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Anti-immigrant surge likely as Irish economy deteriorates -- Resentment of foreign doctors and workers tip of the iceberg

Posted on Monday, April 09, 2012 at 08:15 AM

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mike4819 | Apr 11, 2012, 05:25 PM EDT

PatriciaMarya...And who are you being had by?? ....Were you one of the speakers at 'occupy Wall Street??? Nah, on second thought, I guess not.Anyway,I thought everyone knew by now who the 'Great Alinsky' was, But Again, I guess not. When Belgians and French people have 'No Go' ares in their own freakin countries...When Young Irish People HAVE to emmigrate To find work, while Immigrants are being welcomed in and given aid, Well, Who is really being had!! Geeez, ya don't even need Alinsky's fine honed tactics... A little media manipulation...A little white guilt, and presto they give their country away, to 'Gimme-Grants'! UN-freakin-believable!

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mike4819 | Apr 11, 2012, 05:13 PM EDT

TomSwinford... You're entirely welcome Tom, Now For Heaven's sake STAY AWAKE and stop being a dullard! Whoa, hold on a second..Why, you were being sarcastic, weren'you...You rascal! Tommy, to believe that everything that happens in life is part of a conspiracy is a bit silly, But it's equally silly to keep your head in the sand. Like Ole' FDR (Roosevelt) said " Nothing in politics happens by accident..." And he was someone who would have known. Do you really think that the cultural destruction of Europe just Wellll..'kinda just happened'??? PULEASE!

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DanOLoingsigh | Apr 11, 2012, 04:03 PM EDT

Georgia - No I don't back Mass Immigration...but I do back equality and respect for citizens or legal migrants...no matter what accent they have...most IT companies and others need foreign staff, as well as locals, for the right skill-set...labelling them all as 'benefit cheats' plays into the hands of xenophobes...the Nazis used similar tactics to demonise the jews...learn from history, don't risk repeating it!!!!

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GeorgeDillon | Apr 11, 2012, 03:07 PM EDT

More logorrhea from Loingsigh. Racist dopes like him try to stifle debate on Mass Immigration. In Ireland they've had some success--none of the TV or radio channels ever gives time to the (majority) view, which opposes unlimited settlement of Ireland by foreign migrants. The parliament over there has not had one minute of debate on immigration policy in the dozen or years that migrants have been streaming en masse into Ireland. That's the way that racists and government stooges like Loingsig like it. However, as can be seen from the posters here, and of course from visiting with Irish people, there is increasing anger at the mad Mass Immigration policy which racist fools like logorrhea loinsigh back. As one man said to me "Just what benefits did the immigrants bring to Ireland?" To which I replied "They didn't bring benefits, sir, they get benefits, and you're paying for them!" I know that discussion of this topic is heavily censored in Ireland, but no piece of racist garbage is going to censor me!

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DanOLoingsigh | Apr 11, 2012, 02:42 PM EDT

Hey George D...maybe you can save Erinlady from having to meet those with 'UnIrish accents' (they may be Irish citizens, by the way, but will still sound foreign)...here's how, dig out that old Brown suit of yours, and as you travel the ould country, just paint a big five-pointed (EU) star on any business where the hated foreigners work...when you've sorted that, find out where they worship, and do the same...then you and Erinlady can be sure of ethnic purity on your visit...

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Springfield9 | Apr 11, 2012, 09:44 AM EDT

Irealnd has been commiting ethnic suicide for 15 years. Wake up!

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awoken32 | Apr 11, 2012, 09:33 AM EDT

its only natural that my fellow brothers an sisters do not want our country destroyed,racism has nothing got to do with it at all,the people of ireland or any other native people deserve their culture to be respected an not multiculted,lets get real here,multiculture does not and has not worked,thats an undenyable fact,it is done without mandate,an it is done to destroy cultural identidy,ireland needs a REAL patriotic party to stand up for its people,or we will have a patriotic paramilitary party,we are not gonna just lie down an die for so-called political correctness/wrongness,our island has never been multicultural an it never will be,this is ireland home to the irish people,an thats the proper way,an we should always preserve that,its not africa asia or china,its ireland

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esatdigiwank | Apr 11, 2012, 08:41 AM EDT

Seanmor brings up the matter of the artificial border. I must query if that border is manned by immigration officials or police at Any of its crossings. I've taken the train from Dublin to Belfast and back several occasions and have never seen any such personnel. Can someone clarify this apparent if worrying laxness in Irish land-border security, put me right, buíochas.

