronted and not people in the targeted countries pointing fingers at each other. Ireland was a target as were so many other European countries. Ireland's politicians were no dumber than ours in the USA, confounded by a lack of knowledge of financial duplicity which has been going on for centuries. You can almost predict at this time when the next stock market and bank failures will occur because they are all orchestrated. For bythebay the last time we were in Ireland was Oct. 2011. I have a piece of the Berlin wall and have first degree relatives living there. We were in Bavaria and Munich a few years back. However we believe that Ireland is an ancient land whose true prehistoric history is yet to be explored and the Irish natives have a right to the beautiful island they have so meticulously kept in spite of all odds. The foreigners in most cases come from far bigger countries and I would question the reasons they left their home countries. The Nigerians are a very sophisticated group and have an oil and mineral rich country far bigger than the tiny island of Ireland. Why are they in Ireland? The Eastern Europeans are free people again with homelands far larger than the tiny island of Ireland, so why are they not living and working in their homelands. We should stop blaming each other and look to the banksters who orchestrated this horrendous "legal" take over.
awoken32 | Apr 10, 2012, 05:25 PM EDT
@georgedillon,there is no point in even talking to ciaradexy,she fully supports the eradication of her own people,she thinks shed be racist to support the native people of ireland in safeguarding our youths future in our own country,this has nothing got to do with recessions,like the article above suggests,its really quite simple,THE IRISH DO NOT WANT A MULTICULTURAL NIGHTMARE IN THIS COUNTRY,WE WANT IMMIGRANTS TO BE DEPORTED ON MASS,IM SURE EVERY HOUSEHOLD WOULD PAY 100EURO,TO FOOT THE BILL FOR IT,IRELAND HAS ONE PEOPLE AN CULTURE END OF STORY
GeorgeDillon | Apr 10, 2012, 04:34 PM EDT
Dumb comment by oloingsigh. Other posters here have raised the policy and good governance issues posed by the fact that Ireland spends millions every year educating its cohort of medical graduates, and then they leave the country, in many cases never to practice medicine in the place that invested hundreds of thousands in their medical education. Irish workers pay taxes which go to educate these doctors, but these doctors never treat one Irish worker. To fill this gap, Ireland then imports hundreds of Third World doctors and their dependents. Apart from the cost involved in recruiting doctors from Pakistan, Bangla Desh etc., it has been shown that a significant number of these doctors are incompetent. Any fool could see that there are important public policy issues here, but oloinsigh is not just any fool, he's a moron.
DanOLoingsigh | Apr 10, 2012, 04:11 PM EDT
Hey Erinlady - Will you exercise your prejudice if you have a road accident, and the casualty doctor is foreign??? You may be in no condition to walk out, but give me a call, and I'll help you hobble to the nearest hospital staffed solely by medics with Irish accents...but be warned, you may have quite a hobble.....
GeorgeDillon | Apr 10, 2012, 03:18 PM EDT
More logorrhea from ciaradexxy. Her silly syllogism appears to maintain that since Irish Americans emigrated to the US, and we are Irish Americans, we must therefore support Mass Immigration to Ireland or the US. Let's try that one in another instance. Irish Americans such as Phil Sheridan participated in killing large numbers of Native Americans. We are Irish Americans. Therefore we support killing large numbers of Native Americans. I could offer more, but I'm wasting my time going any further. There's no arguing with Her Garrulousness.
awoken32 | Apr 10, 2012, 02:22 PM EDT
The truth of the matter is that mass immigration ,it was illegal from the start,the treasinus irish government will be sorry for betraying their own people an culture,there is nothing racist about irish people wanting to preserve our irish island an irish,mass immigration is desighned to destroy nationality,an that is a fact,ireland is gonna explode sooner rather than later,IRELAND IS NOT FOR SALE AN WILL NOT BE MULTICULTURE,IRISH CULTURE BELONGS IN IRELAND,ITS THE NATURAL ORDER OF THINGS
ciaradexy | Apr 10, 2012, 12:32 PM EDT
Erinlady, imagine all the tourists to the US walked out of a restaurant because the staff werent native Americans. Youd have no visitors anywhere in the entire country! And you speak American, really?
ciaradexy | Apr 10, 2012, 09:53 AM EDT
That was census night 2011.
