An Irish nun, a Catholic hospital, a dying mother, an abortion, and...
By: Father TIm | Published Friday, December 21, 2012, 5:38 PM | Updated Friday, December 21, 2012, 5:38 PM

My friends,
It has not taken long for news of the excommunication of an Irish nun in the misbegotten state of Arizona to reach around the world, even to the far-off mission in which I am blessed to serve.
You can read the whole story here, but in brief: Sister Margaret McBride, a longtime and faithful worker at St. Joseph's Hospital in Phoenix with some pioneering accomplishments helping the poor to her credit, has been excommunicated by local Bishop Thomas Olmsted. Sister Margaret was a member of the hospital's ethics committee, which faced a terrible decision. A patient with an 11-week-old fetus was dying in the hospital from a rare heart condition, in which the strains of pregnancy can tip the balance between life and death.
Founded in the then-"Wild West" by the Irish Sisters of Mercy, steeped in Catholic tradition and famous for its outreach programs to the impoverished and especially the large undocumented immigrant community, it was a wrenching choice. Doctors and medical experts were unanimous in their belief the mother would die unless her pregnancy was aborted.
Sister Margaret agreed with the hospital committee, and the abortion was performed.
Bishop Olmsted reacted even faster than the medical staff, which was facing an emergency life-and-death decision. Sister Margaret McBride is now Margaret McBride.
"An unborn child is not a disease. While medical professionals should certainly try to save a pregnant mother's life, the means by which they do it can never be by directly killing her unborn child. The end does not justify the means," the bishop declared.
Olmsted added that if a Catholic "formally cooperates" in an abortion, he or she is automatically excommunicated.
"The Catholic Church will continue to defend life and proclaim the evil of abortion without compromise, and must act to correct even her own members if they fail in this duty," the bishop said.
Although I cannot disagree with the bishop's theology and support the Church's protection of the sacredness of all life, I suspect he needs "medical" treatment himself: a strong injection of reality.
Most important is a simple reality: If the mother of an 11-week-old fetus dies, the fetus will also die. It is too soon in life for the child to survive outside the womb no matter what the hospital might try. That means two deaths. Is there really a morally defensible reason for two innocents to die when one can live? It's a hackneyed phrase, but what would Jesus have done?
Over the years, the Church's solid wall guarding all life has allowed an exception or two. For example, while euthanasia and so-called "mercy killing" is condemned, the Church has made it clear that there is no need to use "extraordinary means" to preserve life when, in the best judgment of all and with prayerful reflection, there is no real hope for the patient's recovery. Of course, this does not mean a call to the murderous "Doctor" Kevorkian, but usually the withdrawal of life-support equipment that is filling the patient's lungs with air and his heart with blood in a way that is more mechanical than medical.
In this matter, the Church has taken good counsel from the world of science to make a just and merciful clarification in doctrine. But while there has been considerable debate within the Church about the kind of dilemma faced by St. Joseph's Hospital, no "exceptions to the rule" on abortion have been forthcoming.
It is long past the time to reconsider this. If all life deserves our protection and is sacred to our Creator, then a mother's life is just as worthy as her child's. How has this become lost in the battle over abortion?
Bishop Olmsted is an intelligent and compassionate man. Like most in the religious community, he has spoken out forcefully against Arizona's immoral new "law" that is nothing more than an attack on the humanity of those who have sought a home and a life in America. While all agree that immigration reform is badly needed, human attack dogs and "camps" are not part of the answer. "Illegal" or not, a sick immigrant is welcome at St. Joseph's Hospital, even if the Diocese must foot the entire bill. God's Mandate to love all as one means charity for all.
It also means forgiveness, in this case, for Margaret McBride. She has spent a long career doing God's Own Work on earth, and even if you believe that she has erred in this heartbreaking moment, I believe her Catholic Ministry should continue.
In a world in which many, if not most people walk past the poor and suffering without a second's thought, Margaret McBride heard God's Call to Love and made answering it her life's work. I pray that Bishop Olmsted will deeply reflect on all Margaret McBride has done in the Name of God and the Church, and reconsider his decision so that the poor may continue to feel the love of
Sister Margaret McBride.
God bless you all!
