Why Irish-America is good for Irish presidency
By: Daniel O'Carroll | Published Wednesday, August 24, 2011, 2:36 PM | Updated Friday, September 9, 2011, 10:22 PM

Those of you who have been following Niall O'Dowd's possible bid for the Irish presidency may have read
Walter Ellis' ad hominem in Ireland's paper of record
The Irish Times this morning.
The surprisingly aggressive piece, in which Ellis criticizes O'Dowd for viewing Ireland as "a brand, not a nation", before regurgitating a series of highly selective quotes from this website and its print publication, The Irish Voice, displays almost as shocking a disdain for the Irish-American community and its values as its author accuses O'Dowd of having for the Queen, and culminates in a sweeping statement that those with ties to the fictional village of 'Glocca Mora' (Irish Americans) are deluding themselves into believing that they have any connection beyond that of 'blood and ancestry' to their genealogical homeland.
I disagree with the piece for a number of reasons.
Firstly, like O'Dowd, and several other prominent commentators (take, for one, maverick economist-cum-columnist David McWilliams), I believe that there is great untapped power dormant in the numbers and scale of the Irish diaspora, and that alienating or deriding these people is contrary to Ireland's best interests.
Irish Americans, many of whom I met interning with this website last summer, have a genuine determination and zeal for all things Irish, and are imbued with great ideas that -- if listened to more earnestly, and taken more seriously -- could make a positive contribution to Ireland's troubling future. Ellis should know that -- he arguably is one himself!
Even those whose families have not stepped on or seen the 'Emerald Isle' for two or more generations have a real understanding that in America, the great melting pot of nations, retaining ones sense of heritage and national identity are of the utmost important, and have a knowledge of what's going on in Ireland and its geography that greatly took me aback when I saw it first hand in New York last summer.
There are, of course, exceptions - as there are to every rule - but Irish Americans have a contribution to Ireland which could be of real benefit to the country if harnessed properly,
This is more or less the same sentiment one Irish university president expressed to me when I interviewed him earlier this year, in which he said that he thought the ideal situation for Ireland's future would be for young Irish graduates to emigrate after completing their third level studies, gain experience and knowledge working abroad, and then return home to apply what they've learned, and seen done better, to help rectify our ailing economy back home.
These people, the Irish Americans, whose exact number and geographical dispersal are still matters of debate and speculation for those who care, are not 'misty eyed', nor do they 'adhere to' a picture of Ireland that includes in its geography 'Glocca Mora'; they are real, tuned-in, and care about Ireland's future.
I remember meeting an Irish-American about my age last summer whose family had never even even visited Ireland, but had as good if not better better a knowledge of Irish geography and politics than I had, naming, without falter, the 32 counties and its past six Taoisigh from memory.
They're certainly far from the imbeciles Ellis describes in his piece this morning, and anyone with ideas to get us Irish out of our current economics mess -- however tenuous their connection to Ireland or distant their heritage -- needs to be listened to, in earnest, and immediately, before they stop trying.
Besides that diatribe, Ellis also criticizes O'Dowd's vision of a pro-active presidency, one which would see the President travel as a 'travelling salesman' convincing Irish abroad to invest -- intellectually and financially -- in our country, before accusing him, by having emigrated Ireland to earn a living in the State, of having 'irretrievably' shorn himself of his Irish nationality.
Nowhere in the Constitution is it written the the President has to amount to nothing more than a ceremonial figurehead, and for me, and others impressed with some of Niall's initial musings on his possible bid, a President who could show a bit more dynamism and boldness would be a welcome complement to our current government, which -- at least compared to the Fianna Fáil cronies it ousted -- has been taking action, even if not always appreciated.
O'Dowd, at least for those of us who'd support his bid hope, doesn't consider Ireland to be some faceless corporation, but at a time when the country is being forced to introduce water charges to adhere to the terms of a loan it's been forced in to by sheer economic ruination, a bit of business sense, not to mention some inward investment from abroad like we saw in previous days, certainly wouldn't go astray.
O'Dowd's political activism, for those who follow it, is dedicated to promoting Ireland and strengthening its ties with the Irish abroad. The argument that by emigrating to the States he has reneged on some sort of national pledge, or constitutional duty, is simply not true; he has done more for Ireland than most that spend their whole lives living there.
For naysayers like Ellis, though, any budge from the presidential orthodoxy, including electing to the job an Irishman who has spent some of his life in the States, would amount to heresy; for me, though, both are positives, and I can only see a willingness to better engage with, and interest the extended Irish diaspora, particularly in the US, as a good thing.
I hope those misty-eyed souls still dream of Glocca Mora would agree.
I'll include an email and link to my Twitter in future posts, as some readers/commenters seem to have difficulty getting in touch:
docarroll@irishcentral.com
twitter.com/daniel_ocarroll
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Switch to the desktop site to post a comment.mecca87 | Jun 25, 2011, 08:23 AM EDT
u show respect for the history of america, why is it not ok to then have respect for the history of the people of america what would america be without its people. As for irish people respecting the diaspora the most certainly do it is apart of our history 2 know that people didnt jst emmigrate for a better life in the US but 2 work and send watever money made bck 2 ireland if the hadnt and jst decided to forget about their native land then a lot more people would of starved. And ireland is americas oldest friend the day its not ok 2 love both countries is a sad day.
themurphia | Jun 16, 2011, 03:05 PM EDT
tullyallen..and your point is...? If you are suggesting that dual natioanlity conflicts with the Constitution then we need to change the Constitution...it was easy enough to sign away Articles 2 and 3 as I recall... As someone else said if there is no longer a 'cead mile failte' for the Diaspora then make it 'offiical' we'll kiss it goodbye...otherwise the time to negotiate is now...! joycean...there may be 'reasons' why IV is not publishing Ellis...saw the letter you refer to...IT very selective in what gets past the letters ed...!
