Time for Occupy Wall Street to leave, they are not the Tea Party
By: Ed Farnan | Published Tuesday, November 1, 2011, 7:08 PM | Updated Tuesday, November 1, 2011, 7:08 PM
No matter how you spin it, "Occupy Wall Street" is not comparable to a Tea party grass roots gathering. I have been listening lately to those on the left who say it is their version of the Tea Party, but as many see it ,there is no comparison.
The Tea Party has a clear unified message: Lower taxes and smaller government. It's not complicated and hard to figure out, you can ask almost any participant and you will get that same general answer.
When there is a Tea Party event, people gather at a place that does not interfere with the ongoing commerce and business of a city it is being held in. There are never any arrests and people are usually very respectful. At the end of the day they, clean up any trash that may have accumulated, return to their homes, take a shower and get on with their normal lives. Tea Party members made their voices heard at the voting booths by turning the elections on their head last November.
The only people the Tea party gatherings inconvenience are the Tea Party participants themselves, who have usually taken time off of work and traveled long distances at their own expense to attend these one day events.
But the citizens of New York are not seeing the respect from the Occupy Wall Street Crowd that they would expect from the Tea party. These "occupiers" are not here for the day to gather peacefully, make a statement and leave. They are camped out in the midst of the city and want to annoy, disrupt and inconvenience the citizens of New York city.
Their general beef seems to be that corporations are evil. They have some validity to the close ties between Wall Street and Washington DC. We get it, we want change too. But the core source of the problem is Washington DC and that's where the eye should be directed. Evidently many of them have the time and outside sources of income to hang out in the city for almost a month.
Along with the general message that corporations are evil, some are demanding free medical, free educations and a living wage of 20.00 per hr. whether working or not. Also heard is the demand of canceling out of their debts and raise taxes on the "rich".
Of course Michael Moore, Inc., champion of the poor and downtrodden, has been making appearances shaking his fist at the "rich" and leading the crowds with Marxist style chants. Does anyone in the crowd know that M. Moore, Inc. is worth about 53 million himself? That could pay for quite a few living wage jobs.
Fabulously wealthy, capitalist Russell Simmons, owner of several evil corporations himself, including a debit card company, was there to speechify and condemn the "greed'.
This demonstration could have accomplished in one day some attention and support. But it is now garnering resentment from the businesses and citizens of New York who are being displaced and damaged by this invasion and occupation of their city.
Who is supposed to be watching out for the citizens of New York City? Seems city officials think the occupiers"rights" are precious. How about demanding and making sure the occupiers show some respect and responsibility to go along with those "rights"? One way to show that is by leaving the city as they found it and going to their respective homes to work within our system for change, if they don't like the way things are. Responsibilities are supposed to march shoulder to shoulder with rights.
There is a forecast of rain, is that what it's going to take to release New Yorks citizens from being hostages? Or will the Mayor step up to the plate and protect the citizens of the city he has sworn to protect?
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Switch to the desktop site to post a comment.newnation | Nov 12, 2011, 08:17 PM EST
2bornot2b: your funny, go work for fox so we can laugh at you collectively.
2BorNot2B | Nov 09, 2011, 02:43 AM EST
No hateful signs at Zuccotti says TheOldF**t? He must have been too busy with the side show of rampant drug deals going on, with entwined heavily-tattooed bodies copulating in plain sight, with the sight of vile people defecating on top of squad cars. The poor man probably just got fuzzy-headed with the stench, equal parts urine, patchouli and body odor emanating from the filth produced by this rag-tag band of FLEA-BAGGERS he seems to admire. --- So.. how do you like the 'organic' movement (highly praised by Maobama and Pelousy) of those filthy anarchists now that they are burning up cities, obstructing law-enforcement, terrorizing vendors who refuse to feed them for free, closing up shipping ports, and vandalizing private property? -- Oh that the Tea Partiers would have the time to confront these Flea-baggers and teach them a lesson in civility!