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Seanmor | Apr 11, 2012, 12:20 AM EDT

Its about time Irish citizens at both sides of the artificial border placed themselves ahead of foreigners. About four years ago the Irish state was paying €400 million a year to immigrants -legal and illegal- on the dole, and in many cases foreigners were given hiring preference over better qualified natives. I wonder how many Irish people who attended the Easter commerations of the 1916 rising heeded the phrase in the Proclamation that says, "The people of Ireland have the right to the ownership of Ireland". It doesn't state that Arabs, Indians and Africans may rightfully claim Irish ownership at the expence of the country's natives.

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Seanmor | Apr 10, 2012, 09:45 PM EDT

mike4819, a cara, God bless you for opening my eyes. What a dullard I've been. Now I can see this monstrous global conspiracy. Now I know we never landed on the moon. Now I know who really killed Kennedy and now I know for sure that the CIA was behind 911. Thank you, thank you for your unique insights and brilliant deductions. Bravo!

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PatriciaMarya | Apr 10, 2012, 09:27 PM EDT

Thought: if Ireland underwrites its medical students and they don't honor their commitment to fulfill their terms of service - simple: claw back the money that was spent on their medical degrees WITH INTEREST! If they still insist on emigrating, no problem - the new country must be ready to pay their bounty before these new doctors are allowed to leave. If the new country wants them, great - Ireland gets paid back with interest. If not, then Ireland has to stop underwriting their doctors' education. Interesting: at Columbia University's Dental school, I was treated by a terrific dental student who was completing his work and was getting ready to return to his country of birth to serve his fellow countrymen in Berlin. Nice to see such loyalty. Too bad Ireland doesn't seem to breed that sort of citizen. Perhaps that should be the way to measure each other in the Old Sod: what kind of loyalty do you exhibit to your counry of birth. Just an observation!

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PatriciaMarya | Apr 10, 2012, 09:09 PM EDT

mike4819 - what has Saul Alinsky ever done to you? And why do you act this way. A line from my poem "GamePlan for Evil" goes this way "If I were I a dictator, I would misinform my people; that way they would blame each other." You have been sucked in by the 1% of every country that wants to set the middle and the poor against each other so that they will not be able to notice what the "rulers" are setting up to do! Slow down, mike4819, and recognize that you are being had by the Triads.

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mike4819 | Apr 10, 2012, 08:04 PM EDT

It was all a scam from the get go...For Heaven's sake! The Globalist Powers that be, couldn't care less if an Irishman is treated by a foreigner, or a freakin outer galaxy alien!! The whole idea is for one World governence.. To accomplish that Borders,sovreignty, and any sense of Ethnic identity or Patriotism have to be gradually erased! (Especially if you happen to be Caucasion)! Colonial sins of the past/ White guilt will be constantly hammered at by State controlled media and the "Entertainment" industry. They've got you fighting among yourselves (Must be working)! Ever hear of Alinsky tactics? (Obama has a freakin Ph.d in them)...My God, no offense, but would you people ever wake up and stop playing into their hands!

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DanOLoingsigh | Apr 10, 2012, 06:43 PM EDT

George alleges that I am a moron...that's as maybe...it doesn't address the possibility of a foreign doctor having to care for a visitor with stated prejudices against him or her...I recall a 1960's film called 'In the Heat of the Night'...nearly 50 years old...sad to see those who complained of discrimination happy to deal it out these days...maybe the 'four freedoms' of the EU passed you guys by???

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kinvara7 | Apr 10, 2012, 05:37 PM EDT

And that would be a bad thing, right Robert? That was the point of your article wasn't it, cautioning against a backlash? It would have helped if you mentioned that of the 76,000 people that left Ireland in the 12 months up to April 2011, just over half were Irish. The number of Irish that emigrated was 40,000. It would also have helped if you mentioned that over the same period around 20,000 Irish people returned to Ireland from overseas. Suddenly things begin to look a little different from the 19th century. Of those that have emigated, many have chosen to do so even though there would be work here for them. Just look at your example regarding foreign doctors. You talk about people complaining about foreigners taking Irish jobs, then you talk about young Irish doctors choosing to work elsewhere. Should we attack the foreign doctors we bring in to fill the gaps? If an Irish doctor can't be found to fill such a gap should we give the role to an Irish person even if he/she is not a doctor? As regards medical negligence, I suppose one takes more notice if the doctor is foreign because it justifies one's prejudices. The tone of the article and the muddle of issues it tries to cover in a few sentences is ridiculous. Your article will only help to contribute to such a 'surge' unless you draw readers attention to facts beyond the 'anecdotal'.

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