GeorgeDillon | Jun 16, 2011, 02:45 PM EDT
That's a good one, tredagh!
tredagh | Jun 16, 2011, 02:24 PM EDT
Walter Ellis sets himeslf up as a Diplomatic correspondent, but Walter is also an obitury writer for the Times in London. No doubt The Thunderer is delighted with your defence of the Royal family , but Walter you quoted the articles incorrectly. I hope when you write about the sad demise of various Wing Commanders and Group Captains you do not mix up obtaining a VC with VD.
tullyallen | Jun 16, 2011, 02:18 PM EDT
Article 9:2 "Fidelity to the nation and loyalty to the State are FUNDAMENTAL politicla duties of all citiizens"
themurphia | Jun 16, 2011, 01:26 PM EDT
Springfield I'm not sure that I agree that Ireland is a 'modern European country'..in name perhaps but nothing more...I do however agree that we..i.e. the Irish Abroad/Diaspora need to be a bit more 'muscular' with the old sod...i.e. we insist on reciprocity...we'll give you a 'dig-out'...again.... if you honour our constitutional right to vote*...otherwise sayonara as they say here in Ballygodhelpus...! Speaking of which if Irish Voice is not already o the case can you organise an online petition to be served on the Dail demanding our Constitutional right as citizens under Article 16.1 (I think..a while since I looked at it...)of Bunreacht na hEireann/The Irish Constitution...Go raith mile maith agat
joycean | Jun 16, 2011, 01:23 PM EDT
If Mr. Ellis would like to make a "detailed response," why hasn't he? He has made a couple of short ones, so he is capable of logging on here. I notice he lives in New York and France, not Ireland. So is he also an Irish-American? He was born in Belfast, which may explain why O'Dowd's attitude toward the British are of such great significance to him. BTW, there is a nice letter to the editor in today's Times, refuting Ellis.
Springfield9 | Jun 16, 2011, 12:05 PM EDT
Irealnd is a modern European country. Consequently, like other countries the "diaspora" should realize that being of any "hyphenated nationality" just doesn't smoothe the way to prosperity. My entire family is Irish (we were taught to "keep with our own"). I have 111 DNA markers that nearly pinpoint the tree my ancestors lived under. This produced a concern for the welfare of Ireland. Ireland must make a choice recognize the sons and daughters of the land (a la Israel) our simply write us off. Have the Dail issue a statement to be read by the President that bids us a polite, "fond farewell" and releases us from an inherited, ancient, loyalty. I will simply use the money I saved for an Irish subscription to buy a Volvo.
WalterEllis | Jun 16, 2011, 11:21 AM EDT
Apparently not.
themurphia | Jun 16, 2011, 09:52 AM EDT
I hope you are going to share that 'detailed response with the readers of the Irish Voice Daniel...
themurphia | Jun 16, 2011, 09:39 AM EDT
Well I hope you will be sharing that 'detailed response' with the readership of the Irish Voice Daniel
WalterEllis | Jun 16, 2011, 08:25 AM EDT
I sent you a detailed response, Daniel. The message came up that this had been sent. But, thus far, no sign of it. Maybe you're just about to push the button.
themurphia | Jun 16, 2011, 05:23 AM EDT
Re tullyallen...I rest my case..!
tullyallen | Jun 16, 2011, 04:21 AM EDT
Article 12:9 states " The President shall not leave the State during his term of office save with the consent of the Government" I read Ellis' article in the Irish Times yesterday. Personally I found it to be a relatively well balanced piece. The president in Ireland has little or no executive power . Mr O' Dowds idea that he will become Ireland's marketing director is quaint but unrealistic. What he proposes is to make Ireland a colony of corporate America and the office of president a carpetbagger. I question his sincerity and I view this as opportunism . I think we need a president in Ireland who is on the side of the people and not another mé feiner opportunist.
themurphia | Jun 16, 2011, 04:17 AM EDT
I have commented on this elsewhere but it probably bears repeating.. I think what really sticks in the craw of Ellis and his ilk is Niall O'Dowd's perceived Nationalist/Republican affiliations... The IT as George Dillon says may be a 'narrow minded rag' but it is the National paper of record and as such it is an opinion former...It is scandalous that it it's columnists refer to a democratically elected party (SF) as 'Shinners' and some of it's bloggers/columnists use 'Gerry Adams' as a spoof name to try and ridicule commenters who object to their derision of the Party President and a sitting member of the Dail... The Irish abroad 'the Diaspora' is the biggest Irish constituency...WE NEED A VOICE... Despite being Irish citizens...the only time we get to vote for anything is the Eurovision song contest...It was the Diaspora that kept Ireland afloat sending money home in the 50's and 60's...yet the Irish government make no provision for the exiles in need or when they return 'home'...not that that stops them from calling on the emigrants to 'pull on the green jersey' and dig deep into their pockets when the going gets tough... Hey but they managed to find €30 million to party with 'Banrion Eilis a Do'...Go figure...!
GeorgeDillon | Jun 16, 2011, 02:24 AM EDT
Good analysis, O'Carroll. But don't get too riled by the Irish Times, this once-great liberal newspaper is now a narrow-minded rag.