2BorNot2B | Nov 09, 2011, 02:37 AM EST
Not the Tea Party? asks TheOldFartfessor -- and he answers his rhetorical question with an unqualified "You bet!" unwittingly recognizing there is no possible comparison between this motley crew of FLEA-BAGGERS, who are a mix of filthy vagrants, homeless runaways, drug dealers, 99ers, welfare queens, entitlement addicts, drug addled anarchists, agitators, Soros paid faux-'protestors' recruited through Craig's List, Mexican and South American illegals carrying signs they can't comprehend because they can't speak English, assorted union goons from SEIU, UAW, AFL-CIO, pony-tailed, white-maned, fat-gutted relics of the 60's protests trying to re-create 'the Summer of Love'.... vs. the the orderly, clean-shaven, patriotic, tax-paying law-abiding folks who gather to protest the mis-management, abuse of power and the intrusion into every aspect of our life by an administration that wants to tax the producers and creators to give to the takers. Typical lefty self-induced blindness.
2BorNot2B | Nov 09, 2011, 02:34 AM EST
Wow... McNam learned a new word: 'shill,' and she cannot seem to let the brain synapse that controls her fingers stop typing it! Someone help her, please!
maryo137 | Oct 20, 2011, 11:20 AM EDT
PRIVATE property in big letters says the RATMAN-You have no rights regarding private property-you are trespassers and are damaging private property. Go to where George Soros billionaire and agitator lives. Go the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac buildings and protest, they had a big part in all this.
maryo137 | Oct 20, 2011, 10:37 AM EDT
It amazes me that what you wrote isn't obvious to everyone. I would hope that the money raised by them, would be used to clean up and repair the damage to the park they are in.
McNamara31 | Oct 17, 2011, 08:07 PM EDT
2BorNot2B "shill"
2BorNot2B | Oct 17, 2011, 01:26 AM EDT
May I suggest a new name for the "Bravo" woman? How about Madame Defarge? She seems to be present at every left-wing extremist rally, and support every unhinged, bull-horn blaring pinko, such as the Ratslayer/Eater. ...... I have no doubt she would be manning the gillotine if the line to it included her favorite villains: Those whose capital creates jobs but don't belong to her political party, Joseph Ratzinger, Murdoch of course, and any FOX TV personality. Beware, this woman and her NeoComm- comrades have bloodlust.
ceceann | Oct 13, 2011, 05:49 PM EDT
@Ratslayer--you want IC to get rid of the only right minded blogger. How fair & balanced! Anyone who disgrees with your point of view s/b silenced! Your rant is long on name-calling and short of facts. Are you sure you are speaking for the majority? OWS should remember history. The protests in the 60's lead to the silent majority going to the polls & voting for those opposing the protests.
McNamara31 | Oct 13, 2011, 05:05 PM EDT
Ratslayer (Bravo!)
Ratslayer | Oct 13, 2011, 02:22 PM EDT
Why has IC allowed this right-wing fascist from California to spew lies about a city (my city) and it citizens he knows absolutely nothing about?? Ever the armchair blogger, Farnan is clearly uniformed about OWS (and most things) and no doubt he's getting his dis-info from dolts like Hannity and Malkin. The protestors are on PRIVATE property downtown and they aren't disrupting anyone or any business. They enjoy the blessing of Bloomberg and the vast majority of New Yorkers who consider the Tea Party a bloody joke and its puppet-master — The Wall Street Corptocracy fueled by Ayn Rand narcissistic greed and arrogance — the biggest threat to our livelihoods. Farnan I suggest you emerge from yer cave and come to NYC (the Real America) to see OWS with yer own eyes. You might actually learn something. Or are you just another tea-bagging coward?
Monsoonman | Oct 13, 2011, 01:56 PM EDT
LOL "The decision to export these jobs was made by corporate entities"....Who do you think made the laws that way? Who do you think forced the banks to make home loans to people that could never pay those loans back? And YOU put these same people on a pedestal...Go occupy Washington DC and stop blindly voting party line. Then you will see real change
McNamara31 | Oct 13, 2011, 01:23 PM EDT
Tedmiller (Bravo!!)
