Rachel Corrie honors Irish history, while Israel forgets its own
By: Father TIm | Published Friday, December 21, 2012, 5:38 PM | Updated Friday, December 21, 2012, 5:38 PM

My friends,
When I think of an Irish ship on the sea filled with supplies for the needy, one image that does
NOT come to mind is the picture of hundreds of ships from Ireland — then in the grip of The Great Hunger — sailing to England, the author of her agony, brimming with fresh cattle, sheep and dairy products meant for the fattened animals known as the English.
Since I do not believe our Loving Father deals in chance or coincidence, I think it no coincidence that the Irish flag ship Rachel Corrie is trying to deliver emergency aid to the impoverished residents of the Gaza Strip at precisely the moment we Irish recall the anniversary of An Gorta Mor.
Cecil Woodham-Smith, an authority on the Irish Famine, wrote in "The Great Hunger; Ireland 1845–1849," that no issue has provoked so much anger and embittered relations between England and Ireland as "the indisputable fact that huge quantities of food were exported from Ireland to England throughout the period when the people of Ireland were dying of starvation." Ireland remained a leading exporter of food to England throughout most of the five-year Famine.
Christine Kinealy, a University of Liverpool fellow and author of two texts on the famine, "Irish Famine: This Great Calamity" and "A Death-Dealing Famine," writes that Irish exports of calves, livestock (except pigs), bacon and ham actually increased during the Famine. The food was shipped under guard from the most Famine-stricken parts of Ireland. However, the poor Irish had no money to buy food."
The current — and excellent — edition of Irish America magazine (IrishCentral's sister publication) is devoted to an outstanding remembrance of the Famine, which you can read by clicking here. Unflinching and honest to a fault, it tells not only of the venom, hatred and prejudice that doomed millions of Irish, but to those good and noble hearts around the world who would not sit idly while a nation perished.
The Famine is rightly considered not only a human holocaust, but the birth of a special Irish spirit — perhaps a rebel spirit in that it would not accept double standards and double-dealing — that in many ways is alive and well today. I believe that even the uprising that has turned an Irish Cardinal's red hat into a scarlet letter and toppled the judgmental, all-powerful Irish Catholic Church from its self-made pedestal of power into "the defendant," is another expression of that spirit.
Which brings us to a modern-day Irish ship bobbing on the seas, the Rachel Corrie. It too is filled with Irish rebels, including Nobel Prize laureate Mairead Maguire, who insist on the right to deliver humanitarian supplies to the war-torn Gaza Strip. The Irish Government stands with them, and has attempted to negotiate these perilous waters with the government of Israel, which after much saber-rattling and threats of harm, is working on a compromise that the crew of the Rachel Corrie may or may not accept.
Ireland's most senior Catholic cleric, Cardinal Sean Brady, on Friday called for Israel to lift its military blockade of Gaza. The Primate of All-Ireland urged countries around the world to ensure international law is upheld by all parties in the region.
The Cardinal offered prayers for the families and friends of the nine Turks killed by Israeli commandos on an aid boat Monday.
"I deeply regret the loss of life and injury resulting from Israel's military takeover in international waters of the flotilla of humanitarian aid to Gaza this week," Brady said, mincing no words.
"Such loss of life is tragic and the violence associated with these events is reprehensible. It is clear that it is now time to lift the blockade on Gaza."
Brady, who visited Gaza in 2008, said he had been deeply moved by the "dire and unnecessary situation of human deprivation and need" in the terrorist Hamas stronghold.
It is said that man for man, Israel has the best fighting army in the world. Which, sadly, means that Israel is the most-frightened nation in the world. There is, of course, no shortage of people to fear in the "Holy Land," and historically, hard-line military policies are all that has "worked" for Israel in this bottle of scorpions.
The Shoah — the beyond-all-evil Nazi Holocaust that saw millions of Jews and others exterminated — was a monstrous moment in history that just keeps on "giving" — both for the good and the bad.
Instilling in the Jews the iron determination that "never again" would the horror of the Holocaust be permitted to happen, they built a democratic state of their own, a sanctuary in the Holy Land. But in fortifying themselves against the evil of history, have they also forgotten the good?