— Father Tim
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Switch to the desktop site to post a comment.notTimmy | Nov 18, 2010, 12:40 PM EST
This is undoubtidly a super sad mess. No other way to look at it. All the commentary not withstanding, the principle is still, "The end does not justify the means". You cannot of yourself decide to murder that life, God has instilled a soul. It is a terrible decision. Pelosi said, "giving condoms and contraceptives saves money on welfare and that's good". Which it is not !!And she bragged about going (how long ?) to 'St. Francis" - - ?? Scandalous. Second guessing God, is not a good way to go. The Dr.s said my mother would not recover from the coma, was brain dead. "Straight line" , etc. 43 days later she awoke, remembered everything,except for the blank of 43 days, that had ever happened, knew everyone who came to see her. Mother lived 2 1/2 years - -'they' don't really know !! Perhaps pray might be good. Trust ? 'They' don't really know !!!!!
LadyEireofCork | Jul 09, 2010, 01:18 PM EDT
I too am a registered nurse who spent a great deal of time in Labor & Delivery. There are many difficult and at times heart wrenching decisions taken on, esp. in the obstetrical field. If a mother's life is in peril and the baby is not at viability, then the decision to abort is necessary for the mother to live. There are so many different aspects to any one of these cases, but I agree that life should be preserved. If the mother had a grievous condition that would have been exacerbated by the continuation of the pregnancy then her life would be taken into consideration.
georgeG | Jul 08, 2010, 11:19 AM EDT
I think there is a lot more to this story. I think Ms. McBride must have been involved in many questionable decisions at the hospital. There is a huge crisis of both ignorance and disobedience to catholic ethics today. Malpractice fears are causing doctors to recommend abortion when there is any doubt and institutions are trying to save money by accelerating the death of terminally ill patients in inhumane ways like dehydration and starvation. Go to the original sources and learn about the Catholic positions rather than speaking from emotion and ignorance!
Padraig | Jul 08, 2010, 09:02 AM EDT
Simply, well said Father Tim.
HughesDohmann | Jul 05, 2010, 10:16 PM EDT
I think the problem here is that the abortion was done at a Catholic Hospital. This is not acceptable I would think. Reality ? What is that ? It bites ya know.
irisheyesjenn | Jun 25, 2010, 09:12 AM EDT
Margaret McBride, consider yourself fortunate that you have been released from the binds of a church which despises woman and children. This church chooses to excommunicate a nun for saving a woman in a situation with no ideal outcome, while it continues to embrace priests who rape and torture children. I am thankful to know that in the end God will judge.
Irishwabe | Jun 12, 2010, 03:20 PM EDT
Dear Fr. Tim, Your reference to Arizona as a misbegotton state and your additional reference to "undomcumented immigrants" is appaling. Your Irish relatives must be turning in their graves. The correct expression is "illegal aliens." The Irish immigrants worked hard to build a life for their families in America. They were not drug pushers, murderers, etc. Horray for Az for defending itself and its people. JW
MaggieO | Jun 08, 2010, 08:41 PM EDT
I'm a 38 year Registered Nurse and throughout my career I've witnessed many heart wrenching decisions made to forego life support. It's never easy. If Catholic Priests were able to become pregnant maybe the Church's stand would be different. It must have been very difficult for Sister Margaret to make her decision,but sometimes the good of the one out weighs the good of the many.
maireadinmelb | Jun 08, 2010, 05:24 AM EDT
It is not about praying for non believers. It is about a medical necessity to save a woman's life. Bishops are great at telling people to exercise compassion! What if she is a mother who has other children and compassion for them! As if losing her child was not enough trauma for the mother without criticism for those who have never been in her situation!
ritmomente | Jun 03, 2010, 12:33 PM EDT
Try as you may, seanomelbourne, you cannot separate the word faith with God. Nor can you accurately comment on faith without acknowledging the presence of God. I continue to pray for non-believers like you.
broedersvl | May 30, 2010, 08:15 PM EDT
I think its time for Bishop Olmsted to pay a permanent visit to the bosom of the Holy Spirit.
seanomelbourne | May 28, 2010, 07:58 PM EDT
amusing you use the word "faith" from the Latin "fides". FAITH: "the unshakable belief in something without proof or evidence.FAITH: honesty or sincerity as in "good faith" take your pick ritomente. (source Collins dictionary 4th edition.) WE both have faith ,Doe's that infer I lack faith,hope,charity and love.
ritmomente | May 28, 2010, 05:42 PM EDT
For those religious and priests that use their title to abuse children, there is a special place in hell for them. I only wish a little bit of hell visit them while here on Earth. As an athiest, your opinions on someone with faith has no meaning whatsoever.