ciaradexy | Apr 10, 2012, 09:51 AM EDT
During the glory days of the faux Celtic Tiger the Irish Gov't, demonstrating that the Republic was now a stalwart and fully participating member of the EU, opened the floodgates on immigration. This was foolish in the extreme. The country needs a rational, coherent policy on immigration - with serious consideration given to its effect on the national character and culture of what is a very small island country. That said, we also have a bit of a paradox here. We Irish have made the world our home. We not only expect to be welcomed wherever we go (not always in the past), we demand it - note the current debate in the U.S. Still, the mass exodus out of Ireland for economic reasons does not justify an ill-conceived mass immigration into the country. Regardless, the sad reality is that in hard economic times immigrants become easy scapegoats - in the U.S. as in Ireland. While there is cause for concern we should not over-react, the non-Irish population of the Republic, resident in the country on census night, was a little over 12%.
esatdigiwank | Apr 10, 2012, 08:20 AM EDT
So Erinlady, you speak the American language? You almost fooled all of us, lol.
esatdigiwank | Apr 10, 2012, 08:07 AM EDT
At present, the State spends €127m per month on social welfare (see irish independent site). I'd say the days of the handsome weekly welfare payment of €188 to Irish and non-Irish are getting limited once we pass the EU finance treaty end of May. Then its Germany who will dictate to us how we dish out money which of course is no longer ours to spend. This may not compel foreign layabouts to leave but we'll see. But before the above gets your faint hopes up, you may remember that the restriction on folks from Romania And Bulgaria is set to end in a couple of years and then they are free to come (and work?) in Ireland. Bulgaria has the highest concentration of Roma Gypsy numbers in Europe ((.
Erinlady | Apr 10, 2012, 07:44 AM EDT
I am heading to Ireland again this year and if I walk into a restaurant or other business that I hear other accents than an Irish one I will walk right back out. We are over ran by non american speaking people and I am tired of trying to understand what the fu they are saying.
BrianO | Apr 10, 2012, 07:42 AM EDT
In the day they were called worse.
ciaradexy | Apr 10, 2012, 06:29 AM EDT
Wow! Look at all the families of migrants into the US complaining about migrants into ireland! Who was it that just called them rats? Oh yeah 'AngryPaddy'! Are you calling all these Americans on this site 'rats'? Seriously?
IrelandNorth | Apr 10, 2012, 05:33 AM EDT
Characteristic symptomatology of a neo-liberal state run by a native petit-bourgeoisie for whom all lumpen-proletariat are just the same amorphous clump. I was hassled by eastern European contract security staff in Heuston Station yesterday who quite obviously don't yet appreciate the finer principles of living in a neo-liberal democracy. Ah! The joys of living in a proto-totalitarian Europe.
Scotchtommy | Apr 10, 2012, 02:58 AM EDT
What goes round,comes round.All our screaming and horror at old time prejudice for jobs "No Irish Need Apply".What are we proposing now for Ireland "No Immigrants Need Apply"
bogsidebunny | Apr 10, 2012, 01:26 AM EDT
Ireland fell for the "let's import people and pay them half the minimum wage" during the Celtic Tiger years. It worked fine then because €1,000 a week jobs for unskilled IRISH were plentiful and the burger-flipper ones went begging. Now the worm has turned the "imports" aren't going away and they're taking the few job left that the Irish now want. Irish Culture 101 -lesson 1: The Irish are greedy to the point they will exploit others for their gain and then toss out the exploitees like week old trash!
cinderfella1 | Apr 09, 2012, 11:28 PM EDT
These foreigners should go back to their own country or homeland. This country is our native country and if we don't send them back now, they'll end up trying to take over and we'll be the minority, before it's over with.
VonLiebenitz | Apr 09, 2012, 10:41 PM EDT
Where,s the incentive? To paraphrase a certain red headed actor who has since paraphrased himself. There is none.
VonLiebenitz | Apr 09, 2012, 10:40 PM EDT
Its just an idea.Maybe on the whole i am wrong.Probably.I know a lot of Irish people wont take various job. And i cant say i blame them.Minimum wage is about the same or not much more than the social welfare.And these type of jobs are boring repetitive and in some cases back breaking with no job security and no room for promotion.