Hundreds of thousands of people liberated the Jews from Hitler's camps, tried the remaining evil-doers, and helped build the Jewish state — a state that did not exist in the camps, but which was certainly born there. The Jews know better than anyone on the planet what being a prisoner of war is, and what a holy thing an act of bravery and generosity is. Or do they? This is their moment to answer.
Tonight, let us pray that the Jewish people, so horribly abused throughout centuries, will also see the light of decency and goodness in their history, and in their hearts. We are only
secure when we are in harmony with God's Own Will.
His Will be done.
God bless you all!
— Father Tim
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Switch to the desktop site to post a comment.downinthebasement | Nov 11, 2010, 07:06 PM EST
Father Tim... I don't think you should torment Israel... By singling out Israel for condemnation...it doesn't bring about a peaceful resolution... Why not condemn Hamas which gets its money from Saudi Arabia and Iran...? Why not condemn Syria which funds Hezbollah and other terror groups? I say...it takes two to tango...don't be selective in condemning Israel...
Monsoonman | Jul 08, 2010, 10:30 AM EDT
Hamas & Hezbollah are tied at the hip and one and the same, both supported by iran...But even CNN has their limits:CNN Editor Fired for Saying She Has "Respect" for Hezbollah Lowlife..CNN has fired senior editor of Middle East affairs Octavia Nasr. Nasr wrote on......July 4, that she was "sad" to hear of the death of Hezbollah's Sayyed Mohammad Hussein Fadlallah--a man for whom she has "respect." ***Fadlallah had justified suicide bombings, is believed to be responsible for the Marine barracks bombing..
Monsoonman | Jul 08, 2010, 12:57 AM EDT
Shuvonn, I just thought you, Sean, McBro and I could golf together and discuss this mideast situation in person. I am sure we could come up with a solution to these and other world problems....BTW: Have you heard the latest? Iran has banned the mullet hairdo in their country. Today Kentucky has broken off all diplomatic relations with Iran....Oh why are you on this re-educate binge? I never said that...My evidence of Iran evil? Bullet holes.
shuvonn | Jul 07, 2010, 09:54 PM EDT
SO you have NO proof that Iran is providing the financial backing for the free Gaza movement, I thought so. Do you advocate the same treatment as Gaza for anyone who voted for Obama? Perhaps we should re-educate them too eh? Perhaps the people of Gaza are too busy trying to find food for their family, standing in line to work on their olive farms and having to go through that security check points through that wall onto land that was once theirs. Food and shelter is a priority which is denied by the banning of goods by Israel. You got your own little Chinese or Iranian thing going here, punish those that disagree with ya. You DO know it is illegal to level collective punishment on a population? Yet YOU advocate that AND re-education of people who disagree with you, a little disturbing, I thought that people were entitled to express their opinions in American society. I come from a golfing family but I do not golf myself, my father was president of a golf club and my sister in law was lady captain of one the same year, my brother and nephews do also. Oh and by the way I do some letter writing for Amnesty International, I wrote three today, one to prevent the bulldozing of a school in Jahalin, one to allow access to Gilad Shilat the Israeli soldier taken hostage years ago and the last to demand a fair and unbiased investigation into the Gaza Flotilla killings. But I suppose you consider ME a useful idiot too :-)
Monsoonman | Jul 07, 2010, 08:07 PM EDT
Come on Shuvonn: Lets take a look at WHY Israel has to build security walls? You do know the incidents of suicide bombings have dropped 90% since those walls have been erected...Until the gazans throw off their terrorist masters they shouldn't expect to be treated as a civillized society. Get rid of hamas and the rest of the criminals and elect a Ghandi figure you would see the world rush to their side, the Israelis too. Do you golf by the way?
shuvonn | Jul 07, 2010, 07:56 AM EDT
What is sinister is the *idiots* that play hard, fast and loose with facts. Have NOTHING to back up and prove their lies. And you have called Noam Chomsky, Hedy Epstein, Bishop Tutu *useful idiots* And when I was asked for proof of the disgusting behavior of the IDF members who murdered the flotilla members of their ally Turkey in International waters and then STOLE and used their credit cards, I provided it, when the first source was belittled I provided another, you dropped that like a hot potato and never commented on it. Yes I agree there was NO defense for that,and you had NONE. I ask for sources and proof of your allegations of sinister organizations, you have NOTHING.