seanomelbourne | May 27, 2010, 07:57 PM EDT
I have faith and trust in my fellow man/women. As for morals I am no different to to you or most other people. Life's journey will decide faith and morals. How do you account for religious people who fail your insincere test. I feel I am more "charitable"than you are where is your soul. May your god go with you.
ritmomente | May 27, 2010, 08:36 AM EDT
How is it silly that you should be ignored on faith? You have none. Morals? Where do they come from? To all with a soul, it comes from God. To you, it must come from a Freudian dream.
seanomelbourne | May 26, 2010, 07:25 PM EDT
What a silly statement ritmomente. Are you saying atheist have no respect or love for there fellow human beings? it's hard to dignify such silly comments.
ritmomente | May 26, 2010, 08:22 AM EDT
and athiests are to be ignored when it comes to faith and morals.
ritmomente | May 26, 2010, 08:21 AM EDT
wrong again sean. read her comments. she claims that a priest cannot empathize with a pregnant woman because he is an old male.
seanomelbourne | May 26, 2010, 02:15 AM EDT
You are misreading no where doe's she mention pregnant priests, you are being unfair.
ritmomente | May 25, 2010, 11:06 PM EDT
It is not a silly comparison at all seanomelbourne. culchiewoman seems to think that a priest needs to be a pregnant mother to empathize. Yet you bring up a very interesting point: this story was written with an anti-Catholic slant with little evidence.
seanomelbourne | May 25, 2010, 06:43 PM EDT
What a silly comparison,maybe she did have a second or third opinion who knows at the end of the day it's the mother's decision.
ritmomente | May 25, 2010, 11:23 AM EDT
culchiewoman, does a doctor have to have AIDS to treat patients who have it? The end result was death. No right choice was made.
culchiewoman | May 25, 2010, 10:35 AM EDT
Once again, white-haired old men casting judgment and making decisions on something that should be solely the woman in question's choice. I commend Sister Margaret for her courage and urge her not to worry what the old men think. She made the right choice.
ritmomente | May 24, 2010, 11:32 PM EDT
I don't believe the medical prognosis. Couldn't the mother gotten a 2nd opinion from someone else? How long must the child stay in the womb before the child can survive outside? Father Tim is a fraud.
seanomelbourne | May 23, 2010, 11:56 PM EDT
Robert Mugabe is a church going catholic,he is also a murderer who would rather see his people starve,now there's a candidate for excommunication. Margaret McBride like Mary McKillop will be vindicated. Ostracize the bishops and their cronies I say.
LivvyPritchard | May 23, 2010, 02:59 PM EDT
Unfair, really unbalanced criticism of a holy man holding up Catholic Church truths! re sexual abuse & incorparated parish life: brother priests of our AZ parishes are intelligent,thinking leaders of VERY faithful parish Catholics not liable for over the top secular law suits against them. re Sr McBride who excommunicated herself. A Bishop only condemns wrongful teachings of the Church not mercy on the soul --which sister realizes in her own excommunication. God be with her - and he will.
LivvyPritchard | May 23, 2010, 02:48 PM EDT
I think you are not going to publish the comments I wrote 5 minutes ago most likely because you are a biased news organization --is what I think about this.
LivvyPritchard | May 23, 2010, 02:46 PM EDT
let me the lonestanding detractor of Fr Tims' personal'theology'. I dont believe Fr Tim is a practising theologian brother of priesthood fraternity. In fact, when I look at this column, I know her is a fraud.
seanomelbourne | May 21, 2010, 06:21 PM EDT
It is not Porickseantuny,Bushothehill or Bishop Olmsted's choice who should have an abortion. It is none of your business,the mother and her family can only make this decision. If you are against abortion that is also your choice,but do not force your rights on others. And just to set the record straight I do not like abortions (in most cases)but then again that's a personal choice not to be foisted on others.
Porickseantuny | May 21, 2010, 11:55 AM EDT
Apparently, like our attorney general, Fr. Tim didn't read the Arizona Law in question re immigration. The Bill regurgitates the US constitution and specifically requires probable cause to stop someone before inquiring about citizenship. As for abortion, no one seems to say that the Mother was in imminent danger of death. The decision was based on Medical prognosis.
