Gerry Adams says British still have illegal, immoral and illegitimate claim to part of Ireland
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One thing you can say about Gerry Adams, is that he has an unshakable and fierce determination to see the peace process through to create a new and united Irish Republic. There is nothing he is not well informed about when it comes to the Good Friday Agreement and the infrastructure built around it. He speaks with surety and a certain steel tone when he voices his view for the future of Ireland and doesn't mince words when he expresses his feelings regarding the fairness of what unification will bring to the people of Ireland
In this the third segment of my interview with Gerry Adams we talk about the future of Ireland's reunification and how his political party, Sinn Fein, meaning "we ourselves," is gaining more popularity.
Sinn Fein is gaining greater power in Ireland, polls show it is the 2nd most popular political party at this time. I asked Gerry what his opinion of that was: "Opinion polls are opinion polls," he stated. "They are only a snapshot in time, the poll that really counts is the one on election day." He went on to say: "We (Sinn Fein) see our way as a better path for the people of Ireland, particularly our ideas to help the economy which is flat at this time."
Gerry said: "We see the current government, as not much different from what they replaced, same basic economic policies which are hurting the middle and lower classes disproportionately." You can't cut your way out of a recession, you must grow your way out." "The current government is spending a tiny fraction on job creation and stimulus, yet at the same time paying billions to bondholders of banks....banks whose actions could be described as criminal."
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Read parts 1 & 2 here:
From soldier to statesman, Gerry Adams made his mark
The US civil rights movement inspired Gerry Adams
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He told me: "Sinn Fein has brought forth proposals to reduce the deficit, which don't include the dire consequences to the most vulnerable in our society" Gerry then went on to describe a very evocative scene which occurred a couple of weeks ago at expos for employment abroad in Dublin and Cork: " Ed, it was sad to see the thousands of mostly young, well educated, trained Irish people, having to leave the country in order to get work. We have seen this too often in our past-we need them here at home." I told Gerry that's why my family left and came to the States for a better life and to get work.
Then we talked about the future of Ireland and the chances of getting north and south united again. "Getting rid of partition is a good and patriotic thing to do. The British still have an illegal, immoral and illegitimate claim to part of Ireland," he said "I believe we can have Irish Unity in our time." "We have transcended partition, not entirely, but by the infrastructure of the Good Friday Agreement we are getting closer. When a majority of the people wish for unity it will happen."
To illuminate some of the great sea change happening in Ireland, he shared that he was "quite taken by a Sinn Fein event last month in Derry". "A Unionist speaker was invited to attend and in the audience were up to 200 from the unionist movement, it was all very peaceful and respectful"...."Ed, you couldn't have imagined that sort of thing happening 5-10 years ago in the mood and spirit this was conducted. "The more we do of this the better for all."
But Gerry said "the Diaspora have a huge roll to play in all of this." This island's in transition, the south because of its economic condition and the north because of the peace process, we're looking for a way forward and the Diaspora can help." "There was never a time when Republican policies are more needed than now."
Gerry said: "The great Patriot Theobald Wolfe Tone believed in the unity of Catholic and Protestant together in the center" Then Gerry finished with: "We want a new Republic, a new Ireland where people can travel by choice-not forced. We want rights and entitlements that all free countries have. But we must have unification so we can have our Republic."
I asked Gerry about his past and the tumultuous occurrences and tragedies, if he had the chance would he have made the same choices. We'll get his answer in the final upcoming segment
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In this the third segment of my interview with Gerry Adams we talk about the future of Ireland's reunification and how his political party, Sinn Fein, meaning "we ourselves," is gaining more popularity.
Sinn Fein is gaining greater power in Ireland, polls show it is the 2nd most popular political party at this time. I asked Gerry what his opinion of that was: "Opinion polls are opinion polls," he stated. "They are only a snapshot in time, the poll that really counts is the one on election day." He went on to say: "We (Sinn Fein) see our way as a better path for the people of Ireland, particularly our ideas to help the economy which is flat at this time."
Gerry said: "We see the current government, as not much different from what they replaced, same basic economic policies which are hurting the middle and lower classes disproportionately." You can't cut your way out of a recession, you must grow your way out." "The current government is spending a tiny fraction on job creation and stimulus, yet at the same time paying billions to bondholders of banks....banks whose actions could be described as criminal."