Monsoonman | Jul 07, 2010, 01:05 AM EDT
Code pink is involved in the "peace" flotilla. Like I said the whole movement is rife with useful idiots.
shuvonn | Jul 06, 2010, 07:46 PM EDT
So NOW you want to accuse Noam Chomsky, Jeff Halper, Hedy Epstein, Bishop Tutu as being involved with organizations that are being funded by Iran? You DO know they are involved with Free Gaza Movement. And your SOURCE and PROOF of such accusations are? Do you REALLY want to call Bishop Tutu AND Hedy Epstein who is a holocaust survivor as useful idiots? And the Rachel Corrie sailed under the free gaza movement name, do you really want to accuse those on board as being funded by Iran, do you REALLY want to do that WITHOUT PROOF? Do you want to call European members of Parliament on board that flotilla useful idiots? What takes on a whole NEW meaning is someone who does very little research on topics, does not back up the loose and fast allegations they make about people and yes I KNOW all about following the money, how many BILLIONS does the US give to Israel yearly? The billions that the state of Israel NEEDS to survive? How many petro dollars do ya think it takes to forge Irish passports and fund a murder in UAE? How many petro dollars does it take to defend the Israeli soldiers who LIE about their actions in Gaza last year? Or to defend the IDF members who stole credit cards from Palestinian families, or the credit cards that were stolen from the flotilla members? YEAH, I follow the money, and its sickening to be honest....
Monsoonman | Jul 04, 2010, 12:37 PM EDT
In a world of sinister organizations tagged with benign sounding names such as "Free Gaza, etc., "useful idiot" takes on a whole new meaning. When you trace their money to its source, it is always iranian/jihady petro dollars funding them....always, follow the money.
shuvonn | Jul 03, 2010, 05:52 PM EDT
I can almost hear the yelling from here....:-) Israels blockade on Gaza is ILLEGAL. FACT!
Monsoonman | Jul 01, 2010, 11:47 PM EDT
Is it "legal" in your world Shuvonn, for a governments charter hamas, (its actual main reason for its existence), being the annihilation of a country?...IS THAT LEGAL SHUVOnN!!!!!!!!!
shuvonn | Jul 01, 2010, 11:46 AM EDT
The Israelis are practicing illegal economic warfare on Gaza.
Monsoonman | Jun 30, 2010, 07:23 PM EDT
Did you know it is stated in the Hamas charter their goal is the complete and utter destruction of Israel? Do you know who has complete political and military control of Gaza? Hamas.
shuvonn | Jun 30, 2010, 06:54 PM EDT
Did you know that the state of israel had to be taken to court by an Israeli aid agency Gisha in January 2010 because they refused to reveal the list of banned goods into Gaza. Israeli human rights organization Gisha, the Legal Center for Freedom of Movement, obtained an Israeli government document which says "A country has the right to decide that it chooses not to engage in economic relations or to give economic assistance to the other party to the conflict, or that it wishes to operate using 'economic warfare,' ".[78] Sari Bashi, the director of Gisha, said that this shows that Israel isn't imposing its blockade for its stated reasons of a security measure to prevent weapons from entering Gaza, but rather as collective punishment for the Palestinian population of Gaza. And NOW Israel is planning to take measures against people who take part in ANY boycott of Isrealis products, so do as I say, not as I do? How hypocritical of Isreal, but TYPICAL.
Monsoonman | Jun 23, 2010, 09:59 AM EDT
Yes Israel, don't forget: Inspect all cargo and goods being shipped into Gaza, make sure they contain no rockets or weapons of mass destruction.
barneyjo | Jun 22, 2010, 07:04 PM EDT
If we forget where we have come from, then we forget who we are; Israel take note!!
Monsoonman | Jun 21, 2010, 10:19 AM EDT
Hows that international condemnation influencing those mullahs in Tehran?
maireadinmelb | Jun 21, 2010, 05:19 AM EDT
Practicalities are not a strong point with you are they? Did you notice that Israel says it will now publish a list of what can and cannot cross the border, rather than assessing each package at teh border and leaving it up to the army! THat is progress!! Only a little bit, but international condemnation may finally be influencing those in Tel aviv!!
