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Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2011 at 05:09 AM

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General Election looms but no voice for emigrant Irish

With the General Election looming, millions of people around the globe will once again be robbed of their right to have a say in Ireland’s political destiny.

Under Irish law if you are living abroad you cannot be entered into the register of electors.

There are some exceptions for Irish diplomats, members of the defense and police forces who can apply for a postal vote if they are abroad in Election Day.

So for countless Irish abroad they are caught in diplomatic limbo. Not able to cast a vote in their homeland, and an immigrant in their new home, the act of voting becomes a thing of the past with your power to exercise your constitutional right stripped.

More than 110 countries allow passport holders who live abroad the right to vote, however Ireland is not one of them.

If you are not present in Ireland on polling day, then your vote is lost.

In Britain, citizens who registered in the last 15 years can vote abroad in elections for Parliament and European Parliament, but not local elections.

France has tested Internet voting in order to stimulate voter participation. A 2003 law means French voters living overseas are afforded the right to vote electronically, or by mail or at a local embassy or consulate. In Holland citizens abroad can vote by mail or online.

With emigration levels mirroring those of the eighties, a significant proportion of the Irish Diaspora now spread throughout the globe, are unable to cast a vote on Election Day.

According to the Economic and Social Research Institute around 1,000 people are leaving Ireland each week. Countless voices and thousands of votes lost.

Families, graduates and the unemployed, those most affected by Ireland’s downturn are been stripped of their right to cast their verdict as they leave Irish shores.

Two Irish friends and I recently discussed the potential outcome of the imminent election, and its grave importance, which will go down in the history books.

Two of us New York based and the other in DC, we each left Ireland just over a year ago. All in agreement that we would like to return some time in future, we collectively lamented the loss of our democratic right to vote.

In a country where thousands are leaving, many of which share a desire to return home some day, it seems draconian that our voice is lost.

During Ireland’s heyday the Government allocated millions for an electronic voting system that’s now gathering dust in a storage unit somewhere in Dublin.

Just like the abandoned voting system, Irish emigrant’s voices will become obsolete on polling day, as our say in the countries future is goes unaccounted.


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Well said Stumptown.
A emigrant is a lawful person that becomes a citizen of a new country is THEN a emigrant of the persons old country. I welcome all emigrants in THEIR new country, the USA and hope they have a full and happy life. ANY PERSON THAT ENTERS ANY COUNTRY UNLAWFULLY IS A ILLEGAL PERSON IN THAT COUNTRY. The USA has a invasion of over 12,000,000 ILLEGALS who are all in violation of USA law as well as takeing good jobs from Americans for scab wages by their law violating employers as the American taxpayers pick up the illegal's tab. It is against USA federal law to hire or rent to ILLEGALS. The dogooder groups that speakout for the ILEGALS and turn around and claim tax exempt paying no taxes need to have the TAX EXAMPT law repeled so that they would have total freedom of speech account of the tax exampt law's rules dealing with speaking politally. The only country in Europe without homeless or ILLEGALS is the Vatican.
i'm sorry, but why should they have a vote & elect a party with say a minority of 1-2 votes, thereby influencing the outcome of the general election & in the meantime, not paying irish taxes or contributing to the wealth of the nation.
@Watchman Feb 1st - sorry you decided to drop posts on ICentral; I've always paid much attention to them and held them in high regard. I agree that since sirpeter and his ilk appeared on the scene, the language and quality of posts has deteriorated considerably. One wonders if ICentral has a Moderator to stop abusive posts. (For info: Watchman is, by his own admission, Walter Ellis, one of Ireland's finest writers from Nth Ireland.)
There’s a sub-section of the Irish Electoral Act 1992 entitled “Special Voters List”. In it is says “The special voters list shall be in such form as the Minister may direct.” A government minister could, at the stroke of a pen, without consulting Dail Eireann (parliament) include Irish emigrants in the special voters list. Why hasn’t this been done?
If Fianna Fail had their way nobody would have a vote... They deliberately wouldnt hold the 4 by-elections here last year, just to hold on 2 power... This is the island of saints and robbers nowadays.. The things that are happening to ordinary decent people here on a daily basis are just sickening... eg.. Dublin City Council, [D.C.C] and Ballymun Regeneration Limited [B.R.L], in the cold icy conditins [january 2010took it upon themselves to turn off the heat on a young mother [rachel peavoy] and 2 children.. Despite representations from a local priest, and local politicans, B.R.L wouldnt listen.. This young mother of 30yrs died in her flat from hyperthermia... But as usual we wont have any accountability... On a different issue a senior B.R.L oficial told residents who had real concerns, "Its my job and I will do what i like" Theese are the sort of "bullyboy tactics" we are subjected to in this country now... If this happened anywhere else in the world,, our government would be the first to condemn such conduct.... Thoose of our children who got out of this sad sick country dont realise how lucky they were... As a parent of 4 children it pains me to make theese comments... But i am ashamed to be irish in this so called modern ireland...........
Do any of you realise how much effort you have to put to get your name on the Register of Electors in Ireland numerous phone calls, meeting with your local T.D. to get the forms in on time, can you just imagine the shite they would make of trying to get the emigrants to vote.
May I make a suggestion? This correspondence is a disgrace. I opted out of it months ago and haven't regretted it since. There are three or four of you who should follow my example.
Maginty's Goat..Well I go easy on women because i know they have to make supper and i don't want to upset you..I'd hate to spoil a guys chances later on. Are you sure you could take all I spout *wink..There was loads of wisdom in what i posted...Look at all who agreed with me!! All fundamentally saying the same thing..Here is the list of the wise: actor47 ..borefield..FastEddy the rant..biggles008..jdi2269..antoman...Those who disagree.. GeorgeDillon and Dublinass and they are the Village idiot's..Run along back to the kitchen now and know your place. When you can post like this woman AoifeNicSeáin...Then I'll take you serious. Don't forget to put the beer in the cooler.
S.Peter Oh do not bother to go easy on me because I am a woman, I can take all you spout, you are so so full of it...." There was a certain amount of wisdom to my first post" Who said...you said.
Maginty's Goat,..What's wrong with crap?..I could calls what your post sh*t.But I think you are a woman,so i go easy. I like using profanities...You have to admit...I use them so well..See you made a mistake at having a good laugh at my post and not posting your own opinion...Up to that point my profanities were not directed at you.I reserve them for the few special consistence offenders. .Hmmm..Your not one of those who laugh at others and then get all indignant when they tell you go fu*k yourself are you? With me you should have know what to expect. There was a certain element of wisdom to my first post on this topic and it was not to be laughed at..well you can if you want,but be ready to do battle. I live in Ireland and the article is just stupid,so i get my profanities box ready.
A great article on a burning issue! Ireland would sink beneath the sea if it's emigrants returned! We pay our taxes to the EU, ergo to Ireland and no taxation without representation! Derry O'Sullivan Paris
And a very fine job he does of it I might add. LOL
S.PETER you mentioned my name in another blog trying to make fun of what I say, also mentioned the word ...crap. Take a long hard look in the mirror, all you do in the blogs is spout profanities.
Antoman..You know Georgybolix is a bit..you know..a bit special..as long as he never agrees with ya..that's the main thing if you want to know your sanity is intact. ;))




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