Bushothehill | May 21, 2010, 05:44 AM EDT
Sister McBride is typical of the modern nun. They hue an ultra-liberal line and when they vote into office those politicians who advocate abortions, they are the abetters in the abbatiors of the abortion mills that account for the slaying of hundreds of thousands of babies who are slain in the name of "compassion". If Tim is a real priest, he should take a look at the big picture!!!!
jacersisityourself | May 20, 2010, 03:56 PM EDT
I agree w/ Fr. Tim here. The ground rules for excommunication need to be revisited. Another nun, Sr. Mary MacKillop of Australia also suffered because of her local bishop’s decisions. Sr. Mary MacKillop was once excommunicated for the manner of going about her charitable work but was later re-admitted to the Catholic Church, beatified in 1995 and later this year will be declared a Saint of Heaven. ‘Google’ Mary MacKillop
jacersisityourself | May 20, 2010, 03:55 PM EDT
Geeze! - pardon repeated posts if they appear, shortened each time! What's w/ ICentral's new rules for posts?
ritmomente | May 20, 2010, 09:37 AM EDT
Father Tim doesn't use his name for fear of excommunication.
ritmomente | May 20, 2010, 09:36 AM EDT
and seanomelbourne, I believe there is a special place in hell for those that harm and appropriate the harm to children.
ritmomente | May 20, 2010, 09:35 AM EDT
Goodbye MPRegan and don't forget to write! I've seen a few wannabe Catholic Churches out there but as irishfurl indicated and the great Cardinal John O'Connor stated that the Catholic Church is not a cafeteria.
seanomelbourne | May 20, 2010, 06:31 AM EDT
If there is a heaven where will Olmsted and the pedophile priest's be.
barneyjo | May 19, 2010, 06:56 PM EDT
Bishop Olmsted will be no different, no greater, no lesser than any other man or woman when he is called upon to answer for his actions or inactions in this life. In all the travails that I have faced in my faith journey, this fact more than any has sustained me.The sanctity of human life is precious, but church inspired "absolutes" do not constitute the entire message brought to the world by Jesus.
MPRegan0306 | May 19, 2010, 02:58 PM EDT
What does the diocese of Phoenix know about the sanctity of life? Bishop Thomas Olmsted's predecessor, Bishop Thomas O’Brien, got drunk, ran over and killed an inebriated American Indian and his only comment was “I thought it was a dog”. He never showed any remorse afterward. Tired of their “do as I say – not as I do” attitude.
MPRegan0306 | May 19, 2010, 02:42 PM EDT
After growing up and being raised as a devout Catholic, I have been on the fence about continuing with this religion most recently due to the pedophile issues and the subsequent reaction(s) to them by the Catholic church. Bishop Olmsted has made my final decision easier. He has convinced me that his church and its beliefs are no longer in parallel to mine.
irishfurl | May 19, 2010, 09:29 AM EDT
Father Tim - you are not a member of Priests for Life are you???? It would serve you well to take some counsel from Fr. Pavone. Priests like you are doing the faithful no favors. Join the line as a cafeteria Catholic. Very sad.
CMMcShane | May 18, 2010, 09:08 PM EDT
Whatever happened to "Primacy of Conscience"?
McNamara31 | May 18, 2010, 01:35 PM EDT
Anyone, with a compassionate heart, would never have wanted to have been in Sister McBride's shoes for a decision like this. I'm sure she agonized in this no win decision. The older we become, we realize, life doesn't always unfold, in neat little this is right, this is wrong, boxes.
ritmomente | May 18, 2010, 12:31 PM EDT
Does anyone know what Father Tim's last name is?
mcdolan | May 18, 2010, 03:21 AM EDT
The woman (Sister Margaret) made an informed decision based on medical evidence. What is the point of two deaths? Nonetheless, this is a red herring to take pressure off the disgusting ongoing revelations of the depth of mental and physical child abuse perpetrated and sustained by the Church hierarchy in the US, Ireland, Germany, and only God knows where else.
JohnDrake6 | May 17, 2010, 10:10 PM EDT
Fr. Tim, as a presumably well-educated Jesuit, you should know the Sister excommunicated herself by her action - "latae sententiae". Bp. Olmsted merely affirmed it to the media. heybuldog69 - direct abortion cannot be "unintended".
seanomelbourne | May 17, 2010, 08:49 PM EDT
Let both the mother and baby die rather than save the mother!Bishop Olmsted needs a lesson in humanity and the rights of others. The right to life of the mother and child is the family's decision not some priest or any other ethicist for that matter.
