US won a world war in 4 years, yet after 10 years we are still getting killed in Afghanistan
Posted on Monday, February 27, 2012 at 04:44 PM
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The innocent burnings of these books has sparked religious outrage and caused the murder and injury of US troops throughout this country. For days all hell has broken loose in this land, as if a floodgate had been thrown open,
But is this just symptomatic of something far greater than the burnings of a few books? How many Korans have been destroyed and burned by Taliban terror strikes on the people of Afghanistan?...and yet we saw no mass demonstrations by the native population against these acts.
Of course in a different time, the United States waged war to win war, we (and our allies) won a world war in less than four years in the 1940's. In World War II as American forces entered Germany, if they were fired upon, artillery opened up on the village the gunfire came from and flattened it. That put a quick end to resistance as folks learned there would be consequences, especially with American Generals like Patton in command. The German people soon sought out and exposed or killed those amongst them who wanted to continue the war. Resistance to American forces soon ceased and we began to help the German people. America stayed in Germany to help rebuild the country into the economic powerhouse it is today and also to guard against Soviet expansion.
But Afghanistan has proven to be a totally different sort of war. After 10 years of "winning hearts and minds" it appears it is still a dangerous, violent country, ready to explode at any sort of spark, like one from a burning Koran.
Should we have used more Patton and less patent leather to conduct our "war"?
The biggest cash crop in Afghanistan is still the opium poppy, which is the basis for the heroin imported into Europe and the United States. Afghanistan produces 90% of the worlds opium and production has been on the rise since U.S. occupation started in 2001. Opium is also one of the main sources of money for the Taliban who are killing our troops. Why are these opium farms still allowed to flourish while Afghanistan is supposedly under our military control?
Furthermore, after all of this blood and sacrifice by US forces, it was learned Afghanistan signed an oil extraction agreement with China in 2011 that lets China exploit Afghan resources. Who is in charge of our foreign policy?
The Afghan people are exotic, you can see they bear resemblance to all of the past invaders of their country who tried and failed to rule this wild land. Alexander the Great with his Greek Army, Arab Muslims, Genghis Khan and his Mongols, the British and the Russians, all eventually were defeated and forced to leave.
Afghanistan has been chewing up and spitting out foreign invaders for over two thousand years. America has been in this country for 10 years and it seems there is no end in sight, unless a severe policy change comes into effect and that doesn't seem likely.
When we see our soldiers getting shot because a book was burned, when we see Afghanistan as the biggest producer of opium in the world and when we see China slipping in signing trade agreements with this government including oil rights, right under our noses....We wonder what the blood toil and tears are for?
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Curitiba | Mar 04, 2012, 04:03 PM EST
I read in an English national newspaper that there is a trillon dollars' worth of minerals locked up in Afghanistan's hills. Would this have anything to do with it?
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GeorgeDillon | Mar 04, 2012, 03:01 PM EST
OK. OLOingsigh has nothing to do with NATO. We copy.
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sirpeter | Mar 03, 2012, 05:49 PM EST
Springfield9.Anyone who shoots back at American soldiers when fired upon is not civilized.Isn't that right Springfield9? It's nearly time to use the smallpox blanket trick again on these Indians/uncivilized people.
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ciaradexy | Mar 03, 2012, 10:27 AM EST
Idiots like George give me a good aul laugh. He has been made look like a fool many times and yet he can never just accept the fact that HE CAN ACTUALLY BE WRONG! Irish people are quite humble and we dont sing our own praises. We like debate, discussion and argument but when we are wrong, we admit it so this just proves that george is not Irish! He has no irish traits whatsoever! Well done Dan! Your posts are very interesting. its good to see that some people on this site have travelled the world, experienced other cultures and countries, try to help out when they can and have something to offer and discuss rather than the pseudo intellectuals who p1ss and moan on here and think their ideas of a place and its people are fact! Its nice to read some non arrogant posts when people are talking about their experiences. More of this please!