Monsoonman | Jun 20, 2010, 12:49 PM EDT
But dear Sis: Don't you think you are jumping the gun a bit? Flying off the handle? It would be far better if the president appointed a blue ribbon panel and a Gaza Czar to get all of the facts first. First thing: establish a commission to determine who should be on the blue ribbon panel and who should be the new Czar, staffed by those that are agreed upon by all interested parties. Once everything is in place and the Czar and commission has determined the root causes of the strife in the middle east.
maireadinmelb | Jun 20, 2010, 05:49 AM EDT
No a speech and an investigation will not solve it isn't that all they did in 1938? The international community needs to stand up to Israel and say they disagree instead of enabling Israel's anti social and illegal behaviour!
shuvonn | Jun 19, 2010, 11:14 AM EDT
Yes, I think twit all the time when I see some of the responses on here....
Monsoonman | Jun 18, 2010, 08:07 PM EDT
Shuvonn, mazeltoff! & kudos to ye fer the succinct reply. Just think twitter when you feel the urge to extrapolate next time (:....& Sister Mairead, I would have obama appoint a middle east czar to study the situation, then I would have obama make a speech on it that should solve all of the strife.
manymoons2 | Jun 17, 2010, 02:28 PM EDT
Amen and amen. Better to tie a milestone around ones own neck & cast oneself into the sea then to hurt one of these "my little ones"....how much more evil to harm others when compassion is so desperately apparent and needed....we are all God's children, his little ones. May we all learn his sharing/loving spirit and be so ourselves. Thank you for your thoughts Father Tim. Taeri
maireadinmelb | Jun 15, 2010, 06:42 AM EDT
Anyway if we follow your advice monsoonman we would ignore teh actions of Israel and let another group of humans be persecuted and murdered like back in the thirties and forties! I prefer prevention!!
maireadinmelb | Jun 15, 2010, 06:41 AM EDT
I dont care where the weapons come from it is those who choose to pull the trigger that concern me. AND whilst I do not like to israelis killed either the government has the POWER to do something and take another course of action - so far it talks on way and acts another!!
shuvonn | Jun 14, 2010, 08:55 PM EDT
I am sorry I would not take you up on that wager. Let's just order you that label maker, ya seem to need it to function ;-)
Monsoonman | Jun 14, 2010, 09:36 AM EDT
I'll make a little wager with the enablers on this board. I'll bet that if the rockets, bombs and attacks on israel ceased, there wouldn't be any rockets, bombs or attacks on Gaza. Wanna make that bet? I'll even make another bet. If Israel stopped retaliating for being attacked, that the rockets bombs and attacks from gaza would continue anyway. Wanna make that bet too?...One more: If Israel gave back all land it seized as a result of being invaded by its neighbors, attacks and violence would still rain down on Israel anyway.
shuvonn | Jun 14, 2010, 06:27 AM EDT
Monsoon: Again ONLY worried about the rockets INTO Israel? Do you KNOW who provides the rockets used to kill Palestinian women and children in GAZA? Nah I supposed you DON'T want to know what, they do not count to you. Again with the labeling? We should get you a Label maker :-) You could have some REAL fun with that.
maireadinmelb | Jun 14, 2010, 02:29 AM EDT
Monsoonman aren't we all related as the brotherhood of man. We all have red blood coursing through our veins we all need food and water, we all need protection from cold and heat! Israelis could also be considered terrorists when they continue to break international law in an effort to push their own political view on others. and the more they continue this behaviour the more terrorists it creates in Gaza! Look at what we all should have learned in Ireland over the last 40 years. According to TP Coogan, the biggest recruitment days in IRA history were the days after internment, Bloody SUnday and during the hunger strike. When Government attempting to control people through oppressive and violent means! Israel should heed the lessons of the 20th century!