CanadianPat | May 17, 2010, 06:55 PM EDT
Sounds to me like it was excreamly doubtful that either the mother or the child would survive, the Bishop is so very wrong !
ritmomente | May 17, 2010, 06:29 PM EDT
Reform Catholic Church? They keep coming out of the woodwork, don't they. You have excommunicated yourself as well GuinnessGrrl. phobrien31, when the Bishop is actually following Canon Law, you still punish him.
phobrien31 | May 17, 2010, 06:14 PM EDT
I think that the Bishop should have counseled Sr. Margaret, put her in re-hab for a couple of months and then assigned her to another hospital where her compassion might be loosed on other unsuspecting patients. In other words, the same way he would handle pedophile priests.
paddym21 | May 17, 2010, 04:36 PM EDT
The nun did wrong. It is right and just that she is excommunicated. It is spiritual medicine for her so hopefully it'll do the trick and lead to repentance for her sin.
GuinnessGrrl | May 17, 2010, 04:06 PM EDT
You're right Father Tim...and for the rest of you, just remember that Jesus didn't say one word about abortions, much less whether or not they should be done. Sister Margaret McBride, the Reformed Catholic Church would welcome you with open arms & God's love! http://www.reformedcatholicchurch.org/
ritmomente | May 17, 2010, 02:11 PM EDT
I love it when a lay people comment on how bishops need to be given lessons on Canon Law or ethics. She could have abstained in the vote to abort.
RiverAveGuy | May 17, 2010, 02:01 PM EDT
The nun excommunicated herself ! Get over it !
docmikey | May 17, 2010, 01:19 PM EDT
The bishop is wrong!!!! He needs a refresher course in Catholic ethics teaching - plus a little compassion.
RiverAveGuy | May 17, 2010, 11:11 AM EDT
Father Tim what "church" do you belong to? Oh I know the secular humanist church. Never mind !
Laura Wilson | May 17, 2010, 11:04 AM EDT
wow how quickly they were to Excommuinicate this Nun yet when the priests are mollestion our children they just get moved oooh so Quietly to another parish. Whats wrong with this picture???
myriamdom | May 17, 2010, 10:58 AM EDT
Hey, Olmstead, use your head; go back to ethics school. Do you really understand what end and means mean? Sister Margaret McBride, you are still Sister Margaret McBride.
irishathens | May 17, 2010, 10:24 AM EDT
Father Tim I have no need to ask what Jesus would do. Any sane person would save the mother.
chris13 | May 17, 2010, 10:09 AM EDT
Males making decisions about women's bodies as usual. How many pedophiles continued their sins for decades without excommunication? Only when it relates to female sexuality, ie getting pregnant.
Godscre | May 17, 2010, 09:57 AM EDT
This Sister needs the support of a compassionate Body of Christ. Excommunication? It is not the unpardonable sin. Excommunication should be for the immoral who continuously are deceitful and blaspheme the Holy Spirit. A reading of 1 Cor. 5 & 6 may be good to review?
ritmomente | May 17, 2010, 09:43 AM EDT
What is Father Tim's last name? What diocese sent him on mission?
ritmomente | May 17, 2010, 09:42 AM EDT
Yet another wants to excommunicate a bishop. See who wins that battle. It's an all-around tragedy.
FatherVol | May 17, 2010, 08:55 AM EDT
I am disappointed in you, Fr. Tim.
MotherIrish | May 17, 2010, 08:39 AM EDT
The bishop needs to be excommunicated. Is it better to loose two lives or loose one and save one. I will bet any money the dear sister agonized over her decision and that it did not come lightly and that she was medically informed. The bishop just let fly with his decision. A good woman has once again been defamed by the males running the Roman Catholic church.
fuzzyone49 | May 16, 2010, 07:18 PM EDT
Mrs. Fuzzy thinks the Bishop should be investigated.
fuzzyone49 | May 16, 2010, 07:18 PM EDT
Throw the Bishop out-Margaret McBride is a hero in this story.
Christisall | May 16, 2010, 03:54 PM EDT
No Catholic hospital should allow abortion for ANY reason. Take the abortions to the protestant hospitals.
everyman | May 16, 2010, 01:55 PM EDT
This is disturbing.The life of the Mother should be the first priority.I have 2 beautiful daughters that I love dearly, and yes,I would die for them ,if need be.But my wife is the most important person in my life.As she should be.
heybuldog69 | May 16, 2010, 12:43 PM EDT
The principle of Double Effect is a Long Standing Tradition in Moral Theology. The Health of the Mother was Willed not the Unintended Consequence of the Death of the Baby.