VonLiebenitz | Apr 09, 2012, 10:35 PM EDT
Here,s a simple solution.First send all the immigrants currently of social welfare home.F the EU regulations.Second implement as stricter border policy for immigrants.Third and this one is optional. Send all the foreign workers home and force these companies to give a willing equally qualified(usually better qualified) Irish native this job.When all that is done.Then open the borders and allow some immigrants back in.Third. Do all this without all the unessecary and frankly irrelevant right wing rhetoric.If you think this makes me racist or zenophobic then it just goes to show how deeply and completely indoctrinated you have become to pass up a common sense solution in order to cling to an ideal that was cooked up to cheapen the labour market and destroy western cultural values. It just goes to show you, madame liberties legs are always open regardless of the consequences.And fourth do all this with compassion and without rancour recognising that both side beneffitted from the arrangment.This is not personal it,s strictly buisiness.Thank you.Do this citing unusual and unforseen circumstances that no contingency could have prepared us for.
OBPiper | Apr 09, 2012, 09:11 PM EDT
My girlfriend from Co. Roscommon and I were in Ireland late summer last year. We were appalled at the number of foreigners who owned businesses and real estate in Ireland. Certainly, in a down economy, a country should provide for its own citizens before exporting them or importing foreigners, but with outsourcing of the land and business of Ireland comes a loss of sovereignty as we are experiencing in the U.S.A. were big money from all over the world runs the country and industry has been looted and parcelled out.
allan07 | Apr 09, 2012, 08:46 PM EDT
@aloistmartin I need a woman to. I like Madonna and Kylie. Cant make my mind up though. Both are sexy ladies. I am 28 but madonna is certainly hot at 50. Got her number anyone? Lovely legs!
faberm1 | Apr 09, 2012, 08:32 PM EDT
If we're going to open it all up then Ireland needs to open its borders to Americans who would like to work there. I looked into my son going over there a while back and Americans aren't permitted work visas. So.....the Irish shouldn't be allowed here either. Turnaround is fair play. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
TayandCake | Apr 09, 2012, 08:24 PM EDT
Anti immigration is never the way to go, we must prove this guy Roberts wrong with his predictions.
BrianO | Apr 09, 2012, 08:18 PM EDT
rpmschevy 4- whooping cough, tuberculosis, the plague.
rpmschevy | Apr 09, 2012, 07:17 PM EDT
Now you all understand our frustration here in the US. This is exactly what we have been complaining about, free this and that, but those of us who do something the legal way get shafted. 1 - Illegal immigrants 2 - Not assimilating 3 - H1B Visas taking jobs away from Americans Now that is more prevalent in Ireland your all complaining. Support us and we would be happy to support you. The problem is we, Irish and Americans, sat on our hands and let the so called "progressives" get into places of "authority" with little understanding of exceptional nations and we our now paying the price.
whitebirtch | Apr 09, 2012, 07:04 PM EDT
hey folks, I think signer "bunkerhill" hits the nail just right. We, all of the world are being herded into this problem. Stop the takeover of all nations-the big "they" are the one's that are causing all of these problems. We, all of us have got to stand up, vote even in school elections, vote in city,county and national elections. If we all take part--we will win. F/X
aloistmartin | Apr 09, 2012, 06:43 PM EDT
Dublin needs Women ~
bunkerhill | Apr 09, 2012, 05:54 PM EDT
I think the problem really lies with the "New World Order" as controlled by the banksters and their royal cohorts. It seems almost every country in the world is in chaos. Does anyone really know who the true Native Americans were or for that matter the true natives of any country since there were no country bounderies, but only tribes wandering around. We happen to think Ireland is as important to the past as Israel is and we don't want to see their history lost. We also think, including our own country, anyone who needs a hand up to get a job should be given the opportunity but no able bodied person should be given a free lunch at the expense of hard working people. However at this point we must exempt the people who lost their jobs to the "banksters." We also truly believe in helping the disabled who need a hand and are usually the last to get it. Being American we do not see any reason why anyone should have an "elite" calling themselves "politicians" or "royals" living in luxury while the disabled starve. The American Colonies were built on child labor "indentured servants" cleared out from England and Holland and the treatment of these children was truly horrendous. That was before the powers that be came up with the idea of African enslavement. I think we need to take a look at the "banksters" who caused all this trouble and are quietly taking over the world. We have family in Ireland and will continue to visit and love the country. We really don't care what the Irish American haters think of us.
cynicus | Apr 09, 2012, 05:48 PM EDT
As far as tbow009 is concerned, such racist and master-race type nonsense was tried before and failed! Thank goodness. We do not need more hitler-types; his abominably evil crimes were enough for all time!