Monsoonman | Jun 13, 2010, 11:21 PM EDT
jihadists are jihadists shuvonn, You do know that Iran is the major funder and provider of weapons including rockets used to kill Israeli women and children to Hamas....You do know that shuvonn?
shuvonn | Jun 13, 2010, 05:01 PM EDT
No fan of Iran, in fact had I been in Dublin yesterday I would have been at the GPO at the Vigil in support of prisoners of conscience in Iran. You are only critical of the rockets INTO Israel and applaud the ones into Gaza. What a sick person you are. Please do NOT presume to tell me how much I can or cannot write, you are really are a little control freak.
Monsoonman | Jun 12, 2010, 10:09 AM EDT
One or two sentence would have been fine Shuvonn, seems the shanty irish who run I.C. are skinflints and bandwidth to them is a finite resource. But I see there is a new meaning to PASSOVER in Israel: Saudi Arabia has given the Israeli AF passover clearance in order to bomb Iranian nukuler sites. Can't wait to hear you defend the iranian mullahs and their fierce defense of womens rights to remain barefoot and pregnant.
shuvonn | Jun 12, 2010, 09:15 AM EDT
And the Self defense that you think Israel has the right to have is not afforded to Palestinians in your opinion. Why do ONLY the rockets INTO Israel count and the ones into Gaza are self defense in your eyes? So ONLY one side is allowed to defend itself? The ONE side with more money, MORE weapons, and the one side that takes their land and builds illegal settlements on it, the one side acting on behalf of Israeli's. The Aid into Gaza is down 75% since the illegal blockade. The list of banned supplies is long and ridiculous, crayons, chocolate, paper etc are all banned goods. This is reminiscent of the Warsaw Ghettos, so what was done to them is no being done BY them to others. Any honest evaluation (IF you are capable of same) would tell YOU that. Israel DID have an ally in the ME and they just murdered 8 of their citizens and 1 US citizen, hows THAT for winning friend and influencing people? It's a bit RICH to be complaining that they are surrounded by enemies when YOU created those very enemies yourself...
Monsoonman | Jun 11, 2010, 10:47 PM EDT
Maireadinmelb: Do you have a relative by the name of Sean? Or perhaps an alter ego named Sean? What you call "extreme zionism" is called self defense. Truthfully nothing less than the total extinction or total expulsion of all Jews from the middle east will satisfy hamas/jihadis. Any honest evaluation of the situation will tell you that.
maireadinmelb | Jun 11, 2010, 06:44 PM EDT
what about extreme zionism - it goes both ways??
Monsoonman | Jun 11, 2010, 10:03 AM EDT
Israel has the rabid wolf by the ears, it can't let go unless someone inoculates the wolf (exterminates jihadism)
maireadinmelb | Jun 11, 2010, 08:12 AM EDT
Israel by building more and more settlements is taking as much land as it is giving - once again Israel says one thing while it does the opposite! the Old do as I say not as I do!! Suicide bombers are generally not crazy - but desperate for change that they cannot obtain by democratic means- look how long it took in Ireland
Monsoonman | Jun 10, 2010, 11:46 PM EDT
Israel has given up land for peace and the result has been closer bases for missile launches. The days of the terrorists spraying Israeli restaurants and stores with bullets to slaughter innocents has stopped because many Israelis are armed, they shoot back now. The suicide bombings have been largely stopped by the building of walls to keep the crazies out.
maireadinmelb | Jun 09, 2010, 12:28 AM EDT
Just because millions of people share one religion does not mean they all think the same. Look at Father Tim here and the article last month about the nun that was ex communicated. All one religion all different views to the one issue!!
maireadinmelb | Jun 09, 2010, 12:27 AM EDT
If there was an acceptance by Israel of an independent Palestinian state there would compromise too!! Compromise takes 2 sides giving in not an expectation that one gives in while the other continues to contradict their words with their actions, ie building more and more housing in palestinian areas!
Monsoonman | Jun 09, 2010, 12:21 AM EDT
Is Iran desperate? Is Syria? I am talking about a religion that is spawning violence, gaza is symptomatic of that religion. If there was an acceptance by the hardliners/mullahs for israels existence there would be no problems
maireadinmelb | Jun 08, 2010, 07:56 PM EDT
But the actions of Israel point to a form of Genocide, it one reads the UN covenant in relation to genocide. They are separating and starving a group in a ghetto situation. Desperate people will do desperate things!