--------------------------
Read parts 1 & 2 here:
From soldier to statesman, Gerry Adams made his mark
The US civil rights movement inspired Gerry Adams
-----------------------------
He told me: "Sinn Fein has brought forth proposals to reduce the deficit, which don't include the dire consequences to the most vulnerable in our society" Gerry then went on to describe a very evocative scene which occurred a couple of weeks ago at expos for employment abroad in Dublin and Cork: " Ed, it was sad to see the thousands of mostly young, well educated, trained Irish people, having to leave the country in order to get work. We have seen this too often in our past-we need them here at home." I told Gerry that's why my family left and came to the States for a better life and to get work.
Then we talked about the future of Ireland and the chances of getting north and south united again. "Getting rid of partition is a good and patriotic thing to do. The British still have an illegal, immoral and illegitimate claim to part of Ireland," he said "I believe we can have Irish Unity in our time." "We have transcended partition, not entirely, but by the infrastructure of the Good Friday Agreement we are getting closer. When a majority of the people wish for unity it will happen."
To illuminate some of the great sea change happening in Ireland, he shared that he was "quite taken by a Sinn Fein event last month in Derry". "A Unionist speaker was invited to attend and in the audience were up to 200 from the unionist movement, it was all very peaceful and respectful"...."Ed, you couldn't have imagined that sort of thing happening 5-10 years ago in the mood and spirit this was conducted. "The more we do of this the better for all."
But Gerry said "the Diaspora have a huge roll to play in all of this." This island's in transition, the south because of its economic condition and the north because of the peace process, we're looking for a way forward and the Diaspora can help." "There was never a time when Republican policies are more needed than now."
Gerry said: "The great Patriot Theobald Wolfe Tone believed in the unity of Catholic and Protestant together in the center" Then Gerry finished with: "We want a new Republic, a new Ireland where people can travel by choice-not forced. We want rights and entitlements that all free countries have. But we must have unification so we can have our Republic."
I asked Gerry about his past and the tumultuous occurrences and tragedies, if he had the chance would he have made the same choices. We'll get his answer in the final upcoming segment
The most unique gifts: Time capsules in American and world history: lifemagforsale.
For other points of view visit Carroll Standard: carrollstandard.com
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DanOLoingsigh | Apr 12, 2012, 01:35 AM EDT
Pols have to recant some of their fine words when they 'get in' and see the books...imo taxes are the price we pay for a decent society...don't forget, in Mayo its nearly always raining!!
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sirpeter | Apr 11, 2012, 11:10 PM EDT
I agree he appears to be doing his best.But will it be enough.He might be an honest man.But this honest man said in 1994 it was immoral to tax a mans home.Now he has changed his mind.A man has to stand by his word.He is just a liar too.I'm sick of the lies Dano.I don't mind lies that are hidden.But they can't just piss down my back and tell me it's raining.
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DanOLoingsigh | Apr 11, 2012, 04:19 PM EDT
I don't think he's done too bad, given the hand he was dealt...I think he's an honest man, trying his best...which is a lot more than can be said for some other prominent political sons of Castlebar...no names, of course...
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sirpeter | Apr 11, 2012, 03:08 PM EDT
We didn't have any as far as I know.FF under Jack Lynch in 1977 was the last one I think.I'd have to look it up.I agree if things don't get extremely bad it's unlikely SF would get an overall majority.They might become the largest party though.The way I see it if it all goes pear shaped for FG/LAB which could easily happen because in fairness they are going to have to make huge cuts everywhere.A lot depends on the economy in Europe as well.But from what I can see SF are positioned nicely in opposition at the moment.I could see a SF lead coalition with FF.Constant criticism is the price you pay for been in power.How SF do in power is another matter.But look at the guys we have now.Not great are they.
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DanOLoingsigh | Apr 11, 2012, 02:10 PM EDT
Sirpete - I didn't say small, but there is a constituency who will never give them a preference...I agree it will get smaller in time, as old memories fade, and alternatives fail...but will be a factor for a long time...under the current system overall majorities are hard to achieve...how many have we had in the last 25 years? and SF will find the real world a difficult place, if and when...opposition parties have the luxury of constant criticism, governing parties have to make hard choices...