Murph46 | Apr 09, 2012, 05:28 PM EDT
We American-Irish are supportive so why the nasty comments? America itself is doing it's best to help you,just today I picked up my newest Golf Digest and they have a comparison article of golf in Ireland vs.Bandon Dunes in Oregon and guess what,Ireland with it's great courses is the same as Bandon Dunes.Hey give us a break -we aren't here to hurt Ireland(though some of you jerks seem to portray us that way.
ciaradexy | Apr 09, 2012, 04:37 PM EDT
So are all you yanks gonna leave the US and give it back to the natives? No, I thought not. hypocrites. I have yet to see any anti-immigration marches in Ireland. Get over yourselves! Youre ALL the result of migration but you cant even see the irony in your arguments!
1MADCELT | Apr 09, 2012, 04:22 PM EDT
It's real easy to start laying blame on this group or that group, but it seems that everyone starts laying in on the Irish coming to America and taking jobs away. HOW QUICKLY YOU ALL FORGET! the Irish People are one of the main reasons that this country is great. and there were once signs in the U.S. that said Irish need not apply. but when this country came and begged our people to help them out during the Civil War, with the PROMISE to help us rid Ireland of the British once and for all, We gladly came here and spilled our blood for this country. And What did the U.S. do? RENEGED on the promise. So the next time you talk about Irish taking away jobs here, remember if it werent for us you would'nt be enjoying the freedoms you have today. and ever notice around election time the candidates are always "lookin for their Irish roots"? ever wonder why?...
billyjustin | Apr 09, 2012, 04:07 PM EDT
now all of you lads who think immigration has taken hold, you'r right. what we have left is old irish and foreign nationals living on the welfare, most foreign nationals are being employed by greedy irish/polish and nigerian blood suckers, and what we have left is the multi nationals who pay only a small % of tax,down the drain.. billy from limerick.
mike4819 | Apr 09, 2012, 04:04 PM EDT
Geez, it's about time!!!! Whenever Native-born people (in this case the Irish) are encouraged to Emmigrate...While immigrants are welcomed in and given Employment, Housing,and Health-care, You can be pretty sure that there is a Race-Replacement agenda in play...(Geee, Ya think???). Courtesy if those wonderful folks at the E.U.
DCVietVet | Apr 09, 2012, 03:44 PM EDT
Ya got nothing to quibble about. There are many Irih workers, who come to america, and take away jobs from Americans in the summer, especially at the Jersey Shore. I you can't retain your locally educated and trained doctors, and such, something is very wrong!! Get Ireland out of the EU, it's a sinking ship!!!
tbow009 | Apr 09, 2012, 03:40 PM EDT
There comes a time when you absolutely MUST preserve your nation, your culture, and your people. In order to do so you MUST expel foreign invaders who may or may not be hostile, but nonetheless can and will have a detrimental and destructive effect on you and your people. Ask them nicely to leave. If they refuse to get off YOUR lands then express your desire for them to leave in ever greater and more convincing ways.
GeorgeDillon | Apr 09, 2012, 03:31 PM EDT
I was going to post some views on this but then I read thru the other posts and saw that my point of view had been well expressed by many others! The only additional point I would make is to ask why Roberts adopts that sanctimonious tone in his article. He's dead wrong (no surprise there)that Irish people's opposition to Mass Immigration only commenced when the Irish economy went south. I defy Roberts or anyone else to give one shred of evidence that the Irish people at ANY time supported handing over their national homeland to foreign settlers. And why shouldn't Irish people--or French people for that matter--oppose unlimited settlement of their country by foreigners, Roberts? If you think Mass Immigration is a good idea, ask a native American.