Monsoonman | Jun 08, 2010, 01:01 PM EDT
maireadinmelb: You are right the vilence has to stop and no one would like that more than me. The jihadists have to be marginalized and cast out by the peaceful muslims. they must accept Israels presence in the middle east and guarantee her security. After all who is calling for the extermination of anybody? Not Israel.
maireadinmelb | Jun 08, 2010, 05:14 AM EDT
Monsoonman, it is not just about remembering history it is about learning from history! Persecuting a group based on their religion has caused too many wars so instead of guns why not use discussion, patience, tolerance and understanding!! I am not trying to tell you how to live, but if you use violence and oppression as tactics, dont be surprised when people fight back!!
PHPEARSE | Jun 07, 2010, 02:21 PM EDT
"It is said that man for man, Israel has the best fighting army in the world" Really? Who says? Beating up people in Gaza is not exactly something that needs a lot of courage (but the Israelis do fill their officers' chests with uniforms for just that).
Monsoonman | Jun 07, 2010, 10:25 AM EDT
and Father Tim, have you noticed yet the oxymoronic title of your piece? The Jews have forgotten their history? Isn't this what it's all about: The Jews do remember their history and the attempted extermination against them and have said never again. They will not be lead like sheep to the slaughter this time.
Monsoonman | Jun 07, 2010, 10:20 AM EDT
LOL another lawyer inflicting us with how we are supposed to think and live. So now it's habeas corpus for battlefield pow's eh counselor? I can just see our troops subponaed off the battlefield to testify in court where perfumed princes rule, against enemy combatants captured. I have a better idea, less patent leather(lawyers) and more Patton. Take no prisoners, less paperwork that way.
maireadinmelb | Jun 07, 2010, 04:23 AM EDT
And I proudly would - As a lawyer I have a fundamental believe in separation of powers between the judiciary and the government AND that no PERSON be imprisoned without charge or conviction!! Basics of democracy actually - Your right wing lock em up attitude is almost STALINESQUE!!
irishwxman | Jun 06, 2010, 05:46 PM EDT
Wow...Mairead just let her true colors show. I'm sure they wouldn't mind you going down to gitmo and protesting on behalf of the terrorists.
Monsoonman | Jun 06, 2010, 12:24 PM EDT
Father Tim: Even your Boss recognizes the plight of "nonbelievers" in the middle east:In his final Mass in Cyprus on Sunday, Benedict said he was praying that the October meeting will focus the attention of the international community "on the plight of those Christians in the Middle East who suffer for their beliefs."...It's REAL bad for Christians and much much worse for Jews, eh?...Listen to your boss, instead of the deathwish left. The Pope is right in this instance.
Monsoonman | Jun 06, 2010, 12:11 PM EDT
Furthermore when will "peaceful" muslims renounce the jihadists who shelter amongst them? When will the "peaceful" muslims capture and incarcerate the terrorists in their midst? I will believe there is a change in this religion when they serve up osama bin laden to international authorities.
Monsoonman | Jun 06, 2010, 12:08 PM EDT
Since when do non US citizen, captured in foreign countries,prisoners of war have "constitutional rights"? They stay locked up until the hostilities have ended. Otherwise they go back on the battlefield and kill more Americans and allies. When will the jihadists renounce violence against non muslims? It's their call.
CanadianPat | Jun 06, 2010, 08:00 AM EDT
Supporting the suffering people of Gaza is not supporting Hamas!You who are blinded by hate see Peace Activist as terrorist . Open your eyes,see the suffering !
DennisQ | Jun 06, 2010, 06:42 AM EDT
The Constitution does not restrict prisoners' rights to American citizens - that is simply a myth. The Fifth Amendment, among others, applies to everyone charged with a crime. We have far more to lose by surrendering our rights than by preserving them. The prison at Guantanamo is simply unAmerican.
maireadinmelb | Jun 06, 2010, 02:15 AM EDT
Irishwxman, get your facts straight, as the men in gitmo have not faced a court of law, (note a military tribunal is not a court of law) they are not terrorists, those who hold them with out charge or sentence in breach of UN Declaration of Human Rights, are the terrorists, just like the state of Israel!! No american should criticise anyone else for funding terrorism, they are the experts, Israel, taliban, Bin laden, Hussein, should I continue, the list goes on and on and on!
irishwxman | Jun 05, 2010, 07:08 PM EDT
Denis you sound like you should be down at Gitmo protesting on behalf of the terrorists.
irishwxman | Jun 05, 2010, 07:07 PM EDT
GPJ..considering you are a supporter of the radical terror group and seem hell bent on the destruction if Israel, i will take a stab and say, You and your family?