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sirpeter | Apr 10, 2012, 08:45 PM EDT
Dano I think you might be hoping SF have a very small finite limit.The question that has to be asked is could SF get an overall majority in the Dáil.Thinking about this carefully I actually believe they could.Here are the reasons why that might happen.1/Austerity is likely to continue which means people are not going to forgive FF for the mess they created.2/The general consensus is FG/LAB are continuing the policies of FF.3/Austerity in the true sense of the word has not hit the vast majority of people yet.4/Cutting Irelands high welfare benefits is on the cards and this is going to make a huge amount of people very angry including the middle class.5/Irish voters don't punish political parties by half measures when they get angry.6/Options for the people on who to vote for is narrowing.7/The general consensus in Ireland is SF have very good politicians.8/The general consensus in Ireland is that FF/FG/LAB are all useless politicians.9/Fiscal union if passed will act as a safety net for those who fear SF financial policies.10/If things get really bad and people start taking to the streets though (and this is true)the Irish are very slow to anger.But when they do all hell can break loose.The mighty SF political machine (the grudging envy of even the Unionists) won't miss that chance if it comes their way.The trend is people young and old are openly saying they admire SF and will vote for them without embarrassment.And these are middle class people and not the sh*tkickers of old.
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seanomelb | Apr 10, 2012, 07:13 PM EDT
Falls I could not care less if GA was in the PIRA,personally I think he was. The PIRA is no longer a part of the GFA agreement as it no longer exists, it handed in it's weapons to De Chastelain and disbanded. As for OFA it disbanded through lack of support and changed it's name to the Workers Party and disappeared into the ether, the Irish have never had large support for communist ideals. you write as if the PIRA was a separate political party which is ridiculous. Clinging to falsehoods to prove your argument is futile and counter productive. BTW I was in Sinn Fein in the early sixties when the Marxist took over only in time to fail.
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FallsRNat | Apr 10, 2012, 03:49 PM EDT
seano - youse totally misunderstand any opposition to your point of view, nobody is against PIRA being in the peace process as long as they are committed to peace by totally exclusive means, i'm afraid that sirpeter's denial of gerry adams being in PIRA does stretch the truth a little too far - even if you exclude all of the PIRA exiles who have stated that he was a provie, there are still such as Copeland, Gillen who have stated that it was true. I suppose in sirpeter's argument below when he expounds the lamentable behaviour of 65% of his countrymen in voting for parties opposed to PIRA he casts doubt on the exclusiveness of his free state where i assume only 35% of his favoured population would be allowed to vote. The last time that SF & the IRA were separate organisations was under the Officials & i can speak from experience as a former member of OSF. A pre-requisite of joining the provies was that to be a member of PSF, youse also had to be a member of PIRA as the last thing the military wing of PIRA needed was the rug pulled from under their feet by their political wing making deals with either government, that's why anybody connected with the republican movemen knows that GA was in PIRA.
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DanOLoingsigh | Apr 10, 2012, 03:37 PM EDT
Seano now says he supports the GFA – How does he square this with his ‘Adams sold out and diminished the cause’ post?
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DanOLoingsigh | Apr 10, 2012, 03:36 PM EDT
Sirpete - there is a very finite limit to the SF vote, as many will never give them a vote...that's not to say they won't get enough to be in coalition...and that's when they will face the realities of dealing with the the day-to-day grind of practical politics...as they have had to up north, to a lesser extent...
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sirpeter | Apr 10, 2012, 01:45 PM EDT
Ah! But that's not the way some posters see it.Been the the second biggest on the island make no difference.In their minds a vote for any other party is a vote AGAINST Sinn Fein.
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Monsoonman | Apr 10, 2012, 12:30 PM EDT
True Sean..SF is the # 2 political party on the Island and could become # 1 if the rate of growth keeps up. They have the right to speak for their constituency and persuade others to come to their way of thinking...Peacefully
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seanomelb | Apr 09, 2012, 10:40 PM EDT
The problem with discussing any way forward with some posters is difficult Mman as they do not understand that Sinn Fein should be part of the process.They grudgingly accepted the GFA.
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sirpeter | Apr 09, 2012, 08:54 PM EDT
I agree with you totally Monsoonman
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