bunkerhill | Apr 09, 2012, 03:03 PM EDT
I don't quite understand what all these people are seeking asylum from and why their claims are not checked out before they are allowed to enter Ireland or any country. Given this scenario they might even be criminals. Poland is a free country so what is their problem. Even Bulgaria in Eastern Europe had a documentary recently pulling their hair out about what to do about an idle Romanian gypsy population who have been given all kinds of help but are still unable to function to sustain themselves and are draining the working Bulgarians. We were in Germany in 1987 and found a huge Turkish population in Berlin, although they were a working group, not causing any problems, and we saw no animosity towards them. However Germany is also now overrun with foreignors. The Irish have been leaving forever because 70 million people cannot fit on the island, and then of course there was that genocide. To allen07 maybe your vat was increased to pay for a new royal yacht or a new wedding or commemoration. But then you do have Ireland's only deep sea seaport kept very wisely by the royals before the age of aviation. We need to back to America's old rules - You must be healthy in mind and body, have a sponsor who will keep you until you get a job and if you are unemployable you will be deported. The gypsy population needs help but certainly enabling them to continue their idle, indigent life style is not helping them. There is no reason why any group of people should be sitting idle while another group is expected to support them, and no group should ever feel they have such an entitlement.
peterson | Apr 09, 2012, 02:27 PM EDT
It is time for Ireland (and England) to get out of the EU, which in short order, will be run by Germany and France!! Germany could not take over Europe with two wars, so they will do it another way !!
allan07 | Apr 09, 2012, 02:27 PM EDT
@STEVENSTAR YOUR CAPS IS LOCKED ON MATE. I DETECT THE ANGER. TURN IT TO lower case. Thats better. Of course the Republic of Ireland joined the EU and like everything you join you have to accept the rules. The ROI has received 150 Billion Euros since it joined. Thats 7 Euros it has had for every 1 Euro it has put in. So if your unhappy campaign for a referendum and vote to leave. (End of all those grants, financial meltdown then mate). I wish the British Labour party had not cheated the people in the UK out of a referendum on withdrawal from the EU. 95% would support withdrawal me included. In Northern Ireland here we get lots of foreigners too. Polish, Iraqi, Romanians, Bulgarians and even those from the Free State also referred to as the Republic of Ireland. After 90 years of independence they still come to Northern Ireland. Why? I thought they wanted to be independent? The ROI is a failed state even 90 years after independence. Failed politicans. Eg. Bertie Ahern involved in bribery, failed left wing parties. SF/FF/FG/Greens/Labour. Its like a choice between the Cray twins. Reggie or Ronny. Ok its more like a choice between the ugly sisters.
Towngate | Apr 09, 2012, 02:15 PM EDT
@ EileenOfarell: Agree: But there is a simple solution for these money-grubbing medicos who steal their education from Ireland and sell it abroad. It could be made a condition of their desertion that they re-pay - with the co-operation of their adoptive employing country - by an 'attachment of earnings' being imposed until the cost of their education is recouped. ~~~ Their disloyalty leaves the door open for possibly less qualified doctors,etc., to infect Ireland. >>> On welfare Benefits: Irelands insanely high levels of payments are dangerous in two ways: 1: They discourage Irish natives from working for a living and 2: by leaving the jobs open to incomers who are prepared to work but also attracts abuse from those who arrive with that sole intention.
allan07 | Apr 09, 2012, 02:10 PM EDT
@PhlutiePhan the irish have been leaving Ireland since time began. Before the potato famine in 1848, a hundred years ago on the titanic, after world war 2 and even today. Whats new? So they can hardly sit in judgement of others when they done the same for generations. The problem is Ireland has never been able to provide for its own people. Lets face it when Nissan cars wanted to build a carplant in the EU. They decided upon Sunderland as it was down the road from a large steel manufacturing plant. The docks to export their vehicles and also to unload vehicles into the UK. Economics its called. Getting your costs down by locating in the correct place for materials, transport, access to a large market, a large workforce in nearby Sunderland, Newcastle and surrounding areas. Eg. Middlesborough. So its Sunderland and not Sligo. The other common sense matter is the political parties of the UK are more stable. Can you imagine Sein Fein in charge of economic policy? Bombs and timers yes but budgets and taxes never. The ROI has always a coalition government so theres a good chance they would get into government and then real damage would ensue. I guess they would probably nationalise the economy and turn it into Cuba. We really would be going up with a real bang then! So the japanese are not so silly. Here in Northern Ireland we have had our VAT increased from 17.5% to 20% to pay these clowns in the Republic of Ireland a 8 billion Euro loan. Why us they have been bombing us for 30 years? Biting of the very hand that feeds them! Crazy seiners. Mad as a box of frogs.