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Springfield9 | Mar 03, 2012, 09:34 AM EST
1. Afghanistan is not civilized 2. Remember Number 1.
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sirpeter | Mar 02, 2012, 07:54 PM EST
@Charlie.Relax there now a second.Don't be to fast to criticize Muslims for their extreme violence over someone burning their holy books.If a Muslim starting burning American flags in America he might also be killed by fanatics if America was in a state of occupation by Muslims.The real crazy part is who thought burning Korans was a good idea.It frightens me that you think these people are backward.No nation on the planet is backward.You should respect people and families who survive in the harshest of environments.They do the best they can to make sense of it all and survive.If I locked your family and your pet dog in a shed for a few weeks.Your pet dog would start looking like a tasty meal as each day went by.I could say it very backward to eat your pet dog.You might even start eating each other as ye howled to Jesus Christ to save ye from the misery of it all.Even make all sorts of crazy promises.You wouldn't be laughing then.
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DanOLoingsigh | Mar 02, 2012, 04:47 PM EST
Nothing to do with NATO, Nothing to do with NATO,Nothing to do with NATO...DO YOU COPY...Nothing to do with NATO!!!!
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GeorgeDillon | Mar 02, 2012, 03:10 PM EST
OLOinsigh: So you were opposed to the NATO bombing campaign in Yugoslavia, which included the use of Cruise missiles, and killed many hundreds of civilians? And you supported the right of Serbs to self-determination and freedom? Well why didn't you say so? You really don't express yourself well, that's your misfortune.
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DanOLoingsigh | Mar 02, 2012, 01:53 PM EST
Di-loon - Who is the biggest jackass, YOU. Only an utter clown such as you would invent my love of Cruise missiles...crawl back into your hole, grab hold of your nuts, and give a big Yank!!!
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GeorgeDillon | Mar 02, 2012, 12:55 PM EST
OLOingsigh whines regularly on this site about Irish nationalists who wish to preserve an Irish national homeland. Yet it turns out he's a big supporter of violence. He loves bombs, as long as they are dropped from 30000 feet or come on Cruise missiles fired from 200 miles away. I thought the era of apologists for violence was winding down in Ireland, but there's still a few hold-out nuts.
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DanOLoingsigh | Mar 02, 2012, 12:30 PM EST
Di-loon did not take time to enquire on the chronology of 'conflict resolution' before launching into one of his typical diatribes...1994, Republika Srpska (The Serb enclave in Bosnia) was placed under UN Sanctions, following the Bosnian Serb shelling of many designated safe areas, 70 civilians were killed and over 130 injured. The Bosnian Serbs surrounded UNPROFOR (UN Protection Force) personnel in weapon collection points and detained 199, so they were unable to get out and see what was happening on the ground (despite having agreed to this previously). It was post THIS episode of the Balkan conflict, and at this it was a EU/UN project, nothing to do with NATO, and long before any NATO action. Di-loon doesn't seem to mind the huge number of inter-ethnic killings in former Yugoslavia...only the NATO actions are criticised...I wonder why?
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GeorgeDillon | Mar 02, 2012, 09:42 AM EST
OLooingsigh was he says involved in "post-conflict Rule of Law projects" in Yugoslavia. Maybe he should have brought some of his pseudo rule of law programs to NATO--they killed hundreds of civilians in their bombing campaign in Yugoslavia. Some rule of law.
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DanOLoingsigh | Mar 01, 2012, 06:43 PM EST
George - I don't claim to have been in Afghanistan...I say I have been there...just as I was in Iraq (UN Oil for Food Programme), Yugoslavia (UN/EU Sanctions on Republika Srpska), Kosovo (UNMIK). What was I involved in...post-conflict Rule of Law projects, such as training locals in counter-narcotic strategies...these are 'post-conflict' so trying to stabilise the country...I think this is a worthwhile aim...although it's a lot easier staying at home, and safer too!!!!
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sirpeter | Mar 01, 2012, 03:09 PM EST
Well Dano your comment below sounds plausible.Separating fact from fiction is the name of the game I guess.Cheers man
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