CanadianPat | Jun 05, 2010, 04:17 PM EDT
All over the world people who would never been involved are marching against Isreal!Their Gaza policy is not working to their interest,time to change it!
DennisQ | Jun 05, 2010, 03:17 PM EDT
The full question about Israel's right to exist is usually truncated. Does it have the right to exist as an apartheid state? No, it doesn't - and to the extent the two are said to be inseparable, that country is not legitimate. If they don't abandon apartheid, the rest of the world should abandon them.
Ajreaper | Jun 05, 2010, 02:27 PM EDT
LOL, the Blah, blah, blah school of debate- sucks losing right out the gate don't it GP?
GPJ1970 | Jun 05, 2010, 10:30 AM EDT
irishwxman Blah Blah Blah ....who funded Hamas in 1986 to undermine support for a secular PLO?
maireadinmelb | Jun 05, 2010, 08:17 AM EDT
Gaza in its current form, is a ghetto! You do not defeat a terrorist by becoming a terrorist! And, Israel began with Zionist extremists, in modern terms terrorists, you reap what you sew!
DennisQ | Jun 05, 2010, 03:24 AM EDT
Israeli contempt for humane values is profoundly embarrassing to American Jews who have for years run interference for the apartheid state of Israel. American Jews have already started to desert the Israeli cause. As the crisis escalates - and Israelis show no repentance - calls for boycotts, divestment and sanctions will be unimpeded.
Rebelforce | Jun 05, 2010, 01:03 AM EDT
The Balfour Declaration of 1917 (dated 2 November 1917) was a formal statement of policy by the British government stating that: "His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavors to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine....."
Rebelforce | Jun 05, 2010, 12:59 AM EDT
Actually, it was the British government that made the decision that Palestine should become the "National Home for the Jewish people" in 1917. The Palestinians living there were never consulted by their new British rulers ofcourse. It's called colonialism.
irishwxman | Jun 05, 2010, 12:50 AM EDT
In World War II, with full international legality, the United States blockaded Germany and Japan. And during the October 1962 missile crisis, we blockaded ("quarantined") Cuba. Arms-bearing Russian ships headed to Cuba turned back because the Soviets knew that the U.S. Navy would either board them or sink them. Yet Israel is accused of international criminality for doing precisely what John Kennedy did: impose a naval blockade to prevent a hostile state from acquiring lethal weaponry.
irishwxman | Jun 05, 2010, 12:49 AM EDT
blah blah blah...more liberal "pro Palestine" propaganda nonsense. Blah blah blah...Hamas is good Israel is bad. there is no violence blobbety blobbety. This is getting so old. These people think Hamas is so friendly and Palestine are so peaceful, lets let them go live in Jerusalem for a few weeks.
noozguy1 | Jun 04, 2010, 11:31 PM EDT
Interesting question, Monsoonman. Do you think North Korea should have the right to pre-empt violence and attacks on their country by searching United States ships heading to South Korea? Should Pakistan have the right to do the same with U.S. cargo bound for India? Unfortunately for your argument, one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Ireland knows something of that difference in definitions, too.
Southernpride | Jun 04, 2010, 09:37 PM EDT
As a proud Irish man I salute Israel actions in defending their country. I wish the Irish goverment would defend their citizens and childern against paedophiles
Southernpride | Jun 04, 2010, 09:33 PM EDT
Well done Israel in defending your country against Arab terrorists
Monsoonman | Jun 04, 2010, 09:29 PM EDT
Father Tim, don't you think the Egyptians and israelis have a right to pre-empt violence and attacks on their countries by searching trucks/vessels entering Gaza? That is all that is being asked of these "relief" ships, is to allow them to be searched for weapons before they enter Palestinian territory. Seems extremely reasonable to most thinking people.