Tedmiller | Oct 13, 2011, 12:17 PM EDT
One in 6 Americans of working age is unemployed or underemployed because most textiles, bicycles, light bulbs, tools, shoes and electronics are no longer manufactured here. Most of them are manufactured in communist countries like China and Viet Nam. The decision to export these jobs was made by corporate entities. Congress paved the way by cutting tariffs and instituting and approving trade agreements. Look at the clothing you are wearing as you read this. How much of it was made in Communist China, Viet Nam, or other countries with cheap manufacturing.Making corporations and politicians accountable for the loss of American jobs, and reincorporating ethical behavior to corporate and government culture has nothing to do with socialism.
citizen69 | Oct 13, 2011, 12:10 PM EDT
So criticizing the government is American but criticizing the banks & corporations in anti-american?
McNamara31 | Oct 13, 2011, 12:00 PM EDT
TheOldPerfessor... I totally Agree. Isn't it amazing how quickly they all jumped to demean and discredit the protestors? So predictable. I wonder where they all were when the banking lobby spent 7 billion dollars to buy the policy and deregulations that brought on the collapse of 2008.It's sickening that when the Tea party showed up that was “framed” as "patriotic" and promoted nightly by Rupert’s bunch, however real protestors, many of them middle aged working people are smeared as malcontents.
stmungo | Oct 13, 2011, 11:28 AM EDT
Once again the "Far Right" is "Far Wrong".
Monsoonman | Oct 13, 2011, 11:27 AM EDT
LOL, the dogma here is mind numbing. Have you watched the rest of your peoples paradises around the world, one by one go down the toilet when they embrace green socialism? It's what happens when you vote in your corrupt lifetime politicians who promise you something for nothing and you blindky keep voting them back. Obama and his henchman are the biggest recipients of corp donations. Go to Washington and fix the problem, otherwise you are just a bunch of useful idiots
hollabackgurl | Oct 13, 2011, 11:18 AM EDT
The corporations are our government now and the Republican party are just their paid shills. The Tea Party is directing its fury at the wrong source. The Koch brothers bankrolled the Tea Party movement to confuse the uneducated about who's really pulling the stings. Follow the money, it's the first law of capitalism.
Monsoonman | Oct 13, 2011, 11:07 AM EDT
Looks like Bloomberg is finally going to have to come out of his hole. The Park owners want the place cleaned and everybody out so it can be cleaned. I dont think they want anymore gatherings on their property. Do you think the squatters will clean their mess up or is that type of work below them? Anybody care abt. the residents/business owners and workers who get assaulted by all of this?
TheOldPerfessor | Oct 13, 2011, 07:02 AM EDT
Not the Tea Party? You bet. I've visited Zuccotti park several times and did not see any signs with messages of hate. One extremist was standing on a soap box reading from the Constitution. People there represented more than one race. Just a bunch of people exercising their constitutional rights. That must be tough for you to watch.
merefalow | Oct 13, 2011, 06:48 AM EDT
they should do what the russians did in the revolution before they became corrupt ,clean up the whole rotten sleasy palm greasing neo com militaristic country invading killing machine..
merefalow | Oct 13, 2011, 06:33 AM EDT
Apparently, you need to learn the definition of "occupy" and the concept of sit-ins...
merefalow | Oct 13, 2011, 02:30 AM EDT
The "Tea Party" folks tend to blame all of the ills of our modern society on "the government" and seek to rectify everything during the current president's term, regardless of the social repercussions. The "Occupiers" tend to blame the big corporations who have outsourced "American"jobs to overseas location, and threaten to withold hold American jobs hostage until the government capitulates to them by changing corporate tax structure and emasculating environmental protection. Corporate goals have shifted from helping the local community to short term maximization of shareholder's profits, even though it their actions may eventually destroy the corporation, as well as local communities.