FastEddy | Apr 09, 2012, 12:54 PM EDT
"Anti-immigrant surge likely ..." Duh! ... What would ever give you this clue after all these years ... Now you are beginning to get an inkling about all of the "illegals" here in the states.
Springfield9 | Apr 09, 2012, 12:41 PM EDT
I'm not against immigration that is run with sanity. Tell me where the 40,000 Muslims are living and what they are doing. It's an island - a delicate system. I was in a Pub in Klonakilty, Co. Cork when a pack of Eastern Europeans came in and ruined the night for everyone.
STEVENSTAR | Apr 09, 2012, 12:06 PM EDT
@@@Bythebay | Apr 09, 2012, 10:49 AM EDT>>>> YES YOU ARE 100% RIGHT ID WRITTEN MY COMMENT BEFORE I READ YOURS ... SO I DONT BLAME THE EASTERN EUROPEANS AS MUCH AS I BLAME THE IDIOTS RUNNING IRELAND.
STEVENSTAR | Apr 09, 2012, 12:03 PM EDT
17% of the irish population is now Non national. We have the best welfare state in Europe and hence why so many Eastern Europeans come over here namely Polish and Roamanian where in Poland you get 50EURO A WEEK ON WELFARE AND IN IRELAND YOU GET 188 EURO PER WEEK PLUS FREE HOUSING... THE AMOUNT OF POLISH OVBR HERE IN IRELAND ON WELFARE IN IRELAND IS SCARY.. TO TOP ALL THIS OFF WHEN THE EASTERN BLOCK JOINED THE EU IN 2004 IRELAND UK AND SWEDEN HAD TO HAVE AN OPEN DOOR POLICLY TO THEM ALL .. THE CLEVER GERMANS WHO ARE NOW RUNNING EUROPE HAD A CLOSED DOOR POLICY TO EASTERN EUROPE TILL LAST YEAR AND STILL HAVE A CLOSED DOO TO ROMANIANS ... SO BLAME TEH IDIOTS RUNNING THE COUNTRY ... AS THERE IS NO WHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD WOULD YOU MEET SUCH DONKEYS AND FOOLS AS THEY ARE.. NO WONDER WE AND NOT MILLIONS BUT BILLIONS IN DEBT ..
PhlutiePhan | Apr 09, 2012, 10:31 AM EDT
If you man by foreign, Islam. Then, there is a concern. There is a concerted Islamic strategy to infiltrate a Muslim community and then to disrupt. Ireland is no exception. The provisional I.R.A. is an ally of Iran and China. If you create turmoil, then you can take advantage.
EileenOfarrell | Apr 09, 2012, 10:27 AM EDT
My aunt, who lives in Dublin, has kept me informed of this situation regarding so much money being spent to educate the doctors and then they leave Ireland. Perhaps if these students signed a contract that in exchange for a free education; that they practice their skills in Ireland for a period of time after graduation, say five years or so, and then they are free to emigrate to the country of their choice. I realize this doesn't address the immediate problem but it might stop future brain drain.
bunkerhill | Apr 09, 2012, 10:00 AM EDT
I saw on American TV last week that the Swedes and Norwegians are voicing the same concerns and have heard it personally from Danes. The impact on these tiny countries along with Ireland is changing the whole fabric of life and it is really unfair to the natives. Why are all these people leaving their countries which in many cases are far bigger in size and have far more resources?
BrianO | Apr 09, 2012, 09:47 AM EDT
If a person won't assimilate they show disdain for the country they occupy. They become a foreign invading force.
celtichearing | Apr 09, 2012, 09:20 AM EDT
There is a deep resentment for east euopeans more so than any other. I live a in a large private housing estate where most of the houses are rented to east europeans. Most are here since the boom and have never worked!Thay do not assimilate or make any contribution to the community. they spend most of there time drinking cheap beer/vodka from lidel. Last monday at 1.30 in the afternoon i had to drag a drunk east european from my daughters front door , which he was trying to kick in. Called the guards and was told a car would not call till about three! So i did the decent thing and called him an ambulance. We had a clean up of the estate last week and there were three east euro muppets drinking cans of beer and trowing them on the ground as there IRISH tax PAYING BEIGHBOURS WERE PICKING THEM UP.This is just the tip of the iceberg,not to mention the prostution, puplic drinking, urination and anti social behaviour. I feel its only a matter of time before people start taking the law into there on hands